Text Files of LOTR
Eruadan
someone from this email address <<ere...@netvision.net.il>> sending out
private emails asking for text files of FOTR.
I don't know if it was William, Bert, or Tom, or if he had a "legit"
reason for wanting them. I just told him is was copyrighted material,
and not released as text files.
Actually, come to think of it it _was_ Tom! That's how he signed his
message.
Eruadan
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tuli...@my-deja.com
Eruadan <eru...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> Just thought you folks might be interested in being on the lookout for
> someone from this email address <<ere...@netvision.net.il>> sending
out
> private emails asking for text files of FOTR.
>
> I don't know if it was William, Bert, or Tom, or if he had a "legit"
> reason for wanting them. I just told him is was copyrighted material,
> and not released as text files.
>
> Actually, come to think of it it _was_ Tom! That's how he signed his
> message.
>
> Eruadan
I had one too - now consigned to oblivion, with the rest of the
nuisance messages. In fact, I had two - original request, then
correction to text files.
Tamsin
buh...@ecn.ab.ca
electronic timeless void.
tuli...@my-deja.com wrote:
: In article <8es42o$39l$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
: Tamsin
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Conrad Dunkerson
news:RCmQ4.608$jL4....@news.get2net.dk...
> I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands,
> please.
Me.
Steuard Jensen
> I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands, please.
Yup yup. And the sad part is, there are a few people here who
probably answered helpfully. I got them as well, and sent a quick
"that wouldn't be very nice" message back... ah well.
Steuard Jensen
Peter Johnson
jonlenn...@get2net.dk says...
> I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands, please.
<Raises hand>
Yes, although I haven't posted in a LONG time.. strange.
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Flame of the West
> > I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands, please.
>
> <Raises hand>
>
> Yes, although I haven't posted in a LONG time.. strange.
Not me. I feel left out.
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Raven
> > Just thought you folks might be interested in being on the lookout
> > for someone from this email address
> > <<ere...@netvision.net.il>> sending out private emails asking
> > for text files of FOTR.
> > I don't know if it was William, Bert, or Tom, or if he had a "legit"
> > reason for wanting them. I just told him is was copyrighted
> > material, and not released as text files. Actually, come to think
> > of it it _was_ Tom! That's how he signed his message.
> I had one too - now consigned to oblivion, with the rest of the
> nuisance messages. In fact, I had two - original request, then
> correction to text files.
I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands, please.
Ravn.
Jamie Armstrong
Raven wrote:
>
> <tuli...@my-deja.com> skrev i en news:8es6j9$678$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
> > I had one too - now consigned to oblivion, with the rest of the
> > nuisance messages. In fact, I had two - original request, then
> > correction to text files.
> I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands, please.
>
Me too.
Jamie
PaulB
>> please.
>
>
anxiously for him mail me and tell me I'm his next contestant.
Breathe
Peace
PB
"... the essence of myth [is] that it have no taint of allegory to the maker
and yet should suggest incipient allegories to the reader..."
C. S. Lewis, having read "The Lay of Leithian"
Claude Martins
Raven <jonlenn...@get2net.dk> wrote:
>
> I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands, please.
Me.
- Claude.
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KO
>
Me
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Krzysiek Okon
Dave Mansell
jonlenn...@get2net.dk (Raven) wrote:
> <tuli...@my-deja.com> skrev i en news:8es6j9$678$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
> > > Just thought you folks might be interested in being on the lookout
> > > for someone from this email address
> > > <<ere...@netvision.net.il>> sending out private emails asking
> > > for text files of FOTR.
>
> > > I don't know if it was William, Bert, or Tom, or if he had a "legit"
> > > reason for wanting them. I just told him is was copyrighted
> > > material, and not released as text files. Actually, come to think
> > > of it it _was_ Tom! That's how he signed his message.
> > I had one too - now consigned to oblivion, with the rest of the
> > nuisance messages. In fact, I had two - original request, then
> > correction to text files.
> I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands, please.
>
> Ravn.
>
>
Yep me too, I suspect just about everyone who posted here recently got
one.
Dave
KO
> Not me. I feel left out.
>
I can forward you a copy ;-)))
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Krzysiek Okon
Mark Wells
<jonlenn...@get2net.dk> wrote:
> I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands, please.
Got two, reported him to his ISP. Harvesting addresses from Usenet is
Very Rude.
Colin Rosenthal
Conrad Dunkerson <conrad.d...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>"Raven" <jonlenn...@get2net.dk> wrote in message
>news:RCmQ4.608$jL4....@news.get2net.dk...
>
>> please.
>
Me too. I just ignored it.
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Matthias Joost
> I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands,
> please.
>
> Ravn.
>
*me*
Matthias
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Tom Sherlock
"Raven" <jonlenn...@get2net.dk> wrote:
> <tuli...@my-deja.com> skrev i en news:8es6j9$678$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
> > > Just thought you folks might be interested in being on the lookout
> > > for someone from this email address
> > > <<ere...@netvision.net.il>> sending out private emails asking
> > > for text files of FOTR.
>
> > > I don't know if it was William, Bert, or Tom, or if he had a
"legit"
> > > reason for wanting them. I just told him is was copyrighted
> > > material, and not released as text files. Actually, come to think
> > > of it it _was_ Tom! That's how he signed his message.
> > I had one too - now consigned to oblivion, with the rest of the
> > nuisance messages. In fact, I had two - original request, then
> > correction to text files.
>
> Ravn.
>
>
I got them as well.
(I'm new to this newsgroup BTW).
Tom (not the _Tom_ responsible for the e-mail in question)
tomsh...@my-deja.com
tau...@mindspring.com
Öjevind Lång
[snip]
> I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands, please.
I did. Threw them away, of course.
Öjevind
Cletus the slack-jawed yokel
<snip>
> I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands, please.
Me
Bill
Andrew Wells
<snips>
>(I'm new to this newsgroup BTW).
Hello, and welcome tot he group.
Andrew
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Andrew Wells
> I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands, please.
Two of each.
Robert Brady
>Raven wrote in message ...
>> I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands, please.
>Two of each.
Ditto.
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Robert
Justin B. Green
> I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of
> hands, please.
Me. And I'm a newbie to RAFT who has posted here a total
of two times. People warn me not to put my real address in usenet posts,
but I've VERY rarely had any problems. This guy should be shut down.
Rory Molinari
Raven> I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands,
Raven> please.
I got four (two copies each of the first email, and another clearing
up the fact he was looking for digital copies.) I sent a message to
his postmaster, complaining about the spam. I haven't heard anything
back, so I think my message went to the great bitbucket in the sky.
Raven> Ravn.
Rory
Nicolas Masson
> I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands, please.
>
> Ravn.
Altough I'm only posting there once every year, I received the two
messages too.
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And this was my post for 2000.
Stan Brown
rec.arts.books.tolkien:
>How could anybody help?
>Do they exist?
Yes, or at least they did a few months ago. The URL was posted
here.
>As to the morals (not to the law), to me it is not immoral to get the
>text file for quick searching purposes if you have the book in your
>shelf.
I agree with you. But as was also posted here (or perhaps in
misc.legal.moderated, where I asked the question), it's a copyright
violation to download them because that is making a copy, which is
prohibited on the copyright page.
Given your condition, that it's for searching when one has already
bought one or more paper copies, and given that the there are no
legal electronic copies whose sales we would be reducing, I think
it's morally fine. But others may disagree; and in any event the
law and morality do not always run together, alas.
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David Sulger
>I had two of those too. How many else
>did? Show of hands, please.
I don't know if I got this one or not, but I do remember getting a spam
recently that had a huge recipient list. Most of the names on that list
seemed to be regulars in these newsgroups. I just went to look it up,
but I can't seem to find it. I usually just ditch spam, and if I got it
over a week ago, it's long gone by now.
--Dave
Tamim Khawaja
>
> <tuli...@my-deja.com> skrev i en news:8es6j9$678$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
> > > Just thought you folks might be interested in being on the lookout
> > > for someone from this email address
> > > <<ere...@netvision.net.il>> sending out private emails asking
> > > for text files of FOTR.
>
> > > I don't know if it was William, Bert, or Tom, or if he had a "legit"
> > > reason for wanting them. I just told him is was copyrighted
> > > material, and not released as text files. Actually, come to think
> > > of it it _was_ Tom! That's how he signed his message.
> > I had one too - now consigned to oblivion, with the rest of the
> > nuisance messages. In fact, I had two - original request, then
> > correction to text files.
>
I am raising my rught hand as high as I can.
Tamim
Tamim Khawaja
>
> Quoth "Raven" <jonlenn...@get2net.dk>:
> > I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands, please.
>
> probably answered helpfully. I got them as well, and sent a quick
> "that wouldn't be very nice" message back... ah well.
How could anybody help?
Do they exist?
Is it not easier to buy the LotR in 170mk:s (30 $) than to print the
whole thing?
It is not very pleasant to read the print and who wouldn't spend that
money to make reading more pleasant.
As to the morals (not to the law), to me it is not immoral to get the
text file for quick searching purposes if you have the book in your
shelf.
Tamim
Tamim Khawaja
>
> Raven wrote:
>
> > I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands, please.
> >
>
> Altough I'm only posting there once every year, I received the two
> messages too.
>
This year's quota is then full so don't answer this.
Tamim
Eruadan
moli...@math.lsa.umich.edu wrote:
> I got four (two copies each of the first email, and another clearing
> up the fact he was looking for digital copies.) I sent a message to
> his postmaster, complaining about the spam. I haven't heard anything
> back, so I think my message went to the great bitbucket in the sky.
Dunno. I think his ISP has had a bit more to worry about the last
couple of days
than complaints about a spammer.
BTW, I got two of each, too. One set on an old address that I haven't
posted from
in almost a year.
Eruadan
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you are small, insignificant, and taste good with ketchup
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><tuli...@my-deja.com> skrev i en news:8es6j9$678$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
>> > Just thought you folks might be interested in being on the lookout
>> > for someone from this email address
>> > <<ere...@netvision.net.il>> sending out private emails asking
>> > for text files of FOTR.
>
>> > I don't know if it was William, Bert, or Tom, or if he had a "legit"
>> > reason for wanting them. I just told him is was copyrighted
>> > material, and not released as text files. Actually, come to think
>> > of it it _was_ Tom! That's how he signed his message.
>> I had one too - now consigned to oblivion, with the rest of the
>> nuisance messages. In fact, I had two - original request, then
>> correction to text files.
> I had two of those too. How many else did? Show of hands, please.
/me raises hand.
I think this guy sent emails to all the people active on these Tolkien
NG's.
What still puzzles me though is that the message was not written to my
direct e-mail addy but to: tol...@localhost.hccnet.nl
Freek
Tamim Khawaja
> Given your condition, that it's for searching when one has already
> bought one or more paper copies, and given that the there are no
> legal electronic copies whose sales we would be reducing, I think
> it's morally fine. But others may disagree; and in any event the
> law and morality do not always run together, alas.
They don't and if I needed the text files and had no risk of getting
caught I would copy them.
My morals are more important in defining my actions than the Finnish law
is.
After all now it is illegal to drink on Helsinki's streets and even the
police said that they won't enforce this rule on vappu ( May Day). In
fact they haven't enforced it even on other days because there are so
many violators. Did you know, by the way, that this year helsinki is one
of the cultural capitals of Europe.
Here people seem to think that Helsinki is getting much publicity and
tourism because of it.
Tamim