> "Tom Russell!
> J'Accuse! For all your claims of hating anti-superhero stories, you have
> become what you hate, and stand guilty of *gratuitous grim'n'gritty*!"
Oh noes!
In all seriousness, thank you for your feedback, Saxon. You've given
me a lot to chew on.
When I was discussing this story with my wife, and mentioned my unease
about the possibility of things tipping over to Le Grim et Gritty, she
said, "Yes, you wouldn't want anything that feels jarring. What
you're talking about totally wouldn't fit in with the kids who were
killed by the park shooter (# 4)? Or when Martin was assaulted by the
Contessa (# 8)? Or when Derek's father was murdered by the serial
killer (# 14)? The extinction of the balloon animals (# 18)?" Well,
she didn't say it in quite those words, and certainly not with
parenthetical issue numbers, but the point she made still had some
sting: as much as I talk about optimism, JOLT CITY as a whole has been
pretty downbeat, and one could argue that it tips over too much into
darkness.
And yet-- I'd like to think it's an optimistic series, that it carries
real affection for the people in it, instead of hating them the way an
anti-superhero story or series very clearly despises the people it's
supposed to be about. I'd like to think that I empathize with my
people's weaknesses and tribulations, instead of being above them or
making cheap little points at their expense. My hope, as mentioned
elsewhere, was that Martin's perhaps quixotic sacrifice was heroic and
dignified enough to offset the terrible circumstances which put him in
that situation; it is entirely possible, however, that a quixotic
sacrifice in a superhero story is mutually exclusive to the genre.
The same could be said, perhaps, for a story in which evil is largely
triumphant and goes unpunished. And no matter how much I yammer on
about intentions, hopes, and why-I-did-this-or-that-etc., the simple
fact remains that this story did, indeed, contain those things.
I will say, in case this last installment has made any readers weary,
that it's unlikely for a disaster of this scale to hit the city again
any time soon.
> Finally, a revised impression of the summary of Fish's fate. On
> first read through I found it tedious and irritating.
Sorry.
> Finally it occurred to me that the contrast between the Canton and
> Proctor scene, and the Fish summary, was the key. The first showed the
> scene, then second narrated it. Yeah, it's the 'show, don't tell' adage.
> Possibly this is a bit unfair a comparison in this instance, since the
> Fish summary is telling of things happening in the future, and at the end
> of an already lengthy story really does need to be a short and sweet.
> You can't really construct an epilogue showing something like an innocent
> man rotting in gaol for several decades.
One reason why I went with the summary-- besides length-- is that the
summary format allowed for some wistfulness in my phrasing. The voice
of the narrator in that section was intended to be distant (one reason
for the flash-forward), saddened, and resigned. My hope is that that
would lessen the sting of the injustice somewhat, and it made room for
those final lines you alluded to--
"I'd like to say that one day, the truth did come out, that poor
Fish was vindicated from the grave. But what good would that do him;
what comfort would it provide? The dead are dead. The future holds
promise and terror in equal measure, but it only does so for the
living."
-- which I'm still quite proud of, and which I hoped would resonate in
a more... how do I say this without being too pretentious? I guess I
can just say that I wanted those words to be evocative of something
bigger than Fish, something bigger than any one person.
It's not that I didn't want the reader angry-- as I said elsewhere, I
definitely intended to agitate one's sense of justice. I guess what I
was trying to do by using that summary format and that tone was to try
and ensure that while the reader might be angry about what had
happened, he wouldn't also be angry at me for writing it. :-O
How well I succeeded, though, is obviously up for debate.
And here's hoping, as always, that you (and others) get more pleasure
from the next installment.
==Tom
> And then there's Dr Tarif. WTF!? Does she read comics as well?
> Or does she just read *everything* and retain it all with near-eidetic
> memory?
I'm not sure if the good doctor would be an active fan of fictional
superhero comics, especially considering how she lives in a universe
populated by "real" four-colour heroes. But being that she knew the
various Captain Marvel characters and publisher names, comics probably
figured as one of her many points of interest at some point.
I'm also unsure if she has eidetic memory-- she probably has a pretty
good one to be able to do the whole super-genius inventor thing that
will lead to her Nobel-winning invention of the perpetual motion
machine (as mentioned in the Grey Gelding story)-- but I don't think
it's a stretch to say that she might remember how the Fawcett Marvel
Family's powers worked even if she hadn't touched a comic since she
was a teenager; I don't have anything that approaches an eidetic
memory, but sometimes a little lightbulb will go off in my head and
out will come some fact I haven't thought of in ten or fifteen years
that proves useful in a given situation.
There's also the possibility, of course, that since they were trying
to figure out how the powers worked, and since Derek offered Marvel as
a solution, that the two things just clicked in her head and out came
that little bit of information-- so it wasn't completely out of the
blue, as it were.
==Tom
> SW10: What About Judy And Me?
> A Superhuman World [SW10] story
> by Scott Eiler
Oops, I guess this story really is public.
> I think I may have misjudged Wyatt. That includes a mixture of
> both good and bad, incidentally. I think that somewhere along the line
> the combination of 'crusading gonzo reporter who'll go anywhere' and
> 'superpowers' got a bit mixed up in my head, such that I rather
> unthinkingly expected the character to act like a superhero. This
> despite the fact that only a few moment's recollection was needed to
> indicate that, no, actually he's been acting like a gonzo journalist.
> This wrongfooted me towards the end of the post when his actions, which
> had been predictable up until then, stopped being so.
Well then, that's a good thing. If Wyatt Ferguson wanted to be a
superhero, he'd have been one already.
> Specifically Wyatt is set to marry his longtime girlfriend Judy
> Kraaco, but on the day of the wedding Judy's grand-niece Mary Mystery
> casts some paranoia spells to disrupt the occasion...
>
> So what happens next? Well, Wyatt leaves, retrenches, and
> eventually unearths what happened. Significantly however he doesn't use
> this information to try to vindicate himself with Judy. And I'm not
> even completely sure whether he even tried.
I think I can testify, Wyatt sent Judy an e-mail with the evidence.
She never responded.
> At times like this I really regret the presentation of Wyatt's
> reports in blog entry style. I get the feeling that they're able to
> handle reports of straight facts, but that they're less amenable for
> explaining feelings and motivations. Even if they're his own.
> Especially if they're his own.
Heh. We can't really blame the format, because it's Wyatt's blog
after all. The format just expresses what Wyatt wants to say.
Wyatt really ought to mention, his motivations may have been entangled
at the time, but he's now glad to be free from that dysfunctional
family stuff. He's the ultimate free spirit, after all. He's also
reluctant to talk about more of that family stuff in public.
Yes, I've established Wyatt and I are not quite exact counterparts.
But there's still a lot of Me in Wyatt Ferguson.
> Anyway, I'm mildly interested in seeing how the depiction of the
> Multiversal Office is handled in the ASH setting. My reason? Well, the
> Multiversal Office first appeared in the initial Net.Trenchcoat Brigade
> story/chaotic add-on cascade _Wrath of the Administrator_ back in the
> early 1990s and later got used by Dvandom in the 'Bad Forms' arc for his
> old Legion of Net.Heroes series _Constellation_ and crossovers.
And their appearance in ASH, usually so isolated from other fiction
universes, was a welcome surprise! (Both the isolation and the appearance
make sense, mind you, due to how the Barrier works and how the Office
works.)
> I mention this because I think there's a subtle difference between its two
> depictions - which I suspect I only really notice now because I recently
> reread parts of _Wrath of the Administrator_ when I was researching the
> character of Doubt, the Eight Endless for the 5th High Concept Challenge
> back in December 2009. The NTB story, being faux-Vertigo style,
> combined the surreal with the Kafka-esque. The LNH story, being
> superhero parody, took the surreal and pumped a lot of it up to become
> silliness and could not help but tone down some of the Kafka-esque
> elements. Quite apart from the whole 'superheroes simply fight their
> way through any obstacle' inherent within the genre, the way that Acton
> Lord was able to (quite brilliantly, actually) outthink the Office's
> drain on his life force defies the type of existential helplessness that
> unaccountable bureaucracy should create.
Which is (one reason) why I love superheroes: they fight helplessness,
apathy, and the deprecation of the individual.
> Now, at the risk of pointing out the bleeding obvious, _Academy of
> Super-Heroes_ doesn't quite share the genre styles of either the Trench-
> coaters or the Legion. It's more of a science fiction/four colour
> superhero hybrid. What will that mean for the way the Multiversal
> office manifests in the mainstream ASH universe? We shall have to wait
> and see.
I figure it'll be more about the mechanics behind the Office than either of
the previous two was; more so than NTB because it'd decrease the horror,
and more so than LNH because it'd get in the way of drama and
puncheminnaface. (LNH had more than NTB, tho, because puzzle-solutions are
so intrinsic to superheroes; the Easily-Discovered Man part of the
crossover is probably the best example.)
> The Gong Fu Kid
> A High Concept Challenge [Contest] posting
> by Martin Phipps
<snip>
> Fortunately the first _The Karate Kid_ movie has such a high profile
> pop-culture presence that I can recognise its general plot structure
> even though I've never seen it or its sequel.
Actually, this was based on the recent remake!
> Jolt City #19
> 'The Little League of Doom!'
> An Eightfold [8Fold] series
> by Tom Russell
<snip>
> Other impressions: Poor Blue Boxer is still smarting from the
> public reaction to his fight with the telegraph pole, huh? Well, his
> success in solving the problem of the Little Leaguers should help soothe
> his ego a bit - but I suspect that'll just set him up for his next fall.
I don't think we'll be jumping right into hubris quite yet. It looks like
Derek's going to be the main action hero from now on - which means he'll
have a whole new set of problems on his shoulders.
> Sad things is, the Boxer is a bit of the cocky side, coming up with good
> ideas but not necessarily thinking them through. The engineering of the
> pizo electric boots are a case in point. So I would hazard that the
> Boxer needs to learn from his setbacks, rather than merely move past them.
He seems to have some ability in that area - more than Martin does,
definitely.
> And then there's Dr Tarif. WTF!? Does she read comics as well?
> Or does she just read *everything* and retain it all with near-eidetic
> memory?
Dr. Tarif <3
> So, is it possible that it can be proclaimed: "Tom Russell!
> J'Accuse! For all your claims of hating anti-superhero stories, you have
> become what you hate, and stand guilty of *gratuitous grim'n'gritty*!"
> Eh, maybe, maybe not. The final 'the dead are dead, let them rest in
> peace' statement provides a more realistic balance than any revelation of
> a post-mortem vindication, but the fact remains that the scene is still
> written to evoke emotion and the inherent unpleasantness of the emotion
> may contribute.
Yeah; it's grim, yes, and an argument could maybe be made for gritty, but
it's definitely not gratuitous.
> Yeah, it's the 'show, don't tell' adage.
> Possibly this is a bit unfair a comparison in this instance, since the
> Fish summary is telling of things happening in the future, and at the end
> of an already lengthy story really does need to be a short and sweet.
> You can't really construct an epilogue showing something like an innocent
> man rotting in gaol for several decades.
Mmmmm. After thinking about it, I realized that part of my problem with it
is that I simply don't like "this is what the future is going to be"
epilogues.
> SW10: What About Judy And Me?
> A Superhuman World [SW10] story
> by Scott Eiler
<snip>
> At times like this I really regret the presentation of Wyatt's
> reports in blog entry style. I get the feeling that they're able to
> handle reports of straight facts, but that they're less amenable for
> explaining feelings and motivations. Even if they're his own.
> Especially if they're his own.
I'd like to see this story from the opposite point of view!
Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, or another, anyway.
> My hope, as mentioned
> elsewhere, was that Martin's perhaps quixotic sacrifice was heroic and
> dignified enough to offset the terrible circumstances which put him in
> that situation; it is entirely possible, however, that a quixotic
> sacrifice in a superhero story is mutually exclusive to the genre.
I don't think so. Heroism is heroism, and sometimes, lost causes are the
only ones worth fighting for. *puts a crysanthemum on Lost Cause Boy's
grave*
Besides, sometimes, you try and it just doesn't work. That's life; it's
not pointlessly dark, it's just how it works sometimes.
> "I'd like to say that one day, the truth did come out, that poor
> Fish was vindicated from the grave. But what good would that do him;
> what comfort would it provide? The dead are dead. The future holds
> promise and terror in equal measure, but it only does so for the
> living."
>
> -- which I'm still quite proud of, and which I hoped would resonate in
> a more... how do I say this without being too pretentious? I guess I
> can just say that I wanted those words to be evocative of something
> bigger than Fish, something bigger than any one person.
And, IMHO, it did. I gotta say, that's my favorite part of the whole
thing.
Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, Fish dish.
> The Gong Fu Kid
> A High Concept Challenge [Contest] posting
> by Martin Phipps
>
> Here's the first of there High Concept Challenge entries for round
> 10: the immigrant experience.
> Since I got burnt last time I'll go the obvious route and start off
> by taking a guess at which movie Martin is using as a template for this
> story. This might not normally be too difficult an ask, but frankly
> I've never been that much of a film buff (either through cinema release
> or television reruns) so I'd normally be at a disadvantage in this sort
> of... and yes, I do mean this literally in my case... *guessing* game.
Could it be that you're still a little bit mad at me about Swell Boy?
> Fortunately the first _The Karate Kid_ movie has such a high profile
> pop-culture presence that I can recognise its general plot structure
> even though I've never seen it or its sequel.
> In any case, Jaden Smith and his mother move to China when she gets
> a job at the United States embassy. Jaden slowly makes friends with the
> locals, and through his acquaintance with the girl Su zi is introduced
> to the home economics teacher Mr Han, who agrees to teach Jaden
> appropriate 'skill', or gong fu.
Right. I found it odd one time when I couldn't open one of these
sealed cups of water and an old man came up to me and said "I'll show
you" and he took a straw, held it up in the air and then struck the
plastic lid of the cup, penetrating it with the straw. "Oh," I said,
"you don't need to take the plastic off: you just stick the straw
straight through!" He nodded and said "Chinese gong fu!"
I thought he was joking but as my Chinese improved here I got to the
point where I could read street signs and advertising. I saw an ad
that said -literally translated from Chinese- "Our furniture is made
with the best gong fu!" Now if "gong fu" is a fighting style then the
sentence didn't make much sense so I looked "gong fu" up in the
dictionary and it said "skill", not "fighting skill" just "skill".
So when this Karate Kid remake came out people complained online that
it should be called "The Kung Fu" kid. Every time people made this
complaint I pointed out that "gong fu" in Chinese actually means
"skill" so "The Gong Fu Kid" could be about somebody learning to use
chopsticks. Then, conveniently enough, the immigrant challenge
appeared.
Oh, by the way, I never saw the remake of The Karate Kid: it was
boycotted here in Taiwan.
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/art/movies-&-films/2009/04/23/205432/Jackie-Chan.htm
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking+News/Lifestyle/Story/STIStory_367422.html
Martin