20 questions - Raven VI
Raven
Voron.
TT Arvind
<jon.lennart.beck.its.my.n...@mail.its.in.danmark> wrote:
> Animal kingdom.
1. Alive?
Raven
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> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
(That was quick!)
Yes.
Annank�kai.
TT Arvind
<jon.lennart.beck.its.my.n...@mail.its.in.danmark> wrote:
> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
2. Biped?
> (That was quick!)
There's a record to break :)
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Arvind
Raven
> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
Yes.
>> (That was quick!)
> There's a record to break :)
And so you did again . You'll end up tweeting next. :-)
Kauv�.
Raven
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> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
> Yes.
> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
No.
Karasu.
TT Arvind
<jon.lennart.beck.its.my.n...@mail.its.in.danmark> wrote:
> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
> Yes.
> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> No.
4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
--
Arvind
Raven
> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
> Yes.
> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> No.
> 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names at
the end of RotK.
K�kam.
TT Arvind
<jon.lennart.beck.its.my.n...@mail.its.in.danmark> wrote:
> "TT Arvind" <ttarv...@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelelsennews:9d2f4670-1b36-4b3f...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Animal kingdom.
> > 1. Alive?
> > Yes.
> > 2. Biped?
> > Yes.
> > 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> > No.
> > 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
>
> I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names at
> the end of RotK.
5. Is it one of the Eruhíni?
--
Arvind
Raven
> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
> Yes.
> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> No.
> 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> at
> the end of RotK.
> 5. Is it one of the Eruh�ni?
No.
Wu[1] Ya[1].
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6. Is it a bird?
�jevind
Raven
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> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
> Yes.
> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> No.
> 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> at the end of RotK.
> 5. Is it one of the Eruh�ni?
> No.
> 6. Is it a bird?
No.
Korpen.
TT Arvind
<jon.lennart.beck.its.my.n...@mail.its.in.danmark> wrote:
> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
> Yes.
> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> No.
> 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> at the end of RotK.
> 5. Is it one of the Eruhíni?
> No.
> 6. Is it a bird?
> No.
7. An animal?
--
Arvind
TT Arvind
Err... for 'animal' read 'Ainu'.
7. Is it an Ainu?
--
Arvind
Raven
> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
> Yes.
> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> No.
> 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> at the end of RotK.
> 5. Is it one of the Eruh�ni?
> No.
> 6. Is it a bird?
> No.
> 7. Is it an Ainu?
Yes.
As spiritual beings they belong to none of the standard three groups -
animal, plant, mineral. But they can take on physical bodies. And while
the Ainur were the direct offspring of the thought of Il�vatar, the term
"Children of The One" is reserved for Elves and Men. But I must admit that
categorizing and "yes/no" answers may be a bit dicey here.
Annank�kai.
Raven
> 7. Is it something other than a troll?
Yes. But since Arvind asked his question first, and since the answer to
it answers also yours, I will not tally this question.
Zagh.
TT Arvind
<jon.lennart.beck.its.my.n...@mail.its.in.danmark> wrote:
> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
> Yes.
> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> No.
> 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> at the end of RotK.
> 5. Is it one of the Eruhíni?
> No.
> 6. Is it a bird?
> No.
> 7. Is it an Ainu?
> Yes.
8. Is it a male Ainu?
> As spiritual beings they belong to none of the standard three groups -
> animal, plant, mineral. But they can take on physical bodies. And while
> the Ainur were the direct offspring of the thought of Ilúvatar, the term
> "Children of The One" is reserved for Elves and Men. But I must admit that
> categorizing and "yes/no" answers may be a bit dicey here.
I think your answers were spot on, actually. I did wonder a bit about
whether Ainur were 'animals' before asking the question (which is why
I initially said 'animal' instead of 'Ainu'), but figured that they
wouldn't fit into any other kingdom.
--
Arvind
Raven
> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
> Yes.
> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> No.
> 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> at the end of RotK.
> 5. Is it one of the Eruh�ni?
> No.
> 6. Is it a bird?
> No.
> 7. Is it an Ainu?
> Yes.
> 8. Is it a male Ainu?
Yes.
Eware.
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Is it one of the wizards?
�jevind
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Aha! That does exclude Bill Huggins, Bert and Tom, who are indeed not
mentioned by name in LotR.
�jevind
Clams Canino
"�jevind L�ng" <ojevin...@bredband.net> wrote in message
> Aha! That does exclude Bill Huggins, Bert and Tom, who are indeed not
> mentioned by name in LotR.
Might I inquire where we ever learned Bill's surname?
-W
Raven
> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
> Yes.
> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> No.
> 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> at the end of RotK.
> 5. Is it one of the Eruh�ni?
> No.
> 6. Is it a bird?
> No.
> 7. Is it an Ainu?
> Yes.
> 8. Is it a male Ainu?
> Yes.
> 9. Is it one of the wizards?
No.
Korpen.
Öjevind Lång
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>> Animal kingdom.
>> 1. Alive?
>> Yes.
>> 2. Biped?
>> Yes.
>> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
>> No.
>> 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
>> I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
>> in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
>> at the end of RotK.
>> 5. Is it one of the Eruh�ni?
>> No.
>> 6. Is it a bird?
>> No.
>> 7. Is it an Ainu?
>> Yes.
>> 8. Is it a male Ainu?
>> Yes.
>> 9. Is it one of the wizards?
> No.
10. Is it Yavanna?
�jevind
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In "The Hobbit", where we learned that his full name was William Huggins. It
happens right after Bilbo has tried to steal the trolls' talking purse.
"You're a fat fool, William", said Bert, "as I've said afore this evening."
"And you're a lout!"
"And I won't take that from you Bill Huggins", says Bert, and puts his
fust in William's eye.
Notice that towards the end, even Tolkien's narrative style becomes rather
cockneyish. "Says Bert."
�jevind
Raven
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
> Yes.
> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> No.
> 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> at the end of RotK.
> 5. Is it one of the Eruh�ni?
> No.
> 6. Is it a bird?
> No.
> 7. Is it an Ainu?
> Yes.
> 8. Is it a male Ainu?
> Yes.
> 9. Is it one of the wizards?
> No.
�jevind L�ng <ojevin...@bredband.net> wrote:
> Is it Yavanna?
"Nautilus" <m...@privacy.net> skrev i meddelelsen
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> I'm a bit naughty cascading again. But I'm wondering if answer 4
> says more than meets the eye. You wouldn't be asking us to find Varda
> aka Elbereth?
I will tally neither of these questions, since they have already been
answered under question 8. Yavanna and Varda are both female ainur. Also
by question 4 it cannot be Varda since she is richly mentioned in the LotR -
mainly under the name Elbereth, but in the chapter Farewell to L�rien she is
also mentioned as Varda. Twice in Galadriel's lament sung in Quenya, twice
in the English translation immediately following, once to mention that Varda
is the same Lady as Elbereth.
Rabe. <stares sternly with his most venomous schoolmaster-glare, before
reaching for a malt lozenge>
TT Arvind
<jon.lennart.beck.its.my.n...@mail.its.in.danmark> wrote:
> > Animal kingdom.
> > 1. Alive?
> > Yes.
> > 2. Biped?
> > Yes.
> > 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> > No.
> > 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> > I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> > in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> > at the end of RotK.
> > No.
> > 6. Is it a bird?
> > No.
> > 7. Is it an Ainu?
> > Yes.
> > 8. Is it a male Ainu?
> > Yes.
> > 9. Is it one of the wizards?
> > No.
10. Is it a Vala?
--
Arvind
Raven
> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
> Yes.
> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> No.
> 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> at the end of RotK.
> 5. Is it one of the Eruh�ni?
> No.
> 6. Is it a bird?
> No.
> 7. Is it an Ainu?
> Yes.
> 8. Is it a male Ainu?
> Yes.
> 9. Is it one of the wizards?
> No.
> 10. Is it a Vala?
Yes.
Gavran.
Clams Canino
"Raven" <jon.lennart.be...@mail.its.in.danmark> wrote in message
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Is it Tulkas?
Raven
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> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
> Yes.
> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> No.
> 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> at the end of RotK.
> 5. Is it one of the Eruh�ni?
> No.
> 6. Is it a bird?
> No.
> 7. Is it an Ainu?
> Yes.
> 8. Is it a male Ainu?
> Yes.
> 9. Is it one of the wizards?
> No.
> 10. Is it a Vala?
> Yes.
> 11. Is it Tulkas?
No.
Rare.
TT Arvind
<jon.lennart.beck.its.my.n...@mail.its.in.danmark> wrote:
> "Clams Canino" <cc-mar...@earthdink.net> skrev i meddelelsennews:nbWdnWUd1agpqPrW...@earthlink.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Animal kingdom.
> > 1. Alive?
> > Yes.
> > 2. Biped?
> > Yes.
> > 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> > No.
> > 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> > I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> > in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> > at the end of RotK.
> > No.
> > 6. Is it a bird?
> > No.
> > 7. Is it an Ainu?
> > Yes.
> > 8. Is it a male Ainu?
> > Yes.
> > 9. Is it one of the wizards?
> > No.
> > 10. Is it a Vala?
> > Yes.
> > 11. Is it Tulkas?
>
> No.
12. Married?
--
Arvind
Raven
> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
> Yes.
> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> No.
> 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> at the end of RotK.
> 5. Is it one of the Eruh�ni?
> No.
> 6. Is it a bird?
> No.
> 7. Is it an Ainu?
> Yes.
> 8. Is it a male Ainu?
> Yes.
> 9. Is it one of the wizards?
> No.
> 10. Is it a Vala?
> Yes.
> 11. Is it Tulkas?
> No.
> 12. Married?
Yes.
Huginion.
TT Arvind
<jon.lennart.beck.its.my.n...@mail.its.in.danmark> wrote:
> "TT Arvind" <ttarv...@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelelsennews:1efc39f5-4652-4686...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Animal kingdom.
> > 1. Alive?
> > Yes.
> > 2. Biped?
> > Yes.
> > 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> > No.
> > 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> > I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> > in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> > at the end of RotK.
> > No.
> > 6. Is it a bird?
> > No.
> > 7. Is it an Ainu?
> > Yes.
> > 8. Is it a male Ainu?
> > Yes.
> > 9. Is it one of the wizards?
> > No.
> > 10. Is it a Vala?
> > Yes.
> > 11. Is it Tulkas?
> > No.
> > 12. Married?
>
> Yes.
13. Does he have a brother (literally or in Eru's mind)?
--
Arvind
Raven
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> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
> Yes.
> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> No.
> 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> at the end of RotK.
> 5. Is it one of the Eruh�ni?
> No.
> 6. Is it a bird?
> No.
> 7. Is it an Ainu?
> Yes.
> 8. Is it a male Ainu?
> Yes.
> 9. Is it one of the wizards?
> No.
> 10. Is it a Vala?
> Yes.
> 11. Is it Tulkas?
> No.
> 12. Married?
> Yes.
> 13. Does he have a brother (literally or in Eru's mind)?
Yes.
Muninion.
TT Arvind
<jon.lennart.beck.its.my.n...@mail.its.in.danmark> wrote:
> "TT Arvind" <ttarv...@gmail.com> skrev i meddelelsennews:06ac1c73-444b-414a...@k41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Animal kingdom.
> > 1. Alive?
> > Yes.
> > 2. Biped?
> > Yes.
> > 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> > No.
> > 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> > I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> > in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> > at the end of RotK.
> > No.
> > 6. Is it a bird?
> > No.
> > 7. Is it an Ainu?
> > Yes.
> > 8. Is it a male Ainu?
> > Yes.
> > 9. Is it one of the wizards?
> > No.
> > 10. Is it a Vala?
> > Yes.
> > 11. Is it Tulkas?
> > No.
> > 12. Married?
> > Yes.
> > 13. Does he have a brother (literally or in Eru's mind)?
>
> Yes.
14. Is it one of the Aratar?
(Determinedly trying to avoid guessing...)
--
Arvind
Raven
> Animal kingdom.
> 1. Alive?
> Yes.
> 2. Biped?
> Yes.
> 3. Is it an Elf (including Half-elves)?
> No.
> 4. Does it occur in the LoTR?
> I do not think it is mentioned in the LotR by name. I have not found it
> in the most likely places, and it is not mentioned in the index of names
> at the end of RotK.
> 5. Is it one of the Eruh�ni?
> No.
> 6. Is it a bird?
> No.
> 7. Is it an Ainu?
> Yes.
> 8. Is it a male Ainu?
> Yes.
> 9. Is it one of the wizards?
> No.
> 10. Is it a Vala?
> Yes.
> 11. Is it Tulkas?
> No.
> 12. Married?
> Yes.
> 13. Does he have a brother (literally or in Eru's mind)?
> Yes.
> 14. Is it one of the Aratar?
Yes.
> (Determinedly trying to avoid guessing...)
You are being cwic again. :-) Guessing like a machine gun. >;-}
Cuervo.
TT Arvind
<jon.lennart.beck.its.my.n...@mail.its.in.danmark> wrote:
> "TT Arvind" <ttarv...@gmail.com> skrev i meddelelsennews:5f976a18-61aa-4127...@3g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
So, unless I have gotten something wrong, it is either Manwe or
Mandos. Manwe is indirectly mentioned in the LoTR (there is a
reference to the 'Elder King' in one of the Appendices), so...
15. Is it Mandos?
--
Arvind
Raven
> So, unless I have gotten something wrong, it is either Manwe or
> Mandos. Manwe is indirectly mentioned in the LoTR (there is a
> reference to the 'Elder King' in one of the Appendices), so...
Yes, Manw� is indirectly mentioned. But not by name. By fairly obscure
reference, twice: in Appendix A where N�menor is described, and in Bilbo's
song that was sung in Rivendell in the chapter Many Meetings.
> 15. Is it Mandos?
No. Be cwic and lively now, or injustice may overtake you.
Br�n.
Troels Forchhammer
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>> 16. Grr. Is it Manwe?
>
> Yes. You win.
For some reason the last bit of the thread was lost from RABT, so just
to prevent guesses from people who haven't seen that it has indeed
finished :-)
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