Elven pregnancy
Dark Messenger
somebody said it was 2 years, now I wonder, does Tolkien say anything about
this or is it just something that was made up along with the D&D ?
rand mair fheal
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he said men and elves mature the same until their twenties
so i would guess that includes gestation
Aris Katsaris
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Both. Tolkien did say something about this, but not this - he said
elven pregnancy was one year instead.
Aris Katsaris
Russ
Actually, there are texts that say humans develop quicker than Elves - that Men
will be physically mature while Elven children are still, well, children. I'm
not positive of the cite, but it's probably in Law and Customs of the Eldar.
Russ
Conrad Dunkerson
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> Actually, there are texts that say humans develop quicker than Elves
> - that Men will be physically mature while Elven children are still,
> well, children.
Yup, the passage indicated that it took Elves 50 to 100 years to reach
full growth. Though they were actually coordinated and 'mentally
acute' earlier than human children.
> I'm not positive of the cite, but it's probably in Law and Customs
> of the Eldar.
Yes, the preamble.
Johnny1A
I wonder how that affected Luthien, Idril, and Arwen? Luthien is
half-Ainur, so she's a special case all her own, with a human mate.
Idril is pure Elven, but another human mate. And Arwen is technically
Ainu/Elda/Edain (emphasis Elda) and she is married to another
Ainu/Elda/Edain, only with the emphasis on Edain!
I wonder how all that played out in gestation?
Shermanlee
Steuard Jensen
<a94p8a$nq4$1...@usenet.otenet.gr>:
> > A while ago I found a post on some forum about elven pregnancy in
> Tolkien did say something about this, but not this - he said elven
> pregnancy was one year instead.
I'm embarassed to say that I have no memory of this at all. Where did
he comment on Elven pregnancies?
Steuard Jensen
Andreas Pohlke
Johnny1A wrote:
> I wonder how that affected Luthien, Idril, and Arwen? Luthien is
> half-Ainur, so she's a special case all her own, with a human mate.
> Idril is pure Elven, but another human mate. And Arwen is technically
> Ainu/Elda/Edain (emphasis Elda) and she is married to another
> Ainu/Elda/Edain, only with the emphasis on Edain!
> I wonder how all that played out in gestation?
maybe we should start a case study like Mr. Mendel and develop
some genetical statistics for elves...
The way, elves are described, I wouldn't wonder if elvesses could
vary the time of pregnancy "at will". I can't give text quote
for that, but _time_, measured in months, isn't really important
to immortals.
regards,
Andreas.
Aris Katsaris
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Morgoth's Ring, Laws and Customs among the Eldar.
He also says there that (in the few cases where they are different) it was the
conception-day rather than the birthday that was celebrated (or "remembered")
every year.
Aris Katsaris
Simon J. Rowe
"Aris Katsaris" <kats...@otenet.gr> writes:
> He also says there that (in the few cases where they are different) it was the
> conception-day rather than the birthday that was celebrated (or "remembered")
> every year.
I seem to recall that the Japanese used to have the same custom,
Simon
Mark Wooding
I can see this getting very confusing when it's finally revealed that
the kid's father was someone completely different, and the great event
was in the back of a car rather later on in the week...
-- [mdw]
me
much time on there hands wrote up called "the book of sex". If i recall
correctly it had thing in it like possible defects caused by magical
energies during gestation and similar things liek that........the thing that
strikes me as relevant here is that they had a table of "fertility" which
based a races chances of getting pregnant on average lifespan....and based
the gestation of the pregnancy on similar........i am pretty sure that that
is where the 2 year gestation for elves came from.
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DarkMessenger
Some people have to get a life and stop confusing others :/
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Jeff Blanks
>He also says there that (in the few cases where they are different) it was the
>conception-day rather than the birthday that was celebrated (or "remembered")
>every year.
Yep, just like a good Catholic, that ol' Ronnie!
But, ummm... How would they know?
--
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Conrad Dunkerson
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> "Aris Katsaris" <kats...@otenet.gr> wrote:
>> He also says there that (in the few cases where they are different)
>> it was the conception-day rather than the birthday that was
>> celebrated (or "remembered") every year.
> But, ummm... How would they know?
The Elves could apparently 'choose' when they wished to have children.
As such they might actually be able to pick the 'conception-day'.
DarkMessenger
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Jay Random
DarkMessenger wrote:
> "Conrad Dunkerson" <conrad.d...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>
>>The Elves could apparently 'choose' when they wished to have children.
>>As such they might actually be able to pick the 'conception-day'.
>>
> Why am I not born among the elves ? :(
Probably because they didn't want another kid at the time. 8-p
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