TV and Books
David J. Loftus
I wonder how well television is relating to books these days? I don't
mean the classic new-author-or-tired-celeb-hawking-his/her-tome-on-the-
Today-show, but actual discussion of the contents of books, the
experience of great ones, new or old.
I hear talk about special shows devoted to books on obscure cable
channels, but haven't seen one.
Except when I was traveling in the DC/southwestern Penn area in late
April of last year and caught part of an all-day series of hour-long
shows devoted to various books on the Discovery channel. I saw a
delightful hour on _Catch-22_, with clips from the movie, on-camera
remarks by Heller, Mike Nichols, the editors/agents who first worked with
the manuscript, and even a WWII bombardier or two. I wouldn't mind
obtaining a copy of that video.
Has anyone else seen that particular vid or something like the sustained,
focused attention to a book on television that I'm talking about?
David Loftus
midtown neon
("that I'm talking about?" -- DJL)
not to pretend that I know what you're talking about,
but "here" (I don't know 'where' you are, either) on PBS we get Voices
and Visions,
Authors, Reading, News Writing, Authors and Critics, among this week's
offerings. it's not all just The Antiques Road Show.
also, there are the occasional government and junior college station
programs, in the same vein.
but, Loftus, why do you ask? we thought that you were beyond and above
TV-watching. is it for a friend?
neon, m.
jennifer allee
> but "here" (I don't know 'where' you are, either) on PBS we get Voices
> and Visions,
I got a Voices and Visions video from the library once, it was amazing.
Wonder if it's the same thing? Guess I'll have to shell out the $2 or
whatever a TV guide is and start watching PBS more often.
jennifer
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Jeffrey Davis
>
>
> Has anyone else seen that particular vid or something like the sustained,
Tooting of the family horn:
My wife has produced a series of shows, the Signature series, which have
made PBS's national distribution channel. They focus on Kentucky and
Southern regional writers. Lee Smith, Barbara Kingsolver, Bobbie Ann
Mason...people like that.
--
Jeffrey Davis <da...@ca.uky.edu>
Thank you, Madam, the agony is somewhat abated.
william r smith
Guess I'll have to shell out the $2 or whatever a TV guide is
and start watching PBS more often.
Even better shell out $35 to your local PBS station, instead of $104
for a year's worth of TV Guide. The local station will send you
a monthly program listing.
William Sburgfort Smith
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fido
> In article jennifer allee wrote:
>
> Guess I'll have to shell out the $2 or whatever a TV guide is
> and start watching PBS more often.
>
>
>
> Even better shell out $35 to your local PBS station, instead of $104
> for a year's worth of TV Guide. The local station will send you
> a monthly program listing.
Or do what cheapskates like myself do - check it all out on the web.
--
fido
jennifer allee
Very good ideas, both of you. As a one-time and will do it again telethon helper,
I'm all for sending PBS money.
But then again, I'm so cheap I don't even get the newspaper (why? with cnn online?)
so I'll probably end up doing the online thing. I hope the PBS format is as nice as
A&E's....not that I have cable! :) I make my Dad tape stuff for me!
jennifer
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Ra...@webtv.net
I hear talk about special shows devoted to books on obscure cable
channels, but haven't seen one.
publishers, etc.
A & E also has shows about books and their authors.
PBS is always a good place to check for such programs.
.
Joann Zimmerman
> Very good ideas, both of you. As a one-time and will do it again telethon helper,
> I'm all for sending PBS money.
It's pledge week again in these parts, and I'm sure as hell not gonna
send them any money *this* year. "The Wisdom of Menopause", that 3-part
thing about financial disaster, and tonight's _piece de resistance_,
"Andrew Lloyd Webber 50th Birthday Celebration"? I should feel inspired
to greater heights of giving by *these*? I've been pointedly watching
"Lonely Planet" instead. Apparently we're being threatened; our TVs are
being held hostage. I can only conclude that if I don't contribute,
they'll continue to run this dreck. Well, I refuse to be blackmailed or
whatever the correct technical description of this crime is, and return
to fervent and frequent prayers for the local advent of BBC America
(fat chance!)
--
"I never understood people who don't have
bookshelves." --George Plimpton
Joann Zimmerman jz...@harrispk.com
Maureen Scobie
>
> In article <37BC94C6...@414.org>, mig...@414.org wrote:
> > Very good ideas, both of you. As a one-time and will do it again telethon helper,
> > I'm all for sending PBS money.
>
> It's pledge week again in these parts, and I'm sure as hell not gonna
> send them any money *this* year. "The Wisdom of Menopause", that 3-part
> thing about financial disaster, and tonight's _piece de resistance_,
> "Andrew Lloyd Webber 50th Birthday Celebration"? I should feel inspired
> to greater heights of giving by *these*? I've been pointedly watching
> "Lonely Planet" instead.
Watching _Lonely Planet_ is not a bad choice. I would like to point out,
however, that I am adopting Ian Wright as soon as the paperwork is
completed!
Maureen
Book: Roar Hauglid, _Norwegian Stave Churches_ (1990.)
John S. Watson
>
>Watching _Lonely Planet_ is not a bad choice. I would like to point out,
>however, that I am adopting Ian Wright as soon as the paperwork is
>completed!
When, where and what is _Lonely Planet_ anyway?
Does it have anything to to with the travel guides of the same name?
John Watson
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http://george.arc.nasa.gov/~watson
HOMEBREW NAKED!
Joann Zimmerman
> Watching _Lonely Planet_ is not a bad choice. I would like to point out,
> however, that I am adopting Ian Wright as soon as the paperwork is
> completed!
You can have him. My husband and I, apropos of the "Take-a-Fan-to-Work"
sweeps which we neither of us (to my knowledge, anyway) entered,
concluded that we'd both prefer to take a trip with Justime. Ian gets a
bit wearing after a time. So limit your custodial visits.
> Book: Roar Hauglid, _Norwegian Stave Churches_ (1990.)
Do they have paintings inside?
Joann Zimmerman
wat...@george.arc.nasa.gov wrote:
> When, where and what is _Lonely Planet_ anyway?
> Does it have anything to to with the travel guides of the same name?
Yes. The show is produced by the same company/group/whatever.
Each hour-long show features one of several young persons who is shown
visiting a country or area and getting, umm, off the beaten path, at
least sometimes. The thing I love about it is the fudging of the
required presence of one or more camera crew, which makes some of the
"spontaneous" encounters, particularly with highly fortuitous
transport, seem a trifle suspect.
You'll find it on the Travel Channel.
I have discovered many bizarre things, including that Greenlanders and
Icelanders have an absolutely disgusting sense of humor when it comes
to unusual foods.
David J. Loftus
: David?J.?Loftus (dl...@netcom17.netcom.com) wrote:
Thanks.
Such I am such an "avid" TV watcher (reference to the quotation marks
thread), I have not tracked down such shows.
David Loftus
David J. Loftus
: but, Loftus, why do you ask? we thought that you were beyond and above
: TV-watching. is it for a friend?
Obviously not.
But I see you don't read any better than most of us on this newsgroup.
Since it turns out your reference the other day to my supposed remark that
you had something to hide involved a private post -- in response to a
question you had posted to me privately -- and then involved an
imputation to me of notions I did not possess (if you read the post
again, you'll see I was offering possible reasons that other people
might think thus and such of you), I'm rapidly losing my inclination to
pass over most of your posts in indulgent silence....
David Loftus
irinab
wrote:
> It's pledge week again in these parts, and I'm sure as hell not gonna
> send them any money *this* year. "The Wisdom of Menopause", that 3-part
> thing about financial disaster, and tonight's _piece de resistance_,
> "Andrew Lloyd Webber 50th Birthday Celebration"? I should feel inspired
> to greater heights of giving by *these*? I've been pointedly watching
> "Lonely Planet" instead. Apparently we're being threatened; our TVs are
> being held hostage. I can only conclude that if I don't contribute,
> they'll continue to run this dreck.
Amen. Our stations' pledge drive programming, _Viewers' Choice_,
(Andre Bocelli; that annoying little girl soprano, I forget her name;
and of course the menopause show) would be more aptly named in ironic
quotes.
-Irina.
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Maureen Scobie
>
> > Book: Roar Hauglid, _Norwegian Stave Churches_ (1990.)
>
> Do they have paintings inside?
Yes. Hauglid's book includes many photographs (about 70 pages.) There is
a short text. The caption for one colour photograph: "Udval Church,
Numedal. Central-column construction from the middle of the 13th
century. Painted decor from the 17th and 18th centuries." There is a lot
of woodcarving, especially of doors.
Maureen
midtown neon
another field for study: Norway Enslaved by Sweden. "Just when I
thought I was out of it, I get pulled back in again."
neon, m.
tejas
They call this painting "rosenmalerie" or something like that..
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Maureen Scobie
>
> Maureen Scobie wrote:
> >
> > Joann Zimmerman wrote:
> > >
> > > > Book: Roar Hauglid, _Norwegian Stave Churches_ (1990.)
> > >
> > > Do they have paintings inside?
> >
> > Yes. Hauglid's book includes many photographs (about 70 pages.) There is
> > a short text. The caption for one colour photograph: "Udval Church,
> > Numedal. Central-column construction from the middle of the 13th
> > century. Painted decor from the 17th and 18th centuries." There is a lot
> > of woodcarving, especially of doors.
>
> They call this painting "rosenmalerie" or something like that..
I checked by way of AltaVista and found "rosemaling." It is said to be
a folk art of flower painting dating from around 1750 in Norway.
The paintings in the Norwegian stave churches, going by the photographs
in Hauglid's book, appear to be of Christian religious scenes and are
not "floral" as in the rosemaling decoration of household objects. The
woodcarving, on church doors, pews, arches, etc. combines pre-Christian
dragon motifs with Christian elements. There is a lot of curling vine
patterns, too.
My uninformed guess is that rosemaling and church narrative painting
might be distinguished one from t'other.
Maureen
Kjetil Svarstad
> [...]
> My uninformed guess is that rosemaling and church narrative painting
> might be distinguished one from t'other.
This is definitely correct. As you hinted, rosemaling is a household
decoration technique, and would not be a natural part of a stave
church. The ages also differ. Rosemaling was used as one of the
typical domestic folkloristic "art" forms when the nationstate
building process of the late 18th and early 19th century started. All
things national were then mixed together into a strange stew to
further some national identity, and in the end further the
establishment of nationally based armies instead of the hired armies
of oldened times. Them french guys have a lot to answer for...but I
digress.
Ranting and raving,
Kjetil
David J. Loftus
Organization:
tejas <tbsa...@richmond.infi.net> wrote:
: Maureen Scobie wrote:
:>
:> Joann Zimmerman wrote:
:> >
:> > > Book: Roar Hauglid, _Norwegian Stave Churches_ (1990.)
:> >
:> > Do they have paintings inside?
:>
:> Yes. Hauglid's book includes many photographs (about 70 pages.) There is
:> a short text. The caption for one colour photograph: "Udval Church,
:> Numedal. Central-column construction from the middle of the 13th
:> century. Painted decor from the 17th and 18th centuries." There is a lot
:> of woodcarving, especially of doors.
: They call this painting "rosenmalerie" or something like that..
ObSong: "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" ... "rosenmalerie, screaming from the
gallery...."
David Loftus
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"David J. Loftus" <dl...@netcom17.netcom.com> wrote:
>I have seen lots of "the-making-of" in regards to famous books or maybe
even a treatment of a famous (read good) book, but not to much about the
art of reading, et al. Other than "Reading Rainbow", I think an emphasis
on reading is kind of a bite the hand that feeds me for most television
producers. They are not opposed to using books as inspiration for their
medium, however. For this, I am grateful because we do get books in some
form or fashion. In agreement with your idea, I wish there was a forum
for discussion about our favorite writings...although,granted, even
television was first the written word.
> I wonder how well television is relating to books these days? I don't
> mean the classic
new-author-or-tired-celeb-hawking-his/her-tome-on-the-
> Today-show, but actual discussion of the contents of books, the
> experience of great ones, new or old.
>
> I hear talk about special shows devoted to books on obscure cable
> channels, but haven't seen one.
>
> Except when I was traveling in the DC/southwestern Penn area in late
> April of last year and caught part of an all-day series of hour-long
> shows devoted to various books on the Discovery channel. I saw a
> delightful hour on _Catch-22_, with clips from the movie, on-camera
> remarks by Heller, Mike Nichols, the editors/agents who first worked
with
> the manuscript, and even a WWII bombardier or two. I wouldn't mind
> obtaining a copy of that video.
>
> Has anyone else seen that particular vid or something like the
sustained,
> focused attention to a book on television that I'm talking about?
>
> David Loftus