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Arindam Banerjee

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Dec 25, 2009, 7:14:45 AM12/25/09
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Thanks a lot, Kanga, for your interest. My comments within.

"kangarooistan" <kangaro...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 22, 7:50 pm, "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Einstein's theories of relativity are totally bullshit. How long this
> lucrative charade with continue, is ultimately up to the public and their
> reps to decide.
> Cheers,
HI Arindam Banerjee
>
> Check out the Hydrogen Transmission Network:
> http://adda-enterprises.com/htnwebsite/home.htm
>
GREAT site mate , lays it all out very nicely

AB: Thanks, thanks. Please, all folks, do post your comments in the Contact
Us page. That will help us to get funding for a pilot project, from
financial institutions.

It should be easy to set up a working house / farm / factory , there
is only the costs , the science is well understood

Eventually mass production will make it cheaper and cheaper and
cheaper
its clean and green , pity the BIG boys wont like losing CONTROL of
the energy and water markets

AB: Well, control is not just for some people for all time. Other interests
will be there. Mining interests for water and energy. Real estate
interests for land that has got water and electricity on a secure basis. The
alternative to laying HV lines and water pipes are now 90% cheaper, with the
HTN. In all hot countries, it will be great, especially if they have the
sea near. In Russia, with nuclear power, they can melt the permafrost,
convert it into hydrogen and pipe same. In India, they have not got
electricity all over the country for various reasons - one reason is poor
metering. People steal. With the HTN, it is pilfer proof, cheap. gives
water as by product... Easy to install, easy to maintain, very green all
the way!


the basic method of generating electricity by any available method ,
and using this to produce Hydrogen gas , is a very well established
and understood fact

ANYBODY can make hydrogen gas at home , simply trapping the gas given
off by a car battery is the basic method

AB: Won't be enough for your needs. The HTN will give you as much hydrogen
as you want for your water and power needs. You will get much more power
than you need if you buy enough Hydrogen for your water needs, and then you
can sell the surplus electricity to any utility. So there is a big switch
happening. Your polluting plants are replaced by suburbs generating
electricity on the whole, and supplying industry with same.

WHY transport the gas anywhere ??

AB: Transportation of H is lossless unlike HV transmission. We can design
it that way. We transport the gas as it is produced in areas where there is
no habitation - like in the desert by the sea, or brackish water, etc. Or
in a nuclear plant by the sea, far away from towns. Or in the Russia/Canada
case, a nuclear plant on the permafrost. All the hydrogen produced in a
region or set of regions can be linked up in the HTN which is a NETWORK.
The idea is to give the hydrogen fuel cheaply, reliably, as much as
necessary and for ever to everyone - in due course. Only a *network*, with
sharing, buffering, control, regulation, metering etc. can do this. Mate, I
have worked for Telstra for 16+ years and I have been infused by the
socialist ideals of Telstra which existed prior to Keating and Mr Frank
Blunt. So, the idea then (during the Mel Ward regime) was that EVERY
Australian home MUST have telephone connection! Now, that was some ideal!
See the practical effects of idealism? It is the source of all the economic
progress, not that the extinct Telstra researchers/workers did very well for
themselves though. Still, I do not see why this sort of idealism must
*completely* give way to Rand-Reaganism concepts like trickle-down (only a
few haves will have practically all and the rest will have to lick their
boots for crumbs) for ever and ever. Surely, there has to be a LEEETIL bit
of idealism still left in the Australian public mind, even after the effect
of Keating and his successors?

Why not simply produce the hydrogen where and in volumes needed ,
store it until needed in standard old fashioned gas tanks / upside
down rubbish bin floating on water with a brick on top WORKS

AB: Point is, how will you create the hydrogen where needed? You need an
energy source that is unlimited - sun, wind, nuclear, coal, geothermal. Now
these primary sources have to be converted into some form - usually this is
electicity. Instead of electricity, our Adda proposal is to make it
hydrogen, and transmit it with a piping network. To various destinations.
Now, usually the sources I have named are far away from consumption centres,
and there is a lack of proportion. If you had a solar farm in the desert
you could be self sufficient of course, but even then you would not get a
reliable source as there is night, cloud, etc. So with a network what
happens is that when one source is down, another is up, and finally there is
buffer storage. So you get a regular supply.

No pipeline needed

recycle the water , means no sea water is either

Hydrogen gas is EASY to make , burning the hydrogen gas produces water
as a by product

its been done every time you charge a car battery

AB: Look, you need fuel to run the car which then charges your battery.
Yes, hydrogen is created by electrolysis, and this is a very old and very
well-known method. It can be used mass-scale. But, hydrogen can also be
made from coal (pass steam over hot coal, and you get carbon monoxide and
hydrogen, and this is known as coal gas) and oil, and even algae. You make
hydrogen, and transmit it around. Instead of a store and carry system, you
have a flow system, where most hydrogen is consumed by users about as soon
as it is produced. Very efficient, especially since hydrogen flows so fast.
Very useful on the hills, you can energise the hills and also give them
fresh water. Real estate sales will boom, there will be lots of employment!

your concept needs no TRIAL , every high school science student KNOWS
it works

thats WHY they will NEVER support you AB

they dont want FREE energy

AB: Who knows, what will happen in the future? Look here, in 1987 I
published a paper that anticipated google search engines in a US conference.
I knew that one day we would have such search engines, but I never thought
it would be this soon. Based upon that experience, I think we will have the
HTN within 10-20 years. The big boys gotta sort out ways to make profit
from the HTN - from real estate sales, mining, farming, fuel,
transportation, new engines, new infrastructure. These will be the
primaries upon which the other stuff - banking, insurance, services,
construction, education etc. will follow. I think the whole world will
change for the better with the HTN. Just that, with the minds of people
totally screwed up by the bollocks theories of Einstein, they have become
such cowards and fools, they cannot see the worth of anything really good.
Stuff must be incomprehensible, and supported *only* by the venerated
conpersons in academia and govt., for acceptablity in the public mind. So
you see, how vitally necessary it is for me to make a model of the Internal
Force Engine? When that is done, then they will have to accept the new
physics, and once that is done, nothing can stop progress on earth and in
outer space. Will happen mate, for the big boys are not bigger than God.

they WANT MAXIMUM profits for ruling elites mate

AB: True.

they will NEVER let the people get FREE ENERGY mate

AB: Nor free anything.

the capitalist system doen NOT support such simple methods mate

AB: Ah, but the cannibal swine when they become too big cannot move too
fast, and smaller swine then devour it. When the small cannibal swine find
a way to become bigger, with the HTN say, one can confidently expect them to
devour the huge obstructive swine. In a swinish world, what else is to be
expected?

the masses MUST be controlledby retaining control of water power and
food

AB: And their minds most importantly.

NOTHING will get funded that reduces the rulung elites control mate

AB: True, else why should they be ruling? My point is, that the ruling
elites will not lose out at all with the HTN. It will enlarge the wealth
for all, and if they play along, they too will benefit.

thats WHY Im a socialist , we need to wait until the capitalists bleed
the people to their knees before the sheeple will turn OFF THE TV and
ask the experts to explain how come they are stuffing up the planet
when the CURES are so CHEAP and so EASY

AB: I cannot say the cures are cheap and easy, only cheaper and easier. The
HTN will require a great deal of research, experimentation and development.
It is a new technology on the whole, though it is based upon proven
technologies, and in fact brings them all together harmoniously. We have to
do work in solar collectors, pumps, hydrogen piping, metering, etc. A lot
of work left, and plenty of engineers and planners will be very gainfully
employed. Yes a socialist system will help enormously, because only a
socialist system can put in the amount of resources required for the HTN
without seeking instant returns like capitalists do. So I think, that
ultimately socialist countries like India and China will be most interested
in this.

like global warming CAN be cured for free by RESTORING iron levels to
the oceans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_fertilization

and Hydrogen gas can be made by anybody anywhere
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water

AB: Yes, but you need fuel to begin with. And that is exactly the rub.
Developed countries already have fuel, electricity and pure water, so the
HTN does not appeal to them - naturally. But for poor countries, developing
countries, socialist countries, and countries like Australia which has a lot
of sea and sand, and Russia too, it is IDEAL.

no need to pump it far , make it on site IMHO seems best

store it in tanks like fuel tanks until needed

AB: Hydrogen under pressure leaks a lot, and that is a major disadvantage of
H. Adda says you use it almost as soon as it is produced, saving storage
loss, and with the HTN cut down on conventional road/rail transportation
completely.

kanga
=====

AB: Dear Kanga, thanks for your interest.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee.


kangarooistan

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Jan 3, 2010, 3:06:10 AM1/3/10
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> news:a34929c8-ec29-426c...@k32g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 22, 7:50 pm, "ArindamBanerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:> Einstein's theories of relativity are totally bullshit. How long this

> > lucrative charade with continue, is ultimately up to the public and their
> > reps to decide.
> > Cheers,
HI Arindam Banerjee
>
> > Check out the Hydrogen Transmission Network:
> >http://adda-enterprises.com/htnwebsite/home.htm
>
GREAT site mate , lays it all out very nicely , sounds like the way
to go

>
> AB: Thanks, thanks.  Please, all folks, do post your comments in the Contact
> Us page.  That will help us to get funding for a pilot project, from
> financial institutions.
>
> It should be easy to set up a working house / farm / factory , there
> is only the costs , the science is well understood
>
> Eventually mass production will make it cheaper and cheaper and
> cheaper
> its clean and green , pity the BIG boys wont like losing CONTROL of
> the energy and water markets
>
> AB: Well, control is not just for some people for all time.  Other interests
> will be there.  Mining interests for water and energy.  Real estate
> interests for land that has got water and electricity on a secure basis. The
> alternative to laying HV lines and water pipes are now 90% cheaper, with theHTN.  In all hot countries, it will be great, especially if they have the

> sea near.  In Russia, with nuclear power, they can melt the permafrost,
> convert it into hydrogen and pipe same.  In India, they have not got
> electricity all over the country for various reasons - one reason is poor
> metering. People steal.  With theHTN, it is pilfer proof, cheap. gives

> water as by product...  Easy to install, easy to maintain, very green all
> the way!
>
> the basic method of generating electricity by any available method ,
> and using this to produce Hydrogen gas , is a very well established
> and understood fact
>
> ANYBODY can make hydrogen gas at home , simply  trapping the gas given
> off by a car battery is the basic method
>
> AB: Won't be enough for your needs.  TheHTNwill give you as much hydrogen

> as you want for your water and power needs.  You will get much more power
> than you need if you buy enough Hydrogen for your water needs, and then you
> can sell the surplus electricity to any utility.  So there is a big switch
> happening.  Your polluting plants are replaced by suburbs generating
> electricity on the whole, and supplying industry with same.
>
> WHY transport the gas anywhere ??
>
> AB: Transportation of H is lossless unlike HV transmission.  We can design
> it that way.  We transport the gas as it is produced in areas where there is
> no habitation - like in the desert by the sea, or brackish water, etc.  Or
> in a nuclear plant by the sea, far away from towns.  Or in the Russia/Canada
> case, a nuclear plant on the permafrost.  All the hydrogen produced in a
> region or set of regions can be linked up in theHTNwhich is a NETWORK.
> it would be this soon.  Based upon that experience, I think we will have theHTNwithin 10-20 years.  The big boys gotta sort out ways to make profit
> from theHTN- from real estate sales, mining, farming, fuel,

> transportation, new engines, new infrastructure.  These will be the
> primaries upon which the other stuff - banking, insurance, services,
> construction, education etc. will follow.  I think the whole world will
> change for the better with theHTN.  Just that, with the minds of people

> totally screwed up by the bollocks theories of Einstein, they have become
> such cowards and fools, they cannot see the worth of anything really good.
> Stuff must be incomprehensible, and supported *only* by the venerated
> conpersons in academia and govt., for acceptablity in the public mind.  So
> you see, how vitally necessary it is for me to make a model of the Internal
> Force Engine?  When that is done, then they will have to accept the new
> physics, and once that is done, nothing can stop progress on earth and in
> outer space.  Will happen mate, for the big boys are not bigger than God.
>
> they WANT MAXIMUM profits for ruling elites mate
>
> AB: True.
>
> they will NEVER let the people get FREE ENERGY mate
>
> AB: Nor free anything.
>
> the capitalist system doen NOT support such simple methods mate
>
> AB: Ah, but the cannibal swine when they become too big cannot move too
> fast, and smaller swine then devour it.  When the small cannibal swine find
> a way to become bigger, with theHTNsay, one can confidently expect them to

> devour the huge obstructive swine.  In a swinish world, what else is to be
> expected?
>
> the masses MUST be controlledby retaining control of water power and
> food
>
> AB: And their minds most importantly.
>
> NOTHING will get funded that reduces the rulung elites control mate
>
> AB: True, else why should they be ruling?  My point is, that the ruling
> elites will not lose out at all with theHTN.  It will enlarge the wealth

> for all, and if they play along, they too will benefit.
>
> thats WHY Im a socialist , we need to wait until the capitalists bleed
> the people to their knees before the sheeple will turn OFF THE TV and
> ask the experts to explain how come they are stuffing up the planet
> when the CURES are so CHEAP and so EASY
>
> AB: I cannot say the cures are cheap and easy, only cheaper and easier.  TheHTNwill require a great deal of research, experimentation and development.

> It is a new technology on the whole, though it is based upon proven
> technologies, and in fact brings them all together harmoniously.  We have to
> do work in solar collectors, pumps, hydrogen piping, metering, etc.  A lot
> of work left, and plenty of engineers and planners will be very gainfully
> employed.  Yes a socialist system will help enormously, because only a
> socialist system can put in the amount of resources required for theHTN
> without seeking instant returns like capitalists do.  So I think, that
> ultimately socialist countries like India and China will be most interested
> in this.
>
> like global warming CAN be cured for free by RESTORING iron levels to
> the oceanshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_fertilization
>
>  and Hydrogen gas can be made by anybody anywherehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water

>
> AB: Yes, but you need fuel to begin with.  And that is exactly the rub.
> Developed countries already have fuel, electricity and pure water, so theHTNdoes not appeal to them - naturally. But for poor countries, developing

> countries, socialist countries, and countries like Australia which has a lot
> of sea and ...
>
> read more »

Bob Hawke

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Cartoonist home attacker had 'terror links'
2 january, 2010

Danish police said they shot and wounded a Somali man with Al Qaeda links
when he tried to break into the home of a cartoonist whose 2005 caricatures
of Prophet Mohammad outraged many Muslims.

The 28-year-old man, armed with a knife and axe, failed to get into Kurt
Westergaard's home in the town of Aarhus late on Friday and was shot in the
leg and hand after he threw the axe at a policeman, a police spokesman said.

The man, who was now under arrest, had "close ties to the Somali terror
organisation Al Shabaab as well as to Al Qaeda leaders in East Africa," the
Danish Security and Intelligence Service PET said in a statement.

It said the man, who had a legal residence permit for Denmark, was also
"suspected of being involved in terror-related activities in East Africa".

The security service said the man, who would be charged with attempting to
kill Mr Westergaard and the police officer, had been involved in a
"terror-related network" that has long been under investigation in
connection with threats to Mr Westergaard.

"PET looks very seriously upon this case which once again confirms the
terror threat directed against Denmark and the cartoonist Kurt Westergaard
in particular," PET chief Jakob Scharf said in the statement.

Mr Westergaard was not hurt in the incident, a police spokesman said.

He said police were still investigating whether the Somali man acted alone.

Last year US authorities arrested two men in Chicago who were suspected of
planning attacks on Mr Westergaard and his newspaper Jyllands-Posten, which
published the caricatures of Prophet Mohammed.

Bob Hawke

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Skitskin moslem CA Fabian, 5 Pfeiffer Close, Mt Barker, 5251, South
Australia, +61 8 8391 1292

Imagine some poor abbo gin asleep under a tree. Along comes this dirty
filthy Paki camel driver.

He spots the gin and seeing that her fanny is fly-blown, decides to give her
one up the arse.

Some of his spunk seeps through and a few months later Malcom Fabian enters
the world through that fly blown orifice.

At birth Malcom received a good dose of blow fly eggs and freshly hatched
maggots.

It is a well known fact that abbos are not known for their bravery. In fact
history has proven that they are culturally a COWARDLY race.

Hence their propensity to beat up old ladies, rape and even murder them.
History can provide numerous instances of this.

Now lets look at Malcom's Paki heritage.

It is also a well documented fact that Pakis are not the bravest souls on
this earth. In fact they are a down right cowardly lot. Hence there
propensity to blow other people up with bombs strapped to themselves.

Just look at recent events in India where Paki trained and bred Islamic shit
massacared dozens of innocent civilians in Mumbai, India.

Now when you put these two lots of genes together you end up with a super
cowardly race of individuals just like Malcom Fabian of 5 Pfieffer Court, Mt
Barker, South Australia.

Malcom sees NOTHING WRONG with Islamic radicals like this arselifter at Fort
Hood, Nidal Malik Hasan, who murdered more than a dozen individuals. Malcom
in fact applauds this COWARDLY action.

Malcom's dementure is further exacerbated by the fact that he has become
obsessed by the Islam cult and as a result of his arselifting ways, the blow
flies have thrived in his arse especially due to the fact that there are
numerous TAG-NUTS surrounding his un-wiped arse.

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