when was the last incredible Superman story?
swintronix
to blow me away. I get excited when it isn't boring.
When was the last (or any) incredible Superman run? Like, kick-ass and
worth tracking down?
Sean MacDonald
The two-part "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow" by Alan Moore.
Yeah, that was about 20 years ago, but I would still say that's the
last *great* Superman story.
Before that, maybe "The Return of Jonathan Kent".
Jay Furr
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Well, the "Up, Up and Away" storyline most recently was a fun read,
but kick ass? You might want to try the Emperor Joker storyline just
collected in a TPB mainly because it's so different. He was an ass-
kicker and a half in the Worlds At War storyline, so that's a fun read
(and don't forget the Superman vs Darkseid one-shot that's a coda to
it). There's the Neverending Battle storyline where he has to fight
pretty much his entire rogues gallery that ran through all the books,
but I don't think has been collected. And underrated General Zod
storyline in Action 801-805 (but the three part Supergirls follow-up
was fun too).
Outside of that, the best place to look would actually be Grant
Morrison's run on JLA. He loves Superman and it shows. Let's you
know where his excellent All Star Superman comes from.
badth...@yahoo.com
Oh. I didn't know we were going old school on him. I kept it recent.
Denny Colt
swintronix
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I was crossing my fingers that the Alan Moore stuff wouldn't be the only
things mentioned. They're good, but I am hoping that at some point between
'85 and 2005 there was a really great Superman run. I'll definitely look
for old Morrison JLA... there are always copied of that at the 2nd-hand book
store. I bought the Emperor Joker trade a few weeks ago but haven't
finished it, which isn't a good sign. Been eyeing that Worlds at War
though. I actually like McGuiness.
Oh, you know what was a pretty good Superman story? The Superman/SHAZAM
First Thunder.
Denny Colt
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Worlds at War is great at times, and the collection is an aweseom
value, but because it's a big crossover event, it doesn't really segue
from one issue to the next very well - it's particularly choppy in the
beginning, but by about 25% in I was riveted. Also, there are two
issues near the climax which really should have been in reverse order
- but there are some great stories and it's really a DCU-wide story, I
met a lot of new characters. it was actually the Young Justice issues
that inspired me to pick up the trades of the current Teen Titans
series which is friggin great, so that alone was worth it.
Another recent GREAT Superman story was Kindom Come - that got me
fascinated with the character after a long abscence.
Jay Furr
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> On Feb 9, 11:52 am, Jay Furr <jfurr-nos...@nospam-furrs.org> wrote:
>> "Sean MacDonald" <tha...@netscape.com> wrote
>> innews:1171037703....@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > The two-part "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow" by Alan
>> > Moore. Yeah, that was about 20 years ago, but I would still say
>> > that's the last *great* Superman story.
>>
>> > Before that, maybe "The Return of Jonathan Kent".
>>
>> Hey, don't forget that DC Comics Presents "team-up" between Swamp
>> Thing and Superman in the Crimson Jungle.
>>
>
> Oh. I didn't know we were going old school on him. I kept it recent.
Sorry. Whenever I think of "kick-ass Superman story" I think of that one.
For some reason, I really, really liked it.
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badth...@yahoo.com
> On 09 Feb 2007, Jay Furr <jfurr-nos...@nospam-furrs.org> re-ordered
> random electrons to communicate as follows:
>
> > "Sean MacDonald" <tha...@netscape.com> wrote in
> >news:1171037703....@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> The two-part "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow" by Alan
> >> Moore. Yeah, that was about 20 years ago, but I would still say
> >> that's the last *great* Superman story.
>
> >> Before that, maybe "The Return of Jonathan Kent".
>
> > Hey, don't forget that DC Comics Presents "team-up" between Swamp
> > Thing and Superman in the Crimson Jungle.
>
> I see you and raise you that Jim Starlin Mongul/Supergirl/Spectre trilogy
> in DCCP. :)
>
M.O.R
All Star Superman and Gail Simones short, but well loved couple of
issues. She's down to Earth. funny and a good writer, and that's
probably why she has such a fan following. And the fact she is a
really nice person.
Kevin Chang
A Superman for All Seasons was very, very good but I'm not sure I'd
_quite_ call it "incredible".
Secret Identity was excellent, but its not about the DCU Superman.
I'd say the majority of great Superman stories from the past decade were
actually in Superman: The Animated Series and JL/JLU:TAS.
K.
Michael S. Schiffer
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>...
> I was crossing my fingers that the Alan Moore stuff wouldn't be
> the only things mentioned. They're good, but I am hoping that
> at some point between '85 and 2005 there was a really great
> Superman run.
If Elseworlds count, I quite liked Superman: War of the Worlds.
Probably the best pastiche of the early Siegel/Shuster Superman I've
seen. Busiek's Superman: Secret Identity was also very good.
> I'll definitely look for old Morrison JLA...
> there are always copied of that at the 2nd-hand book store.
I liked Morrison's JLA quite a bit, but they're not really Superman
stories as such. (Though there are some nice bits: "This is the guy
who thought he couldn't live up to his legend? He's wrestling an
angel.") Morrison does occasionally let his cascade of cool-sounding
ideas get in the way of the storytelling, IMHO. Overall it works,
but sometimes it feels as if it's trying a little too hard.
Mike
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Morrison's All-Star Superman, about a month or two ago.
Before that, the Elseworlds "Superman: Secret Identity" was quite
excellent, as was "A Superman for All Seasons".
Odd that none of these are in the mainstream DCU continuity. I blame
the post-COIE reboot -- they took the ridiculous out of Superman's
history, but all of the fun too.
Pick up one of the Showcase Presents: Superman books. It's a good read
if you're into that sort of stuff. Or it will bore you silly.
--Gustavo
badth...@yahoo.com
Since I didn't go old school like the others, let me make up for it
now by bringing up Action Comics 471-473 when Faora led a break-out
from the Phantom Zone. This came out in 1977, so when I first saw
Superman The Movie I couldn't believe they'd a) gotten her name wrong
and called her Ursa and b) had her taking orders when she was the
boss. It was a great story.
George Alexander Jr.
cousin,Cru-El.I'm not making that up.
To add to the other stories already mentioned,I'll add two from
different Annuals(one was Action and another Superman istr).The first
was how Dr.Sivana stole the power of SHAZAM! and fought both the Earth-1
and Earth-2 Superman.For each major victory he achieved he raised his
rank up.By the end of the book he went from "Captain Sivana" to "General
Sivana".
The second one featured the Earth-1 and Earth-2 Supermen teaming up
to fight against Lex Luthor(Earth-1),Alexi Luthor(Earth-2) and
Ultraman(Earth-3).
Lastly Alan More did a story in another annual that featured Mongul
using the black mercy plant to overcome Superman on his birthday in his
Fortress of Solitude, while WonderWoman,Batman and Robin(Jason Todd) had
to figure a way to save him and themselves.
All three stories are of course,pre-COIE.
Bruce Grubb
"Sean MacDonald" <tha...@netscape.com> wrote:
> The two-part "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow" by Alan Moore.
> Yeah, that was about 20 years ago, but I would still say that's the
> last *great* Superman story.
While it was a fun story it violated about every concept about Mxyzptlk
there was. Mxyzptlk came form a society that considered being a prankster
an artform so why would he go "evil'? Never mind NONE of the claims or
actions made by the WHTTMoT Mxyzptlk made sence but they would make sense
if they were in fact made by his totally insane cousin Nzykmulk.
<http://superman.ws/tales3/imp/?page=13>
Chenry
> Lastly Alan More did a story in another annual that featured Mongul
> using the black mercy plant to overcome Superman on his birthday in his
> Fortress of Solitude, while WonderWoman,Batman and Robin(Jason Todd) had
> to figure a way to save him and themselves.
> All three stories are of course,pre-COIE.
I always loved that story. And it got a second life as an adaptation
on the Justice League cartooon, no?
George Alexander Jr.
Everything".It had all the main players in it except,Robin.Which was
probably due to the Bat-embargo the suits had going on which basically
made it impossible for anyone from the Bat-books other than Batman to
appear on JLU.That's why you didn't see anymore eps with Joker or any of
the other Bat-villains when they did the new Legion of Doom.They didn't
want any confusion or focus taken away from the new The Batman animated
series.They had a similar embargo for Aquaman which is why the writers
created Devil Ray as a Black Manta replacement.
Dwayne McDuffie said they'd wanted to do an ep featuring DC''s Big
Three and that Alan Moore's story was perfect for it.
mart...@umn.edu
"Sean MacDonald" <tha...@netscape.com> wrote:
> The two-part "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow" by Alan Moore.
> Yeah, that was about 20 years ago, but I would still say that's the
> last *great* Superman story.
Whereas I have always this story to be the most over-rated comics story
ever. It was boring at the time and even more so now! i don't even
recommend that anyone read it.
We are going to be in different camps. I enjoyed very much the reboot
up to the spectacle of Panic in the Sky. The death and return
storylines were enjoyable enough, but there hasn't been much of a wow
story since then.
B. Martin
Magnus, Robot Fighter.
wrote:
I liked him in the end part of Armageddon:2001. The Schwartz tribute
issue was nice too.
Magnus, Robot Fighter
"Burn"
For even older school:
Superboy has some nice moments in LOSH when he takes on Pulsar
Stargrave and Nemesis Kid. And when he thinks he's dying he spends
part of his last day alive walking around Smallville shaking peoples
hands and saying hi.
heartbreak1980
I have to agree with an above poster, Up, Up, and Away was a
remarkable story. One of the best in years! Of course in my opinion,
Geoff Johns is comic book gold. Everything he touches turns gold. The
Midas of comics.