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Andy Cooke

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Dec 22, 2009, 9:26:49 AM12/22/09
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With apologies for my cheeky double question (cf "String! Or nothing!"
- which got the same result as Gollum's anyway), I guess I get to ask one:

Vegetable kingdom.

Öjevind Lång

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> With apologies for my cheeky double question (cf "String! Or nothing!" -
> which got the same result as Gollum's anyway), I guess I get to ask one:
>
> Vegetable kingdom.

1. Is it in "The Lord of the Rings"?

�jevind

Andy Cooke

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Dec 22, 2009, 12:31:29 PM12/22/09
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No

Raven

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> Vegetable kingdom.
> 1. Is it in "The Lord of the Rings"?

> No

2. In Tolkien's general mythology?

Korpen.

Andy Cooke

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:16:45 PM12/22/09
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Yes

Rebecca

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:53:02 PM12/22/09
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On Dec 22, 1:16 pm, Andy Cooke <a...@andycooke.adsl24.co.uk> wrote:
> Raven wrote:
> > "Andy Cooke" <a...@andycooke.adsl24.co.uk> skrev i meddelelsen

> >news:hgqvph$1isp$1...@energise.enta.net...
>
> >> Vegetable kingdom.
> >> 1. Is it in "The Lord of the Rings"?
> >> No
>
> >   2. In Tolkien's general mythology?
>
> > Korpen.
>
> Yes


3. This seems to be becoming a breadbox question; Was it published in
Tolkien's lifetime?

Rebecca

Raven

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> Vegetable kingdom.
> 1. Is it in "The Lord of the Rings"?
> No
> 2. In Tolkien's general mythology?

> Yes

3. Did any hobbits encounter it?

Holl�.

Andy Cooke

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:01:24 PM12/22/09
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No

Andy Cooke

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:03:21 PM12/22/09
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-Meep. Judgement on me for deliberately cascading; newsgroup
propogation has delivered an accidental cascade-

No.

I'll call this one three and Rebecca's 4 (by the timestamps) and go from
the later post. All - please join thread one post over :-)

Andy Cooke

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:04:45 PM12/22/09
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Tidying up:

Vegetable Kingdom

1. Is it in "The Lord of the Rings"?
No

2. In Tolkien's general mythology?

Yes

3. Did any hobbits encounter it?

No

4. This seems to be becoming a breadbox question; Was it published in
Tolkien's lifetime?
No

Raven

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5. Speaking of which: could it fit in a breadbox?

Havran.

Andy Cooke

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:14:42 PM12/22/09
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No

Raven

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> Vegetable Kingdom
> 1. Is it in "The Lord of the Rings"?
> No
> 2. In Tolkien's general mythology?
> Yes
> 3. Did any hobbits encounter it?
> No
> 4. This seems to be becoming a breadbox question; Was it published in
> Tolkien's lifetime?
> No
> 5. Speaking of which: could it fit in a breadbox?
> No

6. A manufactured item?

Kauv�.

Andy Cooke

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:49:22 PM12/22/09
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Yes

Raven

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> Vegetable Kingdom
> 1. Is it in "The Lord of the Rings"?
> No
> 2. In Tolkien's general mythology?
> Yes
> 3. Did any hobbits encounter it?
> No
> 4. This seems to be becoming a breadbox question; Was it published in
> Tolkien's lifetime?
> No
> 5. Speaking of which: could it fit in a breadbox?
> No
> 6. A manufactured item?
> Yes

7. Does Tolkien provide an Elvish name for it, such as "lembas" (not a
guess, since a lembas-cake could certainly have fitted in a breadbox)?

Cr�.

Andy Cooke

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Dec 23, 2009, 3:34:08 AM12/23/09
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Yes

Öjevind Lång

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>>> Vegetable Kingdom
>>> 1. Is it in "The Lord of the Rings"?
>>> No
>>> 2. In Tolkien's general mythology?
>>> Yes
>>> 3. Did any hobbits encounter it?
>>> No
>>> 4. This seems to be becoming a breadbox question; Was it published in
>>> Tolkien's lifetime?
>>> No
>>> 5. Speaking of which: could it fit in a breadbox?
>>> No
>>> 6. A manufactured item?
>>> Yes
>> 7. Does Tolkien provide an Elvish name for it, such as "lembas" (not a
>> guess, since a lembas-cake could certainly have fitted in a breadbox)?
> Yes

8. Is it from the First or Second Age?

�jevind

Andy Cooke

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Yes

Öjevind Lång

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>>>>> Vegetable Kingdom
>>>>> 1. Is it in "The Lord of the Rings"?
>>>>> No
>>>>> 2. In Tolkien's general mythology?
>>>>> Yes
>>>>> 3. Did any hobbits encounter it?
>>>>> No
>>>>> 4. This seems to be becoming a breadbox question; Was it published in
>>>>> Tolkien's lifetime?
>>>>> No
>>>>> 5. Speaking of which: could it fit in a breadbox?
>>>>> No
>>>>> 6. A manufactured item?
>>>>> Yes
>>>> 7. Does Tolkien provide an Elvish name for it, such as "lembas" (not a
>>>> guess, since a lembas-cake could certainly have fitted in a breadbox)?
>>> Yes
>> 8. Is it from the First or Second Age?
> Yes

9. Is it mentioned in "The Silmarillion"?

�jevind

Andy Cooke

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Dec 23, 2009, 9:55:42 AM12/23/09
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No

Raven

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> Vegetable Kingdom
> 1. Is it in "The Lord of the Rings"?
> No
> 2. In Tolkien's general mythology?
> Yes
> 3. Did any hobbits encounter it?
> No
> 4. This seems to be becoming a breadbox question; Was it published in
> Tolkien's lifetime?
> No
> 5. Speaking of which: could it fit in a breadbox?
> No
> 6. A manufactured item?
> Yes
> 7. Does Tolkien provide an Elvish name for it, such as "lembas" (not a
> guess, since a lembas-cake could certainly have fitted in a breadbox)?
> Yes
> 8. Is it from the First or Second Age?
> Yes
> 9. Is it mentioned in "The Silmarillion"?
> No

10. Could it be lifted by an Elf or a Man?

Korppi.

Andy Cooke

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Dec 23, 2009, 11:50:07 AM12/23/09
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No

Raven

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> Vegetable Kingdom
> 1. Is it in "The Lord of the Rings"?
> No
> 2. In Tolkien's general mythology?
> Yes
> 3. Did any hobbits encounter it?
> No
> 4. This seems to be becoming a breadbox question; Was it published in
> Tolkien's lifetime?
> No
> 5. Speaking of which: could it fit in a breadbox?
> No
> 6. A manufactured item?
> Yes
> 7. Does Tolkien provide an Elvish name for it, such as "lembas" (not a
> guess, since a lembas-cake could certainly have fitted in a breadbox)?
> Yes
> 8. Is it from the First or Second Age?
> Yes
> 9. Is it mentioned in "The Silmarillion"?
> No
> 10. Could it be lifted by an Elf or a Man?
> No

11. Is it made (mainly) of wood?

Cuervo.

Andy Cooke

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Dec 23, 2009, 12:41:43 PM12/23/09
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Yes

Raven

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12. Did Elves make it?

Corbeau.

Andy Cooke

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No

Raven

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13. Men?

Karasu.

Andy Cooke

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Dec 23, 2009, 2:09:24 PM12/23/09
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Yes

Raven

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14. Is it named?

Cr�.

Andy Cooke

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Dec 23, 2009, 2:26:16 PM12/23/09
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Yes

Raven

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14B. Are only you and I running this thread?

15. Is it a building?

Marghvran.

Andy Cooke

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Dec 23, 2009, 3:19:31 PM12/23/09
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Apparently :)

> 15. Is it a building?

No

Troels Forchhammer

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In message <news:4b3276c3$0$56773$edfa...@dtext02.news.tele.dk>
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<snip>

> 14B. Are only you and I running this thread?

Well, every time I come by hoping to ask a question, you have an active
question . . . one almost considers cascading a question just to get
one into the line <pouts> ;-)

So, if you wish to give others a chance, you should leave at least a
couple of hours after an answer before you ask a new question . . ..
Not that you have to, of course, but you did ask :)

No, really -- I honestly don't mind.

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Troels Forchhammer

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> Raven wrote:
>>

>> 15. Is it a building?
>
> No

A ship?

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Andy Cooke

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Dec 23, 2009, 3:30:48 PM12/23/09
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Yes

Troels Forchhammer

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The Palarran?

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Andy Cooke

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(Tidying up to avoid too many quotes):

13. Men?
Yes

16. A ship?
Yes

Andy Cooke

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Troels Forchhammer wrote:

16. A ship?
Yes
>
17. The Palarran?
No

Troels Forchhammer

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> Vegetable Kingdom

Phew -- I was worried for a moment I had become too eager, since I'm
off to the in-laws for Christmas and won't be on-line much for the
next few days ;-)

18. A N�men�rean ship?

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Andy Cooke

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Yes

(I'll try to answer as quick as I can :-) )

Andy Cooke

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(with the above in mind, I'm afraid I've got to pop out to take my
sister-in-law back to Ealing. Back in an hour or so)

--
Andy Cooke

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Andy Cooke wrote:

>>> Vegetable Kingdom
>>> 1. Is it in "The Lord of the Rings"?
>>> No
>>> 2. In Tolkien's general mythology?
>>> Yes
>>> 3. Did any hobbits encounter it?
>>> No
>>> 4. This seems to be becoming a breadbox question; Was it published
>>> in Tolkien's lifetime?
>>> No
>>> 5. Speaking of which: could it fit in a breadbox?
>>> No
>>> 6. A manufactured item?
>>> Yes

>>> 7. Does Tolkien provide an Elvish name for it, such as "lembas"?


>>> Yes
>>> 8. Is it from the First or Second Age?
>>> Yes
>>> 9. Is it mentioned in "The Silmarillion"?
>>> No
>>> 10. Could it be lifted by an Elf or a Man?
>>> No
>>> 11. Is it made (mainly) of wood?
>>> Yes
>>> 12. Did Elves make it?
>>> No
>>> 13. Men?
>>> Yes
>>> 14. Is it named?
>>> Yes
>>> 15. Is it a building?
>>> No
>>> 16. A ship?
>>> Yes
>>> 17. The Palarran?
>>> No

>> 18. A N�men�rean ship?

> Yes

19. Hirilond�?

T.

Raven

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> 18. A N�men�rean ship?
> Yes

19. One of Aldarion's other ships?

Kruk.

Raven

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> Well, every time I come by hoping to ask a question, you have an active
> question . . . one almost considers cascading a question just to get
> one into the line <pouts> ;-)

You must be out of luck then. Judging by the timestamps on the posts
Andy answers sooner than I put the next question.

> So, if you wish to give others a chance, you should leave at least a
> couple of hours after an answer before you ask a new question . . ..
> Not that you have to, of course, but you did ask :)

But most of us, myself included, will be off away for the next few days.
We sort of have to wrap up this thread before Yule-eve or leave it to simmer
until after. :-)

Ravn.

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Raven's at 19 and Taemon's at 20)

Taemon wrote:

19. One of Aldarion's other ships?
Yes

20. Hirilond�?
No

Raven

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21. Then it's down to lucky guesses. Turuphanto was just the nickname of
Hirilond� during its building --- was it E�mbar?

Raaf.

Andy Cooke

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Yes

We have a winner. I chose it because I loved the Aldarion and Erendis
story and the setting on Numenor during the idyllic time of the Second
Age - a glimpse into the Westernesse that was lost. And E�mbar, as the
home of the Venturers, well - I just wanted to visit it and sail around
Numenor, like Aldarion and Erendis did once.

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Raven

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>> 21. Then it's down to lucky guesses. Turuphanto was just the nickname of
>> Hirilond� during its building --- was it E�mbar?

> Yes

> We have a winner. I chose it because I loved the Aldarion and Erendis
> story and the setting on Numenor during the idyllic time of the Second
> Age - a glimpse into the Westernesse that was lost. And E�mbar, as the
> home of the Venturers, well - I just wanted to visit it and sail around
> Numenor, like Aldarion and Erendis did once.

I won't start the next 20 questions thread now, but wait until after I
come home from my parents. Probably on Sunday.
If you were to sail around N�menor, perhaps you might want another
shipmate than Erendis. :-) Too bad the N�menoreans didn't have radio kits.
Then Erendis could at least have maintained voice contact with Aldarion
during his long absences. :-)
<in my next questions thread i shan't choose n�merr�mar>

Ramn.

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Item: E�mbar, home of the Venturers of Numenor. A ship of Aldarion's in
the Second Age, a dwelling place on sea and place of storage of the
records of the Venturers.:

Vegetable Kingdom
1. Is it in "The Lord of the Rings"?

No (Unfinished Tales)

2. In Tolkien's general mythology?

Yes (Unfinished Tales)

3. Did any hobbits encounter it?
No

4. This seems to be becoming a breadbox question; Was it published
in Tolkien's lifetime?
No

5. Speaking of which: could it fit in a breadbox?

No (unless it's Ulmo's breadbox ...)

6. A manufactured item?
Yes (definitely)

7. Does Tolkien provide an Elvish name for it, such as "lembas"?

Yes (E�mbar - I did wonder if the question was aimed at a generic name
(so an Elvish name for "ship" would be needed), but I concluded that
E�mbar being an Elvish name meant that the answer was yes)

8. Is it from the First or Second Age?

Yes (Second Age)

9. Is it mentioned in "The Silmarillion"?

No (I had a careful look at the Akallabeth - not there)

10. Could it be lifted by an Elf or a Man?
No

11. Is it made (mainly) of wood?

Yes (presumably)

12. Did Elves make it?
No

13. Men?
Yes

14. Is it named?
Yes (E�mbar)

15. Is it a building?

No (It could be argued that as a dwelling place on sea, it might be a
floating
building, but all indications were that it was simply a ship used as a
dwelling place)

16. A ship?
Yes

17. The Palarran?
No

18. A N�men�rean ship?
Yes

19. One of Aldarion's other ships?
Yes

20. Hirilond�?
No

21. Then it's down to lucky guesses. Turuphanto was just the nickname
of Hirilond� during its building --- was it E�mbar?

Yes (Good lucky guess :-) )

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> 7. Does Tolkien provide an Elvish name for it, such as "lembas"?
> Yes (E�mbar - I did wonder if the question was aimed at a generic name
> (so an Elvish name for "ship" would be needed), but I concluded that
> E�mbar being an Elvish name meant that the answer was yes)

I should have phrased that question differently: "Does Tolkien provide an
Elvish *word* for it", for that was what I intended to ask. The answer
would still have been yes, since the Quenya for "ship" is "cirya"
(nominative singular).
Then again, Tolkien provided Elvish nouns for such a lot of things.
<slaps self on forehead>

Zagh.

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> Item: Eämbar, home of the Venturers of Numenor.  A ship of Aldarion's in

> the Second Age, a dwelling place on sea and place of storage of the
> records of the Venturers.:
>
> Vegetable Kingdom
> 1. Is it in "The Lord of the Rings"?
> No (Unfinished Tales)
>
> 2. In Tolkien's general mythology?
> Yes (Unfinished Tales)
>
> 3. Did any hobbits encounter it?
> No
>
> 4. This seems to be becoming a breadbox question; Was it published
> in Tolkien's lifetime?
> No
>
> 5. Speaking of which: could it fit in a breadbox?
> No (unless it's Ulmo's breadbox ...)
>
> 6. A manufactured item?
> Yes (definitely)
>
> 7. Does Tolkien provide an Elvish name for it, such as "lembas"?
> Yes (Eämbar - I did wonder if the question was aimed at a generic name

> (so an Elvish name for "ship" would be needed), but I concluded that
> Eämbar being an Elvish name meant that the answer was yes)

>
> 8. Is it from the First or Second Age?
> Yes (Second Age)
>
> 9. Is it mentioned in "The Silmarillion"?
> No (I had a careful look at the Akallabeth - not there)
>
> 10. Could it be lifted by an Elf or a Man?
> No
>
> 11. Is it made (mainly) of wood?
> Yes (presumably)
>
> 12. Did Elves make it?
> No
>
> 13. Men?
> Yes
>
> 14. Is it named?
> Yes (Eämbar)

>
> 15. Is it a building?
> No (It could be argued that as a dwelling place on sea, it might be a
> floating
> building, but all indications were that it was simply a ship used as a
> dwelling place)
>
> 16. A ship?
> Yes
>
> 17. The Palarran?
> No
>
> 18. A Númenórean ship?

> Yes
>
> 19. One of Aldarion's other ships?
> Yes
>
> 20. Hirilondë?

> No
>
> 21. Then it's down to lucky guesses.  Turuphanto was just the nickname
> of Hirilondë during its building --- was it Eämbar?

> Yes (Good lucky guess :-) )
>
> --
> Andy Cooke

I agree this one had to be concluded quickly for seasonal reasons.
Those questions and answers were flying thick and fast :) I was
wondering from 13. if it was a ship- I wanted to ask if it moved back
around 14. in there. It was a good game, though.

I think I am going to have to change my preferences from digest :D to
have a chance of slipping in a question without cascading- but this
was the fastest moving game I have seen since I joined the group
around Thanksgiving (end of November.) I look forward to Sunday.

Rebecca

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