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V15VINCENT

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May 28, 2001, 9:57:07 AM5/28/01
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9-Year-Old Dies Playing "Superman" in Bronx


May 28, 2001 6:41 am
NEW YORK (AP) -- A nine-year-old boy from the Bronx who was taken to the
hospital Sunday night after falling from a rooftop five stories high has died.

Julian Roman was playing with friends, said Det. Eugene Canapi, a New York City
police spokesman. The children were trying to jump from one rooftop to another
in the Bedford Park section of the Bronx when Roman fell, Canapi said.
Witnesses say the boy yelled, "look I'm Superman," before he fell.

Roman, who turned nine earlier this month, was taken to Jacobi Hospital where
he was listed in critical condition before he died just after 11:30 Sunday
night, Canapi said.

(Copyright 2001 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Mike Greelish

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May 28, 2001, 11:34:42 AM5/28/01
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"V15VINCENT" <v15vi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> 9-Year-Old Dies Playing "Superman" in Bronx
(snip)

And what sort of reaction do you want out of this group? Indignant defense?
Fratricidal flame-war? Howbout nothing at all, wise ass?

Barring the ignoring you deserve, howbout this: even when I was nine years
old, I knew enough not to jump between buildings five stories up. Think of
it as evolution in action.

P.S. If he hadn't mentioned Superman, I guess this would be irrelevant, eh?
Damn flame-war instigators...

Allen W. Wright

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May 28, 2001, 12:37:05 PM5/28/01
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You're a rude fellow, aren't you?

While the original poster might have violated copyright in posting the
article, there was no editorializing from him. It could have easily been posted
with the intention of asking "what kind of publicity will result from this"? It
seems to me that Superman in the news is an on-topic discussion for this forum.

But you attacked him like he was Frederic Wertham. Isn't that the kind of
behaviour that leads to flame wars?

Allen

GrapeApe

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May 28, 2001, 12:46:39 PM5/28/01
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I spent many of my pre-school years wanting the superman costume available in
the Sear wishbook. This wish was often accompanied by the thought that if I
jumped out of a moving car window in such, I would have sufficient velocity to
fly. I don't know to what degree I thought this was the actual reality of the
situation, I just thought it would be cool if that was the case. But I think I
would have hesitated feeling gravity in the wind out such a window.

Mary Poppins was problematic as well, I always thought a big umbrella and a
decent wind would be tons of fun. Usually just hell on the umbrellas , however.
You wouldn't see Disney putting out such dangerously suggestive fare these
days.....

Sk8Maven

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May 28, 2001, 1:35:08 PM5/28/01
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Unfortuately it's impossible to prevent kids from doing stupid and
dangerous things. Before Superman ever existed, they were breaking arms,
legs and necks imitating Douglas Fairbanks (Sr.). And before that I'm
sure they were finding other reasons to break bones and get themselves
killed.

Maven

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May 28, 2001, 2:30:32 PM5/28/01
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V15VINCENT wrote:

Thank you, DC, you get an honorary Darwin award for removing another idiot from the
gene pool early.

The_Vigilante

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May 28, 2001, 2:55:53 PM5/28/01
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Nah...we need to figure out how to get his parents to do the same
thing...they're the friggin' idiots who didn't instill enough common sense
in the kid to know a cape does not equal levitation abilities.

I used to wear a cape as a kid and pretend I was Hawkman. Highest thing I
ever jumped off was my bed.

Vig


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Ken Dreger

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May 28, 2001, 3:28:54 PM5/28/01
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What about the "Flying Nun". If a nun can fly, why not me ;)

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Jeg7777

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May 28, 2001, 3:53:37 PM5/28/01
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"Mike Greelish" <m_gre...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Superman must be banned! All written and filmed versions! It's a bad
influence! It's worse than "Jackass" even!

Won't somebody please think of the children!
:-)

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Superman!" - Homer Simpson


Sean Walsh

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May 28, 2001, 3:54:49 PM5/28/01
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Mike Greelish <m_gre...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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This kind of story happens and gets reactions on the wrestling boards/groups
whenever some kid dies "imitating wrestlers." The original poster might be
alerting us to the evidence some nut-job social group could possibly use to
outlaw and ban comic books...

Or wants to pick a fight or something...who knows.

All I know is: what you said about the "evolution in action" is 100% right.
Life's all about survival of the fittest...

Sean
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Sean Walsh

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May 28, 2001, 3:57:08 PM5/28/01
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The_Vigilante <mu...@ptd.net> wrote in message
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I used to pretend I was Boba Fett, and used to jump into my bed every night.

Then one night I smacked my head against the headboard and knocked myself
out. I knew as soon as I came to: no more Boba Fett for me...!

VertigoDC

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May 28, 2001, 4:07:54 PM5/28/01
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What? You want us to give him a Darwin award or something?

Please just call me Mike instead of VertigoDC.

Not all who wander are lost- J.R.R. Tolkien

Carl Fink

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May 28, 2001, 3:59:37 PM5/28/01
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The event was relatively local to me. I must point out that a nine-year-old
is well aware that Superman is a fictional character and that he can't fly.

According to interviews with the neighbors, jumping from building to
building is a common "show how brave I am" activity among the local boys.
This one apparently slipped on his takeoff. While he said the *word*
"Superman", his decision to leap had nothing to do with Clark Kent
whatsoever.
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Brian Jacks

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May 28, 2001, 4:38:40 PM5/28/01
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>From: vze2...@mail.verizon.net

>Thank you, DC, you get an honorary Darwin award for removing another idiot
>from the
>gene pool early.

Well, a better question is where were the parents of this child and why didn't
they know that this child was spending time jumping from rooftop to rooftop? A
report said that this boy did it often.

-Brian

Peter Mason

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May 28, 2001, 5:23:30 PM5/28/01
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grap...@aol.comjunk (GrapeApe) wrote in message
> > Mary Poppins was problematic as well, I always thought a big umbrella and a
> decent wind would be tons of fun. Usually just hell on the umbrellas , however.
> You wouldn't see Disney putting out such dangerously suggestive fare these
> days.....

Some kid actually jumped off the roof of his apartment with an umbrella. Weird, but true.

Calidore

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May 28, 2001, 5:56:42 PM5/28/01
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On Mon, 28 May 2001 18:55:53 GMT, "The_Vigilante" <mu...@ptd.net>
wrote:

>> Thank you, DC, you get an honorary Darwin award for removing another idiot
>from the
>> gene pool early.
>>
>
>Nah...we need to figure out how to get his parents to do the same
>thing...they're the friggin' idiots who didn't instill enough common sense
>in the kid to know a cape does not equal levitation abilities.

Why jump on the parents? Since when do kids do only what parents tell
them is okay? Did you wait until you were 17 to see your first
R-rated movie? Did you never look at an adult magazine until you
turned 18?

What parents teach their kids is one thing; whether the kid is smart
enough to make good judgments on his own is another. When it comes
down to it, a kid will do what he wants. There are terminally stupid
kids, period, and I feel nothing but sympathy for the parents who have
to deal with one, and then experience the pain of losing a child, and
_then_ experience the pain of dealing with people who judge them and
blame them for their child's death.

Calidore

Prestorjon

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May 28, 2001, 6:52:47 PM5/28/01
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<<This kind of story happens and gets reactions on the wrestling boards/groups
whenever some kid dies "imitating wrestlers." The original poster might be
alerting us to the evidence some nut-job social group could possibly use to
outlaw and ban comic books...>>

Although distubringly with wrestling someone is actually selling a "Best Of
Backyard Wrestling" video. Nothing like actually encouraging these idiots to
try and kill each other.

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Sean Walsh

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May 28, 2001, 7:26:34 PM5/28/01
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Prestorjon <prest...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> <<This kind of story happens and gets reactions on the wrestling
boards/groups
> whenever some kid dies "imitating wrestlers." The original poster might be
> alerting us to the evidence some nut-job social group could possibly use
to
> outlaw and ban comic books...>>
>
> Although distubringly with wrestling someone is actually selling a "Best
Of
> Backyard Wrestling" video. Nothing like actually encouraging these idiots
to
> try and kill each other.

I've seen the commercials on TV. To me, it's a good fun laugh to see nimrods
beat each other bloody and broken...

But that's just evil lil' me... :p

Sean Walsh

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May 28, 2001, 7:29:55 PM5/28/01
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Carl Fink <ca...@dm.net> wrote in message
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> The event was relatively local to me. I must point out that a
nine-year-old
> is well aware that Superman is a fictional character and that he can't
fly.
>
> According to interviews with the neighbors, jumping from building to
> building is a common "show how brave I am" activity among the local boys.
> This one apparently slipped on his takeoff. While he said the *word*
> "Superman", his decision to leap had nothing to do with Clark Kent
> whatsoever.

But still: some evidence was given that could lift the blame off of the
parents or the kid and onto some uninvolved 3rd party; I'm sure, in this
foolish day and age, somebody else (DC) is gonna be blamed...

vze2...@mail.verizon.net

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May 28, 2001, 7:41:37 PM5/28/01
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Shows how dumb YOU are. Hawkman didn't have a cape! ; )

vze2...@mail.verizon.net

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May 28, 2001, 7:42:39 PM5/28/01
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Calidore wrote:

> On Mon, 28 May 2001 18:55:53 GMT, "The_Vigilante" <mu...@ptd.net>
> wrote:
>
> >> Thank you, DC, you get an honorary Darwin award for removing another idiot
> >from the
> >> gene pool early.
> >>
> >
> >Nah...we need to figure out how to get his parents to do the same
> >thing...they're the friggin' idiots who didn't instill enough common sense
> >in the kid to know a cape does not equal levitation abilities.
>
> Why jump on the parents?

Cause they're softer than concrete ; )

ubersteve

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May 28, 2001, 7:54:41 PM5/28/01
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Kyle's mom had it right. It most be those Canadians with their beady eyes
and flapping heads. John Byrne was Canadian, so it must be their fault.

The bombing starts at dawn.

(feeling really guilty about this joke)

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Omarichu

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May 28, 2001, 8:20:13 PM5/28/01
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>I used to wear a cape as a kid and pretend I was Hawkman. Highest thing I
>ever jumped off was my bed.

I jumped off a twenty story building one time as a child. Unfortunately I
survived.

__

Am I or am I not? That is the question. ... Well, that is a question...

Omarichu

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May 28, 2001, 8:19:41 PM5/28/01
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>The event was relatively local to me. I must point out that a nine-year-old
>is well aware that Superman is a fictional character and that he can't fly.

Can you jump off a building into traffic to spare the rest of us from your
perverted existence?

Omarichu

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May 28, 2001, 8:20:57 PM5/28/01
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>Well, a better question is where were the parents of this child

Running back and forth across the freeway.

Dale Hicks

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May 28, 2001, 8:57:37 PM5/28/01
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In article <20010528095707...@ng-mp1.aol.com>,
v15vi...@aol.com says...

>
> Julian Roman was playing with friends, said Det. Eugene Canapi, a New York City
> police spokesman. The children were trying to jump from one rooftop to another
> in the Bedford Park section of the Bronx when Roman fell, Canapi said.

Whew.

For a minute there, I was scared he'd locked himself inside a microwave
and started it.

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Duggy (Paul A Duggan)

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May 28, 2001, 8:55:13 PM5/28/01
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On 28 May 2001, V15VINCENT wrote:

> 9-Year-Old Dies Playing "Superman" in Bronx

I remember in the NewsTime "Death of Superman" special William Shatner
told a story of jumping from a tree and breaking his arm pretending to be
Superman.

Now, this isn't an arguement for or against continiuty and the 10 year
timeline... but what was Shatner doing jumping from trees in 1984?

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May 28, 2001, 7:29:36 PM5/28/01
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<vze2...@mail.verizon.net> wrote:

"We didn't lose a cancer cure here..." - Bill Hicks

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Sean Walsh

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May 28, 2001, 11:00:53 PM5/28/01
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ubersteve <q...@z.com> wrote in message
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> Kyle's mom had it right. It most be those Canadians with their beady eyes
> and flapping heads. John Byrne was Canadian, so it must be their fault.
>
> The bombing starts at dawn.
>
> (feeling really guilty about this joke)

Why?

:p

Duggy (Paul A Duggan)

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May 29, 2001, 3:33:54 AM5/29/01
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On Mon, 28 May 2001, ali assa seen wrote:
> > Thank you, DC, you get an honorary Darwin award for removing another idiot from the
> > gene pool early.
> "We didn't lose a cancer cure here..." - Bill Hicks

Can't prove that. A 9yo without an ounce of common sense is not excluded
from becoming a successful medical researcher... unless they kill
themselves.

The_Vigilante

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May 29, 2001, 5:41:23 AM5/29/01
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Hey I was six years old! I couldn't figure out how to make a pair of wings.

Of course, thinking back now, we did have a chicken coop out back...

Vig
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Elayne Riggs

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May 29, 2001, 9:07:46 AM5/29/01
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Quoth GrapeApe <grap...@aol.comjunk>:

> Mary Poppins was problematic as well, I always thought a big umbrella and a
> decent wind would be tons of fun.

Yeah, one of my only memories from early childhood is walking to
kindergarten in the rain and trying to catch the wind with my umbrella. :)

- Elayne

Elayne Riggs

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May 29, 2001, 9:09:29 AM5/29/01
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Quoth Sean Walsh <wals...@hotmail.com>:

> All I know is: what you said about the "evolution in action" is 100% right.
> Life's all about survival of the fittest...

Which plays into the very mindset of the "bravery game" these foolish boys
were engaged in to begin with.

I look forward to the day when human life *isn't* looked at that way.

- Elayne

Jonathan Rhee

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May 29, 2001, 12:35:02 PM5/29/01
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Parents can't watch their wee spawn all the time, and frankly if they had
natural selection would have simply been unjustly thwarted. Somebody needs
to submit this one for a Darwin Award.

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Brian Jacks

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May 29, 2001, 1:43:58 PM5/29/01
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>From: "Jonathan Rhee" jr1...@columbia.edu

>Parents can't watch their wee spawn all the time, and frankly if they had
>natural selection would have simply been unjustly thwarted. Somebody needs
>to submit this one for a Darwin Award.

Oh, please. Do I understand that parents can't watch their kids all the time?
Certainly. But this was not an isolated case with this child. It's been
reported that him and friends routinely went roof-jumping. If this doesn't beg
the question, "where were the parents," I don't know what does.

I'm not even sure this qualifies as a Darwin Award. He's only 9 for God's
sake. And he wasn't jumping off a cliff thinking he could fly. He tried to
jump to another roof, something he'd done repeatedly in the past, and
apparently didn't jump far enough.

-brian

GQ11479

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May 29, 2001, 3:20:23 PM5/29/01
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>I'm not even sure this qualifies as a Darwin Award. He's only 9 for God's
>sake. And he wasn't jumping off a cliff thinking he could fly. He tried to
>jump to another roof, something he'd done repeatedly in the past, and
>apparently didn't jump far enough.
>

Well said...let's not act like any of US had more sense when WE were 9,
alright?

Jonathan Rhee

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May 29, 2001, 3:36:58 PM5/29/01
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"Brian Jacks" <viper...@aol.comakazi> wrote in message
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> >From: "Jonathan Rhee" jr1...@columbia.edu
>
> >Parents can't watch their wee spawn all the time, and frankly if they had
> >natural selection would have simply been unjustly thwarted. Somebody
needs
> >to submit this one for a Darwin Award.
>
> Oh, please. Do I understand that parents can't watch their kids all the
time?
> Certainly. But this was not an isolated case with this child. It's been
> reported that him and friends routinely went roof-jumping. If this
doesn't beg
> the question, "where were the parents," I don't know what does.

Actually it begs the question, "How did the PARENTS make it past 9?"

>
> I'm not even sure this qualifies as a Darwin Award. He's only 9 for God's
> sake. And he wasn't jumping off a cliff thinking he could fly. He tried
to

Sure it does. It's just a garden variety Darwin Award. Rates a 5/10 maybe...

Jonathan Rhee

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May 29, 2001, 3:42:06 PM5/29/01
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"GQ11479" <gq1...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Really? Can you honestly tell me that you would have taken a comparable risk
such as elevator or subway surfing at 9? Most of the kids I knew then had a
strong sense of that leading to splathood even at that age. Climbing
something high and then falling is one thing. I think most kids have done
that. JUMPING from said high, high place is another matter.


Brian Jacks

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May 29, 2001, 11:01:14 PM5/29/01
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>From: "Jonathan Rhee" jr1...@columbia.edu

>Really? Can you honestly tell me that you would have taken a comparable risk
>such as elevator or subway surfing at 9?

>Really? Can you honestly tell me that you would have taken a comparable risk
>such as elevator or subway surfing at 9?

The only thing I remember from when I was 9 was summer camp and creating some
inter-neighborhood militia group (Seriously, I did. Don't ask). That doesn't
mean that a 9 year old is completely capable of not doing stupid stuff. Would
you let a 9 year old fly a plane or drive a car? Shit, I wouldn't even let a 9
year old WASH my car. We don't know the exact circumstances behind this kid,
so I don't think we should go around calling this young kid the missing link.

-brian

Dale Hicks

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May 29, 2001, 11:19:33 PM5/29/01
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Derik Smith

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>Well, a better question is where were the parents of this child

...woah, I had this sudden flash of Phil Collins asking the exact same
question...

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BrYan Westbrook

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Jun 21, 2001, 9:57:35 PM6/21/01
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>"V15VINCENT" <v15vi...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20010528095707...@ng-mp1.aol.com...
>> 9-Year-Old Dies Playing "Superman" in Bronx
>>
>> May 28, 2001 6:41 am
>> NEW YORK (AP) -- A nine-year-old boy from the Bronx who was taken to the
>> hospital Sunday night after falling from a rooftop five stories high has
>died.

Did anybody else ever read Joseph Torchia's novel The Kryptonite Kid?

Johanna Draper Carlson

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Jun 22, 2001, 5:36:20 PM6/22/01
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BrYan Westbrook at swest...@austin.rr.com wrote:

> Did anybody else ever read Joseph Torchia's novel The Kryptonite Kid?

Tried to, but it's out of print and not in my local library.

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VertigoDC

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Jun 22, 2001, 9:13:17 PM6/22/01
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>> Did anybody else ever read Joseph Torchia's novel The Kryptonite Kid?

What's it about?

Please just call me Mike instead of VertigoDC.

Not all who wander are lost- J.R.R. Tolkien

JB Smith

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On 23 Jun 2001 01:13:17 GMT, vert...@aol.com (VertigoDC) wrote:

>>> Did anybody else ever read Joseph Torchia's novel The Kryptonite Kid?
>
>What's it about?
>
>Please just call me Mike instead of VertigoDC.
>

Been a few years since i read it, so my memories may be fuzzy. Kid
loves comics, especially superman. Kid's parents are having a rough
patch in life. Kid Uses comics as means of escaping the pressures in
his family. Kid loses touch with reality a bit and winds up jumping
off a roof and breaking his arm. Kid and parents start working things
out.
At least that is how I remember it. It is really more of a coming of
age story than anything else.

BrYan Westbrook

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Jun 23, 2001, 6:57:03 PM6/23/01
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 12:15:53 -0400, JB Smith <rimb...@geocities.com>
wrote:

>Been a few years since i read it, so my memories may be fuzzy. Kid
>loves comics, especially superman. Kid's parents are having a rough
>patch in life. Kid Uses comics as means of escaping the pressures in
>his family. Kid loses touch with reality a bit and winds up jumping
>off a roof and breaking his arm. Kid and parents start working things
>out.

Did it actually mention what he broke? I thought it was a little more
substantial than an arm, but it's been years. I found a first edition
a few years back at a used bookstore in Hope, Arkansas (that's right,
Slick Willie's hometown), to replace my tattered old paperback.

You forgot the most interesting part though: almost the entire book is
written as letters to Superman. Not letters to the Superman editor,
but to Superman himself because the kid, Jerry, actually believes that
Supes is real. He also talks about the storylines of a lot of old
Superman issues, which I always loved hearing about.

Unfortunately, as someone has already mentioned, it is long out of
print.

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