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Larry Winger

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Jul 1, 1994, 11:29:02 AM7/1/94
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Over here in the UK, we have an advertisement currently running on the telly for National Westminster Bank, in which a bonsai importing firm thanks NatWest for helping his business grow by remaining small. In this ad, we see a couple of
bonsai forests, which seem strangely devoid of little mammalian wildlife.

In another context, this morning on our telly, I am told that somebody showed a
miniaturised mouse (it was nude, but that's a story for another newsgroup).

Anyway, I was wondering, in the interests of verisimilitude, whether the bonsai
group had any plans to incorporate bonsai bunnies into their landscapes. Or course, I realise, you would have to bind up the bottom portions of your trees to
prevent rabbit gnawing/ringing of the young shoots, wouldn't you?

Hope you all don't mind a little joshing now and then. Am I taking the piss, or
what? Speaking of which, how about miniature dogs? Sorry, couldn't resist.

Actually, I wanted to thank the group for posting re the bonsai show in
Yorkshire, to which I direct my mate this weekend. Thanks a lot and cheers.

Neill Campbell

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Jul 4, 1994, 5:18:26 AM7/4/94
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Larry Winger (Larry....@newcastle.ac.uk) wrote:
: Over here in the UK, we have an advertisement currently running on the telly for National Westminster Bank, in which a bonsai importing firm thanks NatWest for helping his business grow by remaining small. In this ad, we see a couple of
: bonsai forests, which seem strangely devoid of little mammalian wildlife.

This is reportedly based upon Harry Tomlinson's Greenwood Nursery.
I'm told though that the trees/groups used were not his though ...
Dan Barton said that Peter Chan had been asked if his trees could
be used but had refused; anyone know any more about this ?

Neill

Todd Palmer

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Jul 4, 1994, 1:30:31 PM7/4/94
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Larry Winger (Larry....@newcastle.ac.uk) wrote:

Telly stuff deleted

: group had any plans to incorporate bonsai bunnies into their landscapes. Or course, I realise, you would have to bind up the bottom portions of your trees to

: prevent rabbit gnawing/ringing of the young shoots, wouldn't you?

: Hope you all don't mind a little joshing now and then. Am I taking the piss, or
: what? Speaking of which, how about miniature dogs? Sorry, couldn't resist.

No dogs or bunnies, but I was thinking of getting miniture sap buckets for
my maples. I'm originally from Michigan so Maple syrup was a big deal. In
order for a maple to look truly mature it has to have a syrup bucket or two
hanging on it.


Toddler


Hud Nordin

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Jul 4, 1994, 5:55:30 PM7/4/94
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In article <2v9gvn$t...@vuokko.uta.fi> mat...@uta.fi (Todd Palmer) writes:
>No dogs or bunnies, but I was thinking of getting miniture sap buckets for
>my maples. I'm originally from Michigan so Maple syrup was a big deal. In
>order for a maple to look truly mature it has to have a syrup bucket or two
>hanging on it.

Craft stores are a good source for things miniature. The doll house
people must like well-stocked homes. Tiny buckets are usually among
their offerings. Heck, they probably even sell teeny-tiny bottles of
maple syrup for the kitchen table.
--
Hud Nordin
Cybernetic Arts h...@netcom.com
Post Office Box 2066 Telephone 408.248.0377
Sunnyvale, California 94087 Facsimile 408.248.0416

HARVEY ROWE MD

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Jul 5, 1994, 12:39:08 AM7/5/94
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To hell with all these bunnies, gnomes, sap buckets, and stuff like
that. What I want is a miniature good ol' American plastic pink
flamigo, or one of those painted wooden duck silhouettes with the
fans for wings that spin in opposite directions when the wind blows.
That, and some miniature concrete deer, and I could die a happy man.

***************************************************************************
Harvey Rowe " The opinions expressed above are solely those of
row...@lp.musc.edu this guy, I don't even know who he was, who just
Charleston, SC broke in here and started typing stuff. I tried
Earth to stop him, but then he shot me with this green
Sol paralyzer beam. I swear it wasn't me."
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jed...@indyvax.iupui.edu

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Jul 5, 1994, 11:30:06 AM7/5/94
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What? No concrete pig? Or a donkey being led by a sombrero wearing gentleman?
(is that pc or what!!)....hmmm methinks you need the FULL collection to
die happy! 8-)
mir...jee

Eugenia D. Conway

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Jul 5, 1994, 1:23:45 PM7/5/94
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On Tue, 5 Jul 1994, HARVEY ROWE MD wrote:

> To hell with all these bunnies, gnomes, sap buckets, and stuff like
> that. What I want is a miniature good ol' American plastic pink
> flamigo, or one of those painted wooden duck silhouettes with the
> fans for wings that spin in opposite directions when the wind blows.
> That, and some miniature concrete deer, and I could die a happy man.
>
> ***************************************************************************
> Harvey Rowe " The opinions expressed above are solely those of
> row...@lp.musc.edu this guy, I don't even know who he was, who just
> Charleston, SC broke in here and started typing stuff. I tried
> Earth to stop him, but then he shot me with this green
> Sol paralyzer beam. I swear it wasn't me."
> ***************************************************************************

How about one of those plywood cows painted white and black. I bet most
anyone could produce a miniature version of one of those!

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Jean Conway
eco...@nmsu.edu
These are my own opinions - no one else's
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Sandy Vrooman

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Jul 5, 1994, 4:33:36 PM7/5/94
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>
>Anyway, I was wondering, in the interests of verisimilitude, whether the bonsai
>group had any plans to incorporate bonsai bunnies into their landscapes. Or course, I realise, you would have to bind up the bottom portions of your trees to
>prevent rabbit gnawing/ringing of the young shoots, wouldn't you?
>
>Hope you all don't mind a little joshing now and then. Am I taking the piss, or
>what? Speaking of which, how about miniature dogs? Sorry, couldn't resist.
>
>Actually, I wanted to thank the group for posting re the bonsai show in
>Yorkshire, to which I direct my mate this weekend. Thanks a lot and cheers.
>

When my son was 9 years old he wanted a root over rock bonsai with a
missle site. Bonkai is the form of miniturization that likes the bunnies
and such. Bonsai is sparse so the imagination can run wild. With bunnies
you the artist create a more specific mood rather than an emotional push
to imagine yourself where the tree is placed.

SAndy Vrooman

John Yasaki

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Jul 7, 1994, 2:15:56 AM7/7/94
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On Tue, 5 Jul 1994, Sandy Vrooman wrote:

> When my son was 9 years old he wanted a root over rock bonsai with a
> missle site.
>

> SAndy Vrooman
>

Did he want a _working_ missile site? if so, maybe it waasn't really the
plant at all (problem with that damned kid down the street?).

OK, OK, sorry...

john

Sandy Vrooman

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Jul 7, 1994, 11:21:20 AM7/7/94
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>> To hell with all these bunnies, gnomes, sap buckets, and stuff like
>> that. What I want is a miniature good ol' American plastic pink
>> flamigo, or one of those painted wooden duck silhouettes with the
>> fans for wings that spin in opposite directions when the wind blows.
>> That, and some miniature concrete deer, and I could die a happy man.
>>
>> ***************************************************************************
>
>How about one of those plywood cows painted white and black. I bet most
>anyone could produce a miniature version of one of those!
>
Once we put a minature car under a friend's redwood that had a natural
"bridge" created by the root structure.
Sandy Vrooman

James Lewis

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Jul 7, 1994, 2:46:43 PM7/7/94
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Roy . .. y'all come down heauh to Flo-rida. I c'n lead you to the
most delicious pottery shops . . .

Jim Lewis - jk...@freenet.scri.fsu.edu
. . . Without ecology . . . there would be no economy.

Richard A Govoni

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Jul 8, 1994, 3:56:32 PM7/8/94
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What about using minature redwoods and using a small z-gauge train!
Bring the old west back to life.

Rick

James Lewis

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Jul 10, 1994, 2:17:12 PM7/10/94
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My wife the artist carved a very realistic, five-inch snail out of a
beautiful piece of soapstone. I keep it on my main bonsai table. On my
"bonsai-under-development table, I have a 2-inch high, white porcelain
Kwannon; somehow a bit of a very hairy moss attached itself to her
skirt and now has grown half-way up her body; a Goddess-eating moss. Now
I'm looking for a fat-bellied Buddha for the other end of the table.
--

Katrina Bromley

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Jul 11, 1994, 10:08:40 AM7/11/94
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Since we're still on this subject, how about recycling our old failed trees
with some artistic wood carving or furniture making. Most of us would have
some pretty exotic wood to make picnic tables, anironidak chairs, carvings
of elfs etc.

Katrina Bromley
Systems Analyst II
University of Arkansas - Fayetteville

KBRO...@SATURN.uark.edu
KB8...@UAFSYSA.uark.edu

Hud Nordin

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Jul 11, 1994, 1:57:43 PM7/11/94
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In article <C76B9...@uasaturn.uark.edu> Katrina Bromley <KBRO...@SATURN.UARK.EDU> writes:
>Since we're still on this subject, how about recycling our old failed trees
>with some artistic wood carving or furniture making. Most of us would have
>some pretty exotic wood to make picnic tables, anironidak chairs, carvings
>of elfs etc.

Fortunately, I do not kill enough bonsai that I would ever have enough
wood to make furniture.

I did press an expired Serissa foetida into service as the "plantlife"
in my tarantula terrarium. There had been just a couple rocks sitting
on some gravel, so this dry bush added some reality to the scene.

Now all it needs is another tarantula; several years ago mine committed
suicide by climbing out of the terrarium and flinging herself onto the
floor. Splat.

Carl Morris

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Jul 12, 1994, 10:11:31 AM7/12/94
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>I did press an expired Serissa foetida into service as the "plantlife"
>in my tarantula terrarium. There had been just a couple rocks sitting
>on some gravel, so this dry bush added some reality to the scene.

>Now all it needs is another tarantula; several years ago mine committed
>suicide by climbing out of the terrarium and flinging herself onto the
>floor. Splat.

Sounds like you still have your tarantula terrarium sitting out somewhere
on display. I can imagine the fun you have with visitors:

Visitor : "What's this?"
Hud : "A tarantula terrarium."
Visitor : "Uh... where's the tarantula?"
Hud : "What do you mean? It was there a second ago. Hey, what's that
on the back of your leg? Stand veeeeeeeery still now..."

-- Carl

ca...@iplmail.orl.mmc.com

OBBonsai: A while back I had a Ficus that I was training into a cascade jump
off my third floor balcony, it survived. More recently I had a
Chinese Elm jump off, it survived too. Both trees are growing better
than ever, I wonder if the near-death experience made them appreciate
life more? Hmmm... maybe some of those slow growers would perk up if
I just gave them a little nudge closer to the railing now and then. :)

John Yasaki

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Jul 12, 1994, 3:56:18 PM7/12/94
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On Tue, 12 Jul 1994, Carl Morris wrote:

> OBBonsai: A while back I had a Ficus that I was training into a cascade jump
> off my third floor balcony, it survived. More recently I had a
> Chinese Elm jump off, it survived too. Both trees are growing
better
> than ever, I wonder if the near-death experience made them
appreciate
> life more? Hmmm... maybe some of those slow growers would perk up
if
> I just gave them a little nudge closer to the railing now and then.
> :)
>

I had a Japanese Black Pine in a training pot which decided to attemp
suicide from my second story balcony. It survived. My car windshield didn't.

john

StraussR

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Jul 12, 1994, 5:47:01 PM7/12/94
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In article <Pine.3.89.9407121...@ed.clpccd.cc.ca.us>, John
Yasaki <jya...@ED.CLPCCD.CC.CA.US> writes:

<<<I had a Japanese Black Pine in a training pot which decided to attemp
suicide from my second story balcony. It survived. My car windshield
didn't.>>>

Yes JBP can be very hardy.

I have a mugho that I dug up and left in the garage for a week and half
last summer while I tried to decide whether to pot it up or toss it out. I
finally potted it and its also exhibiting the same vigor of having
survived a near-death experience.

Roy Strauss
stra...@aol.com


Sandy Vrooman

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Jul 13, 1994, 11:16:42 AM7/13/94
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Thats interesting, when mine fall 4.5 feet from the shelves and merely
break a limb, they expire.

Sandy Vrooman>

Carl Morris

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Jul 14, 1994, 1:31:59 PM7/14/94
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<stories about trees falling off balconies deleted>

sa...@twg.com writes


>Thats interesting, when mine fall 4.5 feet from the shelves and merely
>break a limb, they expire.

In my case (third floor balcony), both trees had a long enough drop to
stabilize in an upright position before impact. Guess there's probably
a minimum height that's required. One of the great mysteries of life is
why trees have evolved to survive falls from high places but not from low
places.

Maybe prehistoric trees were a lot more active than their modern-day
counterparts. Maybe they frequently experienced falls from high places
while, err... hunting their prey! Yeah, I can picture how it must have
been:

Witness the might of the magnificent ghinko as it leaps from a
cliff to pin its hapless prey! Its roots bulge mightily as it
strives to throttle the terrified brontosaurus. The brontosaurus
counter-attacks by ripping off mouthfuls of foliage. Who will
win in this clash of titans?!?

That's what happened to all the dinosaurs: trees ate them. After all the
dinosaurs were gone, trees had to adapt. They became much smaller and less
mobile once they started relying on the nutrients in soil for the bulk of
their food supply. But they still retain vestiges of their prehistoric
past in the form of a reflex which allows them to right themselves when
dropped from a great height.

Huh? Oh, sorry, guess I got a little carried away there... :)

-- Carl

ca...@iplmail.orl.mmc.com

Eugenia D. Conway

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Jul 14, 1994, 7:06:17 PM7/14/94
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Maybe bonsai trees and cats diverged from the same branch far back in
history. Cats, too, do better at surviving a long drop than a short one.
Weird, but true. Maybe they think that after falling so long, they must
already be dead, relax, and do a good job of landing. So keep those ledge
dwelling bonsai happy and relaxed!

John Yasaki

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Jul 14, 1994, 6:36:08 PM7/14/94
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On Thu, 14 Jul 1994, Carl Morris wrote:

> Maybe prehistoric trees were a lot more active than their modern-day
> counterparts. Maybe they frequently experienced falls from high places
> while, err... hunting their prey! Yeah, I can picture how it must have
> been:
>
> Witness the might of the magnificent ghinko as it leaps from a
> cliff to pin its hapless prey! Its roots bulge mightily as it
> strives to throttle the terrified brontosaurus. The brontosaurus
> counter-attacks by ripping off mouthfuls of foliage. Who will
> win in this clash of titans?!?
>
> That's what happened to all the dinosaurs: trees ate them. After all the
> dinosaurs were gone, trees had to adapt. They became much smaller and less
> mobile once they started relying on the nutrients in soil for the bulk of
> their food supply. But they still retain vestiges of their prehistoric
> past in the form of a reflex which allows them to right themselves when
> dropped from a great height.
>


Yeah, OK, I buy that, but were they cold-blooded or warm-blooded?


john

Rodney L. Boleyn

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Jul 15, 1994, 2:09:34 PM7/15/94
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In article <Pine.3.89.9407121...@ed.clpccd.cc.ca.us>,

John Yasaki <jya...@ED.CLPCCD.CC.CA.US> wrote:
>
>I had a Japanese Black Pine in a training pot which decided to attemp
>suicide from my second story balcony. It survived. My car windshield didn't.
>
>john

Well of course it survived, with a nice windshield to break its fall!! :-)


Sandy Vrooman

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Jul 15, 1994, 5:17:58 PM7/15/94
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>>Thats interesting, when mine fall 4.5 feet from the shelves and merely
>>break a limb, they expire.
>
>In my case (third floor balcony), both trees had a long enough drop to
>stabilize in an upright position before impact. Guess there's probably
>a minimum height that's required. One of the great mysteries of life is
>why trees have evolved to survive falls from high places but not from low
>places.
>
>Maybe prehistoric trees were a lot more active than their modern-day
>counterparts. Maybe they frequently experienced falls from high places
>while, err... hunting their prey! Yeah, I can picture how it must have
>been:
>
> Witness the might of the magnificent ghinko as it leaps from a
> cliff to pin its hapless prey! Its roots bulge mightily as it
> strives to throttle the terrified brontosaurus. The brontosaurus
> counter-attacks by ripping off mouthfuls of foliage. Who will
> win in this clash of titans?!?
>
>That's what happened to all the dinosaurs: trees ate them. After all the
>dinosaurs were gone, trees had to adapt. They became much smaller and less
>mobile once they started relying on the nutrients in soil for the bulk of
>their food supply. But they still retain vestiges of their prehistoric
>past in the form of a reflex which allows them to right themselves when
>dropped from a great height.
>
There was a horticulturist named fog
Who invented a tree tht could jog
When full grown
Had a mind of it's own
And pissed on a dog

Sandy Vrooman

Bernard McPhail

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Jul 18, 1994, 11:19:45 AM7/18/94
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In article <Pine.3.07.9407141716.A7895-9100000@dante>, "Eugenia D. Conway" <eco...@NMSU.EDU> writes:
|> Maybe bonsai trees and cats diverged from the same branch far back in
|> history. Cats, too, do better at surviving a long drop than a short one.
|> Weird, but true. Maybe they think that after falling so long, they must
|> already be dead, relax, and do a good job of landing. So keep those ledge
|> dwelling bonsai happy and relaxed!
|>
Amazing... I heard a radio program about this just the other
day! It seems cats reach a terminal velocity of about 60 mph when
they fall. It takes about five floors for them to reach this speed.
If they fall from much higher than five floors they have time to
adjust and to land on their tummy and chest. No real harm done.
If they fall from much less than this, they're not travelling
fast enough and will also come out unscathed. Somewhere in
between, say 3 to 8 floors, is where they're most at risk.

bernard ------- BNR Ltd. ---
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