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Flash Forever

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Some things I've recently seen posted in news groups and/or caught
snippets about here and there. Wondered if there is any truth to it....

1. That DC plans yet another re-boot in 2005, presumably because it's an
anniversary year for Crisis. Is it true?

2. That another Batman movie is in the works. I did see one of those
OnStar comercials featuring Batman advertising some type of contest to
win a part in "the next Batman movie." Is it true?

3. That there may be renewed interest in the Superman movie project,
which seemed doubtful to me but you never know anymore. Is it true?

Just wondering. I'm not sure about the sources on some of the info
posted above--so I'm asking here. Thanks in advance.

Shannon Patrick Sullivan

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It was a dark and stormy night on Sat, 5 Jan 2002 17:44:31 -0600 (CST) when Flash Forever said:
> 1. That DC plans yet another re-boot in 2005, presumably because it's an
> anniversary year for Crisis. Is it true?

Not that I've heard...

> 2. That another Batman movie is in the works. I did see one of those
> OnStar comercials featuring Batman advertising some type of contest to
> win a part in "the next Batman movie." Is it true?

If you read the fine print, you'll note that there's an escape clause if
there's no new movie in production within a certain length of time. So I
don't think that that should be taken as any indication that the "Batman"
movie franchise's status has changed of late -- ie, Warner Bros is still
waiting for the right time/script to relaunch it.

> 3. That there may be renewed interest in the Superman movie project,
> which seemed doubtful to me but you never know anymore. Is it true?

A few places have reported McG (who directed the "Charlie's Angels" movie)
has been signed to direct, but there's been no confirmation of that.

Shannon

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ATKokmen

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flashf...@webtv.net (Flash Forever) writes:

>Some things I've recently seen posted in news groups and/or caught
>snippets about here and there. Wondered if there is any truth to it....
>
>1. That DC plans yet another re-boot in 2005, presumably because it's an
>anniversary year for Crisis. Is it true?

I don't know if it's true that another reboot is planned, but It is likely that

there will be some big events in 2005, not necessarily
because it's an anniversary year for 1985's Crisis but perhaps because
it will be the 70th anniversary of the company. (Crisis itself
was something of a 50th anniversary event.)

>2. That another Batman movie is in the works. I did see one of those
>OnStar comercials featuring Batman advertising some type of contest to
>win a part in "the next Batman movie." Is it true?

Yes. Apparently live-action movies based on Batman: Year One
and Batman Beyond movies are both in the works, though it appears the
latter is in more of a holding pattern that "Year One."

>3. That there may be renewed interest in the Superman movie project,
>which seemed doubtful to me but you never know anymore. Is it true?

I think that the next Superman movie is another of those projects
floating in limbo, but, of course, the Superman property is
so intrinsically attractive that it's easy to think that someone
somewhere has 'renewed interest' in moving a film forward.

ATK
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Dwight Williams

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Flash Forever wrote:
>
> Some things I've recently seen posted in news groups and/or caught
> snippets about here and there. Wondered if there is any truth to it....
>
> 1. That DC plans yet another re-boot in 2005, presumably because it's an
> anniversary year for Crisis. Is it true?

As a fan, I hope not. I'd consider it unnecessary.

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Flash Forever

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Thanks for filling getting me up to date on those subjects. :)

Wasn't Burton's first Batman movie a sort of "Year One" Batman? I
thought it was at least somewhat inspired by Miller's works--perhaps
more so by the Dark Knight Returns than Year One though. I came across
an old fanzine article concerning the movie recently which indicated
that the script called for Batman to ride a horse through
Gotham--recalling the scene from Miller's DKR, but the scene was cut at
the last minute.

There was also an earlier version of the script which began with the
murder of Bruce Wayne's parents and then followed him through his
training and to the point he decides to take the Batman identity.

While a script truly faithful to a comic does intrique me, I wondered if
Warner Brothers would really be wiling to launch a new Batman movie /
franchise using a film which would--in many ways--be similar to Burton's
finished Batman especially considering the run on that particular
franchise only ended a few years back. And it ended with Batman and
Robin--a weak enough movie to kill what had previously been a thriving
franchise.

Is the plan to use Miller's script (or a converted form of it) for the
Year One movie, an adaptation, or something unrelated to Miller's work
outside of sharing the same name?

I don't know anything about Batman Beyond--other than it's an animated
series on Cartoon Network. I understand the premise is that it's set in
the future and someone other than Bruce Wayne has taken the Batman
identity while an older Wayne serves as mentor. This would also be an
intrigjing idea for a live-action movie.

As for Superman, I know that there was--at one time--a plan to film
"Superman Lives" and that Nicholas Cage had been tapped to play the part
of Superman. I know the deal fell though, but no details. I gathered
that there was also some discussion about filming a Superman movie which
would pretty much follow an existing comic book script. Perhaps the two
are one and the same? The special effects in the last run of Superman
movies (at least the first two) were impressive for the time--imagine
what could be done these days with advances in special effects. I'd love
to see Superman make a movie come back sometime.

No doubt the upcoming Spiderman movie will renew interest in the
superhero movie genre--assuming the movie is done well and does boffo
buisiness at the box office. I'm sure everyone has their pick as to what
comic book character should be the next to hit the big screen. Of
course, we had Unbreakable which was a thinly disguised superhero movie
(and I believe I read somewhere the first in a trilogy?).

(Say, wasn't there also going to be a Fantastic Four movie a few years
back? I actually remember seeing a coming attractions trailer for it on
a video tape I rented. That just popped into mind.)

Cernunnos

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From what i hear it was made, and it was so bad that they threw it into the
same bottomless pit they threw the nude photos of whoopie goldberg into.


Les Bonser

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My humble opinions....

On 1/5/02 3:44 PM, in article
650-3C3...@storefull-612.iap.bryant.webtv.net, "Flash Forever"
<flashf...@webtv.net> wrote:

>
> Some things I've recently seen posted in news groups and/or caught
> snippets about here and there. Wondered if there is any truth to it....

0. Don't believe everything (or is it anything) you read on the USENET.

>
> 1. That DC plans yet another re-boot in 2005, presumably because it's an
> anniversary year for Crisis. Is it true?

1. Hadn't heard that.

>
> 2. That another Batman movie is in the works. I did see one of those
> OnStar comercials featuring Batman advertising some type of contest to
> win a part in "the next Batman movie." Is it true?

There's always a Batman movie "in the works." A lot of movies are "in the
works." The majority never get made.

There have been public discussions in reputable news outlets that there are
at least three different Batman-related properties at various points of
pre-production. One is a "Batman: Year One" movie, one is a live-action
"Batman Beyond" movie, and the third is a "Smallville" type young Bruce
Wayne tv show. Also "in the works" is a Catwoman movie; possibly starring
Ashley Judd.

I won't bet that any will ever see the screen until I actually buy my ticket
at my local movie theater.

>
> 3. That there may be renewed interest in the Superman movie project,
> which seemed doubtful to me but you never know anymore. Is it true?

This seems dead, but as you say, "you never know." Last reputable info I saw
as that Warner Bros wanted the script rewritten so they weren't stuck with a
$100 million bomb.

Les Bonser

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On 1/5/02 10:06 PM, in article
29345-3C...@storefull-617.iap.bryant.webtv.net, "Flash Forever"
<flashf...@webtv.net> wrote:

>
> No doubt the upcoming Spiderman movie will renew interest in the
> superhero movie genre--assuming the movie is done well and does boffo

X-Men already did this. Based on the positive hype regarding the latest
trailer, Spidey will kick it into full-gear. It was X-Men's success that
basically greenlighted Spidey (or at least gave the interested parties the
kick in the pants they needed to resolve their legal issues), as well as a
new Blade movie and probably Smallville, and the forthcoming Hulk movie. The
continued success of the genre will only mean more movies.

> (Say, wasn't there also going to be a Fantastic Four movie a few years
> back? I actually remember seeing a coming attractions trailer for it on
> a video tape I rented. That just popped into mind.)

That stinker has never been released. It's supposedly that bad. I think you
can find bootleg copies at comic-cons.

DannyboymcNY

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>Subject: Re: Is it true?
>From: ad...@freenet.carleton.ca (Dwight Williams)
>Date: 1/5/2002 8:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <3C37A71B...@ncf.ca>

>
>Flash Forever wrote:
>>
>> Some things I've recently seen posted in news groups and/or caught
>> snippets about here and there. Wondered if there is any truth to it....
>>
>> 1. That DC plans yet another re-boot in 2005, presumably because it's an
>> anniversary year for Crisis. Is it true?
>
>As a fan, I hope not. I'd consider it unnecessary.

I wouldn't. IMO, the DCU is in poor shape as far as having a cohesive history.
It's not so much that I require everything fit together perfectly, but I do
think it should be possible to know that things aren't going to change just
because John Q. Writer gets a "brilliant" idea. Currently, this is what seems
to be happening.

Paul "Duggy" Duggan

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On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Flash Forever wrote:
>Some things I've recently seen posted in news groups and/or caught
>snippets about here and there. Wondered if there is any truth to it....

>1. That DC plans yet another re-boot in 2005, presumably because it's an
>anniversary year for Crisis. Is it true?

It sounds exactly like a joke that's been bouncing around since Zero-Hour.

>2. That another Batman movie is in the works. I did see one of those
>OnStar comercials featuring Batman advertising some type of contest to
>win a part in "the next Batman movie." Is it true?

Vague rumours. But "in the works" describes a lot of Superhero stuff for
the last dozan years. It means nothing until something starts happening.

>3. That there may be renewed interest in the Superman movie project,
>which seemed doubtful to me but you never know anymore. Is it true?

As above.


Paul "Duggy" Duggan

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On 6 Jan 2002, ATKokmen wrote:
>>2. That another Batman movie is in the works. I did see one of those
>>OnStar comercials featuring Batman advertising some type of contest to
>>win a part in "the next Batman movie." Is it true?
>Yes. Apparently live-action movies based on Batman: Year One
>and Batman Beyond movies are both in the works, though it appears the
>latter is in more of a holding pattern that "Year One."

Again? I thought both had been put on hold a year or two back...

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Dug wrote:
: ATKokmen wrote:
: > Flash wrote:
:
: >> That another Batman movie is in the works. I did

: >> see one of those OnStar comercials featuring
: >> Batman advertising some type of contest to win
: >> a part in "the next Batman movie." Is it true?
:
: >Yes. Apparently live-action movies based on
: > Batman: Year One and Batman Beyond movies
: > are both in the works, though it appears the latter
: > is in more of a holding pattern that "Year One."
:
: Again? I thought both had been put on hold a year
: or two back...

You got it. Both Y1 and BB are on indefinite suspension,
until a script solidifies, if it ever does.

...Loren

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Paul "Duggy" Duggan

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On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Flash Forever wrote:

>Thanks for filling getting me up to date on those subjects. :)

>Wasn't Burton's first Batman movie a sort of "Year One" Batman?

In as much as it had Year 1 trappings: Batman urban legend/new to job
Mistrusted by police, etc.

>I know the deal fell though, but no details.

Nick had left much earlier. Burton had a script but the WB weren't
willing to spend the money he wanted on the script he had.

Paul "Duggy" Duggan

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On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Flash Forever wrote:
>(Say, wasn't there also going to be a Fantastic Four movie a few years
>back? I actually remember seeing a coming attractions trailer for it on
>a video tape I rented. That just popped into mind.)

The rights were about to expire, so they company went to Roger Corman and
made a really cheap movie.

Paul "Duggy" Duggan

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On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Les Bonser wrote:
>> 1. That DC plans yet another re-boot in 2005, presumably because it's an
>> anniversary year for Crisis. Is it true?
>1. Hadn't heard that.

I had, but only in the context of "What happens in ten years?"
"Who cares DC will have another reboot in 2005"

>I won't bet that any will ever see the screen until I actually buy my ticket
>at my local movie theater.

I usually go by Hollywood premiers. If they have one they probably have
made the film.



>This seems dead, but as you say, "you never know." Last reputable info I saw
>as that Warner Bros wanted the script rewritten so they weren't stuck with a
>$100 million bomb.

I've heard stuff since then, but vague rumoury stuff.

Paul "Duggy" Duggan

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On 6 Jan 2002, DannyboymcNY wrote:
>I wouldn't. IMO, the DCU is in poor shape as far as having a cohesive history.
> It's not so much that I require everything fit together perfectly, but I do
>think it should be possible to know that things aren't going to change just
>because John Q. Writer gets a "brilliant" idea. Currently, this is what seems
>to be happening.

A reboot is pointless.

Most of the Silver Agers are dead or out of the picture.

Just start a new fresh side universe. Batman and Superman could support
it. If it fails, it fails... but then you haven't lost the old universe.

Flash Forever

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Yep. I totally blanked on X-Men. I'm sure sequels are in the works for
that one. Could that be considred the first real success that Marvel has
had with a theatical movie? (Well, Blade notwithstanding I suppose...)

I saw the trailer for the upcoming Spidey movie for the first time when
I went to see Lord of the Rings during the holidays. It looks like it
will be a fun movie, with a sense of humour about it. The special
effects look incredible and I mean, honestly, isn't that what we pay the
big bucks for when it comes to super-hero type movies? :)

As for DC characters, it seems they are currently more evident on the
small screen--there are several animated series and the new Smallville
series (which I can't get on my cable so I don't know how good / bad it
is--but I hear good things).

Roger Corman and the Fantastic Four? Why...why that goes together just
like peas and carrots. Now tell me, HOW could *that* possibly have been
bad? ;)


JVV4sm

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Jan 6, 2002, 5:56:23 AM1/6/02
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>
>Yep. I totally blanked on X-Men. I'm sure sequels are in the works for
>that one.

They recently announced the release date for X-Men2: May 2, 2003

jayembee

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On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:06:21 -0600 (CST), Flash Forever babbled...

> Is the plan to use Miller's script (or a converted form
> of it) for the Year One movie, an adaptation, or
> something unrelated to Miller's work outside of
> sharing the same name?

The plan is a real, honest-to-God adaptation of Miller's
story. The script is (as far as I know) still being worked
on, as a collaboration between Miller himself and
Darren Aronofsky, who's been pegged to direct the
film as well (he previously did PI and REQUIEM FOR
A DREAM).

I believe that the "on hold" status of the film is simply
due to Warner waiting for the script to be finished and
then go through the approval process.


-- jayembee (jerry period boyajian at-sign eds period com)

"Be vewy, vewy quiet. I'm hunting wepwicants." (Hawwison Fudd, BWADE WUNNER)

jayembee

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On Sun, 06 Jan 2002 06:27:24 GMT, Les Bonser babbled...

>> (Say, wasn't there also going to be a Fantastic Four
>> movie a few years back? I actually remember seeing
>> a coming attractions trailer for it on a video tape I
>> rented. That just popped into mind.)

> That stinker has never been released. It's supposedly
> that bad. I think you can find bootleg copies at comic-cons.

While it's true that the film was never released, it's not
quite true that it was withheld because it stinks on ice
(that's never stopped other Roger Corman productions
from being released, after all).

It's a bit convoluted, but apparently, after the Corman
film was ready to go, a big studio became interested
in the property, bought all rights to it, and squashed
release of the Corman film. And then never made their
own film.

A friend loaned me a bootleg of the Corman film years
back. I tried to watch it, but the video/audio quality was
so bad (it was probably a 10th-gen copy of a copy) that
I gave up after about 10-15 minutes. From what I was
able to pick out, I didn't think I was missing much by
not watching the rest.

But I can't imagine it was any worse than the JLA TV
pilot film.

jayembee

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On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 03:37:47 -0600 (CST), Flash Forever babbled...

> Yep. I totally blanked on X-Men. I'm sure sequels are
> in the works for that one.

One, definitely. Bryan Singer had to bow out of a proposed
Battlestar Galactica revival project for the Fox network in
order to start working on X-MEN 2 (aside: without Singer's
participation in it, Fox dropped the BG revival). The rumored
storyline involves the creation of the Sentinels.

> Could that be considred the first real success that
> Marvel has had with a theatical movie? (Well,
> Blade notwithstanding I suppose...)

Well, technically, one could also include MEN IN BLACK
as well. But if you're talking about mainstream Marvel
superheroes, then yes, X-MEN is their first real success.

(By the way, in addition to the Spidey trailer, when I
saw LOTR, there was a trailer for BLADE 2.)

> I saw the trailer for the upcoming Spidey movie for
> the first time when I went to see Lord of the Rings
> during the holidays. It looks like it will be a fun
> movie, with a sense of humour about it. The special
> effects look incredible and I mean, honestly, isn't
> that what we pay the big bucks for when it comes
> to super-hero type movies? :)

I dunno. My impression from the trailer was that it'll
have a solid story, characterization, and acting, but
the CGI didn't look right to me. It looked too obviously
computer-generated.

> Roger Corman and the Fantastic Four? Why...why
> that goes together just like peas and carrots.

You say that like it's a good thing.

> Now tell me, HOW could *that* possibly have been
> bad? ;)

Quite easily, actually.

I mean, c'mon. The vast bulk of Corman's work is pretty
cheesy stuff. Sometimes, that gives it a certain naive
charm but most of the time it just makes for a bad movie.

Doug Tonks

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jayembee (Jerry Boyajian) wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Jan 2002 06:27:24 GMT, Les Bonser babbled...
>
>>> (Say, wasn't there also going to be a Fantastic Four
>>> movie a few years back? I actually remember seeing
>>> a coming attractions trailer for it on a video tape I
>>> rented. That just popped into mind.)
>
>> That stinker has never been released. It's supposedly
>> that bad. I think you can find bootleg copies at comic-cons.
>
>While it's true that the film was never released, it's not
>quite true that it was withheld because it stinks on ice
>(that's never stopped other Roger Corman productions
>from being released, after all).

My understanding of the reasons the Corman FF was never released parallel
yours, but I wanted to point out that, although it wasn't withheld because it
stinks on ice, that doesn't mean that it doesn't stink on ice. It's pretty bad,
though not particularly worse than "The Punisher" or "Captain America," two
previous Marvel movies that were released, at least on video.

>It's a bit convoluted, but apparently, after the Corman
>film was ready to go, a big studio became interested
>in the property, bought all rights to it, and squashed
>release of the Corman film. And then never made their
>own film.

At the time it was reported that Chris Columbus, most recently the director of
"Harry Potter," was interested in the property. I was looking around the
Internet Movie Database and noticed that he's got a story credit and a
production credit for a 2003 Fantastic Four movie (with Sam Hamm listed as
screenwriter). The information looks to be a few months old, but it looks like
there's still ongoing interest.

Also of interest on IMDb was "Batman: Year One," the Darren Aronofsky-Frank
Miller film is listed as a 2002 release. Sam Hamm also has a screenplay credit
here (although it seems as if they've combined some of these details with a
planned "Batman 5" that would've featured the Scarecrow as the villain), and
it's reported as being set twenty years before the first Tim Burton movie.

The Ang Lee Hulk movie is listed for release in 2003. It looks to star Jennifer
Connelly, currently starring in "A Brilliant Mind." She also played the
Rocketeer's girlfriend (pointedly NOT named Betty) in that movie a few years
back. They also list Sam Elliott as General Thunderbolt Ross. Bo Sam Hamm
credit, though. Steve Ditko does get a credit as a comics creator. I wonder if
this means that they're hewing fairly closely to the original stories. How many
Hulk stories did Ditko do? IIRC, it wasn't more than a dozen after Kirby had
firmly established the character.

The IMDb had no listing for any sort of Superman movie currently in
pre-production. Fortunately for anyone reading this at this point, the IMDb
website stopped responding.

>A friend loaned me a bootleg of the Corman film years
>back. I tried to watch it, but the video/audio quality was
>so bad (it was probably a 10th-gen copy of a copy) that
>I gave up after about 10-15 minutes. From what I was
>able to pick out, I didn't think I was missing much by
>not watching the rest.

You certainly weren't.

>But I can't imagine it was any worse than the JLA TV
>pilot film.

I've only seen clips of the JLA movie at cons, but from what little I could
tell, the FF film was better.

--Doug Tonks
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AIDS Prevention Education
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Flash Forever

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There was a pilot for a JLA television series? I didn't know about that
one.

Brian M. Moore

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Yeah, I have a copy. It's really bad. Martian Manhunter (woozy, can only
change form with pain and for a short time), Flash (a jerk), Fire (best
character), Atom (Ray Palmer, wimpy high school teacher), Green Lantern
(Guy Gardner: wise, gentle, and a true leader).

Bad plot: think weather wizard meets a traitor at STAR Labs). The powers
were limited and awarkardly used.

David Odgen Stiles plays J'onn J'onzz, and his stiff awkward
latex-covered performance is about par for the show. There is a
"dramatic moment" when the Atom (who can get down to JUST 6 INCHES)
saves a cat under the porch.

Flash Forever wrote:
>
> There was a pilot for a JLA television series? I didn't know about that
> one.

--
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is most like itself."

- Paradiso, Canto VII Dante Alighieri

Doug Tonks

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Flash Forever (flashf...@webtv.net) wrote:

>There was a pilot for a JLA television series? I didn't know about that
>one.

And if you ever get a chance to see any of it, you'll wish you still didn't.

I am Luke

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...and if you'd ever seen it, you'd know why you've never heard of it.

Just to give you a feel for the pilot: The Martian Manhunter was
played by David Ogden Stiers. Oh yeah, the Martian Winchester!
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Bryan Maloney

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> I think that the next Superman movie is another of those projects
> floating in limbo, but, of course, the Superman property is
> so intrinsically attractive that it's easy to think that someone
> somewhere has 'renewed interest' in moving a film forward.

Of course, we can always rent the Indian Superman movie if we really have to
have another to watch.


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decide to resist the hijackers and prevent them from completing their
mission? Because they knew: their relatives had told them by cell phone that
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were armed with final awareness of the nature of the evil they faced.

So armed, they could act. So armed, they did."
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Bryan Maloney

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"Paul \"Duggy\" Duggan" <jc12...@jcu.edu.au> wrote in
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> On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Flash Forever wrote:
>>Some things I've recently seen posted in news groups and/or caught
>>snippets about here and there. Wondered if there is any truth to it....
>
>>1. That DC plans yet another re-boot in 2005, presumably because it's
>>an anniversary year for Crisis. Is it true?
>
> It sounds exactly like a joke that's been bouncing around since
> Zero-Hour.

Maybe it'll be an all funny animals reboot.

The Thirteenth

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Jan 7, 2002, 10:30:50 PM1/7/02
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> > No doubt the upcoming Spiderman movie will renew interest in the
> > superhero movie genre--assuming the movie is done well and does boffo
>
> X-Men already did this. Based on the positive hype regarding the latest
> trailer, Spidey will kick it into full-gear. It was X-Men's success that
> basically greenlighted Spidey (or at least gave the interested parties the
> kick in the pants they needed to resolve their legal issues)

Actually the Spidey legal issues were resolved in early 1999. X-men didn't come
out (and therefore wasn't a success) until summer 2000.


> , as well as a
> new Blade movie and probably Smallville, and the forthcoming Hulk movie. The
> continued success of the genre will only mean more movies.

Blade 1's success greenlighted Blade 2.

troy

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Jan 8, 2002, 4:24:42 PM1/8/02
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And my years of hoarding copies of Captain Carrot and the Zoo Crew will
finally pay off!!!


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Paul "Duggy" Duggan

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Jan 8, 2002, 7:53:40 PM1/8/02
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, jayembee wrote:
>One, definitely. Bryan Singer had to bow out of a proposed
>Battlestar Galactica revival project for the Fox network in
>order to start working on X-MEN 2 (aside: without Singer's
>participation in it, Fox dropped the BG revival).

Which, if the ideas I heard they were going with with were true, *isn't* a
bad thing.

> The rumored
>storyline involves the creation of the Sentinels.

I'd heard human-not-robot Sentinels rumours? Anyone hear anything else?

Paul "Duggy" Duggan

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Jan 8, 2002, 8:05:17 PM1/8/02
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On 6 Jan 2002, Doug Tonks wrote:
>At the time it was reported that Chris Columbus, most recently the director of
>"Harry Potter," was interested in the property. I was looking around the
>Internet Movie Database and noticed that he's got a story credit and a
>production credit for a 2003 Fantastic Four movie (with Sam Hamm listed as
>screenwriter). The information looks to be a few months old, but it looks like
>there's still ongoing interest.

Then again, the same could have been said about a James Cameron Spiderman
for about ten years...

>Also of interest on IMDb was "Batman: Year One," the Darren Aronofsky-Frank
>Miller film is listed as a 2002 release. Sam Hamm also has a screenplay credit
>here (although it seems as if they've combined some of these details with a
>planned "Batman 5" that would've featured the Scarecrow as the villain), and
>it's reported as being set twenty years before the first Tim Burton movie.

Fans posting rumours... pretty unreliable.

>The Ang Lee Hulk movie is listed for release in 2003. It looks to star Jennifer
>Connelly, currently starring in "A Brilliant Mind." She also played the
>Rocketeer's girlfriend (pointedly NOT named Betty) in that movie a few years
>back. They also list Sam Elliott as General Thunderbolt Ross. Bo Sam Hamm
>credit, though. Steve Ditko does get a credit as a comics creator. I wonder if
>this means that they're hewing fairly closely to the original stories. How many
>Hulk stories did Ditko do? IIRC, it wasn't more than a dozen after Kirby had
>firmly established the character.

Eric Bana is rumour to play Bruce Banner.

jayembee

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Jan 9, 2002, 11:33:15 AM1/9/02
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 18:52:00 -0600 (CST), Flash Forever babbled...

> There was a pilot for a JLA television series? I didn't
> know about that one.

Then I apologize for spilling the beans. This is one of
those instances in which ignorance truly *is* bliss.

BritReid

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Jan 9, 2002, 3:42:36 PM1/9/02
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<< > There was a pilot for a JLA television series? I didn't
> know about that one.

Then I apologize for spilling the beans. This is one of
those instances in which ignorance truly *is* bliss. >>

Well, it features Michelle Hurd (Law & Order: SVU, Leap Years) as Fire in a
skintight costume...

-Brit

MadiHolmes

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Jan 9, 2002, 7:44:34 PM1/9/02
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J'onn looks like he hit the Oreos a little too hard <after he'd deep fat fried
them in banana and peanut butter sandwiches>.

Truly, godawful.

MadiHolmes

Flash Forever

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Jan 9, 2002, 7:58:10 PM1/9/02
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So, was Colonel Winchester...um, I mean, Martian Manhunter green? Maybe
they were trying to pull off an Incredible Hulk look? Um....no,
no....probably not....hmmmmm....

So was this actually ever broadcast?

Paul "Duggy" Duggan

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Jan 9, 2002, 10:44:47 PM1/9/02
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I didn't see it but it was shown on pay-TV in Australia...

jayembee

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Jan 10, 2002, 9:22:39 AM1/10/02
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On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 18:58:10 -0600 (CST), Flash Forever babbled...

> So, was Colonel Winchester...um, I mean, Martian
> Manhunter green?

Yes.

> So was this actually ever broadcast?

No. Fortunately, saner heads at CBS prevailed.

BritReid

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Jan 10, 2002, 10:47:45 AM1/10/02
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Re: the infamous live-action JLA pilot...

<< >So was this actually ever broadcast?

I didn't see it but it was shown on pay-TV in Australia... >>

Was it released commercially in PAL-format VHS or DVD or did any fan Down Under
tape it?

Brit

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