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Andrew Perron
May 8, 2012, 1:33:44 AM5/8/12
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Hwaet! I have created a link for the Legion into the greater Internet:
http://netheroes.tumblr.com/
I'm planning to post stories one chapter per day, posting full arcs and
skipping between series, in an order that will ease people into the
universe while showing off its breadth and depth.
I'm wondering, though: Would it be okay, ethically speaking, to repost
stories from writers who aren't around anymore? I mean, I'd put in all the
credits, and I certainly wouldn't be making money off it... I'd assume it
would be similar to putting it in the archives, but what do you think?
On the same note, might I get permission from those writers who *are*
around to repost your stuff? (I have several specific arcs in mind
already...)
Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, not sure if he should post on
weekends...
http://netheroes.tumblr.com/
I'm planning to post stories one chapter per day, posting full arcs and
skipping between series, in an order that will ease people into the
universe while showing off its breadth and depth.
I'm wondering, though: Would it be okay, ethically speaking, to repost
stories from writers who aren't around anymore? I mean, I'd put in all the
credits, and I certainly wouldn't be making money off it... I'd assume it
would be similar to putting it in the archives, but what do you think?
On the same note, might I get permission from those writers who *are*
around to repost your stuff? (I have several specific arcs in mind
already...)
Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, not sure if he should post on
weekends...
Scott Eiler
May 8, 2012, 11:15:44 AM5/8/12
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On 05/07/2012 10:33 PM, Andrew Perron wrote:
> Hwaet! I have created a link for the Legion into the greater Internet:
> http://netheroes.tumblr.com/
>
> I'm planning to post stories one chapter per day, posting full arcs and
> skipping between series, in an order that will ease people into the
> universe while showing off its breadth and depth.
That seems like a good evangelism tool.
> Hwaet! I have created a link for the Legion into the greater Internet:
> http://netheroes.tumblr.com/
>
> I'm planning to post stories one chapter per day, posting full arcs and
> skipping between series, in an order that will ease people into the
> universe while showing off its breadth and depth.
> I'm wondering, though: Would it be okay, ethically speaking, to repost
> stories from writers who aren't around anymore? I mean, I'd put in all the
> credits, and I certainly wouldn't be making money off it... I'd assume it
> would be similar to putting it in the archives, but what do you think?
> On the same note, might I get permission from those writers who *are*
> around to repost your stuff? (I have several specific arcs in mind
> already...)
Saxon Brenton
May 8, 2012, 8:46:21 PM5/8/12
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Scott Eiler replied:
Andrew Perron wrote about setting up a Legion tumblr:
>> I'm wondering, though: Would it be okay, ethically speaking, to repost
>> stories from writers who aren't around anymore? I mean, I'd put in all the
>> credits, and I certainly wouldn't be making money off it... I'd assume it
>> would be similar to putting it in the archives, but what do you think?
>
> I think if it was posted to Usenet without x-no-archive, it's fair game.
I would tend to agree with that interpretation... Of course, it might be
>> stories from writers who aren't around anymore? I mean, I'd put in all the
>> credits, and I certainly wouldn't be making money off it... I'd assume it
>> would be similar to putting it in the archives, but what do you think?
>
> I think if it was posted to Usenet without x-no-archive, it's fair game.
sophistry: One could argue that there's a difference between the immediacy
and stumble-across-it serendipity of a tumblr and an archive...
Ahem. Anyway. Feel free to repost my stuff (both stories and the meager
few pieces of art) as it takes your fancy.
---
Saxon Brenton
The world will not end in 2012. Not when the 50th anniversary of _Doctor Who_ is in 2013.
Arthur Spitzer
May 8, 2012, 9:12:03 PM5/8/12
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On 5/7/12 10:33 PM, Andrew Perron wrote:
> Hwaet! I have created a link for the Legion into the greater Internet:
> http://netheroes.tumblr.com/
>
> I'm planning to post stories one chapter per day, posting full arcs and
> skipping between series, in an order that will ease people into the
> universe while showing off its breadth and depth.
>
> I'm wondering, though: Would it be okay, ethically speaking, to repost
> stories from writers who aren't around anymore? I mean, I'd put in all the
> credits, and I certainly wouldn't be making money off it... I'd assume it
> would be similar to putting it in the archives, but what do you think?
I suppose most probably don't care... though there might be someone who
> Hwaet! I have created a link for the Legion into the greater Internet:
> http://netheroes.tumblr.com/
>
> I'm planning to post stories one chapter per day, posting full arcs and
> skipping between series, in an order that will ease people into the
> universe while showing off its breadth and depth.
>
> I'm wondering, though: Would it be okay, ethically speaking, to repost
> stories from writers who aren't around anymore? I mean, I'd put in all the
> credits, and I certainly wouldn't be making money off it... I'd assume it
> would be similar to putting it in the archives, but what do you think?
would object...
Back when I reposted Saviors of the Net and Mutton Mania, no one got
upset...
>
> On the same note, might I get permission from those writers who *are*
> around to repost your stuff? (I have several specific arcs in mind
> already...)
>
> Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, not sure if he should post on
> weekends...
And for suggestions of works by people still on RACC...
Rob's Easily-Discovered Man of course...
Dave's Constellation/Dvandom Force.. (keep in mind that early on there
was a crossover between the two in Bad Forms)
Saxon's Limp Asparagus Lad...
Martin's LNH v1
Lalo's 58.5
Jamas's Fan.Boy
Russ's Drifter
Tom's Web of Mainstream Man/Master Blaster stuff
Adrian's Ultimate Mercenary
Hmm maybe a special day of the week for LNH20 and LNHY stories...
Arthur "Oh and something by Andrew..." Spitzer
Andrew Perron
May 8, 2012, 11:21:48 PM5/8/12
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On Tue, 8 May 2012 15:15:44 +0000 (UTC), Scott Eiler wrote:
> On 05/07/2012 10:33 PM, Andrew Perron wrote:
<snip>
> On 05/07/2012 10:33 PM, Andrew Perron wrote:
>> I'm wondering, though: Would it be okay, ethically speaking, to repost
>> stories from writers who aren't around anymore? I mean, I'd put in all the
>> credits, and I certainly wouldn't be making money off it... I'd assume it
>> would be similar to putting it in the archives, but what do you think?
>
> I think if it was posted to Usenet without x-no-archive, it's fair game.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking.
>> stories from writers who aren't around anymore? I mean, I'd put in all the
>> credits, and I certainly wouldn't be making money off it... I'd assume it
>> would be similar to putting it in the archives, but what do you think?
>
> I think if it was posted to Usenet without x-no-archive, it's fair game.
>> On the same note, might I get permission from those writers who *are*
>> around to repost your stuff? (I have several specific arcs in mind
>> already...)
>
> Not that I have that much to offer yet, but you got my permission.
Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, writewritewrite
Andrew Perron
May 9, 2012, 12:20:50 AM5/9/12
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On Wed, 9 May 2012 01:12:03 +0000 (UTC), Arthur Spitzer wrote:
> On 5/7/12 10:33 PM, Andrew Perron wrote:
<snip>
> On 5/7/12 10:33 PM, Andrew Perron wrote:
>> I'm wondering, though: Would it be okay, ethically speaking, to repost
>> stories from writers who aren't around anymore? I mean, I'd put in all the
>> credits, and I certainly wouldn't be making money off it... I'd assume it
>> would be similar to putting it in the archives, but what do you think?
>
> I suppose most probably don't care... though there might be someone who
> would object...
>
> Back when I reposted Saviors of the Net and Mutton Mania, no one got
> upset...
Good point. And it's not like there haven't been ways to remove the
>> stories from writers who aren't around anymore? I mean, I'd put in all the
>> credits, and I certainly wouldn't be making money off it... I'd assume it
>> would be similar to putting it in the archives, but what do you think?
>
> I suppose most probably don't care... though there might be someone who
> would object...
>
> Back when I reposted Saviors of the Net and Mutton Mania, no one got
> upset...
opportunity to do it, if one wanted. (Abhay apparently did it very
thoroughly.)
>> On the same note, might I get permission from those writers who *are*
>> around to repost your stuff? (I have several specific arcs in mind
>> already...)
>
> Yeah, sure... feel free to repost any LNH or LNHY work of mine...
Woo!
> And for suggestions of works by people still on RACC...
Oh, yes. On what to post, I have Plans. Mwahaha.
> Arthur "Oh and something by Andrew..." Spitzer
Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, well, maybe some of my one-shots before
then.
Andrew Perron
May 9, 2012, 12:23:58 AM5/9/12
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On Wed, 9 May 2012 00:46:21 +0000 (UTC), Saxon Brenton wrote:
> Scott Eiler replied:
<snip>
archives and, say, Google Groups.
> Ahem. Anyway. Feel free to repost my stuff (both stories and the meager
> few pieces of art) as it takes your fancy.
Woohoo! (Oh, yes, there will be art posted.)
Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, cackle cackle.
> Scott Eiler replied:
<snip>
>> I think if it was posted to Usenet without x-no-archive, it's fair game.
>
> I would tend to agree with that interpretation... Of course, it might be
> sophistry: One could argue that there's a difference between the immediacy
> and stumble-across-it serendipity of a tumblr and an archive...
True, but OTOH, one could argue the same for the difference between early
>
> I would tend to agree with that interpretation... Of course, it might be
> sophistry: One could argue that there's a difference between the immediacy
> and stumble-across-it serendipity of a tumblr and an archive...
archives and, say, Google Groups.
> Ahem. Anyway. Feel free to repost my stuff (both stories and the meager
> few pieces of art) as it takes your fancy.
Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, cackle cackle.
Andrew Perron
May 9, 2012, 12:47:03 AM5/9/12
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So, I believe I'm going to go forward with posts from the archives. First
up, LNH v2 #1-2, and then, 501 Blues: The Long Road Home.
Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, who's gotten actual permission for the
latter.
up, LNH v2 #1-2, and then, 501 Blues: The Long Road Home.
Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, who's gotten actual permission for the
latter.
Martin Phipps
May 9, 2012, 1:18:09 AM5/9/12
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On 5月8日, 下午1時33分, Andrew Perron <pwer...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hwaet! I have created a link for the Legion into the greater Internet:http://netheroes.tumblr.com/
>
> I'm planning to post stories one chapter per day, posting full arcs and
> skipping between series, in an order that will ease people into the
> universe while showing off its breadth and depth.
Well, here's an idea: how about links (either to the Eyrie archive,
> Hwaet! I have created a link for the Legion into the greater Internet:http://netheroes.tumblr.com/
>
> I'm planning to post stories one chapter per day, posting full arcs and
> skipping between series, in an order that will ease people into the
> universe while showing off its breadth and depth.
google groups posts or to the RACC mailing list)? If you wanted to
get really ambitious you could insert links into a timeline so people
can read stories in order.
If stories are already archived then I don't think you need any
additional permission to link to them.
Martin
Andrew Perron
May 9, 2012, 1:34:36 AM5/9/12
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On Wed, 9 May 2012 05:18:09 +0000 (UTC), Martin Phipps wrote:
> Well, here's an idea: how about links (either to the Eyrie archive,
> google groups posts or to the RACC mailing list)? If you wanted to
> get really ambitious you could insert links into a timeline so people
> can read stories in order.
>
> If stories are already archived then I don't think you need any
> additional permission to link to them.
Honestly, I think that linking isn't enough; it's one hoop too many for the
> Well, here's an idea: how about links (either to the Eyrie archive,
> google groups posts or to the RACC mailing list)? If you wanted to
> get really ambitious you could insert links into a timeline so people
> can read stories in order.
>
> If stories are already archived then I don't think you need any
> additional permission to link to them.
casual reader. Not to mention that I want to present it in a
shiny-HTMLized format, which, again, will be easier for newbies.
Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, there will definitely be links, tho.
Adrian J. McClure
May 9, 2012, 5:30:31 PM5/9/12
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I just wanted to say that this is ridiculously awesome, and you have
my approval for posting any of my works. I'm curious how you mean to
get the word out, though--Tumblr is pretty huge.
AJM (Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to new era?)
my approval for posting any of my works. I'm curious how you mean to
get the word out, though--Tumblr is pretty huge.
AJM (Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to new era?)
Andrew Perron
May 9, 2012, 9:43:11 PM5/9/12
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On Wed, 9 May 2012 21:30:31 +0000 (UTC), Adrian J. McClure wrote:
> I just wanted to say that this is ridiculously awesome, and you have
> my approval for posting any of my works. I'm curious how you mean to
> get the word out, though--Tumblr is pretty huge.
I'm not sure! Tonight, I plan to explore options for promotion.
> I just wanted to say that this is ridiculously awesome, and you have
> my approval for posting any of my works. I'm curious how you mean to
> get the word out, though--Tumblr is pretty huge.
> AJM (Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to new era?)
Arthur Spitzer
May 16, 2012, 7:42:38 PM5/16/12
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Oh and you should make the background more colorful... maybe get Wil's
permission to all that LNH cover art and wallpaper the background with it...
You can use any pictures in the LNH webcomic if you want too..
Arthur "No content today..." Spitzer
Andrew Perron
May 17, 2012, 12:28:54 AM5/17/12
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On Wed, 16 May 2012 23:42:38 +0000 (UTC), Arthur Spitzer wrote:
> On 5/8/12 9:47 PM, Andrew Perron wrote:
>> So, I believe I'm going to go forward with posts from the archives. First
>> up, LNH v2 #1-2, and then, 501 Blues: The Long Road Home.
>>
>> Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, who's gotten actual permission for the
>> latter.
>
> So, have you already run out of LNH material? :)
Argh. No, I've just been busy over the past couple days.
> On 5/8/12 9:47 PM, Andrew Perron wrote:
>> So, I believe I'm going to go forward with posts from the archives. First
>> up, LNH v2 #1-2, and then, 501 Blues: The Long Road Home.
>>
>> Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, who's gotten actual permission for the
>> latter.
>
> So, have you already run out of LNH material? :)
> Oh and you should make the background more colorful... maybe get Wil's
> permission to all that LNH cover art and wallpaper the background with it...
cover art.
> You can use any pictures in the LNH webcomic if you want too..
> Arthur "No content today..." Spitzer
Adrian J. McClure
May 17, 2012, 7:21:32 PM5/17/12
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Just wanted to say that even though it may not have reached a new
audience yet, it's nice to see these stories in a new context. I
enjoyed the introductory bits too.
As for future plans, you might consider posting Adventures of Easily-
Discovered Man and Legion of Occult Heroes.
AJM ("Last issue, the universe was destroyed.")
audience yet, it's nice to see these stories in a new context. I
enjoyed the introductory bits too.
As for future plans, you might consider posting Adventures of Easily-
Discovered Man and Legion of Occult Heroes.
AJM ("Last issue, the universe was destroyed.")
Andrew Perron
May 18, 2012, 8:31:09 AM5/18/12
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On Thu, 17 May 2012 23:21:32 +0000 (UTC), Adrian J. McClure wrote:
> Just wanted to say that even though it may not have reached a new
> audience yet, it's nice to see these stories in a new context. I
> enjoyed the introductory bits too.
Why thank you! I work hard on 'em - that's why I didn't get one posted
> Just wanted to say that even though it may not have reached a new
> audience yet, it's nice to see these stories in a new context. I
> enjoyed the introductory bits too.
last night. >->; (Gotta rebuild the queue.)
> As for future plans, you might consider posting Adventures of Easily-
> Discovered Man and Legion of Occult Heroes.
> AJM ("Last issue, the universe was destroyed.")
something more affecting than LOH #4.
Adrian J. McClure
May 19, 2012, 12:18:11 PM5/19/12
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On May 18, 8:31 am, Andrew Perron <pwer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, one of whose life goals is to write
> something more affecting than LOH #4.
I'm not sure I could survive reading something more affecting than LOH
>
> Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, one of whose life goals is to write
> something more affecting than LOH #4.
#4. :'(
Anyway, I just got the first instance of RACC-based spam in years.
Some vlogger from Youtube sent me an message asking me to "check out
my videos please :) I like being as creative as possible and would
love you guys to give me some ideas :) PLEASE SUBSCRIBE IF YOU LIKED
THEM :)" These videos had nothing to do with comics, superheroes, or
anything whatsoever to do with this group. She had a tumblr, so I'm
willing to be that she found this place from Andrew. On the other
hand, it's good that someone from outside the group is paying
attention, even if it's a spammer.
AJM (Also you should consider posting Saviors of the Net and Mutton
Mania)
Andrew Perron
May 19, 2012, 2:50:40 PM5/19/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:18:11 +0000 (UTC), Adrian J. McClure wrote:
> On May 18, 8:31�am, Andrew Perron <pwer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, one of whose life goals is to write
>> something more affecting than LOH #4.
>
> I'm not sure I could survive reading something more affecting than LOH
> #4. :'(
Don't worr, I'll write a antivenin to the meme complex first.
> On May 18, 8:31�am, Andrew Perron <pwer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, one of whose life goals is to write
>> something more affecting than LOH #4.
>
> I'm not sure I could survive reading something more affecting than LOH
> #4. :'(
> Anyway, I just got the first instance of RACC-based spam in years.
> Some vlogger from Youtube sent me an message asking me to "check out
> my videos please :) I like being as creative as possible and would
> love you guys to give me some ideas :) PLEASE SUBSCRIBE IF YOU LIKED
> THEM :)" These videos had nothing to do with comics, superheroes, or
> anything whatsoever to do with this group. She had a tumblr, so I'm
> willing to be that she found this place from Andrew. On the other
> hand, it's good that someone from outside the group is paying
> attention, even if it's a spammer.
> AJM (Also you should consider posting Saviors of the Net and Mutton
> Mania)
of Constellation -> Tsar Chasm stuff -> LNH Triple Play #1 -> Looniverse
Adrift! From there I'm not sure.
Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, build up to Retcon Hour, maybe.
Adrian J. McClure
May 19, 2012, 2:58:25 PM5/19/12
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On May 19, 2:50 pm, Andrew Perron <pwer...@gmail.com> wrote:
> AWESOME. (Sort of.)
You know, it's a little sad that we've reached the point where we're
excited to have a spammer :P
> Oh, definitely. But for this current group, I have a plan: first arc or two
> of Constellation -> Tsar Chasm stuff -> LNH Triple Play #1 -> Looniverse
> Adrift! From there I'm not sure.
>
> Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, build up to Retcon Hour, maybe.
Don't forget the early issues of EDM, since it crosses over with both
Bad Forms and Robot Invasion. Also, if you're posting Retcon Hour, you
probably want to post Retcon Midnight, and if you do that, you
probably want to post Pliable Lad. Interestingly this is pretty much
the same order I went through when I started rereading classic LNH
stuff--I wanted to go back and read all Dvandom's old stuff, and I got
drawn into all the series that crossed over with it.
AJM (also yay, Tsar Chasm)
> AWESOME. (Sort of.)
You know, it's a little sad that we've reached the point where we're
excited to have a spammer :P
> Oh, definitely. But for this current group, I have a plan: first arc or two
> of Constellation -> Tsar Chasm stuff -> LNH Triple Play #1 -> Looniverse
> Adrift! From there I'm not sure.
>
> Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, build up to Retcon Hour, maybe.
Bad Forms and Robot Invasion. Also, if you're posting Retcon Hour, you
probably want to post Retcon Midnight, and if you do that, you
probably want to post Pliable Lad. Interestingly this is pretty much
the same order I went through when I started rereading classic LNH
stuff--I wanted to go back and read all Dvandom's old stuff, and I got
drawn into all the series that crossed over with it.
AJM (also yay, Tsar Chasm)
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