new book - Morgoth's Ring
Derek LeLash
"Morgoth's Ring." It apparently deals with Silmarillion-era material
written after LotR was completed. Costs $25 in hardcover from HMco.
Derek [at least two or three books behind Christopher Tolkien already]
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Derek LeLash
I've seen another set in a black box with Hildebrant art on it. There are
no credits on the box, so who makes these? If they aren't the BBC version,
where can I get that? Is this set worth buying?
Derek
wham...@williams.edu
writes:
>I have the tapes from Mind's Eye (the ones in a wooden box), and lately
>I've seen another set in a black box with Hildebrant art on it. There are
>no credits on the box, so who makes these? If they aren't the BBC version,
>where can I get that? Is this set worth buying?
The tapes in the black box with a Hildebrandt illustration, issued by
Bantam Audio in the U.S., are indeed the BBC dramatization of _The Lord of
the Rings_, and are well worth having. Bantam also issues the four-cassette
BBC _Hobbit_.
Wayne Hammond
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Richard Leyton
London, or from Mail order from a number of places (I would
presume). I'll see what I can find out for the BBC
Enterprises address, and post it here if you want.
The BBC Tapes (as I've said before!) are *VERY* *VERY* good, and I
would heartly recommend them to *ANYONE* who enjoys the books, the
portrayal of characters is excellent, the voices are *perfect*, and
the music is great.
Yes, I do like them...!
Richard Leyton
Kazi Zahin Hasan
>Volume 11 in the History of Middle Earth is now available, entitled
>"Morgoth's Ring." It apparently deals with Silmarillion-era material
>written after LotR was completed. Costs $25 in hardcover from HMco.
I think _Morgoth's Ring_ is actually volume 10. That's what's
printed on my copy, anyway.
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William D.B. Loos
>Volume 11 in the History of Middle Earth is now available, entitled
>"Morgoth's Ring." It apparently deals with Silmarillion-era material
>written after LotR was completed. Costs $25 in hardcover from HMco.
Right, except that it's Volume 10. It has half of the post-LotR Silmarillion
material, the Valinorean half. Volume 11 (one year away, one presumes) will
have the other half, the Beleriandic half. _Morgoth's Ring_ has some of
Tolkien's ponderings over how the mythology should be modified in light of
both LotR and various doubts he had come to feel for the original structure.
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>In article <derekCK...@netcom.com>, de...@netcom.com (Derek LeLash) writes...
>>Volume 11 in the History of Middle Earth is now available, entitled
>>"Morgoth's Ring." It apparently deals with Silmarillion-era material
>>written after LotR was completed. Costs $25 in hardcover from HMco.
>
>Right, except that it's Volume 10. It has half of the post-LotR Silmarillion
>material, the Valinorean half. Volume 11 (one year away, one presumes) will
>have the other half, the Beleriandic half. _Morgoth's Ring_ has some of
>Tolkien's ponderings over how the mythology should be modified in light of
>both LotR and various doubts he had come to feel for the original structure.
>
Is there any chance that the HoME series is going to see paperback
publication? I am currently reading The Lost Tales. Are these the
first two HoME books or are these a completely different series?
I know Unfinished Tales is not a part of HoME, but other than that
I am a bit confused...
Wade (a poor student who can't afford $25 a pop for a 10 volume
series) Greiner
Andrew Bell
You mean there's more than the conclusion, Return of the King? Forgive my
ignorance, if this is true, I haven't even finished Return of the King yet.
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>Is there any chance that the HoME series is going to see paperback
>publication? I am currently reading The Lost Tales. Are these the
>first two HoME books or are these a completely different series?
Most of _The History of Middle-earth_ is in paperback from Tolkien's British
publisher, and has been for some time. In the U.S., Houghton Mifflin have
published _The Book of Lost Tales_ parts 1 and 2 and _The Lays of Beleriand_
in trade paperback, and Ballantine Books have published the two _Lost Tales_
volumes (which are indeed the first two volumes of _HoME_) in regular-size
paperback.
Wayne Hammond
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John C Pillar
>publication? I am currently reading The Lost Tales. Are these the
>first two HoME books or are these a completely different series?
>I know Unfinished Tales is not a part of HoME, but other than that
>I am a bit confused...
>Wade (a poor student who can't afford $25 a pop for a 10 volume
>series) Greiner
I spoke with a publisher's representative several months ago regarding the
HoME. She indicated that as the sales of the hard cover editions tail off,
they will release trade editions. Likewise, after the sales of the trade
editions tail off, paperback editions will be released.
As it was eight years between the American release of tBoLT, I & II in
hardcover and paperback editions, I hope you are not in a big hurry to
buy them.
John Pillar
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Richard Leyton
|> > Volume 11 in the History of Middle Earth is now available, entitled
|>
|> You mean there's more than the conclusion, Return of the King? Forgive my
|> ignorance, if this is true, I haven't even finished Return of the King yet.
Yup, there are quite a few 'others' as you put it, but not in the same style as
LotR. Tolkien died in 1973, having "only" published The Hobbit, FotR, TT and RotK
in Middle Earth (I'm deliberately discounting essays, lectures etc. that may have
been published).
Arguably his greatest work (especially to readers of this news group), "The
Silmarillion" was never published by Tolkien himself, he spent most of his adult
life refining it, and never brought it all together (he submitted it many times
to his publishers). One of his sons, Christopher (an Oxford Don like his father!)
took on the mammoth task of compiling his fathers work, and making it 'fact', ie.
A source of information that could be relied upon.
Following this, he has put into print these books(*please* correct me if I'm wrong, I
haven't read them all)
Unfinished Tales: Short Stories and clippings Tolkien wrote (my favourite being
Gandalfs talk with the hobbits in Minas Tirith discussing his escape)
The Book of Lost Tales 1 & 2: Various legends and tales
The Lost Road and Other writings: Some of Tolkiens ME related work (TLR esp.)
The Shaping of Middle Earth, The Lays of Beleriand, one or two others.
The Return of the Shadow, The Treason of Isengard, The defeat of Sauron, (The War
of the Ring?) - The history of the Lord of the Rings - How Tolkien wrote the
books we all know and love...
All of these latter books are in the *History of Middle Earth* series, of which
book 11 has just been released. The Tolkien FAQ I should thing would have a
complete (probably American) bibliography, or some other kind sole has put one
together.
All of these books are much *heavier* than TH, FotR, TT and RotK, dealing with
the Myth Tolkien created, and its evolution, languages, history and more, and
don't follow on *really*, most of them are pre-war of the ring, ie. 1st, 2nd and
3rd ages...
Don't dismay, they're still beautiful, and we all owe Christopher Tolkien a round
of applause and a massive vote of thanks for all of the work he has done for us
Tolkien addicts...
Richard Leyton.
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Cheers.
Brad Shantz
el...@ldds4.london.chevron.com (Richard Leyton) writes:
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>All of these latter books are in the *History of Middle Earth* series, of
which
>book 11 has just been released. THE TOLKIEN FAQ I should think would have a
>complete (probably American) bibliography, or some other kind sole has put one
>together.
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Folks, I repeat my question from an earlier post. Is there an FAQ. I am in
the midst of putting one together with a list (correct even) of the titles in
HoME, LOtR, etc.
Also, is a kind sole a friendly fish? (Joke, ha, ha. I believe he meant kind
SOUL)
Any replies would be appreciated.
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Richard Leyton
Mmmm, Well in the UK all save Morgoths Ring has come out in Paperback.
HarperCollins will (I suppose) release this in Paperback soon too. I would of
thought something would happen in the US, Paperbacks account for more sales
*surely* than Hardback...
Richard Leyton
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Kazi Zahin Hasan
<el...@ldds4.london.chevron.com> wrote:
>Unfinished Tales: Short Stories and clippings Tolkien wrote (my
>favourite being Gandalfs talk with the hobbits in Minas Tirith
>discussing his escape)
My understanding of UT is that it comprises the unfinished _final_
drafts of certain key stories, as opposed to the silmarillion chapters
(the ones towards the end?) whose final versions JRRT never decided
on. I read it so long ago that I don't even remember what was in it.
did it include a version of the Narn i Hin Hurin (the story of Turin
Turambar)? this is my second-most favorite JRRT tale, after the Tale
of Tinuviel.
wham...@williams.edu
writes:
>Folks, I repeat my question from an earlier post. Is there an FAQ. I am in
>the midst of putting one together with a list (correct even) of the titles in
>HoME, LOtR, etc.
Yes, there is a FAQ, chiefly by William D.B. Loos with contributions by
others. It is quite lengthy, includes a book list, and is periodically
posted to this group.
Wayne Hammond
Wayne.G...@williams.edu
Thorongil
>
>Folks, I repeat my question from an earlier post. Is there an FAQ. I am in
>the midst of putting one together with a list (correct even) of the titles in
>HoME, LOtR, etc.
There is a FAQ ( Fequently Asked Questions ), a L-FAQ ( Less Fequently
Asked Quesitons ), and a BookList all maintained by W. D. B. Loos.
You can contact either him at <LO...@FRODO.MGH.HARVARD.EDU> via e-mail
and get the FAQs etc. or contact me at pa...@erc.msstate.edu via e-mail
and I will send them to you.
No need to reinvent the wheel especially when Bill Loos has done such a
great job.
Thorongil
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swift and keen-eyed, and wore a silver star upon his cloak; but no one
knew his true name nor in what land he was born."
Klaus Ole Kristiansen
>Is there any chance that the HoME series is going to see paperback
>publication? I am currently reading The Lost Tales. Are these the
>first two HoME books or are these a completely different series?
>I know Unfinished Tales is not a part of HoME, but other than that
>I am a bit confused...
The book of Lost Tales is vol. 1 and 2 of HoME. HoME vol 1-9 is
out in trade paperback, vol 9, Sauron Defeated, since september.
The paperbacks are usually about a year behind the hardcovers.
Klaus O K
Stan Brown
>publication? I am currently reading The Lost Tales. Are these the
>first two HoME books or are these a completely different series?
>I know Unfinished Tales is not a part of HoME, but other than that
>I am a bit confused...
>
>Wade (a poor student who can't afford $25 a pop for a 10 volume
>series) Greiner
To answer your first question, the first few volumes of the HoME are
already in paperback in the U.S., and I assume in the U.K. as well. To
answer your second question, the two volumes of the Book of Lost Tales
are the first two volumes of the HoME series.
And to answer your signature: you can get the books from libraries for
free. If your local library doesn't have a book you want, ask the
librarian about interlibrary loan, which is available at many libraries
at very low cost or free.
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