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sirb...@hotmail.com

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Apr 3, 2007, 3:11:59 AM4/3/07
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my favourite's donald duck

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Duck

much better than the innovative-only-cuz-nobody-else-could-be-that-
boring-karl-popper-and-thomas-kuhn-bunch.

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*Anarcissie*

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Apr 3, 2007, 10:48:36 AM4/3/07
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On Apr 3, 10:24 am, d...@no.email.thankstospam.net (DK) wrote:

> In article <1175584319.800441.140...@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, sirbl...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >my favourite's donald duck
>
> For me, it's a tough call between Tony Gaza and Donald Duck


It might be interesting to see an imaginative answer to the troll.
"Donald Duck", "Micky Mouse", "Tony Gaza", "George W. Bush"
and so on are pretty obvious.

Frank R.A.J. Maloney

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Apr 3, 2007, 1:28:20 PM4/3/07
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What would be truly refreshing is if everyone ignored trolls and made no
response at all.

--
Frank in Seattle
____

Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
"Millennium hand and shrimp."

*Anarcissie*

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Apr 3, 2007, 2:33:05 PM4/3/07
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On Apr 3, 1:28 pm, "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" <f...@blarg.net> wrote:
> *Anarcissie* wrote:
> > On Apr 3, 10:24 am, d...@no.email.thankstospam.net (DK) wrote:
> >> In article <1175584319.800441.140...@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, sirbl...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>> my favourite's donald duck
> >> For me, it's a tough call between Tony Gaza and Donald Duck
>
> > It might be interesting to see an imaginative answer to the troll.
> > "Donald Duck", "Micky Mouse", "Tony Gaza", "George W. Bush"
> > and so on are pretty obvious.
>
> What would be truly refreshing is if everyone ignored trolls and made no
> response at all.

Sometimes you can use a troll as a stepping-stone to
something worthwhile.


Derek Janssen

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Apr 3, 2007, 2:41:27 PM4/3/07
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And still get mud on your shoe.

Derek Janssen (Succeed, don't feed![TM])
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enki

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Apr 3, 2007, 9:13:32 PM4/3/07
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It is so hard to choose a favorite because all of them have something
different to say, there are some I find more intersting than others.
The ones I like are Aristotle, Spinoza, Hume, Kant and Nietzsche

Immortalist

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Apr 3, 2007, 10:37:22 PM4/3/07
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But those popperKuhnians use the same reasoning powers and even
methods as the duck or Sherlock Homes, loc.

The hypothetical-deductive method (HD method) is a very important
method for testing theories or hypotheses. It is sometimes said to be
"the scientific method". This is not quite correct because surely
there are many methods being used in scientific research. In any case,
the application of the hypothetical-deductive method can be divided
into four stages :

Identify the theory or the hypothesis
to be tested.

Generate predications from the theory.

Use experiments to check whether
predictions are correct.

Reject or modify theory, or declare that
theory has been confirmed.

http://philosophy.hku.hk/think/sci/hd.php

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.philosophy/msg/d18cc83c892b7956
http://images.google.com/images?q=spock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Wilhelm_Friedrich_Hegel

J Seymour MacNicely

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Apr 4, 2007, 4:17:09 AM4/4/07
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On Apr 3, 2:11 am, sirbl...@hotmail.com wrote:

Lars Von Trier. I will be shelving my DVD of *Dogville* right next to
my collection of Kierkegaard--and not because of the Danish thing. I
could shove a Danish roll in there for that.

But what would make a worthy place-holder for Dogville, when I take it
out to study it again, to get more out of that dialogue in the
limousine between Grace and The Big Man? No, it will not be
Nietzsche's Twilight of the Idols that I will slide in--it would not
be weighty enough in substance to serve the space.

So I realize there is no one work of the philosophical literature
suited to the purpose, it would take a whole raft of things . . .

1. Sidney Lumet's *The Pawnbroker*
2. Kesey's *Cuckoo Nest*
3. The Diary of Anne Frank
4. Arthur Penn's *Mickey One*

But if I'm trying to make a point by only so much as that, I've
failed. I would have to direct and digitally record a little theater,
hyper-Brechtian production of Dogville, and do all the costume design
myself to really get it right . . .

Wardrobe for the Nicole Kidman part of "Grace" will be sewn from the
blood-stained, shrapnel-perforated clothing of Tel Aviv wedding party
guests, brides, grooms, rabbis, favorite aunts and uncles. The
townspeople's attire would be cut from the pages of the Washington
Post and the New Republic, and from the cloth of every European,
North, Central and South American flag.

But for the James Caan part of the big-time gangster--that will be
tough because it's downright impossible to imagine God, the Father as
to how he would dress. Try to picture it for a second--God in a pope
hat? In a lace Cardinal's apron? Oy! Okay, so how about Von Trier's
character of the "Big Man" in a white shirt with an over-starched, up-
curled collar, ear-locks and a black fedora?

Hey! The choices are few--unless you can imagine the Father God of
like, Exodus going around in a get-up like Mahatma Gandhi. Eh? or
Osama bin Laden? Forget about it. The business-minded God who inspired
Steve Jobs and the Woz to invent the personal computer would not wear
sandals. No, not God the Father, and much as he would get a big kick
out of the hippies, enjoy long weird talks with them when they get
high on peyote and DMT he would not get caught dead in a headband and
tie-dyed t-shirt. So . . .

The God who inspired Al Gore to 'invent' the Internet would not dress
like Al Gore, or look like Dennis Kucinich. He would look like Marlon
Brando in the Godfather. Who else? The God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,
and Moses *is* the Godfather. He makes his enemies to sleep with the
fishes at the bottom of the Suez Canal, or to wash up flattened like
flounder on the beaches of Tyre and Sidon.

But if sometimes he looks and laughs and sings and dances just like
"Tevye" from Fiddler on the Roof--you should make no mistake; he
offers a proposition that you can't refuse: do *not* mess with his
Family, whether that of his patriarchs or of his Son.

And the day of the Dogville reckoning for all those who treat the
Daughter of Zion as they do, thinking themselves very smart to go
about all gussied up in a pope hat fashioned from the pages of Nation
magazine; be apprised of one thing: your dogs will go into heaven
before a bunch of dunces like you. :-)
--
Mackie
http://whosenose.blogspot.com
http://vignettes-mackie.blogspot.com

sirb...@hotmail.com

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Apr 5, 2007, 12:37:31 AM4/5/07
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tohentoon

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Apr 19, 2007, 1:54:57 PM4/19/07
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IMOP:

This selection is agreeable, while not unique nor forced

Select e.g. instead Anaximander, Leibniz, F.P.Ramsey and Bradley or
another sequence of that level ..
Any selection fits, as long,as we gain a lot in (virtuial) dialogue
with them. But of course, not all are as well suited.

Thus, while worth studying anyway, I won't select as leading
Seneca, Schopenhauer, Wittgenstein, Dubislav

Regards

Grendel

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Apr 19, 2007, 2:58:41 PM4/19/07
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Probably Socrates, who said, "I drank what?!?!"

Actually, my fav philosopher is Solomon Short who, while fictitious,
has some pretty insightful philosophy.

Another great one is Douglas Adams.

Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.

"You can't win. You can't break even. And you can't even quit the
game. And you don't get to riffle through the deck afterward to see
how you should have plaiyed the and."-Solomon Short.

bob600

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Apr 19, 2007, 4:07:35 PM4/19/07
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Bob600 replies:- Bob Dylan

V

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Apr 20, 2007, 9:09:00 AM4/20/07
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Have many favorites.

Top ones are:

Socrates, Plato and Aristotle as well as Thoreau.

If I have to pick one...Socrates (whom we only know through Plato)

Take care,


V (Male)

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Paulo Hendler

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Apr 20, 2007, 9:45:21 AM4/20/07
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ME

Francis A. Miniter

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Apr 20, 2007, 10:43:00 PM4/20/07
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In aorder:

1. Plato
2. Kierkegaard


Francis A. Miniter

knucmo

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Apr 30, 2007, 7:26:34 PM4/30/07
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On 3 Apr, 08:11, sirbl...@hotmail.com wrote:

Easier to name those who aren't my favourite:

Rand (her shallow knowledge of philosophy)
Wittgenstein (feeble..feeble philosopher admired by philosophical
eunuchs)
Rae Langton/MacKinnon/Dworkin
Marx (A clumsy thinker)
Rorty (Not even a thinker).

Most of the others have something to say of lasting importance

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