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Now, how could I resist a string with a title like this?!

*blush*

In article <Pine.A32.3.91.960116...@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu>,
Jim Smith <jasm...@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:

> From MAN OF STEEL ANNUAL #3...
>
> Batman: Phil, your gun's not even loaded.
>
> Phil: Wha--? But I was sure I just--
>
> THWACK!
>
>
> HAR HAR HAR! You the man, Priest!


WE da man, MD Bright and me. He may have written that line. Doc and I work
in a very organic fashion, and have a blast working together. DIDJA READ
THAT, EDITORS?!? Bright and Me-- we'll take whatever ya got. Transformers!
Brother Voodoo!! We don't care!!

It's like everybody got together and decided to keep us from working
together. Thanks to Mike Carlin for giving us that opportunity on the MOS
annual.

> Jim "Also never figured he learn why the author of that book only had one
> name..." Smith

It's because DC received a "cease and decist" letter from Christopher
Priest, demanding I stop using his name as my pseudonym. This is a true
story.

FTR-- there are three Christopher Priests in the Colorado Springs phone
book. Now, Colorado Springs is about the size of a thimball. You do the
math.

In any case, just "Priest" is fine.

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Paranoia is merely knowing the truth.

Jim Smith

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From MAN OF STEEL ANNUAL #3...

Batman: Phil, your gun's not even loaded.

Phil: Wha--? But I was sure I just--

THWACK!


HAR HAR HAR! You the man, Priest!

'Course, I would've brought that up sooner, but I didn't know I'd need to
remember it a year and a half later when I met the guy who wrote it...

cz...@vnet.ibm.com

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In <cll24j90-160...@slip8123.rmii.com>, cll2...@rmii.com (Priest) writes:
>
>WE da man, MD Bright and me. He may have written that line. Doc and I work
>in a very organic fashion, and have a blast working together. DIDJA READ
>THAT, EDITORS?!? Bright and Me-- we'll take whatever ya got. Transformers!
>Brother Voodoo!! We don't care!!
>
Wasn't there a running joke about you doing Bro. Voodoo? Arrrgggh!! Can't
remember what it was...

My fave line was from the "Death of Phoenix" parody in Cracked, over 12 years
ago. "Excuse me while I go pick my nose, off-panel like"

Brian


Jim Smith

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On 16 Jan 1996, Priest wrote:

> Now, how could I resist a string with a title like this?!
>
> *blush*

That was the plan. There I was, drawing Batman looking down a smoking
gun, when I remembered that spiffoid line, and I realized I didn't spenmd
enough time with my Priest...

> Jim Smith <jasm...@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
> > HAR HAR HAR! You the man, Priest!
>
>

> WE da man, MD Bright and me. He may have written that line. Doc and I work
> in a very organic fashion, and have a blast working together.

Okey-dokey. Bright rules as well.

DIDJA READ
> THAT, EDITORS?!? Bright and Me-- we'll take whatever ya got. Transformers!
> Brother Voodoo!! We don't care!!

Methinks you are dissing the TFs by saying you would do anything to do
with MD. Don't make me muss youse up, pal...

> It's like everybody got together and decided to keep us from working
> together. Thanks to Mike Carlin for giving us that opportunity on the MOS
> annual.

I have to admit I was worried when it came out. Not only have I never
heard of the guy, I thought, he calls himself "Priest". Keep in mind
that "Prince" is a weirdo and Garth Ennis's "Preacher" is a wacko. I'm
mighty wary of these one-name guys...

> > Jim "Also never figured he learn why the author of that book only had one
> > name..." Smith
>

> It's because DC received a "cease and decist" letter from Christopher
> Priest, demanding I stop using his name as my pseudonym. This is a true
> story.

Boy, I'm glad no one's called me on such a claim...

> FTR-- there are three Christopher Priests in the Colorado Springs phone
> book. Now, Colorado Springs is about the size of a thimball. You do the
> math.

Feh. We Jim Smiths are conquering Earth. I'd like to see all the
Christopher Priests even take a continent...

Jim Smith No. 2485868356

Priest

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In article <Pine.Sola.3.91.96011...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>,
Jim Smith <jasm...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:

> Methinks you are dissing the TFs by saying you would do anything to do
> with MD. Don't make me muss youse up, pal...

I used to edit the book. and one of the more famous issues is #5, which
sported a painted cover of Megatron by Doc. It was #5 in a Four-issue
Limited Series. A lkong story. and it had a wonderful Honeymooners splash
by Alan Kupperberg.

My favorite ish was one written by Peter David, "The Love Bug," drawn by
William Johnson and inked by Kyle Baker. It was *gorgeous* and *sooo*
funny.

I would never dis the TF. It was one of my favorite projects.

Priest

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> Wasn't there a running joke about you doing Bro. Voodoo? Arrrgggh!! Can't
> remember what it was...

I'd sure love to hear it! I've been kicking BV for *years*. Remember,
when he went into action, there was the sound of drums---

DUM DUMM DUMM DUM DUMMM DUM DUMM!!

I believe it was an in-joke.

Alan Sepinwall

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In article <cll24j90-160...@slip8114.rmii.com>,

Priest <cll2...@rmii.com> wrote:
>In article <4dgp9k$s...@bocanews.bocaraton.ibm.com>, cz...@vnet.ibm.com wrote:
>
>> Wasn't there a running joke about you doing Bro. Voodoo? Arrrgggh!! Can't
>> remember what it was...
>
>I'd sure love to hear it! I've been kicking BV for *years*. Remember,
>when he went into action, there was the sound of drums---
>
>DUM DUMM DUMM DUM DUMMM DUM DUMM!!
>
>I believe it was an in-joke.
>
Well, Doc got to draw his own riff on BV in Icon #31 or so (the funeral of
Buck Wild), and one of the characters commented that they couldn't hear
anything the Brother Voodoo-ish character was saying because the drums
were too loud. :-)

Alan Sepinwall * e-mail: sepi...@mail.sas.upenn.edu
Personal homepage: http://force.stwing.upenn.edu:8001/~sepinwal/
NYPD Blue page: http://force.stwing.upenn.edu:8001/~sepinwal/nypd.html

RANDOM QUOTE:

"I'm not afraid to die - I just don't want to be there when it happens."
-Woody Allen


cz...@vnet.ibm.com

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In <cll24j90-160...@slip8114.rmii.com>, cll2...@rmii.com (Priest) writes:
>In article <4dgp9k$s...@bocanews.bocaraton.ibm.com>, cz...@vnet.ibm.com wrote:
>
>> Wasn't there a running joke about you doing Bro. Voodoo? Arrrgggh!! Can't
>> remember what it was...
>
>I'd sure love to hear it! I've been kicking BV for *years*. Remember,
>when he went into action, there was the sound of drums---
>
>DUM DUMM DUMM DUM DUMMM DUM DUMM!!
>
>I believe it was an in-joke.
>

Memory...slowly...coming...back.
It may have been that all humor What If (vol 1, #34?). Bro. Voodoo trying
to get his own book?

Of course, I loved the "What If: the Silver Surfer fought Wendigo in the
middle of a snowstorm? (etc)." Was that one of yours?
I'm gonna have to find that issue....

Brian


Chris Schmitt

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Priest (cll2...@rmii.com) wrote:
: In article <Pine.Sola.3.91.96011...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>,
: Jim Smith <jasm...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:

: > Methinks you are dissing the TFs by saying you would do anything to do
: > with MD. Don't make me muss youse up, pal...

: I used to edit the book. and one of the more famous issues is #5, which
: sported a painted cover of Megatron by Doc. It was #5 in a Four-issue
: Limited Series. A lkong story. and it had a wonderful Honeymooners splash
: by Alan Kupperberg.

If this about the Transformers series (TF?), the decepticon on the
cover was Soundwave. It was a very lovely cover. Loved the "All are dead"
writing on the background.

That issue and the following dinobots sotry arc fueled the Marvel
comic for 40 or so issues of so-so storytelling.

: My favorite ish was one written by Peter David, "The Love Bug," drawn by


: William Johnson and inked by Kyle Baker. It was *gorgeous* and *sooo*
: funny.

Don't remember that one off hand. But, I bet I still have it
somewheres.

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Don Brinker

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Priest (cll2...@rmii.com) wrote:
: I ran into some creative differences with the writer, which was awkward
: because he and I were friends. I just wanted smaller, more focused stories
: showcasing a few robots at a time. While the writer wanted The Big
: Picture. Both directions were valid, but we were clearly at odds. So,
: somewhere around issue eight or nine I traded projects with another
: editor, so my writer would have an easier time of it.

Now THAT is a classy way for an editor to handle things. If more of the eds
in Marvel and DC acted that way, a lot of books might be in better shape
than they are now.

Seems like these days the average editor would just can the writer, cancel any
other books he/she was working on, and have their family hunted down...

- Don

Priest

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> >DUM DUMM DUMM DUM DUMMM DUM DUMM!!

> >I believe it was an in-joke.

> Memory...slowly...coming...back.
> It may have been that all humor What If (vol 1, #34?). Bro. Voodoo trying
> to get his own book?

No, that was actually *in* his own book. That was his trademark.

> Of course, I loved the "What If: the Silver Surfer fought Wendigo in the
> middle of a snowstorm? (etc)." Was that one of yours?

Nope. Ron Zalme, I believe. I've never done a single issue of What If?,
although I was invited to only two months before the editor was
furloughed. :-(

Jim Smith

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On 17 Jan 1996, Priest wrote:

> In article <4dhr6a$h...@news.fsu.edu>, csch...@taylor.math.fsu.edu (Chris


> Schmitt) wrote:
>
> > If this about the Transformers series (TF?), the decepticon on the
> > cover was Soundwave. It was a very lovely cover. Loved the "All are dead"
> > writing on the background.
>

> Soundwave--?
>
> *thinks about it*
>
> Hang on a sec--
>
> *looks it up in his copy*
>
> Oh, hell. Megatron was the GOOD guy, wasn't he?

Um...not that I read the series (yeah right, like Mom'll drive me to the
storeevery month with the money...), but Megatron was always the
Decepticon leader in the cartoon (until...later...)

> The Decepticon on the cover was SHOCKWAVE.

Now, Shockwave (one-eyed cool dude) or SOUNDwave (weird-voiced cool dude)?

> Egads, but I'm dumb!!!

Preist, unless you actually BOUGHT all those little toys and WATCHED
every blamed episode of the cartoon, I don't expect you to know all this
stuff ten years later (where does the time go...?) Hell, even I can't
remember the names of the Headmaster's heads anymore...

Jim "Lesse...Gort...um...." Smith

sheelba of the eyeless face

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On 16 Jan 1996, Priest wrote:

>
> My favorite ish was one written by Peter David, "The Love Bug," drawn by
> William Johnson and inked by Kyle Baker. It was *gorgeous* and *sooo*
> funny.
>

> I would never dis the TF. It was one of my favorite projects.
>

"The Love Bug" ?

I can't think of any TF stories with that title...
maybe you mean issue #16, "Plight of the Bumblebee"?

and written by *Peter David*?!?
I'm really going to have to check my back issues on that one...
though it would explain the inconsistencies between that issue and the
previous one. hmm...


sheelba of the hole-filled memory.

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Johanna Draper

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In article <DLC6y...@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
Jason Fliegel <jb...@darwin.clas.Virginia.EDU> wrote:
>whose idea was the Spiderman crossover in issue #3? Now THAT has to be
>the wierdest crossover I can think of.

Nah, I'd vote for Superman and the Zoo Crew.

Johanna

Priest

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In article <DLC6y...@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
jb...@darwin.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jason Fliegel) wrote:

> So how long were you involved with the book? And whose idea was the


> Spiderman crossover in issue #3? Now THAT has to be the wierdest
> crossover I can think of.

Oh my... I don't remember. Might have been my idea, but I really don;t
remember. All I know is I was promoted to editor at Marvel and handed this
limited series. Then one day, Mike Hobson (then Marvel's VP Publishing)
appeared at my door (an easy trick-- his office was next door), grinning
and asking for issue #5.

"#5, Mike? But it's a four-issue miniseries," I said.

Mike grinned, "Not anymore."

The TF was a big hit early on for Marvel. The toys were hot.

I ran into some creative differences with the writer, which was awkward
because he and I were friends. I just wanted smaller, more focused stories
showcasing a few robots at a time. While the writer wanted The Big
Picture. Both directions were valid, but we were clearly at odds. So,
somewhere around issue eight or nine I traded projects with another
editor, so my writer would have an easier time of it.

Sorry to be so hazy. Haven't thought about the TF in years...

fredrick b. chary

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The Delightful Johanna Draper <sg94...@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu> wrote:
>In article <DLC6y...@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
>Jason Fliegel <jb...@darwin.clas.Virginia.EDU> wrote:
>>whose idea was the Spiderman crossover in issue #3? Now THAT has to be
>>the wierdest crossover I can think of.
>
>Nah, I'd vote for Superman and the Zoo Crew.

I'll have to go for Cary Bates killing the JLA and JSA :)

Mike, using Fred's account.


Priest

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In article <4dhr6a$h...@news.fsu.edu>, csch...@taylor.math.fsu.edu (Chris
Schmitt) wrote:

> If this about the Transformers series (TF?), the decepticon on the
> cover was Soundwave. It was a very lovely cover. Loved the "All are dead"
> writing on the background.

Soundwave--?

*thinks about it*

Hang on a sec--

*looks it up in his copy*

Oh, hell. Megatron was the GOOD guy, wasn't he?

The Decepticon on the cover was SHOCKWAVE.

Egads, but I'm dumb!!!


> That issue and the following dinobots sotry arc fueled the Marvel
> comic for 40 or so issues of so-so storytelling.

*ducks*

Heh heh-- I relinquished editorial control after issue 8 or so due to
creative differences with the writer. Rather than remove him (a friend of
mine, actually), I found another editor who was willing to swap projects
with me.

> : My favorite ish was one written by Peter David, "The Love Bug," drawn by


> : William Johnson and inked by Kyle Baker. It was *gorgeous* and *sooo*
> : funny.
>

> Don't remember that one off hand. But, I bet I still have it
> somewheres.

It was, IMHO, probably the best TF issue I've read. I thought it was
*hilarious*. PAD at his silly best.

Hey-- remember when he was Peter Who--? and had to do stuff like this!

Priest

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In article <Pine.A32.3.91.960117...@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu>,
Jim Smith <jasm...@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:

> > Oh, hell. Megatron was the GOOD guy, wasn't he?

> Um...not that I read the series (yeah right, like Mom'll drive me to the
> storeevery month with the money...), but Megatron was always the
> Decepticon leader in the cartoon (until...later...)

*checks his issue again*

Dammit.

You're right.


> > The Decepticon on the cover was SHOCKWAVE.

> Now, Shockwave (one-eyed cool dude) or SOUNDwave (weird-voiced cool dude)?

*checks again just to be sure*

Shock. One eye. GREAT painting by MD Bright, BTW. Wonder if he ever sold it--?


> > Egads, but I'm dumb!!!

> Preist, unless you actually BOUGHT all those little toys and WATCHED
> every blamed episode of the cartoon, I don't expect you to know all this
> stuff ten years later (where does the time go...?) Hell, even I can't
> remember the names of the Headmaster's heads anymore...

I dunno-- I edited the series. I should remember at least the big guns
(pun intended). Getting old now... almost halfway through my thirties.

Chris Schmitt

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Priest (cll2...@rmii.com) wrote:
: In article <4dhr6a$h...@news.fsu.edu>, csch...@taylor.math.fsu.edu (Chris
: Schmitt) wrote:

: > If this about the Transformers series (TF?), the decepticon on the
: > cover was Soundwave. It was a very lovely cover. Loved the "All are dead"
: > writing on the background.

: Soundwave--?

: *thinks about it*

: Hang on a sec--

: *looks it up in his copy*

: Oh, hell. Megatron was the GOOD guy, wasn't he?

Is this a trick question? Am I on Double Dare? No, Megatron was not a
good guy.

: The Decepticon on the cover was SHOCKWAVE.

: Egads, but I'm dumb!!!

Yeah. Now I recall. I owned SOUNDWAVE. I secretly desired SOUNDWAVE, tho.
Sorry for the confusion.


: > That issue and the following dinobots sotry arc fueled the Marvel


: > comic for 40 or so issues of so-so storytelling.

: *ducks*

: Heh heh-- I relinquished editorial control after issue 8 or so due to
: creative differences with the writer. Rather than remove him (a friend of
: mine, actually), I found another editor who was willing to swap projects
: with me.

Well, I'm sure if you stuck aroundm Transformers would have still been
a kick butt series.

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Dave Van Domelen

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In article <cll24j90-170...@slip8121.rmii.com>,

Priest <cll2...@rmii.com> wrote:
>In article <4dhr6a$h...@news.fsu.edu>, csch...@taylor.math.fsu.edu (Chris
>Schmitt) wrote:
>> If this about the Transformers series (TF?), the decepticon on the
>> cover was Soundwave. It was a very lovely cover. Loved the "All are dead"
>> writing on the background.
>Soundwave--?
>*thinks about it*
>Hang on a sec--
>*looks it up in his copy*
>Oh, hell. Megatron was the GOOD guy, wasn't he?

Well, that's what some of my friends say, yes.


>
>The Decepticon on the cover was SHOCKWAVE.

Damn straight. And that was Doc's work? Keen. BTW, for anyone without a
copy of #5 (and no one has an excuse, it had a really high print run), there's
a full-size scanned image of the cover on one of the TF image sites out there.
Just point your web browser at http://www.canit.se/~optimus and you should be
able to find a link to it on that page somehere.

>> That issue and the following dinobots sotry arc fueled the Marvel
>> comic for 40 or so issues of so-so storytelling.
>
>*ducks*
>
>Heh heh-- I relinquished editorial control after issue 8 or so due to
>creative differences with the writer. Rather than remove him (a friend of
>mine, actually), I found another editor who was willing to swap projects
>with me.

You mean, if you'd stuck to your guns, we'd have been spared the Car Wash
of Doom?


>
>> : My favorite ish was one written by Peter David, "The Love Bug," drawn by
>> : William Johnson and inked by Kyle Baker. It was *gorgeous* and *sooo*
>> : funny.
>> Don't remember that one off hand. But, I bet I still have it
>> somewheres.
>It was, IMHO, probably the best TF issue I've read. I thought it was
>*hilarious*. PAD at his silly best.
>Hey-- remember when he was Peter Who--? and had to do stuff like this!

Damn, what issue number was that? I'll have to go diving though my
recently-purchased complete set to check that out.

Dave Van Domelen, crossposted this to alt.toys.transformers now that the
topic has drifted sufficiently....

Jason Fliegel

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In article <cll24j90-160...@slip8114.rmii.com>,

Priest <cll2...@rmii.com> wrote:
>In article <Pine.Sola.3.91.96011...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>,
>Jim Smith <jasm...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
>> Methinks you are dissing the TFs by saying you would do anything to do
>> with MD. Don't make me muss youse up, pal...
>
>I used to edit the book. and one of the more famous issues is #5, which
>sported a painted cover of Megatron by Doc.

Shockwave, not Megatron. "The Transformers . . . are all dead," if I
remember correctly.

It was #5 in a Four-issue
>Limited Series. A lkong story. and it had a wonderful Honeymooners splash
>by Alan Kupperberg.
>

>My favorite ish was one written by Peter David, "The Love Bug," drawn by
>William Johnson and inked by Kyle Baker. It was *gorgeous* and *sooo*
>funny.
>

>I would never dis the TF. It was one of my favorite projects.
>

Mine too. The first comic I ever bought was Transformers #9, with
Circuit Breaker. Is tuck with the comic all the way through to the end
of the run. It had its high points and its low points. I thought it
really improved when they brought over the team from the Brittish book.

So how long were you involved with the book? And whose idea was the


Spiderman crossover in issue #3? Now THAT has to be the wierdest
crossover I can think of.

--
Jason Fliegel * The other day, I got out a can
(804) 243-1959 * opener, and I was opening this
e-mail: jb...@virginia.edu * can of worms when I thought,
http://darwin.clas.virginia.edu/~jbf9a * "What am I doing!?!"

Colonel Calamity

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On 17 Jan 1996, Johanna Draper wrote:

> Jason Fliegel <jb...@darwin.clas.Virginia.EDU> wrote:
> >whose idea was the Spiderman crossover in issue #3? Now THAT has to be
> >the wierdest crossover I can think of.
>

> Nah, I'd vote for Superman and the Zoo Crew.

Already been done, Johanna. Check the preview for Cap'n Carrot #1 in
....what? DC Presents? I think so. It had Supey and the team vs. Starro.

Now, Batman and Ambush Bug, _There's_ a crossover....

Colonel Calamity & Talon #1, coming soon.....no, not really :)

Michael A. Chary

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Priest says:
>In article <dbrinkerD...@netcom.com>, dbri...@netcom.com (Don
>Brinker) wrote:
>
>Mark Beachum, notorious gangsta deadline breaker, had a standing deal with
>me: I NEVER gave him anything on a schedule because I knew it'd bring us
>into conflict. But I guaranteed he'd always have work. When he turned in
>Job A, I'd hand him another script. When he turned that one in, I'd hand
>him another.
>
>This way, Mark worked at his own pace, instead of getting kicked by me for
>being late. Of course he'd be late! He's Mark Beachum!! But, damn, that
>man can draw!!

We just won't tell Johanna Draper that you're responsible for keeping Mark
Beachum employed. (If you can arrange it though, I want to see him do the
next Oracle/Black Canary/Catwoman series :))

>In the case of the Transformers, there was *nothing* wrong with the guy's
>writing, except it wasn't the direction I wanted. He was more than willing
>to bend to my will, but he was clearly *bending,* an uncomfortable
>situation for both of us. This was (and is, he's not dead!) a guy I
>admired and respected, and I didn't want him to get burned simply because
>I say to-MAY-to, and he says to-MAH-to.

Priest, unless he changed his name too, you can tell us. I mean, it's not
like we can't check the credits of our old transformers :)
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Robert A. Jung

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>>>>My favorite ish was one written by Peter David, "The Love Bug," drawn by
>>>>William Johnson and inked by Kyle Baker. It was *gorgeous* and *sooo*
>>>>funny.
>>>
>>> Don't remember that one off hand. But, I bet I still have it
>>> somewheres.
>>
>>It was, IMHO, probably the best TF issue I've read. I thought it was
>>*hilarious*. PAD at his silly best.
>
> Damn, what issue number was that? I'll have to go diving though my
>recently-purchased complete set to check that out.

WHAT???

Peter A. David wrote an issue of TRANSFORMERS?

And William Johnson DREW it???

D*MN!

I've GOT to get a copy of this...

--R.J.
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Priest

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In article <Pine.PMDF.3.91.96011...@NESSIE.CC.WWU.EDU>,

sheelba of the eyeless face <944...@NESSIE.CC.WWU.EDU> wrote:

> "The Love Bug" ?

> I can't think of any TF stories with that title...
> maybe you mean issue #16, "Plight of the Bumblebee"?

Yeah-- yeah I think that's it. It was the Transformer that turned into a
Volkswagen.

> and written by *Peter David*?!?

You betcha. And funny as hell.

> I'm really going to have to check my back issues on that one...
> though it would explain the inconsistencies between that issue and the
> previous one. hmm...

It was originally scheduled for, like, #9 or so, but was knocked into
inventory because the penciller, William Johnson, was slooooowwwwwww!
Actually-- now that I think about it-- Kyle might not have inked that one.
I think he did, though. Let me know if you find it.

Johanna Draper

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In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.96011...@Isis.MsState.Edu>,

Colonel Calamity <rr...@Isis.MsState.Edu> wrote:
>On 17 Jan 1996, Johanna Draper wrote:
>> Jason Fliegel <jb...@darwin.clas.Virginia.EDU> wrote:
>> >whose idea was the Spiderman crossover in issue #3? Now THAT has to be
>> >the wierdest crossover I can think of.
>>
>> Nah, I'd vote for Superman and the Zoo Crew.
>
>Already been done, Johanna.

That was the point: weirdest crossover we'd seen in comics.

Johanna

Dave Van Domelen

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In article <rjungDL...@netcom.com>,
Robert A. Jung <rj...@netcom.com> wrote:
[others who Robert clipped the attribs on include me and Christopher Priest]

>>>>>My favorite ish was one written by Peter David, "The Love Bug," drawn by
>>>>>William Johnson and inked by Kyle Baker. It was *gorgeous* and *sooo*
>>>>>funny.
>>>> Don't remember that one off hand. But, I bet I still have it
>>>> somewheres.
>>>It was, IMHO, probably the best TF issue I've read. I thought it was
>>>*hilarious*. PAD at his silly best.
>> Damn, what issue number was that? I'll have to go diving though my
>>recently-purchased complete set to check that out.
> WHAT???
> Peter A. David wrote an issue of TRANSFORMERS?
> And William Johnson DREW it???
> D*MN!
> I've GOT to get a copy of this...

Turns out that it didn't actually make it into print. I found the issue
Priest remembers PAD and Johnson doing, which ended up as #16, "Plight of the
Bumblebee." Unfortunately, by the time #16 was out, there was a whole new
batch of toys that needed inclusion, so the old inventory version had gone
"stale." So Len Kaminski rewrote it and someone other than Johnson redrew it
to include people like Jetfire.
Dave Van Domelen, was all set to do a Rant Special on this, too...

Jerry L Franke

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Colonel Calamity (rr...@Isis.MsState.Edu) wrote:


> On 17 Jan 1996, Johanna Draper wrote:

> > Jason Fliegel <jb...@darwin.clas.Virginia.EDU> wrote:
> > >whose idea was the Spiderman crossover in issue #3? Now THAT has to be
> > >the wierdest crossover I can think of.
> >
> > Nah, I'd vote for Superman and the Zoo Crew.

> Already been done, Johanna. Check the preview for Cap'n Carrot #1 in

> ....what? DC Presents? I think so. It had Supey and the team vs. Starro.

They were looking for crossovers that had been done.

> Now, Batman and Ambush Bug, _There's_ a crossover....

Actually, this happened to a certain extent, too. I believe AB ran into
Bats is what, an issue of Action? Though it was more of a cameo, really...

--

Jerry L. Franke fra...@cs.indiana.edu
Computer Science Dept. Indiana University
formerly from Florida State University http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~franke

Max Chittister

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You all are going to make me go out and buy these back issues, aren't you?

As if reading rac hasn't gotten me hooked on enough books already :-)

Max
who's gonna watch Transformers: the Movie this afternoon

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Michael A. Chary

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Johanna Draper (dan...@aurora.cis.upenn.edu) writes:
> In article <4dmlon$4...@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu>,

> Michael A. Chary <ma...@po.CWRU.Edu> wrote:
>>We just won't tell Johanna Draper that you're responsible for keeping Mark
>>Beachum employed.
>
> Why would I care, i.e. who's Mark Beachum?

Mark Beachum is one of the fathers of the "good girl" art trend which you
so adore. I particularly remember the Christmas issue of PAD's Peter
Parker he did, which was *not* mild by today's standards :)

The only thing saving it from the code was the colorist :)

--
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Scott Hollifield

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Colonel Calamity (rr...@Isis.MsState.Edu) wrote:
: On 17 Jan 1996, Johanna Draper wrote:
: > Nah, I'd vote for Superman and the Zoo Crew.

: Already been done, Johanna. Check the preview for Cap'n Carrot #1 in
: ....what? DC Presents? I think so. It had Supey and the team vs. Starro.

: Now, Batman and Ambush Bug, _There's_ a crossover....

Ahem... Action Comics #565. ("Hey, Bats! If don't want to guest-star in
my book, can I join the Outsiders?" )


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/ And Krypto was his name-oh!..." -- _Ambush Bug_ #3
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ma...@imap1.asu.edu

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Marc sez:

: WE da man, MD Bright and me. He may have written that line. Doc and I work
: in a very organic fashion, and have a blast working together. DIDJA READ
: THAT, EDITORS?!? Bright and Me-- we'll take whatever ya got. Transformers!
: Brother Voodoo!! We don't care!!

This would be a must buy. Some of my favorite comics ever have been
produced by these two fellows, particularly Pm/If #123 and the
Spidey/Wolverine crossover. I'm now a Ray convert; any chance Doc can
give us a guest pencilling?

: > Jim "Also never figured he learn why the author of that book only had one
: > name..." Smith

: It's because DC received a "cease and decist" letter from Christopher
: Priest, demanding I stop using his name as my pseudonym. This is a true
: story.

: FTR-- there are three Christopher Priests in the Colorado Springs phone
: book. Now, Colorado Springs is about the size of a thimball. You do the
: math.

: In any case, just "Priest" is fine.

Now, this worries me. The last entertainer who went by a one word "p"
name started dancing and showing his bare rear end on MTV, then just
changed it to a symbol. Please, Priest, don't let it happen to you :)

Although, I do wonder what your symbol would be.....

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Jim Smith

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On 19 Jan 1996 ma...@imap1.asu.edu wrote:

> : In any case, just "Priest" is fine.
>
> Now, this worries me. The last entertainer who went by a one word "p"
> name started dancing and showing his bare rear end on MTV, then just
> changed it to a symbol. Please, Priest, don't let it happen to you :)

Actually, I think I'd enjoy this thoroughly. Go for it, Priest!

Jim "Anxiously awaiting the live dnacing girls making out to Priest's
next hit" Smith

William S. Kartalopoulos

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In article <cll24j90-160...@slip8114.rmii.com>
cll2...@rmii.com (Priest) writes:

> I used to edit the book. and one of the more famous issues is #5, which
> sported a painted cover of Megatron by Doc

Shockwave, Priest, Shockwave.

I spent my formative years filling my head with useless information
like this...

--Bill-i-con.


Dave Van Domelen

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In article <cll24j90-190...@slip8133.rmii.com>,
Priest <cll2...@rmii.com> wrote:
>In article <4dmlon$4...@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ma...@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael

>A. Chary) wrote:
>> We just won't tell Johanna Draper that you're responsible for keeping Mark
>> Beachum employed. (If you can arrange it though, I want to see him do the
>> next Oracle/Black Canary/Catwoman series :))
>Fat chance. Mark never really likes super-hero comics. He did 'em to pay
>the rent between dancing gigs (he's a professional dancer). He's now a
>regular contributor to Penthouse.

This explains much about how he found all those women with impossibly long
legs to pose for his art. In an era before Image, Beachum's women had the
longest legs in comics, and for a time I thought he was exaggerating. Then I
found a copy of his Razmataz series which had an ad for photos of Mark's
models. And they had legs *exactly* as long as he draws them. And I suppose
as a dancer, he's in a great position to find leggy women.
BTW, Beachum draws for Penthouse Comix, not Penthouse Magazine. "He's now
a regular contributor to Penthouse" makes it sound like he spends his time
writing Penthouse Letters. }->
Dave Van Domelen, wouldn't wanna be near Johanna or Elayne if they saw a
copy of Razmataz....

Todd VerBeek, GWM

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jar...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph T Arendt) writes:
>Matthew Sommer <ma...@earth.execpc.com> wrote:
>>Waid did such a good and purposeful job in impulse 11 to tell us who each
>>and every one of the speedsters involved was. Then i'm flipping through
>>flash 111, and all of a sudden, on the last page, this weird guy pops out
>>of the speed force rift... now, linda goes "Wally?"... so here i am, like
>>a fool, thinking this is some kind of strange mixing of wally and
>>savitar-- i mean dark hair, red flash suit, blue savy suit, etc... so i
>>flip the book closed and go "huh... what a strange twist of fate THAT was".
>>
>>so then i glance at the "next ish" column, and find out this is some guy
>>named john fox, and i'm supposed to read some back issue to find out who
>>he is, or wait till next issue... my question is-- shouldnt this have
>>been mentioned somewhere in the actual comic?

> I think Mark Waid was right not to explain the speedster and the next
>issue box should have been more obtuse.
>
> Doesn't matter for us net-readers. The secret of it being
>John Fox is certain to spill in here long before the next issue.
>Those who read Previews or some such thing had that surprise spoiled here on
>the net well before _Flash_ #111 even came out. However, for those who
>don't have such easy access to such spoiler information, it might be fun
>to remain mystified until next issue.

I agree. Jay, Jesse, Jenni, Jris, Jinda, Jart, and Jax are all standing
there scratching their heads with their jaws hanging on the floor. =They=
don't know who (or what) this guy in the Flash costume(s) is... why should
the reader?

> I'll bet the clever way the editor said to either get the back issue
>or wait until next month will sell a lot of back issues!

Glad I already have mine. <grin>

Cheers, Todd
"Absence makes the heart grow fungus" - Barenaked Ladies


cz...@vnet.ibm.com

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>>The last entertainer who went by a one word "p"
>> name started dancing and showing his bare rear end on MTV, then just
>> changed it to a symbol. Please, Priest, don't let it happen to you :)
>
>Too late. already working on finding an ascii character. :-)
>

Priest,

The first and second ascii characters are smiley faces ( ). I use them
in my source code comments occasionally.

Brian

Elmo Yojimbo

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cll2...@rmii.com (Priest) writes:
> ma...@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael A. Chary) wrote:
>> We just won't tell Johanna Draper that you're responsible for keeping Mark
>> Beachum employed. (If you can arrange it though, I want to see him do the
>> next Oracle/Black Canary/Catwoman series :))
>
> Fat chance. Mark never really likes super-hero comics. He did 'em to pay
> the rent between dancing gigs (he's a professional dancer). He's now a
> regular contributor to Penthouse.

...Comix. Penthouse *Comix*, Priest-me-lad. Slight difference in meaning
otherwise.

I find his strip unreadable, incidentally. Too stylized, not enough
storytelling.
--
"Let's stop driving! We must get out and jump up and down and up and down
and dance around and around!"--Delirium, _Sandman_ #45

elmo (mor...@physics.rice.edu,mor...@fnal.fnal.gov)

Michael A. Chary

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DVD says:
>Priest <cll2...@rmii.com> wrote:
>>In article <4dmlon$4...@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ma...@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael

>>A. Chary) wrote:
>>> We just won't tell Johanna Draper that you're responsible for keeping Mark
>>> Beachum employed. (If you can arrange it though, I want to see him do the
>>> next Oracle/Black Canary/Catwoman series :))
>>Fat chance. Mark never really likes super-hero comics. He did 'em to pay
>>the rent between dancing gigs (he's a professional dancer). He's now a
>>regular contributor to Penthouse.
>
> This explains much about how he found all those women with impossibly long
>legs to pose for his art. In an era before Image, Beachum's women had the
>longest legs in comics, and for a time I thought he was exaggerating. Then I
>found a copy of his Razmataz series which had an ad for photos of Mark's
>models. And they had legs *exactly* as long as he draws them. And I suppose
>as a dancer, he's in a great position to find leggy women.

Good lord, they are based on actual models? I have got get mark Beachum to
introduce me to his friends :)

> Dave Van Domelen, wouldn't wanna be near Johanna or Elayne if they saw a
>copy of Razmataz....

Who's the publisher on that? :):)

Michael A. Chary

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Priest wrote:
>A. Chary) wrote:
>
>> We just won't tell Johanna Draper that you're responsible for keeping Mark
>> Beachum employed. (If you can arrange it though, I want to see him do the
>> next Oracle/Black Canary/Catwoman series :))
>
>Fat chance. Mark never really likes super-hero comics. He did 'em to pay
>the rent between dancing gigs (he's a professional dancer). He's now a
>regular contributor to Penthouse.

I think you mean "Penthouse Comix"

Well, maybe we can blackmail him :)

Priest

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In article <4djda4$a...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,

dva...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen) wrote:

> You mean, if you'd stuck to your guns, we'd have been spared the Car Wash
> of Doom?

Can't promise that-- had Peter and I continued on the book, we would have
done all *kinds* of silly things.

Can't believe that PAD/William Johnson story never made it... grrrrr....

Johanna Draper

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In article <4dmlon$4...@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu>,

Michael A. Chary <ma...@po.CWRU.Edu> wrote:
>We just won't tell Johanna Draper that you're responsible for keeping Mark
>Beachum employed.

Why would I care, i.e. who's Mark Beachum?

Johanna

Augie De Blieck Jr

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Michael A. Chary (bf...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:

: Mark Beachum is one of the fathers of the "good girl" art trend which you


: so adore. I particularly remember the Christmas issue of PAD's Peter
: Parker he did, which was *not* mild by today's standards :)

: The only thing saving it from the code was the colorist :)

I knew that name sounded familiar. The issue of Spectacular Spider-Man
which PAD did that I picked up at the convention last weekend was drawn
by Beachum. And, yes, there's Joy Mercado's butt pointing out at me.
There she is with her legs quite a distance apart... YEESH But it looks
like PAD had some fun with it. In the issue (a really strange story
about a gang 'leader' names "Ace" - #5) Jean De Wolff comes out wearing a
dress, and everyone starts complimenting her on it. In retrospect now,
it's the funniest part of the issue.

-Augie
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Priest

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In article <4dneh9$d...@news.asu.edu>, ma...@imap1.asu.edu wrote:

> This would be a must buy. Some of my favorite comics ever have been
> produced by these two fellows, particularly Pm/If #123 and the
> Spidey/Wolverine crossover. I'm now a Ray convert; any chance Doc can
> give us a guest pencilling?

Doc was *offered* the *book,* Marc. When Howard moved on, Mark was our
first phone call. Regretably, his Icon commitment conflcited with our
timetable. And Jason is Mr. On Time, slavishly chaining himselfg to his
art noard. Not likely we'll need a fill-in for the forseeable future.

>The last entertainer who went by a one word "p"
> name started dancing and showing his bare rear end on MTV, then just
> changed it to a symbol. Please, Priest, don't let it happen to you :)

Too late. already working on finding an ascii character. :-)

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In article <1996Jan1...@fnalv.fnal.gov>, mor...@fnalv.fnal.gov (Elmo
Yojimbo) wrote:

> ...Comix. Penthouse *Comix*, Priest-me-lad. Slight difference in meaning
> otherwise.

Not that I would know... but...

Beachum is the regular featured comic artist in every issue of Penthouse
magazine.

Priest

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In article <cll24j90-190...@slip8133.rmii.com>,
cll2...@rmii.com (Priest) wrote:

> In article <4dm928$n...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,


> dva...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen) wrote:

> > Turns out that it didn't actually make it into print. I found
the issue
> > Priest remembers PAD and Johnson doing, which ended up as #16, "Plight
of the
> > Bumblebee." Unfortunately, by the time #16 was out, there was a whole new
> > batch of toys that needed inclusion, so the old inventory version had gone
> > "stale." So Len Kaminski rewrote it and someone other than Johnson
redrew it
> > to include people like Jetfire.
> > Dave Van Domelen, was all set to do a Rant Special on this, too...
>

> WHAT?!!!
>
> You're kidding, right--?!!
>
> *searches for Mike Carlin's home number*
>
> I'm gonna get to the bottom of this!!!! I'll check back here later after I
> talk to Carlin.


Heard from Mike today. THE OFFICIAL WORD:

Mike doesn't remember.

Augie De Blieck Jr

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Priest (cll2...@rmii.com) wrote:

: >The last entertainer who went by a one word "p"

: > name started dancing and showing his bare rear end on MTV, then just
: > changed it to a symbol. Please, Priest, don't let it happen to you :)

: Too late. already working on finding an ascii character. :-)

I, for one, look forward to calling you Octothorpe in the near-future,
Priest. =) [But it seems that Ampersand has already been taken.]

Robert A. Jung

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Jan 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/20/96
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In article <cll24j90-190...@slip8133.rmii.com> cll2...@rmii.com (Priest) writes:
>In article <4dm928$n...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, dva...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen) wrote:
>>In article <rjungDL...@netcom.com>, Robert A. Jung <rj...@netcom.com> wrote:
>>>WHAT???
>>>Peter A. David wrote an issue of TRANSFORMERS?
>>>And William Johnson DREW it???
>>>D*MN!
>>>I've GOT to get a copy of this...
>>
>> Turns out that it didn't actually make it into print. I found the issue
>>Priest remembers PAD and Johnson doing, which ended up as #16, "Plight of the
>>Bumblebee." Unfortunately, by the time #16 was out, there was a whole new
>>batch of toys that needed inclusion, so the old inventory version had gone
>>"stale." So Len Kaminski rewrote it and someone other than Johnson redrew it
>>to include people like Jetfire.
>
>WHAT?!!!

Yeah, what he said.

WHAT?!!!

>You're kidding, right--?!!

Really. Might as well slap a coat of primer on the Mona Lisa and spray-
paint it in day-glo neon colors.

>I'm gonna get to the bottom of this!!!! I'll check back here later after I
>talk to Carlin.

Please do! Or maybe there's an off-chance that Peter David will have a copy
of the script in his word processor...

Geez, this could be THE rarest piece of Transformers memorabilia yet, right
next to the Unicron prototype.

--R.J.,
PADophile *and* TransFan...

Johanna Draper

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In article <4dprf9$3...@news.nic.com>, Augie De Blieck Jr <au...@nic.com> wrote:
>I, for one, look forward to calling you Octothorpe in the near-future,
>Priest. =)

Have you been reading the Hacker's Dictionary, Augie?

Johanna
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Robert A. Jung (rj...@netcom.com) wrote:
: WHAT???

: Peter A. David wrote an issue of TRANSFORMERS?

: And William Johnson DREW it???

: D*MN!

: I've GOT to get a copy of this...

Huh? What? SAY WHAT?!? Really?!? The coolest comic writer in the biz penned
an issue of TFs? WHOA! Like the man said, what issue was this? Pre or post
Headmasters? What's goin on? You wanna clue us in PAD? Please?

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Michael R. Grabois

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On 16 Jan 1996 09:49:19 GMT, cll2...@rmii.com (Priest) wrote:

>In article <Pine.A32.3.91.960116...@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu>,
>Jim Smith <jasm...@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:

>> Jim "Also never figured he learn why the author of that book only had one
>> name..." Smith

>It's because DC received a "cease and decist" letter from Christopher
>Priest, demanding I stop using his name as my pseudonym. This is a true
>story.

>FTR-- there are three Christopher Priests in the Colorado Springs phone
>book. Now, Colorado Springs is about the size of a thimball. You do the
>math.

Was the C&D letter from one of the other Christopher Priests in
Colorado Springs, or is there another more famous one that I don't
know about? There's only one in the Houston phone book, by the way.

Michael R. Grabois | http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mgrabois
Houston, TX | or...@ix.netcom.com CI$: 74737,2600
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David Goldfarb

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Michael R. Grabois <or...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
)Was the C&D letter from one of the other Christopher Priests in
)Colorado Springs, or is there another more famous one that I don't
)know about?

A British science fiction writer. He's moderately well-known
in sf circles. In fact, I recall that when our Priest started using
the name, I wondered for a little time if it was him. (Although I
quickly concluded otherwise on stylistic grounds.) He wrote a polemic
against Harlan Ellison called _The Book on the Edge of Forever_ that
was published recently by Fantagraphics; that's about his only connection
to comics AFAIK.

David Goldfarb <*>|"I require three things in a man. He must be
gold...@ocf.berkeley.edu | handsome, ruthless, and stupid."
gold...@UCBOCF.BITNET |
gold...@csua.berkeley.edu | -- Dorothy Parker

Priest

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> Was the C&D letter from one of the other Christopher Priests in

> Colorado Springs, or is there another more famous one that I don't

> know about? There's only one in the Houston phone book, by the way.

I rest my case.

Iggy Drougge

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The_Great_Cornholio (Bea...@cris.com) wrote:

: Robert A. Jung (rj...@netcom.com) wrote:
: : WHAT???

: : Peter A. David wrote an issue of TRANSFORMERS?

: : And William Johnson DREW it???

: : D*MN!

: : I've GOT to get a copy of this...

: Huh? What? SAY WHAT?!? Really?!? The coolest comic writer in the biz penned
: an issue of TFs? WHOA! Like the man said, what issue was this? Pre or post
: Headmasters? What's goin on? You wanna clue us in PAD? Please?

PAD, PAD, PAD... Suddenly, I started to see this thread... What is this
about, and what is this mysterious PAD object? Paula Agnus Denise?
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Joseph T Arendt

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**


In article <DLLMu...@riker.neoucom.edu>,
Edgardo Rozenbom <eroz...@riker.neoucom.edu> wrote:
>Carl Fink (ca...@panix.com) wrote:
>: Superman/Muhammed Ali.
>
>What about the very recent Punisher/Archie x-over.
>
>That was pretty wierd.

I was amazed how good the Punisher/Archie crossover turned out
being. However, this is the DC newsgroup. Superman/Muhammed Ali
is a DC crossover so fits the requirements of the newsgroup much
better. :-)

Joe

Abhijit Khale

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Supergirl/Prez


Edgardo Rozenbom

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TheyC

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On 19 Jan 1996, Augie De Blieck Jr wrote:

> I knew that name sounded familiar. The issue of Spectacular Spider-Man
> which PAD did that I picked up at the convention last weekend was drawn
> by Beachum. And, yes, there's Joy Mercado's butt pointing out at me.
> There she is with her legs quite a distance apart... YEESH But it looks

I want this issue, dammit.

> like PAD had some fun with it. In the issue (a really strange story
> about a gang 'leader' names "Ace" - #5) Jean De Wolff comes out wearing a


The Michael Jackson guy! I LOVED him! That must have been the
first "Ace" issue, which was sequaled in the Annual of either that year
or the following one! Damn, I REALLY want it now!


Priest

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In article <Pine.A32.3.91.960123...@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu>,
TheyC <aa-...@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:

> On 19 Jan 1996, Augie De Blieck Jr wrote:
>
> > I knew that name sounded familiar. The issue of Spectacular Spider-Man
> > which PAD did that I picked up at the convention last weekend was drawn
> > by Beachum. And, yes, there's Joy Mercado's butt pointing out at me.
> > There she is with her legs quite a distance apart... YEESH But it looks
>
> I want this issue, dammit.

Alas, I've since been informed this issue never saw print. It was re-done
to feature toys that were currently available. William took so long to
draw it that the Bumblebee toy was either upgraded or replaced.

Alas, I didn't keep any copies of the original story. It was wonderful,
though. Very witty Peter script and *gorgeous* art by William Johnson.
FTR-- Johnson drew two or three TF issues (he was the regular penciller
until he told me he couldn't keep up with a monthly book), inked by Kyle
Baker. *Very* cool.

> > like PAD had some fun with it. In the issue (a really strange story
> > about a gang 'leader' names "Ace" - #5) Jean De Wolff comes out wearing a

> The Michael Jackson guy! I LOVED him! That must have been the
> first "Ace" issue, which was sequaled in the Annual of either that year
> or the following one! Damn, I REALLY want it now!

"Ace" was a PPTSSM annual (I don't recall issue #). The sequel, "Ace II"
was out the following year (1984 I think). Mark and I have wanted to do an
Ace special, but we were never in the same place at the same time.

FTR-- the character Ace was pretty much a self-portrait of Mark, only
toned down a little. Yes, I said toned down. It kind of answered the
question (as Mark in real life did): "What If Michael Jackson Looked
Masculine?"

Kirby Krueger

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In article <4e0q0j$g...@uno.canit.se>, Iggy Drougge <opt...@canit.se> wrote:
>The_Great_Cornholio (Bea...@cris.com) wrote:
>: Robert A. Jung (rj...@netcom.com) wrote:
>: : WHAT???
>
>: : Peter A. David wrote an issue of TRANSFORMERS?
>
>: : And William Johnson DREW it???
>
>: : D*MN!
>
>: : I've GOT to get a copy of this...
>
>: Huh? What? SAY WHAT?!? Really?!? The coolest comic writer in the biz penned
>: an issue of TFs? WHOA! Like the man said, what issue was this? Pre or post
>: Headmasters? What's goin on? You wanna clue us in PAD? Please?
>
>PAD, PAD, PAD... Suddenly, I started to see this thread... What is this
>about, and what is this mysterious PAD object? Paula Agnus Denise?
>--
PAD = Peter A. David. (What's the A stand for? Agamemmnon?)

He's the writer of the Hulk and Aquaman continuing series, Spiderman 2099
until the near future, this D.C. vs. Marvel thing, parts 2 and 4, many
well-recieved Star Trek novels, and apparantly at least one issue of the
Transformers. He's known for his witty dialogue more than anything else,
and tends to score points in the plot and characterization departments as
well. (A real shame about the 2099 line ending. Some very strong issues
of Spiderman recently.)

--
Kirby Krueger, kir...@peak.org
<*> "Most .sigs this small can't open their own jump gate."

Michael Payton

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TheyC (aa-...@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:


: While you're at it, get #51. JIM LEE (yes, THAT Jim Lee) cover.

Acually it was #53, but the story pretty much sucked (typical for post #20
Budiansky writing), but Jim Lee also did the cover to #67. A VASTLY
superior work by Simon Furman & Jose Delbo set in a possible (probable?)
future where Rodimus Prime was dead and only a handful of Autobots still
lived. A rather dark 'Days of Future Past' type story, but very well done.
But if you just want Lee's art I doubt it'd matter what the story was
about anyway? :)

Michael


Robert A. Jung

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In article <4e0q0j$g...@uno.canit.se> opt...@canit.se (Iggy Drougge) writes:
>PAD, PAD, PAD... Suddenly, I started to see this thread... What is this
>about, and what is this mysterious PAD object? Paula Agnus Denise?

PAD = Peter A. David, writer of stuff. One of my fave authors, who's done
everything from comic books (INCREDIBLE HULK, AQUAMAN, SOULSEARCHERS AND
COMPANY), television shows (BABYLON 5), novels (STAR TREK, STAR TREK: TNG,
DEEP SPACE 9, ALIEN NATION), movies (TRANCERS), and even a weekly column for
Comic Buyer's Guide. If you haven't read his work, you're missing out...

--R.J.

Trevor Barrie

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cll2...@rmii.com (Priest) wrote:


>In the case of the Transformers, there was *nothing* wrong with the guy's
>writing,

Well, there are quite a number of Transformer fans who'd disagree with
you on that one. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard from a TF fan
who would agree...


TheyC

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On 17 Jan 1996, Dave Van Domelen wrote:

> >> If this about the Transformers series (TF?), the decepticon on the
> >> cover was Soundwave. It was a very lovely cover. Loved the "All are dead"
> >> writing on the background.
> >Soundwave--?

No. SHOCKwave. Megatron's rival, and my favorite Decepticon.

If it weren't for GI Joe and Transformers, I wouldn't be here
today. I have every issue and read most of them several times.


TheyC

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On Fri, 19 Jan 1996, Michael A. Chary wrote:

> Mark Beachum is one of the fathers of the "good girl" art trend which you
> so adore. I particularly remember the Christmas issue of PAD's Peter
> Parker he did, which was *not* mild by today's standards :)
>
> The only thing saving it from the code was the colorist :)

Which issue was that? Sounds familiar.

TheyC

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On Thu, 18 Jan 1996, Robert A. Jung wrote:

> Peter A. David wrote an issue of TRANSFORMERS?
>
> And William Johnson DREW it???
>

> I've GOT to get a copy of this...

While you're at it, get #51. JIM LEE (yes, THAT Jim Lee) cover.

Scott Christensen

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fra...@ucs.indiana.edu (Jerry L Franke) wrote:

>Colonel Calamity (rr...@Isis.MsState.Edu) wrote:


>> On 17 Jan 1996, Johanna Draper wrote:

>> Now, Batman and Ambush Bug, _There's_ a crossover....

>Actually, this happened to a certain extent, too. I believe AB ran into
>Bats is what, an issue of Action? Though it was more of a cameo, really...

I remember this!! Batsie was working on one of the "hardest puzzles"
of his career. Turns out it was a crossword. He needed a nine letter
word for "lunatic." I'll bet you can guess who's name filled in the
blanks.

Scott C


TheyC

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On Sat, 20 Jan 1996, Robert A. Jung wrote:

> Please do! Or maybe there's an off-chance that Peter David will have a copy
> of the script in his word processor...
>
> Geez, this could be THE rarest piece of Transformers memorabilia yet, right
> next to the Unicron prototype.

If you get your hands on a copy, PLEASE let me know about it.

Priest

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In article <4e80dm$8...@neilson.cs.strath.ac.uk>, im...@cs.strath.ac.uk
(Iain McCord) wrote:

> >FTR-- the character Ace was pretty much a self-portrait of Mark.

> I thought he looked more like Prince (as he was known at that time).

Yes. and so did Mark.

Iain McCord

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In article <cll24j90-230...@slip8133.rmii.com>,

Priest <cll2...@rmii.com> wrote:
>FTR-- the character Ace was pretty much a self-portrait of Mark, only
>toned down a little. Yes, I said toned down. It kind of answered the
>question (as Mark in real life did): "What If Michael Jackson Looked
>Masculine?"

TheyC

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On 23 Jan 1996, Priest wrote:

> FTR-- the character Ace was pretty much a self-portrait of Mark, only
> toned down a little. Yes, I said toned down. It kind of answered the
> question (as Mark in real life did): "What If Michael Jackson Looked
> Masculine?"

Actually, another user brought to my attention that, with the
motorcycle, "Ace" was more similar to Prince, who DID have a perm at that
time, like MJ.

Still, I'm glad to hear YOU say he looked like MJ, as I always
thought he did. ;)

And finally, what "Mark" are we talking about here? Mark Beachum?

Priest

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In article <Pine.Sola.3.91.96013...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>,
TheyC <aa-...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:

> Actually, another user brought to my attention that, with the
> motorcycle, "Ace" was more similar to Prince, who DID have a perm at that
> time, like MJ.

> Still, I'm glad to hear YOU say he looked like MJ, as I always
> thought he did. ;)

He looked like Mark. He *was* Mark. Mark looks like a masculine Michael
Jackson. An MJ that could kick your ass. He's tall and lean with a
piercing gaze and funky hair. He *is* Ace.

> And finally, what "Mark" are we talking about here? Mark Beachum?

Yep.

KRACH, JOSHUA DALE

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>.
Which era's MJ? The one circa "Thriller?" "Bad?" "Dangerous?"
"Jackson 5's Greatest Hits?"

Josh K.
gre...@music.cc.uga.edu


TheyC

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On 1 Feb 1996, KRACH, JOSHUA DALE wrote:

> >> Still, I'm glad to hear YOU say he looked like MJ, as I always
> >> thought he did. ;)
> >
> >He looked like Mark. He *was* Mark. Mark looks like a masculine Michael
> >Jackson. An MJ that could kick your ass. He's tall and lean with a
> >piercing gaze and funky hair. He *is* Ace.

> Which era's MJ? The one circa "Thriller?" "Bad?" "Dangerous?"


> "Jackson 5's Greatest Hits?"

The REAL Michael Jackson: the Thriller/Off The Wall/and sometimes
even "Bad" one (by the "Moonwalker" video, his look, if not his skin
color, seemed to have undone itself)


Mazerki

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Michael Jackson been a Bizarro for long time. Why you think him got so
much surgery? Him face looked too hard and nonliving. That am what goofy
chamber thing him was caught sleeping in were for. It invented to
partially melt him Bizarro skin so it be more life-like. But think about
it - you Earth peoples not got good enough taste to marry FOX like
LISA-MARIE PRESLEY! Yeow! Whadda fox! She more hot even than woman from
"Bride of Frankenstein!" Ohh, maybe not. But anyway Michael Jackson am no
longer a real person. Him a Bizarro. Him body been gone a long time.
Bizarro Michael Jackson just took "Hooked On Phonics" to learn proper
Earth grammar. (Listen carefully - sometimes he slip!)

------- Bizarro No. 1 -------
FOR PRESIDENT IN '96!

Lizard

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On 19 Jan 1996 15:37:03 GMT, cll2...@rmii.com (Priest) wrote:

>In article <4djda4$a...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
>dva...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen) wrote:
>
>> You mean, if you'd stuck to your guns, we'd have been spared the Car Wash
>> of Doom?
>
>Can't promise that-- had Peter and I continued on the book, we would have
>done all *kinds* of silly things.

Well, there's silly, and then there's silly, if you catch my drift.

Giant transforming robots are almost inherently silly, but you can use
that as a springboard, rather than being trapped by it. One thing I
enjoy about a lot of the fanfic here is that it takes itself seriously
without losing a sense of humour.
*-------------------------------------------------------*
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The Nixtr

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Actually, I liked the Mechannibals story, for the symbolism. The plot
was dry, but the inner meaning of 52-53 meant much to me.
--
The Nixtr
*** Transformer fan ***
Abortionists make a killing in the market.

Chris Schmitt

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The Nixtr (then...@acy1.digex.net) wrote:

: Actually, I liked the Mechannibals story, for the symbolism. The plot

: was dry, but the inner meaning of 52-53 meant much to me.

What was the name of the transformer-metal eating bugs that were
destroyed by H20? It was the only Transformers story that I cared how the
good guys were going to get out of a bad situation. IMO, it was some weird
looking instrument or a brand new batch of autobots that had just come out
on the market.

--
_ |_ ` _
( '| )|/`|( ` http://www.math.fsu.edu/~cschmitt/index.html
-----------_)--------------------------------------------------------


The_Great_Cornholio

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Chris Schmitt (csch...@taylor.math.fsu.edu) wrote:

: What was the name of the transformer-metal eating bugs that were


: destroyed by H20? It was the only Transformers story that I cared how the
: good guys were going to get out of a bad situation. IMO, it was some weird
: looking instrument or a brand new batch of autobots that had just come out
: on the market.

That was the whole Scraplets story in the US comics, issues 29 and 30. I
thought it was ok, but it was just silly about the H2O. You're telling me
that mechanical beings that have liquid fuel for blood have never heard of
water? Puu-lleeze. I thought it was funny when the Scraplets merged though.
I always wanted a toy with 300 Scraplets that combined. BTW, why is this
being posted in R.A.C.dc.U? TFs were a Marvel comic.

/---------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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Scott B. Barrie

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csch...@taylor.math.fsu.edu (Chris Schmitt) wrote:

>The Nixtr (then...@acy1.digex.net) wrote:

>: Actually, I liked the Mechannibals story, for the symbolism. The plot
>: was dry, but the inner meaning of 52-53 meant much to me.

> What was the name of the transformer-metal eating bugs that were


>destroyed by H20? It was the only Transformers story that I cared how the
>good guys were going to get out of a bad situation. IMO, it was some weird
>looking instrument or a brand new batch of autobots that had just come out
>on the market.

I believe you are referring to the Scraplets.

Scott B. Barrie sba...@julian.uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario Physics Grad Student

Iggy Drougge

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Chris Schmitt (csch...@taylor.math.fsu.edu) wrote:
: The Nixtr (then...@acy1.digex.net) wrote:

: : Actually, I liked the Mechannibals story, for the symbolism. The plot
: : was dry, but the inner meaning of 52-53 meant much to me.

: What was the name of the transformer-metal eating bugs that were
: destroyed by H20? It was the only Transformers story that I cared how the
: good guys were going to get out of a bad situation. IMO, it was some weird
: looking instrument or a brand new batch of autobots that had just come out
: on the market.

Those were Scraplets. I remeber it with a fondness due to that it was one
of my first TF stories. Too bad that that mystic load resulted in the
Carwash of Doom. That could have been a great plot element.
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Chris Schmitt

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The_Great_Cornholio (Bea...@cris.com) wrote:
: BTW, why is this

: being posted in R.A.C.dc.U? TFs were a Marvel comic.

The connection to rac.dcu? Priest, who now writes the concluding
DC book JLTF, used to work on the comic.

What do Scraplets have in common with Marvel? "Kids, you'd be very
surprised." ;-)

Lawrence King

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In article <01FEB96.20...@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>, "KRACH, JOSHUA DALE" <GRE...@MUSIC.CC.UGA.EDU> writes:
|> In article <cll24j90-310...@slip22117.rmii.com> cll2...@rmii.com (Priest) writes:
|> >In article <Pine.Sola.3.91.96013...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>,
|> >TheyC <aa-...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:
|> >
|> >> Actually, another user brought to my attention that, with the
|> >> motorcycle, "Ace" was more similar to Prince, who DID have a perm at that
|> >> time, like MJ.

Ace with a perm? I think Alfred would be insulted! Ace was always
very well groomed.......

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