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Joe

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Aug 31, 2008, 1:30:55 PM8/31/08
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Not sure if DC did a Beatles comic or someone else did. Years ago
that was a company doing true life stuff dont remember the company
name or who they did the stories of.

Bob Hughes

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Aug 31, 2008, 3:05:30 PM8/31/08
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:30:55 -0700, Joe <skyki...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>
>Not sure if DC did a Beatles comic or someone else did. Years ago
>that was a company doing true life stuff dont remember the company
>name or who they did the stories of.

Dell published one in 1964
Gold Key published a Yellow Submarine comic in 1969
Marvel did an adaption of Sergeant Pepper but I think it only came out
in Great Britain
Pendulum Press did a Beatles Book in 1979
I don't think any of these are the one you're looking for.

Revolutionary did 65 issues of Rock and Roll comics but never covered
the Beatles. They did Paula Abdul though.

Jay A. Johnson

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Aug 31, 2008, 3:54:06 PM8/31/08
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"Bob Hughes" <bobh...@ttlc.net> wrote in message
news:niqlb4di45ookq1hg...@4ax.com...

And there was the issue of "Strange Tales" where the
cover proclaimed that "The Human Torch and the Thing...
MEET THE BEATLES!!!", with the Thing in a mop-top
wig. Classic bait-and-switch. As I remember it, the 'Beatles'
were 4 heads of hair seen from the back.


M.O.R

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Aug 31, 2008, 8:05:28 PM8/31/08
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> the Beatles. They did Paula Abdul though.

Who hasn't! ;)

Ba da Bum, Yeah!

M.O.R

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Aug 31, 2008, 8:06:04 PM8/31/08
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On Aug 31, 8:05 pm, Bob Hughes <bobhug...@ttlc.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:30:55 -0700, Joe <skyking...@comcast.net>

Who was it did a Prince issue?

OM

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Sep 1, 2008, 12:05:56 AM9/1/08
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:05:30 -0400, Bob Hughes <bobh...@ttlc.net>
wrote:

>Gold Key published a Yellow Submarine comic in 1969

...This book is notable because it was based on what appears to be two
or three early draft scripts tossed together before it was sent to
Dell. Some scenes are dead-on accurate, others don't even happen in
the movie after all. For example, there's a Sea of Old Movies, and
some of the Beatles *hits* are referenced, both of which were part of
the script *before* the Beatles decided to send songs they didn't
think much of because prior to seeing the work in progress they
thought the film was going to be a travesty like the ABC-TV cartoon
was. In addition, the whole battle against the Meanies is totally
different, and there's another supporting character named Rita - yeah,
a meter maid! - who provides a love interest for Old/Young Fred. The
fun thing about it is that if one were to put the movie and the
cartoon together, you'd have about a three-hour movie and one hell of
an experience even without the drugs!

OM
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OM

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Sep 1, 2008, 12:06:32 AM9/1/08
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:05:30 -0400, Bob Hughes <bobh...@ttlc.net>
wrote:

>They did Paula Abdul though.

...So did Arsenio Hall and the LA Lakers, but that's nothing to brag
about.

OM

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Sep 1, 2008, 12:08:28 AM9/1/08
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:54:06 -0700, "Jay A. Johnson"
<under...@cox.net> wrote:

>As I remember it, the 'Beatles'
>were 4 heads of hair seen from the back.

...There was also a one-panel scene where Sue and Alicia run right
between the four of those moptops in an attempt to get to the concert
on time. The running gag is that it's supposed to be just Alicia
that's blind.

Joe

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Sep 1, 2008, 7:37:59 AM9/1/08
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:05:30 -0400, Bob Hughes <bobh...@ttlc.net>
wrote:

>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:30:55 -0700, Joe <skyki...@comcast.net>

Paula Abdul rock and roll? What no Beatles in a rock and roll comic.
whats up with that

Joe

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Sep 1, 2008, 7:39:04 AM9/1/08
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:08:28 -0500, OM <om@all_trolls_must_DIE.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:54:06 -0700, "Jay A. Johnson"
><under...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>As I remember it, the 'Beatles'
>>were 4 heads of hair seen from the back.
>
>...There was also a one-panel scene where Sue and Alicia run right
>between the four of those moptops in an attempt to get to the concert
>on time. The running gag is that it's supposed to be just Alicia
>that's blind.
>
> OM

was that in the same comic?

gerard.morvan

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Sep 1, 2008, 5:49:45 PM9/1/08
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"Bob Hughes" <bobh...@ttlc.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
niqlb4di45ookq1hg...@4ax.com...

> Marvel did an adaption of Sergeant Pepper but I think it only came out
> in Great Britain

Also in Japan and in France (I saw it, along with the "Life of the Beatles"
comics, which was also drawn by George Pérez).

Gérard Morvan

"Kentoc'h Mervel!"


Will Dockery

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Sep 1, 2008, 7:27:50 PM9/1/08
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On Sep 1, 12:05 am, OM <om@all_trolls_must_DIE.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:05:30 -0400, Bob Hughes <bobhug...@ttlc.net>

> wrote:
>
> >Gold Key published a Yellow Submarine comic in 1969
>
> ...This book is notable because it was based on what appears to be two
> or three early draft scripts tossed together before it was sent to
> Dell. Some scenes are dead-on accurate, others don't even happen in
> the movie after all. For example, there's a Sea of Old Movies, and
> some of the Beatles *hits* are referenced, both of which were part of
> the script *before* the Beatles decided to send songs they didn't
> think much of because prior to seeing the work in progress they
> thought the film was going to be a travesty like the ABC-TV cartoon
> was. In addition, the whole battle against the Meanies is totally
> different, and there's another supporting character named Rita - yeah,
> a meter maid! - who provides a love interest for Old/Young Fred. The
> fun thing about it is that if one were to put the movie and the
> cartoon together, you'd have about a three-hour movie and one hell of
> an experience even without the drugs!

That it would... here's a cover scan...

http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Beatles-%20Yellow%20Submarine%20[Gold%20Key]%20OS1&img=0001.jpg

>                                 OM
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Bernie Woodham

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Sep 1, 2008, 7:46:00 PM9/1/08
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On Sep 1, 7:27 pm, Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 1, 12:05 am, OM <om@all_trolls_must_DIE.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:05:30 -0400, Bob Hughes <bobhug...@ttlc.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > >Gold Key published a Yellow Submarine comic in 1969
>
> > ...This book is notable because it was based on what appears to be two
> > or three early draft scripts tossed together before it was sent to
> > Dell. Some scenes are dead-on accurate, others don't even happen in
> > the movie after all. For example, there's a Sea of Old Movies, and
> > some of the Beatles *hits* are referenced, both of which were part of
> > the script *before* the Beatles decided to send songs they didn't
> > think much of because prior to seeing the work in progress they
> > thought the film was going to be a travesty like the ABC-TV cartoon
> > was. In addition, the whole battle against the Meanies is totally
> > different, and there's another supporting character named Rita - yeah,
> > a meter maid! - who provides a love interest for Old/Young Fred. The
> > fun thing about it is that if one were to put the movie and the
> > cartoon together, you'd have about a three-hour movie and one hell of
> > an experience even without the drugs!
>
> That it would... here's a cover scan...
>
> http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Beatles-%20Yellow%20...[Gold%20Key]%20OS1&img=0001.jpg
>

I have a Batman comic book that plays off of the Paul is Dead craze:

http://www.dbuggd.com/images/Batman222.jpg

Will Dockery

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Sep 1, 2008, 8:20:06 PM9/1/08
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On Sep 1, 7:27 pm, Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 1, 12:05 am, OM <om@all_trolls_must_DIE.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:05:30 -0400, Bob Hughes <bobhug...@ttlc.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > >Gold Key published a Yellow Submarine comic in 1969
>
> > ...This book is notable because it was based on what appears to be two
> > or three early draft scripts tossed together before it was sent to
> > Dell. Some scenes are dead-on accurate, others don't even happen in
> > the movie after all. For example, there's a Sea of Old Movies, and
> > some of the Beatles *hits* are referenced, both of which were part of
> > the script *before* the Beatles decided to send songs they didn't
> > think much of because prior to seeing the work in progress they
> > thought the film was going to be a travesty like the ABC-TV cartoon
> > was. In addition, the whole battle against the Meanies is totally
> > different, and there's another supporting character named Rita - yeah,
> > a meter maid! - who provides a love interest for Old/Young Fred. The
> > fun thing about it is that if one were to put the movie and the
> > cartoon together, you'd have about a three-hour movie and one hell of
> > an experience even without the drugs!
>
> That it would... here's a cover scan...
>
> http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Beatles-%20Yellow%20...[Gold%20Key]%20OS1&img=0001.jpg>

Well, looks like that link's broken, so it'll need to be put through
tinyurl.com, but meanwhile, there's a small scan of the cover here-

http://www.crazedfanboy.com/npcr08/retropcr435.html

And it turns out that Gold Key had a previous history of Beatles
comics-

http://waffyjon.blogspot.com/2005/03/beatles-gold-key-1.html

''...Unlike the animated series -- which was basically an animated
music video, with some short sequences before and after each song (and
the plot was also based on the song -- one of these days, these will
be available on DVD, and I'll be getting it and watching it
immediately!) -- the comic book version had more plots, and no songs
at all (apparently, there was a problem with
the rights to use lyrics, so aside from some generic "Yeah, Yeah,
Yeah" stuff happening when they performed, there was little plot with
them actually performing music).

The cover-featured story may have been an unused Gold Key plot, just
because of the idea being the Beatles go somewhere to perform a
concert, and get involved with something funky happening that they
have to solve.

"The Phantom of the Eiffel Tower" opens with the Beatles arriving in
Paris, naturally, and we're treated to a few panels of the Fab Four
doing a bit of sightseeing on their way to the hotel. (Their taxi
driver apparently was padding the fare some... They pass the Arc
D'Triomphe in one panel, which Paul identifies by name, and a few
panels later, they pass it again, causing John to remark, "And there's
the sequel to the Arc D'Triomphe, Let's D'Triomphe Again!"

The Beatles are to perform a concert at the foot of the Eiffel Tower,
naturally, and just as naturally, the Phantom appears to disrupt
things during their rehearsal (just before the Phantom appears, George
says, "Great radio antenna -- they must get great reception!"). The
Phantom, strangely enough, is dressed like Mickey Mouse's old foe, the
Phantom Blot! The Phantom sends some lights crashing down on stage
(Ringo: "He nearly got my rings with those things!"), and then yells
out that there will be no rock and roll at the Eiffel Tower!

Naturally, the boys have to investigate, and eventually, discover that
the Phantom was a Frank Sinatra-type singer who had just signed a
record contract, all set to be a teen sensation, until the Beatles
came out, driving his record off the charts so fast his own label
doesn't remember him
anymore). Paul is sympathetic to the Phantom's plight, and offers to
help him "update his style for the times" -- with the last panel of
the story being the Phantom, now sporting a Beatles haircut, and
wearing clothing like the Beatles (except in green), with the Beatles
performing as his back-up band!

A one-page story called "Ring-a-Ding Ringo" follows, which is similar
to many of the Archie comics one-page gags (this one involving Ringo
trying to answer phones for his girlfriend, a receptionist, while she
gets a cup of coffee -- by the time she returns, Ringo's all tangled
up in phone lines, letting her deliver the punch line when George
calls, "Ringo can't come to
the phone right now, he's all tied up!").

The second story in this issue isn't quite as entertaining as the
first -- and one I think was adapted from one of the cartoons, but I
could be wrong! "King Klong, Jungle Gorilla" escapes from a circus,
and naturally, he's very dangerous unless he hears music. Of course,
he runs into John, Paul, George and Ringo, and they accidentally
discover that King Klong will only calm
down when he hears music -- so we're treated to several pages of
reaction gags as the Beatles lead the gorilla back to the circus while
singing and playing their instruments (Ringo can't carry his drums,
naturally, so he plays whatever he can find along the way). Lots of
visual gags here, such as people becoming so scared they jump to the
top of a telephone pole, someone having an accident with their car and
trying to explain they crashed because they saw a gorilla following
four Beatles, etc. Apparently, at least two other issues were
produced, but I never found them anywhere!'' -Jon K

--
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXA4jekz_xk

Will Dockery

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Sep 2, 2008, 3:22:27 AM9/2/08
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Bernie Woodham wrote:
>Will Dockery wrote:
> >OM wrote:

> > >Bob Hughes wrote:
>
> > > >Gold Key published a Yellow Submarine comic in 1969
>
> > > ...This book is notable because it was based on what appears to be two
> > > or three early draft scripts tossed together before it was sent to
> > > Dell. Some scenes are dead-on accurate, others don't even happen in
> > > the movie after all. For example, there's a Sea of Old Movies, and
> > > some of the Beatles *hits* are referenced, both of which were part of
> > > the script *before* the Beatles decided to send songs they didn't
> > > think much of because prior to seeing the work in progress they
> > > thought the film was going to be a travesty like the ABC-TV cartoon
> > > was. In addition, the whole battle against the Meanies is totally
> > > different, and there's another supporting character named Rita - yeah,
> > > a meter maid! - who provides a love interest for Old/Young Fred. The
> > > fun thing about it is that if one were to put the movie and the
> > > cartoon together, you'd have about a three-hour movie and one hell of
> > > an experience even without the drugs!
>
> > That it would... here's a cover scan...
>
> >http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Beatles-%20Yellow%20...[Gold%20Key]%20OS1&img=0001.jpg
>
> I have a Batman comic book that plays off of the Paul is Dead craze:
>
> http://www.dbuggd.com/images/Batman222.jpg

Ah... I dimly remember that issue. Wonder if it's been reprinted
anytime recently.

--
"Wobble" by Will Dockery & Henry Conley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVIF2-qWIUc

Bernie Woodham

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Sep 2, 2008, 6:00:23 AM9/2/08
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On Sep 2, 3:22 am, Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bernie Woodham wrote:
>
> > I have a Batman comic book that plays off of the Paul is Dead craze:
>
> >http://www.dbuggd.com/images/Batman222.jpg
>
> Ah... I dimly remember that issue. Wonder if it's been reprinted
> anytime recently.
>

I don't think so. You can pick it up on eBay:

< http://cgi.ebay.com/BATMAN-222-FINE-6-5_W0QQitemZ120299631398QQihZ002QQcategoryZ32727QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>

Being able to fetch $25.00 seems to indicate the lack of a reprint.
One seller wants $250.00

Bernie Woodham

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Sep 2, 2008, 6:10:34 AM9/2/08
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On Sep 1, 7:27 pm, Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 1, 12:05 am, OM <om@all_trolls_must_DIE.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:05:30 -0400, Bob Hughes <bobhug...@ttlc.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > >Gold Key published a Yellow Submarine comic in 1969
>
> > ...This book is notable because it was based on what appears to be two
> > or three early draft scripts tossed together before it was sent to
> > Dell. Some scenes are dead-on accurate, others don't even happen in
> > the movie after all. For example, there's a Sea of Old Movies, and
> > some of the Beatles *hits* are referenced, both of which were part of
> > the script *before* the Beatles decided to send songs they didn't
> > think much of because prior to seeing the work in progress they
> > thought the film was going to be a travesty like the ABC-TV cartoon
> > was. In addition, the whole battle against the Meanies is totally
> > different, and there's another supporting character named Rita - yeah,
> > a meter maid! - who provides a love interest for Old/Young Fred. The
> > fun thing about it is that if one were to put the movie and the
> > cartoon together, you'd have about a three-hour movie and one hell of
> > an experience even without the drugs!
>
> That it would... here's a cover scan...
>
> http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Beatles-%20Yellow%20...[Gold%20Key]%20OS1&img=0001.jpg
>
Well, the eBay angle made me decide to do a search for Beatles
comics. It came up with 14 items and 76 more from various eBay
stores. A few of them are the Gold Key Yellow Submarine comic you
bring up. But, there are others like the "Rock 'n Roll Classics".

But besides the Yellow Submarine and the Batman, there are still a
couple that were contemporary with The Beatles career. One is a Jimmy
Olsen comic book where Jimmy is the "Golden Beatle of Rome". But
there is also a "My Little Margie" comic from November of 1964 that
features The Beatles. I guess it's called "My Little Margie in
Beatlemania"

< http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37.l1313&satitle=Beatles+comic&category0=
>

Joe

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Sep 2, 2008, 10:15:26 AM9/2/08
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On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 16:46:00 -0700 (PDT), Bernie Woodham
<birnh...@insightbb.com> wrote:

>http://www.dbuggd.com/images/Batman222.jpg

was that a real comic? interesting. never seen that one.

Joe

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On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 16:46:00 -0700 (PDT), Bernie Woodham
<birnh...@insightbb.com> wrote:


Oh ok. just saw the cover on the net. it is not a doctored one.
interesting.

Will Dockery

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On Sep 2, 10:20 am, Joe wrote:
>Bernie Woodham wrote:
> >Will Dockery wrote:
> >> OM wrote:
> >> >Bob Hughes wrote:
>
> >> > >Gold Key published a Yellow Submarine comic in 1969
>
> >> > ...This book is notable because it was based on what appears to be two
> >> > or three early draft scripts tossed together before it was sent to
> >> > Dell. Some scenes are dead-on accurate, others don't even happen in
> >> > the movie after all. For example, there's a Sea of Old Movies, and
> >> > some of the Beatles *hits* are referenced, both of which were part of
> >> > the script *before* the Beatles decided to send songs they didn't
> >> > think much of because prior to seeing the work in progress they
> >> > thought the film was going to be a travesty like the ABC-TV cartoon
> >> > was. In addition, the whole battle against the Meanies is totally
> >> > different, and there's another supporting character named Rita - yeah,
> >> > a meter maid! - who provides a love interest for Old/Young Fred. The
> >> > fun thing about it is that if one were to put the movie and the
> >> > cartoon together, you'd have about a three-hour movie and one hell of
> >> > an experience even without the drugs!
>
> >> That it would... here's a cover scan...
>
> >>http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Beatles-%20Yellow%20...[Gold%20Key]%20OS1&img=0001.jpg
>
> >I have a Batman comic book that plays off of the Paul is Dead craze:
>
> >http://www.dbuggd.com/images/Batman222.jpg
>
> Oh ok. just saw the cover on the net. it is not a doctored one.
> interesting.

Yeah, it was real... I actually remember when it came out, right
around the last gasps of the group, if my memory serves me well. I was
slightly disappointed at the time because they weren't ''really'' The
Beatles, but Saul Cartwright and other renamed/parodies in the Oliver
Twists. Now, I think that was a better way to handle the it, and if
the idea had hit well enough with the readers, the OTs could have
possibly have become a permanent part of the DC Universe.

Something I don't remember, though, is another Paul McCartney clone
who appeared in Teen Titans, around issue 46, that I read about last
night but don't have the link or info handy right now... seems to be a
DC Universe version of Wings, from what I read.

Daibhid Ceanaideach

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Sep 2, 2008, 10:20:39 AM9/2/08
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The Oliver Twists also appear in an issue of All-New Atom, in which
aliens have altered Ivytown so it's still the sixties.

--
Dave
So I looked, and behold, a pale horse.
And the name of him who sat on it was Death.
And the name of the horse was Binky.

Will Dockery

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Sep 2, 2008, 10:39:55 AM9/2/08
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Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:

>Will Dockery wrote:
> >Joe wrote:
> >>Bernie Woodham wrote:
>>>> OM wrote:
>>>>>Bob Hughes wrote:
>
> >> >> > >Gold Key published a Yellow Submarine comic in 1969
>
> >> >> > ...This book is notable because it was based on what appears to
> >> >> > be two
> >> >> > or three early draft scripts tossed together before it was sent
> >> >> > to Dell. Some scenes are dead-on accurate, others don't even
> >> >> > happen in the movie after all. For example, there's a Sea of Old
> >> >> > Movies, and some of the Beatles *hits* are referenced, both of
> >> >> > which were part of
> >> >> > the script *before* the Beatles decided to send songs they
> >> >> > didn't think much of because prior to seeing the work in
> >> >> > progress they thought the film was going to be a travesty like
> >> >> > the ABC-TV cartoon was. In addition, the whole battle against
> >> >> > the Meanies is totally different, and there's another supporting
> >> >> > character named Rita - yeah,
> >> >> > a meter maid! - who provides a love interest for Old/Young Fred.
> >> >> > The fun thing about it is that if one were to put the movie and
> >> >> > the cartoon together, you'd have about a three-hour movie and
> >> >> > one hell of
> >> >> > an experience even without the drugs!
>
> >> >I have a Batman comic book that plays off of the Paul is Dead craze:
>
> >> >http://www.dbuggd.com/images/Batman222.jpg
>
> >> Oh ok. just saw the cover on the net. it is not a doctored one.
> >> interesting.
>
> > Yeah, it was real... I actually remember when it came out, right
> > around the last gasps of the group, if my memory serves me well. I was
> > slightly disappointed at the time because they weren't ''really'' The
> > Beatles, but Saul Cartwright and other renamed/parodies in the Oliver
> > Twists. Now, I think that was a better way to handle the it, and if
> > the idea had hit well enough with the readers, the OTs could have
> > possibly have become a permanent part of the DC Universe.
>
> > Something I don't remember, though, is another Paul McCartney clone
> > who appeared in Teen Titans, around issue 46, that I read about last
> > night but don't have the link or info handy right now... seems to be a
> > DC Universe version of Wings, from what I read.
>
> The Oliver Twists also appear in an issue of All-New Atom, in which
> aliens have altered Ivytown so it's still the sixties.

Wow, that's interesting... is this something fairly recent?

I hardly keep up with anything newer than 1987 or so... heh.

--
"Wobble" by Will Dockery & Henry Conley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVIF2-qWIUc

> --

Bip Bop

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Sep 2, 2008, 12:23:51 PM9/2/08
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On Sep 1, 6:46 pm, Bernie Woodham <birnhamw...@insightbb.com> wrote:

> I have a Batman comic book that plays off of the Paul is Dead craze:
>
> http://www.dbuggd.com/images/Batman222.jpg

Here are a lot of references to The Beatles in comics:

http://es.geocities.com/melgarbeatles3/comics/comics.html

Daibhid Ceanaideach

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Sep 2, 2008, 7:40:05 PM9/2/08
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On 02 Sep 2008, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:

>> The Oliver Twists also appear in an issue of All-New Atom, in which
>> aliens have altered Ivytown so it's still the sixties.
>
> Wow, that's interesting... is this something fairly recent?
>
> I hardly keep up with anything newer than 1987 or so... heh.

Yep, just last year.

BLACKPOOLJIMMY

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Sep 2, 2008, 7:42:56 PM9/2/08
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Welcome back

Bip Bop

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Sep 2, 2008, 8:05:56 PM9/2/08
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Thanks, Jim! Thanks also to a few other kind souls, who wrote me,
personally requesting my return!

I shall for my own health and well being, and for that of the group
avoid "the frays".

"AllaBest From Me To You!"
+ John Lennon +


waltbrad

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On Sep 2, 7:40 pm, Daibhid Ceanaideach <daibhidchened...@aol.com>
wrote:

> On 02 Sep 2008, Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> >> The Oliver Twists also appear in an issue of All-New Atom, in which
> >> aliens have altered Ivytown so it's still the sixties.
>
> > Wow, that's interesting... is this something fairly recent?
>
> > I hardly keep up with anything newer than 1987 or so... heh.
>
> Yep, just last year.
>
Now this is pretty bizarre. In trying to locate an article on this
All-New Atom edition, I came across this website where they imply that
a Superman comic book may have been the inspiration for The Beatles
writing "She Loves You". A Bizzaro Lois Lane was singing a song with
the radio with very similar lyrics, (so this blog says):

"Now, remember: "She Loves You" didn't become an actual recording
until sometime later in the U.K., which was AFTER this bizarro
appearence. So---Did Paul and John see this book and get inspired by
her wacky lyrics and create one of their best known songs?"

http://beatlesandbizarros.blogspot.com/

Will Dockery

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On Sep 2, 7:40 pm, Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:

> On 02 Sep 2008, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>
>> The Oliver Twists also appear in an issue of All-New Atom, in which
> >> aliens have altered Ivytown so it's still the sixties.
>
> > Wow, that's interesting... is this something fairly recent?
>
> > I hardly keep up with anything newer than 1987 or so... heh.
>
> Yep, just last year.

Thanks for the heads up, I'll have to go the comicshop tomorrow and
have a look at that... and meanwhile do a bit of Googling on it.

Will Dockery

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Bernie Woodham wrote:

>Will Dockery wrote:
> >OM wrote:
> > >Bob Hughes wrote:
>
> > > >Gold Key published a Yellow Submarine comic in 1969
>
> > > ...This book is notable because it was based on what appears to be two
> > > or three early draft scripts tossed together before it was sent to
> > > Dell. Some scenes are dead-on accurate, others don't even happen in
> > > the movie after all. For example, there's a Sea of Old Movies, and
> > > some of the Beatles *hits* are referenced, both of which were part of
> > > the script *before* the Beatles decided to send songs they didn't
> > > think much of because prior to seeing the work in progress they
> > > thought the film was going to be a travesty like the ABC-TV cartoon
> > > was. In addition, the whole battle against the Meanies is totally
> > > different, and there's another supporting character named Rita - yeah,
> > > a meter maid! - who provides a love interest for Old/Young Fred. The
> > > fun thing about it is that if one were to put the movie and the
> > > cartoon together, you'd have about a three-hour movie and one hell of
> > > an experience even without the drugs!
>
> I have a Batman comic book that plays off of the Paul is Dead craze:
>
> http://www.dbuggd.com/images/Batman222.jpg

Scott Shaw the king of oddball comics, gives a great rundown on the
Oliver Twists, the Beatles of the DC Universe [that should keep Duggy
off my back...heh] -

http://www.oddballcomics.com/article.php?story=archive2002-09-16&query=crimefighters

Title: Batman
Issue: No. 222
Date: June, 1970
Publisher: National Periodical Publications, Inc. (DC Comics)
Cover Artist(s): Neal Adams

''...This issue’s 16-page cover-story, “Dead…Till Proven Alive!”, was
written by Frank Robbins, penciled by Irv Novick and inked by Dick
Giordano. The tale opens in Hudson University’s men’s dormitory, where
teenage Dick (Robin The Boy Wonder) Grayson and his student pals are
listening to a radio broadcast of “Summer Knights”, the latest record
by the top British rock ‘n’ roll group, the Oliver Twists...''

[...]

''...Bruce (Batman) Wayne -- who just happens to be a major
stockholder in the Twists’ label, Eden Records -- arranging for the
band to have some peace and quiet at Wayne Manor during their
stateside stay. Wearing their “Sgt. Pepper” style uniforms, the band –
consisting of Saul, Glennan, Benji and Hal – enjoy the hospitality,
apparently unaware that they’re being observed, recorded and analyzed
by their American hosts – who just happen to be Batman and Robin!''

[...]

Suspecting that Saul (whatever his actual identity) is responsible
for setting the unsuccessful trap, Batman and Robin confront the
assembled Oliver Twists. Suddenly, Glennan (the Twists’ John Lennon
lookalike) pulls a gun on the caped crusaders, but working together,
Saul and Robin disarm him. Finally, tearful Saul reveals the truth
behind the rumors:

SAUL CARTWRIGHT:
I’M not the phony – THEY are!
ROBIN:
What?!

SAUL CARTWRIGHT:
You heard me right! These lads are the PUT-ONS! Because GLENNAN >sob<,
BENJI…HAL…my good old buddies…they’re DEAD! Killed last year in a
crash of a private jet that was taking them to groove with the
mysteries of the East! They’re >sob< lying buried somewhere in the
trackless snows of the HIMALAYAS! I thought I could keep them “ALIVE”
to their devoted fans the world over…by recruiting THREE UNKNOWN LOOK-
ALIKES to stand-in for them! Some minor plastic-surgery and almost a
year of coaching – and they were good! REAL GOOD! But the big trick
was to prevent any wild rumors of their death springing up – and
upsetting the applecart! So I dreamed up my “death” – as a decoy to
focus all curiosity on me! That way, who would even begin to suspect
that ANYTHING had happened to my three team-mates? And then – THEY
flew back, out of their incommunicado junket, in a DUPLICATE plane –
right back into the HEARTS of their DEVOTEES! I – I only tried to
preserve their “IMAGE” – but I hadn’t figured on this ONE weak link!
Chumley’s GREED! Which made him go to any length to protect our
fraudulent group…and the FASTEST INCOME he’s ever seen in his whole
miserable life!

BATMAN:
I believe now that you set up this cockeyed scheme with the noblest of
motives, Saul – but like all dishonest put-ons, it BACK-FIRED! You
realize now that the world has to learn the TRUE STORY, Saul! But if
you face up to it and level with them, your fans will understand!

ROBIN:
As WE do! Besides, if these boys are as “real good” as you say they
are – you may have a new group and a new sound!

Soon, Saul leads his new “smash trio” – now called “The Phoenix” – in
a live concert at Hudson University.

FAN:
Yay – PHOENIX! We LUV ya!
----

Phoenix... Saul Cartright's solo band, created quite some time before
Wings, interesting.

Now, I read somewhere yesterday that another version of Paul
McCartney, possibly Saul again, appeared in Teen Titans 46... gotta go
look for that.

Daibhid Ceanaideach

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On 03 Sep 2008, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Now, I read somewhere yesterday that another version of Paul
> McCartney, possibly Saul again, appeared in Teen Titans 46... gotta go
> look for that.

According to the DC Database, this character was called Peter McCarthy. The
story also featured Laura McCarthy and Kathy and Ricky Woodworker.

http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Teen_Titans_Vol_1_46

rfor...@msn.com

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That is zany....the pictures of Paul and Ringo with comics are cool,
esp. the one of Paul with a whole collection of DC's on top of the
organ, I don't think I ever saw that before! The blogger doesn't know
the difference between a piano and an organ; but a scan from the Lois
Lane comic book he was describing (if it really exists!) would be
helpful in evaluating his little theory.

richforman

Lee K. Seitz

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In article <niqlb4di45ookq1hg...@4ax.com>,

Bob Hughes <bobh...@ttlc.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:30:55 -0700, Joe <skyki...@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Not sure if DC did a Beatles comic or someone else did. Years ago
>>that was a company doing true life stuff dont remember the company
>>name or who they did the stories of.
>
>Dell published one in 1964
>Gold Key published a Yellow Submarine comic in 1969
>Marvel did an adaption of Sergeant Pepper but I think it only came out
>in Great Britain
>Pendulum Press did a Beatles Book in 1979
>I don't think any of these are the one you're looking for.
>
>Revolutionary did 65 issues of Rock and Roll comics but never covered
>the Beatles. They did Paula Abdul though.

Marvel also did "The Beatles Story" as Marvel Comics Super Special #4
(http://www.comics.org/details.lasso?id=31788) back in 1978.

--
lkseitz (Lee K. Seitz) .at. hiwaay @dot@ net
THOR: Yoost you waita, Loki! You ban getta beaten you won't forgestsk!
-- Mark Gruenwald, "What If Thor Had a Swedish Accent?",
_What If?_, vol. 1, #34

Will Dockery

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Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:

> On 03 Sep 2008, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > Now, I read somewhere yesterday that another version of Paul
> > McCartney, possibly Saul again, appeared in Teen Titans 46... gotta go
> > look for that.
>
> According to the DC Database, this character was called Peter McCarthy. The
> story also featured Laura McCarthy and Kathy and Ricky Woodworker.
>
> http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Teen_Titans_Vol_1_46

Thanks, I wasn't finding much on it, so far, although I did find an
interesting overall article on the original incarnation of the TT-

http://www.titanstower.com/source/libearly/amaztt1.html

''...Teen Titans #46 was another notable story because it introduced
the Joker's daughter (from Batman Family), reintroduced the Earth-Two
Fiddler on Earth-One, had a cameo by Jack Ryder (a.k.a. The Creeper)
and further revealed that the new Teen Titans headquarters was slated
to be a disco/restaurant in Farmingdale, New York (the hometown of
writer Rozakis)...''

So I suppose there was some connection between this disco mentioned
and the Peter McCarthy et al characters.

--
Truck Stop Woman by Dockery and Conley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXA4jekz_xk

Daibhid Ceanaideach

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On 03 Sep 2008, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>> On 03 Sep 2008, Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> > Now, I read somewhere yesterday that another version of Paul
>> > McCartney, possibly Saul again, appeared in Teen Titans 46... gotta
>> > go look for that.
>>
>> According to the DC Database, this character was called Peter
>> McCarthy. The story also featured Laura McCarthy and Kathy and Ricky
>> Woodworker.
>>
>> http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Teen_Titans_Vol_1_46
>
> Thanks, I wasn't finding much on it, so far, although I did find an
> interesting overall article on the original incarnation of the TT-
>
> http://www.titanstower.com/source/libearly/amaztt1.html
>
> ''...Teen Titans #46 was another notable story because it introduced
> the Joker's daughter (from Batman Family), reintroduced the Earth-Two
> Fiddler on Earth-One, had a cameo by Jack Ryder (a.k.a. The Creeper)
> and further revealed that the new Teen Titans headquarters was slated
> to be a disco/restaurant in Farmingdale, New York (the hometown of
> writer Rozakis)...''
>
> So I suppose there was some connection between this disco mentioned
> and the Peter McCarthy et al characters.

Looking around that site, I found this:

http://www.titanstower.com/source/libindex/teentitans1.html

which gives a bit more detail about that story, and reveals a twist
ending that makes the one in "Dead Until Proven Alive" look positively
tame 8-):

"When the Fiddler appears to have kidnapped both groups, the Titans, with
the aid of the Joker's Daughter, battle and capture him, only to discover
that the Flyers and the Woodworkers have always secretly been the same
people in different guises and had arranged their own seeming abduction
to avoid having to appear in both identities simultaneously."

It doesn't say whether Peter and Laura/Ricky and Kathy were siblings
posing as a married couple or vice versa, although IMO it's equally
disturbing either way...

OM

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On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:09:18 -0700 (PDT), rfor...@msn.com wrote:

>.the pictures of Paul and Ringo with comics are cool,
>esp. the one of Paul with a whole collection of DC's on top of the
>organ, I don't think I ever saw that before!

...Paul apparently got hooked on US comics during the Beatles' first
US tours, and reportedly still is a big Marvel fan.

OM
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Bip Bop

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Sep 3, 2008, 5:45:54 PM9/3/08
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I used to have grocery sacks full of Superman, Superboy, Action,
Adventure, Jimmy Olson, and Lois Lane comics. I loaned then to a
friend who subsequently claimed that his mother threw them away.

If I still had them, I would be rich, and I would actually have this
comic below! I remember when they went up from 10 cents to 12.

http://www.mybeatles.net/imagesmedia/jimmy_olsen.html

Will Dockery

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Haven't made it out to get a copy yet, and am finding slight mentions
on the web so far, but apparently the original line-up of the Oliver
Twists are there... anyone out there read this issue and can give some
details on how they play into the story?

http://www.comics.org/details.lasso?id=374981

All New Atom, The #16

Character appearances:
Atom [Ryan Choi]; Panda [Doctor Potter]; Professor Helmond Kettering;
Doctor Thomas Dinawa; Doctor Martin Campbell; The Head; Copernicus
(dog); Dean Mayland; The Twists [Benji Stark; Saul Cartwright; Glennan
Johnston; Hal Farmington]; Ryak (a Linear Man); Claude; VILLAIN: Xotar
[as Swami Vedah]

And more great stuff on the Batman/Oliver Twists story, with quite a
bit of art from the comic-

http://www.the-isb.com/?p=315

And, wow, the entire story is scanned here, Batman 222-

http://xoomer.alice.it/james_paul_mccartney/paul_is%20_dead_batman.html

Script by Frank Robbins and art by Irv Novick and Dick Giordano.

--
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OM

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On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:08:11 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery
<will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:

>The Twists [Benji Stark; Saul Cartwright; Glennan
>Johnston; Hal Farmington]

...Which has me wondering how the DCU came up with an analog for The
Rutles.

OM

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On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:08:11 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery
<will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:

>And, wow, the entire story is scanned here, Batman 222-
>
>http://xoomer.alice.it/james_paul_mccartney/paul_is%20_dead_batman.html

...There's something about that pink-on-white "Bat-logo" that says
something *other* than psychedelic :-P :-P

Daibhid Ceanaideach

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On 04 Sep 2008, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:

>> The Oliver Twists also appear in an issue of All-New Atom, in which
>> aliens have altered Ivytown so it's still the sixties.
>
> Haven't made it out to get a copy yet, and am finding slight mentions
> on the web so far, but apparently the original line-up of the Oliver
> Twists are there... anyone out there read this issue and can give some
> details on how they play into the story?

I've dug out my copy. Essentially, Xotar, inspired by an encounter with a
hippy in 1967, uses a "chronal regression field" to make everyone in
Ivytown think its the sixties (the field also alters the physical
appearance of things to fit). The Atom is unaffected, because his dwarf-
star tech interferes with the field, and his first clue something is up
is when his friend Panda is suddenly dressed like a hippy and talking
about the new Twists LP ("Dead Till Proven Alive").

(Throughout the issue, they're called the Twists, rather than the Oliver
Twists, which is odd since everything about them is clearly taken
directly from the Batman story.)

Xotar then stages a free concert to amplify the effect, downloading the
personalities of the Twists into four blank robots. At the concert the
Twists perform "Summer Knight", but the Atom connects his MP3 player to
the machine that controls the robots, turning them into groups resembling
the Village People, a group I don't recognise, the Ronettes, the
Temptations and a punk band, before finally using alien music, which is
so discordant the machine can't handle it.

So the real Twists (or even Pheonix) never appear. There's also a poster
before the change advertising a Saul Cartwright concert, but we never see
him in person.

Will Dockery

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On Sep 4, 10:02 am, Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:

Seems like the time is right for a Saul Cartwright comic, either
before or after the terrible airplane disaster that killed the other
three Twists.

Grant Morrison is probably either too busy or not interested, but in
more Beatles in the DC Universe, I did notice that a few years ago he
used John Lennon under his real name in The Invisibles-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invisibles

''...The first issue, "Dead Beatles," has the deputy leader of the
Invisibles, King Mob, summoning the spirit of John Lennon to help find
a new member of the Invisibles to replace missing teammate John-A-
Dreams. King Mob is led to a Liverpool hooligan named Dane
McGowan...''

http://www.salon.com/media/eric/1999/03/03eric2.html

''...As it happens, the two ghosts Dane overhears on the banks of the
Thames are a very young John Lennon arguing with a very young Stu
Sutcliffe about why the latter shouldn't leave the band. Decades after
Lennon's death at 40, and even longer after Sutcliffe's at 22, Dane's
hallucination seems no less ancient history than Byron and Shelley
arguing about life and art on the canals of Venice (which in fact also
takes place in "The Invisibles," a few issues later). It's a time when
ghosts, flung loose from meaning and all its bearings, are
commonplace, and when the 1960s have plummeted so far through the
glass darkly that lives and deaths like Lennon's and Sutcliffe's seem
innocent and quaint, the last gasp of childhood before the blossoming
adolescence of mankind. It's a new millennium better defined by the
assassination of its own John Lennon...''

And back to the Oliver Twists, I too wonder why this newer appaearance
shortens the name down to the much more mundane Twists, unless it's
much like the commonplace practice of calling the Rolling Stones the
Stones.

I hope to snare a copy of Atom 16 this afternoon, so more comments
will likely follow, later...

--
"Wobble" written by Will Dockery & Henry Conley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVIF2-qWIUc


OM

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On 4 Sep 2008 14:02:32 GMT, Daibhid Ceanaideach
<daibhidc...@aol.com> wrote:

>(Throughout the issue, they're called the Twists, rather than the Oliver
>Twists, which is odd since everything about them is clearly taken
>directly from the Batman story.)

...This is like calling the Beatles the "tles".

OM

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On 4 Sep 2008 14:02:32 GMT, Daibhid Ceanaideach
<daibhidc...@aol.com> wrote:

>before finally using alien music, which is
>so discordant the machine can't handle it.

...Probably "Achy Breaky Heart" :-P

BlackMonk

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"Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3851723e-9ede-47f4...@1g2000pre.googlegroups.com...

< And back to the Oliver Twists, I too wonder why this newer appaearance
shortens the name down to the much more mundane Twists, unless it's
much like the commonplace practice of calling the Rolling Stones the
Stones. >

They probably just didn't think anyone would get the reference.


OM

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On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:34:12 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery
<will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:

>And back to the Oliver Twists, I too wonder why this newer appaearance
>shortens the name down to the much more mundane Twists, unless it's
>much like the commonplace practice of calling the Rolling Stones the
>Stones.

...Who in the DCU are probably called the Brian Jones Band :-)

Will Dockery

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Sep 5, 2008, 3:19:35 PM9/5/08
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On Sep 4, 1:11 am, OM wrote:

>Will Dockery wrote:
>
>And, wow, the entire story is scanned here, Batman 222-
>
> >http://xoomer.alice.it/james_paul_mccartney/paul_is%20_dead_batman.html
>
> ...There's something about that pink-on-white "Bat-logo" that says
> something *other* than psychedelic :-P :-P

On that note, there's also Robin refering to Batman as ''What a
cutie...''

--
"Wobble" written by Will Dockery & Henry Conley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVIF2-qWIUc

>                                 OM
> --
>    ]=====================================[
>    ]   OMBlog -http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld  [

Will Dockery

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Bill Steele

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On 11/29/14, 1:57 PM, Will Dockery wrote:
> Batman & The Beatles? What more could anyone ask for?!?
>
> http://silentinsanity.wordpress.com/english-translations/the-day-batman-investigated-the-beatles-i-mean-almost/
>


Well, Country Joe and the Fish once showed up in Fantastic Four.

Rink

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Op 29-11-2014 om 19:57 schreef Will Dockery:
As far as I can see is Saul (Paul) barefoot on the Batman cover.
And not Glennan (Lennon).

The mistake is that that Saul wears his guitar as a right handed player,
but Paul is left handed.

Kevrob

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Six years between posts!

Do you know the term "necroposting?"

Cover by Neal Adams

https://www.comics.org/issue/23498/cover/4/

Kevin R

Rink

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Op 2-5-2020 om 5:18 schreef Kevrob:
> On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 1:44:15 PM UTC-4, Rink wrote:
>> Op 29-11-2014 om 19:57 schreef Will Dockery:
>>> Batman & The Beatles? What more could anyone ask for?!?
>>>
>>> <http://silentinsanity.wordpress.com/english-translations/the-day-batman-investigated-the-beatles-i-mean-almost/>
>>
>>
>> As far as I can see is Saul (Paul) barefoot on the Batman cover.
>> And not Glennan (Lennon).
>>
>> The mistake is that that Saul wears his guitar as a right handed player,
>> but Paul is left handed.
>
> Six years between posts!
>
> Do you know the term "necroposting?"

No, never heard of necroposting.


>
> Cover by Neal Adams
>
> https://www.comics.org/issue/23498/cover/4/
>
> Kevin R
>

Thank you for the cover.

I see now the name of the group is Oliver Twists and the members are:
[Saul Cartwright; Glennan [Chumley]; Benji [Pritchard]; Hal [Gilbey]]
(Beatles lookalikes)

https://www.comics.org/issue/512494/#752738


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