Inhalants and septum piercings
Eyezik
I haven't seen this subject mentioned in the piercing FAQ, but I was
wondering what kind of effects inhalants have on septum piercings, if any.
I had my septum pierced about two weeks ago, so yes, it is still in it's
initial healing stage. Other than the blood crusties the first few days,
the piercing is healing beautifully, and I am very happy with it. However,
I occassionally use an inhalant marketed as video head cleaner, or
'poppers' as they are called. I haven't inhaled anything since I got my
septum piercing, and was wondering if it was safe to do it even though the
piercing isn't fully healed. I mean, it's not like I'm wiping the chemical
ONTO the piercing, or putting it in...I mean, I'm just inhaling fumes.
Could this slow down the healing process or maybe irritate the pierce in
any way? Perhaps somebody has some interesting anecdotes on this...
Any help would be appreciated!
Eye...@aol.com
*smart-ass comments and flames void where prohibited by law*
Geoffrey Feldman
never said this to anyone...
You are an idiot.
Using an inhalent with a septum pierce is incredibly dangerous for the following
reason. Using an inhalent without a septum pierce is incredibly dangerous.
Much more of the inhalant will be taken into your blood through your lungs than
would ever go in through the piercing wound.
Your bodies ability to function with a particular dose of this stuff goes down
slightly with each experience. This is because your livers ability to absorb
the poison (and any other poison) is being reduced. Eventually you will have
a close call and get scared or you will die. It's kinda hard to say which one
is gonna happen for you.
If you are asking this question about the inhalent, it is obvious that you dont
understand the physiology of these substances.
Have a real nice life, it will probably be short.
Geoffrey
Kirsch
eye...@aol.com (Eyezik) writes:
> I haven't seen this subject mentioned in the piercing FAQ, but I was
> wondering what kind of effects inhalants have on septum piercings, if any.
Don't make your nose pump and throb. Don't play with your
capillary dilation. Don't expose new cells to deadly amyl
nitrate vapor. This needn't be in the FAQ, as it usually goes
without saying. Take care of your health while you heal.
Kirsch
Tobe Schultz
>
> Hi everybody...
>
> I haven't seen this subject mentioned in the piercing FAQ, but I was
> wondering what kind of effects inhalants have on septum piercings, if any.
>
> initial healing stage. Other than the blood crusties the first few days,
> the piercing is healing beautifully, and I am very happy with it. However,
> I occassionally use an inhalant marketed as video head cleaner, or
> 'poppers' as they are called. I haven't inhaled anything since I got my
> septum piercing, and was wondering if it was safe to do it even though the
> piercing isn't fully healed. I mean, it's not like I'm wiping the chemical
> ONTO the piercing, or putting it in...I mean, I'm just inhaling fumes.
> Could this slow down the healing process or maybe irritate the pierce in
> any way? Perhaps somebody has some interesting anecdotes on this...
>
> Any help would be appreciated!
>
> Eye...@aol.com
> *smart-ass comments and flames void where prohibited by law*
this is Qathi posting from Tobes machine (household o'geeks and one straight edge...Tobe)
DON'T BE AN IDIOT!!! Video head cleaner?! I _have_ to flame you...dumbass! What are you doing to
your brain with that shit? "...if it was safe to do it even though the piercing isn't fully
healed..." Is it ever safe to do? Your JUST inhaling fumes?! THINK!!!!
Qathi
...snippy snippy snip...
> Could this slow down the healing process
Apparently, it has already slowed your thought processes to molasses -- if something is a stupid
thing to do before you're pierced, it will remain a stupid thing to do afterwards -- stick to
cleaning yer VCR with that shit, and clean your piercing with diluted Bactine! I _never_ flame,
but I can't remain silent on this one...
Tobe
TupeloMiss
I teach special needs high school kids. One of my kids has to have school
at home -- he used to inhale anything he thought might get him high --
something happened and the flux muscles (I think that's what they're
called) in his digestive tract are now completely worthless. He can only
eat very bland food, no soda, no alcohol, no fast food -- if he eats
anything forbidden or gets the least bit excited, agitated or stressed, he
pukes.
That's permanent. Fun life huh? Worth the high, wouldn't ya say?
Michelle Penson
: Hi everybody...
: I haven't seen this subject mentioned in the piercing FAQ, but I was
: wondering what kind of effects inhalants have on septum piercings, if any.
: I had my septum pierced about two weeks ago, so yes, it is still in it's
: initial healing stage. Other than the blood crusties the first few days,
: the piercing is healing beautifully, and I am very happy with it. However,
: I occassionally use an inhalant marketed as video head cleaner, or
: 'poppers' as they are called. I haven't inhaled anything since I got my
: septum piercing, and was wondering if it was safe to do it even though the
: piercing isn't fully healed. I mean, it's not like I'm wiping the chemical
: ONTO the piercing, or putting it in...I mean, I'm just inhaling fumes.
: Could this slow down the healing process or maybe irritate the pierce in
: any way? Perhaps somebody has some interesting anecdotes on this...
I am shocked that you even care what will happen to the pierce. Where's
the logic: you want to expose you brain to toxic chemicals, but you're
concerned about a septum infection. New twist to beauty is only skin deep..
As for intersting anecdote:
My friends and I thought it was harmless to huff glade. Mike is dead.
Lungs froze. The look on his face as he suffocated will never leave my
memory... the bulging eyes filled with panic, his skin fell slack from
his checks, his mouth turned blue, he feel to the floor. That was it.
no heroics, no miracle saves - just dead at 16, smelling like pot pourri.
He didn't have a septum pierce, but I don't think it would have mattered.
Michelle
K. Quinn
>Eyezik (eye...@aol.com) wrote:
>: Hi everybody...
>
>: I haven't seen this subject mentioned in the piercing FAQ,
>:but I was wondering what kind of effects inhalants have on
>:septum piercings, if any.
>
>: I had my septum pierced about two weeks ago, so yes, it is
>:still in it's initial healing stage. Other than the blood
>:crusties the first few days, the piercing is healing
>:beautifully, and I am very happy with it. However, I
>:occassionally use an inhalant marketed as video head
>:cleaner, or 'poppers' as they are called. I haven't inhaled
>:anything since I got my septum piercing, and was wondering
>:if it was safe to do it even though the piercing isn't
>:fully healed. I mean, it's not like I'm wiping the chemical
>:ONTO the piercing, or putting it in...I mean, I'm just
>:inhaling fumes.
>: Could this slow down the healing process or maybe irritate
>:the pierce in any way? Perhaps somebody has some
>:interesting anecdotes on this...
>
>I am shocked that you even care what will happen to the
>pierce. Where's the logic: you want to expose you brain to
>toxic chemicals, but you're concerned about a septum
>infection. New twist to beauty is only skin deep..
I am mildly surprised that someone who subscribes to a
bodyart newsgroup is lecturing other people on what they
should and shouldn't do to their bodies...
FWIW Amyl nitrate is not exceptionally toxic (Remember the
ol' Paracelsus thing about everything being a poison if you
use enough of it..) From what I remember, Amyl nitrate will
dilate blood vessels and increase the blood supply to your
septum, and in theory at least, facilitate healing. However,
since your septum is essentially still an open wound, it
would be a very bad idea to bring any unecessary chemicals
into contact with it. Lay off for a while.
>As for intersting anecdote:
>
>My friends and I thought it was harmless to huff glade.
>Mike is dead. Lungs froze. The look on his face as he
>suffocated will never leave my memory... the bulging eyes
>filled with panic, his skin fell slack from
>his checks, his mouth turned blue, he feel to the floor.
>That was it. no heroics, no miracle saves - just dead at
>16, smelling like pot pourri.
>He didn't have a septum pierce, but I don't think it would
>have mattered.
Why does the above paragraph read like a scene from
"Married with Children"?
Well I'm genuinely very sorry for your friend. A shame. But
it was his own stupid fault really, wasn't it?
This is what you can expect for messing around with
chemicals. Having said that, I think everyone should be free
to poison themselves as they see fit, don't you?
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Kirsch
Tobe Schultz <tsch...@halcyon.com> writes:
> Eyezik wrote:
[snip]
> > I occassionally use an inhalant marketed as video head cleaner
[snip]
> > Any help would be appreciated!
[snip]
> this is Qathi posting from Tobes machine (household o'geeks and one straight edge...Tobe)
>
> DON'T BE AN IDIOT!!! Video head cleaner?! I _have_ to flame you...dumbass! What are you doing to
> your brain with that shit? "...if it was safe to do it even though the piercing isn't fully
> healed..." Is it ever safe to do? Your JUST inhaling fumes?! THINK!!!!
>
> Qathi
>
> ...snippy snippy snip...
> > Could this slow down the healing process
>
> Apparently, it has already slowed your thought processes to molasses -- if something is a stupid
> thing to do before you're pierced, it will remain a stupid thing to do afterwards -- stick to
> cleaning yer VCR with that shit, and clean your piercing with diluted Bactine! I _never_ flame,
> but I can't remain silent on this one...
>
> Tobe
Isn't it odd that champions of cultural and religious freedom
excuse those who choose to hurt helpless others with practices
such as circumcision, yet those who choose to hurt themselves
are condemned. The failure of many who choose to post here to
conform to greater societal expectations should give us a
common tolerance of the transgressions of cultural rules,
whatever the reason. Can anyone demonstrate why amputating a
digit is less wrong than killing some brain cells? I advocate
neither, yet I can't condemn anyone who chooses what I would
see as a loss for myself, provided that he is the only one
affected and that he is willing to deal with the consequences.
On the other hand, someone who recommends to a vulnerable
audience the use of recreational inhalents to clean sensitive
equiptment without disclosing the inherent dangers of this
misuse of the product must be stopped. I await a retraction.
Kirsch
LYNN JENSEN
What kind of dumbass are you to inhale that crap? You actually think
it will heal your piercing, come on and get real!!! All that crap can
do besides actually cleaning your VCR is kill your dumb ass!
Michelle Penson
: mpe...@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Michelle Penson) wrote:
: >Eyezik (eye...@aol.com) wrote:
: >: Hi everybody...
: >
: >: I haven't seen this subject mentioned in the piercing FAQ,
: >:but I was wondering what kind of effects inhalants have on
: >:septum piercings, if any.
[snip]
: >I am shocked that you even care what will happen to the
: >pierce. Where's the logic: you want to expose you brain to
: >toxic chemicals, but you're concerned about a septum
: >infection. New twist to beauty is only skin deep..
: I am mildly surprised that someone who subscribes to a
: bodyart newsgroup is lecturing other people on what they
: should and shouldn't do to their bodies...
Well most body modifications discussed here are not dangerous to the
person's health. Even with the riskier piercings a lot heat is raised -
remember the uvula threads?
: FWIW Amyl nitrate is not exceptionally toxic (Remember the
: ol' Paracelsus thing about everything being a poison if you
: use enough of it..) From what I remember, Amyl nitrate will
: dilate blood vessels and increase the blood supply to your
: septum, and in theory at least, facilitate healing. However,
: since your septum is essentially still an open wound, it
: would be a very bad idea to bring any unecessary chemicals
: into contact with it. Lay off for a while.
I assume you are posting with first hand knowledge? Otherwise it is a
bit irresponsible to post that the chemical might acually help healing.
The fact is the mixture may contain ethel alcohol to aid evaporation,
which would seriously deter healing due to the nature of ethel alcohol to
detroy live cells once across the cell membrane.
: >As for intersting anecdote:
: >
: >My friends and I thought it was harmless to huff glade.
: >Mike is dead. Lungs froze. The look on his face as he
: >suffocated will never leave my memory... the bulging eyes
: >filled with panic, his skin fell slack from
: >his checks, his mouth turned blue, he feel to the floor.
: >That was it. no heroics, no miracle saves - just dead at
: >16, smelling like pot pourri.
: >He didn't have a septum pierce, but I don't think it would
: >have mattered.
: Why does the above paragraph read like a scene from
: "Married with Children"?
: Well I'm genuinely very sorry for your friend. A shame. But
: it was his own stupid fault really, wasn't it?
: This is what you can expect for messing around with
: chemicals. Having said that, I think everyone should be free
: to poison themselves as they see fit, don't you?
Yeah go ahead. Poison away. I really didn't have any intentions of
reply to the original post - you know, to each his own. But the fact that
the poster thought it was such a common occurance that it should've been
in the FAQ, and the line about amusing anecdotes really got to me. I
sensed that the poster felt his actions were really harmelss, and I
meerly wanted to show that there are two sides to every issue... I've
always considered myself very open minded, and I try not to make very
rash decisions. I do realize that the tone of my post did not convey
this, but I don't care. Part of being open minded and accepting is
allowing for other view points. I didn't feel very comfortable sitting
back and letting the original poster think the behavior is harmless. SO
I posted what I know firsthand. If this doesn't qualify for your
definition of accepting, I don't care. I wrote what I did out of
concern, not moral judgement.
Michelle, mpe...@astro.ocis.temple.edu
yes I know my spelling and grammer suck.
Geoffrey
yourself with inhalents much as you allege that we damage ourselves with
piercings, tattoos or severing fingers and the like?
Is that a proper summary.
So bet it.
However I am confused. Your original question indicated that you were confused
that you would damage yourself by using inhalents with a septum piercing. That
implied that you did not want to damage yourself.
OK, so we answered. It is dangerous to use an inhalent with a septum piercing.
You are damaging yourself. Your concern was valid if somewhat misplaced.
So, you are certainly free to damage yourself in any way you see fit. Kindly do
so in a way that does not put a burden on taxes and I have no issue whatever
with that.
Geoffrey
K. Quinn
I said:
>: FWIW Amyl nitrate is not exceptionally toxic (Remember the
>: ol' Paracelsus thing about everything being a poison if
>:you use enough of it..) From what I remember, Amyl nitrate
<:will dilate blood vessels and increase the blood supply to
>:Your septum, and in theory at least, facilitate healing.
>:However, since your septum is essentially still an open
>:wound, it would be a very bad idea to bring any unecessary
>:chemicals into contact with it. Lay off for a while.
>
>I assume you are posting with first hand knowledge?
>Otherwise it is a bit irresponsible to post that the
>chemical might acually help healing.
>The fact is the mixture may contain ethel alcohol to aid
>evaporation, which would seriously deter healing due to the
>nature of ethel alcohol to detroy live cells once across the
>cell membrane.
I am not posting with first hand knowledge, because I
wouldn't touch *any* 'chemicals' with a ten foot bargepole.
I am also not an expert. But if it eases anyone's conscience,
i do have a degree in pharmacology and am studying for a PhD
in it now. So believe it or not, I do actually know what I am
talking about :^). Amyl nitrate *would* theoretically
faciliate healing, but partially for the reason you mention
above, would be a bad idea. Your fears about ethyl alcohol
fumes are fairly unfounded because very little of the septum
pierce would come into contact with them.
>: >As for intersting anecdote:
>: >
>: >My friends and I thought it was harmless to huff glade.
>: >Mike is dead. Lungs froze. The look on his face as he
>: >suffocated will never leave my memory... the bulging eyes
>: >filled with panic, his skin fell slack from
>: >his checks, his mouth turned blue, he feel to the floor.
>: >That was it. no heroics, no miracle saves - just dead at
>: >16, smelling like pot pourri.
>: >He didn't have a septum pierce, but I don't think it
would
>: >have mattered.
>
>: Why does the above paragraph read like a scene from
>: "Married with Children"?
>: Well I'm genuinely very sorry for your friend. A shame.
But
>: it was his own stupid fault really, wasn't it?
>: This is what you can expect for messing around with
>: chemicals. Having said that, I think everyone should be
free
>: to poison themselves as they see fit, don't you?
>
>
>I didn't feel very comfortable sitting back and letting the
>original poster think the behavior is harmless. SO
>I posted what I know firsthand. If this doesn't qualify
>for your definition of accepting, I don't care. I wrote
>what I did out of concern, not moral judgement.
At a guess, he probably knows his behaviour isn't harmless
(in fact he later e-mailed me and told me that he'd really
cleaned up his act lately), but the use of amyl nitrate is
quite widespread. I'm not a gay bloke, or a particularly
experimental woman, so I don't know personally, but
apparently it's commonly used as an aid to anal sex.
Your concern for him is well founded and seemingly well
meant, but I think he felt slightly hurt himself that so many
people were having a go at him in what is normally a forum
where people discuss the things they do to their bodies.