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Dirk Thierbach

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Nov 2, 2009, 9:12:21 AM11/2/09
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XKCD has a character interaction chart of LotR (and others)
here: http://xkcd.com/657/

It's interesting to compare the complexity. Obligatory reading for this
is of course the corresponding chapter in /Road to ME/ :-)

- Dirk


Weland

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Nov 2, 2009, 12:06:37 PM11/2/09
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When I teach LoTR, one of the things I talk about is "interlace", the
interweaving of character and plotlines and how this compares to
classical and medieval literature, particularly some of the larger
Arthurian narratives.

Joanne Corsano

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Nov 2, 2009, 1:11:29 PM11/2/09
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:12:21 +0100, Dirk Thierbach
<dthie...@usenet.arcornews.de> wrote:

>XKCD has a character interaction chart of LotR (and others)
>here: http://xkcd.com/657/
>

I took a quick look, and it's a chart of the characters in the
*movies*. What a pity it is that the person who took the time to put
this together used the movies instead of the books.

-Joanne

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Dirk Thierbach

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Nov 2, 2009, 3:16:20 PM11/2/09
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Joanne Corsano <joa...@picturelake.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:12:21 +0100, Dirk Thierbach
> <dthie...@usenet.arcornews.de> wrote:

>>XKCD has a character interaction chart of LotR (and others)
>>here: http://xkcd.com/657/

> I took a quick look, and it's a chart of the characters in the
> *movies*.

Which is quite suitable as an approximation of what happens in the
books. :-)

- Dirk

Dirk Thierbach

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Nov 2, 2009, 3:18:44 PM11/2/09
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Weland <gi...@poetic.com> wrote:
> Dirk Thierbach wrote:
>> XKCD has a character interaction chart of LotR (and others)
>> here: http://xkcd.com/657/
>>
>> It's interesting to compare the complexity. Obligatory reading for this
>> is of course the corresponding chapter in /Road to ME/ :-)
>
> When I teach LoTR, one of the things I talk about is "interlace", the
> interweaving of character and plotlines and how this compares to
> classical and medieval literature, particularly some of the larger
> Arthurian narratives.

Now guess what the chapter in RtME is about :-) (though IIRC it doesn't
do an extensive comparison. OTOH it brings in a connection to religion.)

- Dirk

Glenn Holliday

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Nov 2, 2009, 9:47:52 PM11/2/09
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Joanne Corsano wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:12:21 +0100, Dirk Thierbach
> <dthie...@usenet.arcornews.de> wrote:
>
>> XKCD has a character interaction chart of LotR (and others)
>> here: http://xkcd.com/657/
>
> I took a quick look, and it's a chart of the characters in the
> *movies*. What a pity it is that the person who took the time to put
> this together used the movies instead of the books.

The cartoon is making a joke about the movie Primer
(the last character graph in the series is the punch line).
To do that, it compares the character graphs of several different
movies. You could do the same thing with books, but you'd have
to choose an appropriate book as your punch line other than the
actual punch line the cartoonist wanted to use.


--
Glenn Holliday holl...@acm.org

John W Kennedy

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:58:08 PM11/9/09
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Did Tolkien know OF? The greater part of the Vulgate wasn't available in
English until he'd been dead a quarter century.

--
John W. Kennedy
"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have
always objected to being governed at all."
-- G. K. Chesterton. "The Man Who Was Thursday"

Bill O'Meally

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:45:49 PM11/9/09
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I just saw this on Huffington Post and it made me think of this
thread. :-)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/09/bonnie-tyler-rick-astley_n_350746.html

--
Bill
"Wise fool."
Gandalf _The Two Towers_
(The Wise will remove 'se' to reach me. The Foolish will not!)


Weland

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:21:47 AM11/10/09
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John W Kennedy wrote:
> Weland wrote:
>
>> Dirk Thierbach wrote:
>>
>>> XKCD has a character interaction chart of LotR (and others)
>>> here: http://xkcd.com/657/
>>>
>>> It's interesting to compare the complexity. Obligatory reading for this
>>> is of course the corresponding chapter in /Road to ME/ :-)
>>>
>>> - Dirk
>>>
>>>
>>
>> When I teach LoTR, one of the things I talk about is "interlace", the
>> interweaving of character and plotlines and how this compares to
>> classical and medieval literature, particularly some of the larger
>> Arthurian narratives.
>
>
> Did Tolkien know OF? The greater part of the Vulgate wasn't available in
> English until he'd been dead a quarter century.
>

Yes, he even wrote a paper arguing that an Old French term borrowed into
Middle English was actually an Old English word borrowed into OF
reborrowed into ME.

Moreover, any decent Latinist can pick up OF easily enough.

Derek Broughton

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:31:53 AM11/10/09
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Bill O'Meally wrote:

> Dirk Thierbach wrote:
>> XKCD has a character interaction chart of LotR (and others)
>> here: http://xkcd.com/657/
>>
>> It's interesting to compare the complexity. Obligatory reading for
>> this is of course the corresponding chapter in /Road to ME/ :-)
>
> I just saw this on Huffington Post and it made me think of this
> thread. :-)
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/09/bonnie-tyler-rick-
astley_n_350746.html
>

Damn you Bill O'Meally! Now I can't get that song out of my head. Again...
--
derek

Bill O'Meally

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:50:17 PM11/10/09
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Did you look at the entire slide show? I was particularly amused by
the "Don't Cry for me Argentina" map and the "Early Beach Boys Songs"
venn diagram. :-)

Derek Broughton

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:41:47 PM11/10/09
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Bill O'Meally wrote:

> Derek Broughton wrote:
>> Bill O'Meally wrote:
>>
>>> Dirk Thierbach wrote:
>>>> XKCD has a character interaction chart of LotR (and others)
>>>> here: http://xkcd.com/657/
>>>>
>>>> It's interesting to compare the complexity. Obligatory reading for
>>>> this is of course the corresponding chapter in /Road to ME/ :-)
>>>
>>> I just saw this on Huffington Post and it made me think of this
>>> thread. :-)
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/09/bonnie-tyler-rick-
>>> astley_n_350746.html
>>>
>>
>> Damn you Bill O'Meally! Now I can't get that song out of my head.
>> Again...
>
> Did you look at the entire slide show? I was particularly amused by
> the "Don't Cry for me Argentina" map and the "Early Beach Boys Songs"
> venn diagram. :-)

No, I was too traumatized...
--
derek

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