>If he really loves you the nipple rings won't matter a bit. He might even
>like them. Maybe you can get him a matched set for his nipples.
Right on! Nipple rings are hot. When I found out my new girlfriend had them, I
was curious and secretly turned on, though a little wary. Well, we talked
about it and I eventually got to experience them first hand. Incredible! Now I
want some... and now I subscribe to this newsgroup!
If you guy is squemish, talk to him and find out why. Maybe he thinks it
hurts you, etc. The more he understands and feels free to be curious, alarmed,
etc., the more likely he is to eventually accept and embrace!
Good luck. Let us know what happens...
Amanda,
I think this is wonderful. My wife adores my one nipple ring, so
much so that I intend to have the other one done as a New Year
present to both of us. The original one is a ball closure ring, but
I would very much like to have it fixed permanently. Several months
ago there was a discussion here about permanent fixtures - not just
nipple rings. I would love to hear how you had them done permanently
and what gauge they are. You shouldn't be ashamed of your piercings.
They are (quite literally) part of you.
Love to hear from you.
Liam
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> I have thoroughly enjoyed them and have them
>removed, which I understand would be a complicated process anyway
I assume you mean don't want to have them removed.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by permanent rings, but I would assume
that you must be a fairly open-minded person to have tried piercing and to
be here on RAB. Considering that, it is doubtful that you would get
serious with someone that couldn't understand if you explained it to him.
If he can't, then maybe it's best you find out early in the relationship.
Personally seeing a picture of a woman's pierced nipple was what first
interested my in piercing. I studied the subject, found out everything I
could about it. Then talked to my wife who told me it was my body and up
to me. Even then I agonized over it for two years before I pierced my
nipples, mainly because her response was less than excited about the
prospect. I finally did it last october. My wife was a little shocked that
I actually went through with it, but she found she likes them. So much so
she is considering piercing one of her nipples to try it out.
Alvin
Then too, if you do have your rings removed, it will still be
immediately apparent that your nipples are pierced (although the
holes will all but disappear over time). There is a distinct
possibility that the guy will be offended that you had them removed
without allowing him the opportunity to voice his opinion on removal
or retention.
All in all, I suspect that removing them poses as much risk to the
relationship as keeping them. Besides, if this relationship
collapses, you'll want to keep them anyway (as you said, you are
very pleased with your nipplerings). Since there is similar risk to
the relationship in either case, I say vive la nipplerings!
>A woman having pierced nipples is a lot more understandable (and by
>some individuals, acceptable) than if a man does.
What makes you think so? This is the first opinion I've ever heard that a
person's sex is a factor in the acceptance of pierced nipples.
You have to be who YOU are. If he can't understand that, then he is
wrong for you.
Melissa
>What makes you think so? This is the first opinion I've ever heard that
a
>person's sex is a factor in the acceptance of pierced nipples.
Could it be like the male bi-sexual issue......???
Bi-sexuality in women seems to be a desirable trait....ie 3 some, voyeur
fantasies and all.....but bi-sexuality in men is largely a major no-no.
AND yes folks...this felling existing long BEFORE AIDS....so don't use
that cop out excuse pleasssssse!!
In my persoanl experience...(I am a male bi-sexual).....many men, NOT ALL,
I KNOW !!! who have nipple piercings are gay or bi.....therefore it may
indicate a person's sexual preference if a man's nipple is pierced...and
why it is OK for a woman....not for a man.....
BTW I abhore these thoughts in people...I just find them to be
prevalent...
]
Avalon....
3 years ago this may have been true. Nowadays, We pierce many more
straight men's nipples than we do gay-identified men.
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http://www.access.digex.net/~perforat (202) 289-8863
>Could it be like the male bi-sexual issue......???
>
>In my persoanl experience...(I am a male bi-sexual).....many men, NOT
ALL,
>I KNOW !!! who have nipple piercings are gay or bi.....therefore it may
>indicate a person's sexual preference if a man's nipple is pierced.
this is stereotyping at its worst. I would think someone who is in one of
the many catagories that are looked down upon by "The Average American"
would know better than to use these crass and sweeping generalizations. I
can tell you from "personal experience" that the average person doesn't
yet know enough about piercing to think of it in any terms. Most people
are shocked, appalled, confused, indignant and disgusted. The same
reaction was apparent in the fifties toward the duck tailed hoods like
James Dean, in the sixties to hippies, and so on. If people who are part
of mainstream stereotyping buy into it, what chance is there of ever
overcoming it?
>In my persoanl experience...(I am a male bi-sexual).....many men, NOT ALL,
>I KNOW !!! who have nipple piercings are gay or bi.....therefore it may
>indicate a person's sexual preference if a man's nipple is pierced...and
>why it is OK for a woman....not for a man.....
>BTW I abhore these thoughts in people...I just find them to be
>prevalent...
>]
>Avalon....
When I first read this, my knee-jerk reaction was that this was somebody
who was severely homphobic. Then I noticed that the poster claims to be a
male bi-sexual and suddenly it all made sense. Of course, in his personal
experience, many men who have nipple piercings are gay or bi; after all, he
probably socializes with many more shirtless gay or bi men than with shirtless
heterosexual men.
This led to wonder what percent of the RAB is gay or bi (I know, curiosity
killed the cat). The stereotype is that if you have piercings, you must be
gay, a sexual deviant, or a rebellious college student. Since we had a
poll on the ages of RABbits, why not find out how many of us fit this little
demographic mosaic?
Thank you....I am fer sure not a homophobe ...never was or have
been.....my sister is gay......
BTW I also realized that being from the SF Bay Area....where in the
Castro at least....men are often shirtless.....that this entire region may
see pierced nipples on gay/bi men primarily and jump to conclusions....
sort of like if you wear a black leather jacket.....wear a beard....have
and earing and ride a bike you're a Hell's Angel.....and yes it is a
stereotype pigeon hole reaction....but as much as I hate it....isn't that
what western society seems to be VERY good at? putting people into little
boxes so they can be catagorized?
THAT is what I was trying to get at....
AvalonSM
btw I have 3 piercings....nipples and guiche...more to come
but then again.....how many places do ya go where ya see shirtless men?
- Mike
>This led to wonder what percent of the RAB is gay or bi (I know, curiosity
>killed the cat). The stereotype is that if you have piercings, you must be
>gay, a sexual deviant, or a rebellious college student. Since we had a
>poll on the ages of RABbits, why not find out how many of us fit this little
>demographic mosaic?
Ok. I know of at least 2 other 20-something, bi or lesbian womyn with
purple hair and 3/4 shaved heads on this group...maybe we were separated
at birth?
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Anne Greenblatt
Piercing FAQ Manager for rec.arts.bodyart
Proprietor - Piercing Exquisite, Richmond, Va.
COMING SOON IN THE NEW YEAR * THE WEBPAGE!
Well, I am gay, but working in a fairly upscale corporate environment, (oh the wonders of
septum retainers and long sleeved shirts :).
I think body art may be more prevalent in the gay and/or bi communities because as a group
that has already broken one of the "big" morays of polite society, there is a certain
tendancy toward non-judgementalism, or at the very least more of a live and let live
attitude. Not universal by any means, gays can be judgemental asses just like anyone else,
but the culture tends to value non-conformity to a greater degree than most heterosexual
cultures.
Cort Odekirk
http://www.halcyon.com/maelstrm/homepage.html
56, gay, 9 pierces
Bob
<snip>
>Since we had a
>poll on the ages of RABbits, why not find out how many of us fit this
>little
>demographic mosaic?
>
Sex................................Male
Sexual preference............Heterosexual
Pierced...........................Yes, only 3 in left ear
Tattooed..........................Yes, heavily
somebody's got to go first,
TATTUDE
: >This led to wonder what percent of the RAB is gay or bi (I know, curiosity
: >killed the cat). The stereotype is that if you have piercings, you must be
: >gay, a sexual deviant, or a rebellious college student. Since we had a
: >poll on the ages of RABbits, why not find out how many of us fit this little
: >demographic mosaic?
Bi, female, 2 piercings besides my ears, one little tat, and
usually not a sexual deviant.
Shechemist
--
S Nelson
"Help me I broke apart my insides. Help me I've got no soul to sell.
Help me the only thing tha works for me. Help me get away from
myself"
-NIN
Well, I'm pretty sure I'm not gay or bi.
I was also going to deny the "sexual deviate" label, but then I realized
that I
now live in Iowa. It may be, here, that people who put metal rings through
their
nipples - with, at least, a passing interest in tugging on them during
passionate
moments - are, by definition, sexual deviates.
I do have to confess that I was, indeed, a "rebellious college student."
My
politics were just a bit to the left of Mr Hoffman, and I was asked to
leave more
than one institute of higher learning.
The odd thing, though, - given how many years it's been since those
halcyon days
- is that I didn't get pierced until a couple months ago. After becoming
"middle-class" and "old" and a member of the "Establishment", I wonder why
I did
it now.
Perhaps it has everything to do with how time has passed. I've spent a
long
time learning to try to shed guilt and hopelessness, and I think it's
slowly
beginning to work! It's a new feeling for me - freedom. I think most
pierced
folks are more than gay or bi or deviant. I think they are trying to grab
a bit
of personal freedom - and hope. Perhaps gay and bi people are more likely
to have
left behind some of the restraints of social appraisal - or been convinced
that
they're never going to win that game, so why bother? That may be why they
seem
more likely to have taken ownership of themselves - and marked their new
property
with a distinctive bit of metal.
On the other hand, I may just be raving nuts. :-)
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2152 Grand Ave 19, West Des Moines, IA 50265 high...@dsmnet.com
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Zach
: >This led to wonder what percent of the RAB is gay or bi (I know, curiosity
: >killed the cat). The stereotype is that if you have piercings, you must be
: >gay, a sexual deviant, or a rebellious college student. Since we had a
: >poll on the ages of RABbits, why not find out how many of us fit this little
: >demographic mosaic?
Gender: Female
Orientation: None to speak of at the moment
Pierces: 8
Tats: 4
Other: 1 waist chain that will have to be cut off
Sexual Deviance:Huh?
Rebellious College Student: No, University, Yes
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Male. Heterosexual. 1 Earring, left ear. 1 tattoo, upper left arm.
:)
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| Galactic Cowboys
>I think body art may be more prevalent in the gay and/or bi communities
>because as a group
>that has already broken one of the "big" morays of polite society . . .
I really don't know about piercing (I'm not gay or bi and I have three
pierces, all below my neck - go figure), but my guess on tatooing would be
that the miltary (especially the Navy) would have about the highest
percentage of bodies with art on them. I met other sailors from countries
all over the world when I was in, and most had tatoos. My one tatoo was/is
more of a symbol of belonging (real sailors have tatoos), than to any
commmitment to personal bodyart. But then that was almost 20 years ago.
Hmm, bi, a sexual deviant (or so some people tell me) but I wasn't a
particularly rebellious college student...
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>This led to wonder what percent of the RAB is gay or bi (I know,
curiosity
>killed the cat). The stereotype is that if you have piercings, you
must be
>gay, a sexual deviant, or a rebellious college student. Since we had
a
>poll on the ages of RABbits, why not find out how many of us fit this
little
>demographic mosaic?
Age: 26.5
Gender: M
Orientation: straight (so far)
Depravities: A full accounting would be a waste of bandwidth <G>
Occupation: Geologist/Mineralogist
Piercings: Left nipple (14ga CBR), left lobe (which has been empty for
a *long* time.)
Tats: Four
Marital status: Married 5 yrs.
"You shut up. *You* are the audience. *I* am the author. I OUTRANK
you!" -Franz Liebchen
>This led to wonder what percent of the RAB is gay or bi (I know, curiosity
>killed the cat). The stereotype is that if you have piercings, you must be
>gay, a sexual deviant, or a rebellious college student. Since we had a
>poll on the ages of RABbits, why not find out how many of us fit this little
>demographic mosaic?
Age: 20.5
Gender: M
Orientation: straight
deviancy: Into BDSM and TG stuff
occupation: Computer Science student on Co-op as UNIX Sysadmin
Piercings: Tragus and left lobe at 16g, Toungue at 12g (will be redone soon)
Tats: none
marital status: engaged
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> but then again.....how many places do ya go where ya see shirtless men?
How about the sauna at the health club? After my aerobics class I sat
in the sauna. It's hard to cover up piercings (nipple and PA) in the
sauna, so I said to myself "What the hey." Sure enough a gay guy from
my class starts up a conversation, though never mentioning the
piercings. I kept up the conversation but indicated that I wasn't
interested in a relationship. When it comes down to it, being "hit on"
is always flattering.
Dunno if you're going to get an accurate idea in this way, because publicly
identifying one's self as heterosexual doesn't carry consequences. Anyone
who's read this newsgroup for more than 5 minutes knows by now that i'm gay,
but once upon a time i was terrified at the prospect that anybody would
discover my Terrible Secret.
boy brent, who celebrates the 15th anniversary of his coming out next March.
boy brent | Blob Dough sez:
bca...@cse.ogi.edu | "Vote for me and I'll eat a bug!"
Well, I guess I fit it relatively well; 21, bi, at least slightly rebellious in
college, multiple pierces and tats. Although I've never fit the stereotypical
'fashion' concept that most people have. I look like a stereotypical farm girl
(or an eastern european housewife) most of the time. Only visible bodyart is my
tragus piercing, which most folks don't notice anyway. Oh well, my two cents.
--Sarah
>In article <1996Jan2.1...@gems.vcu.edu>, vshow...@gems.vcu.edu wrote:
>>This led to wonder what percent of the RAB is gay or bi (I know, curiosity
>>killed the cat). The stereotype is that if you have piercings, you must be
>>gay, a sexual deviant, or a rebellious college student. Since we had a
>>poll on the ages of RABbits, why not find out how many of us fit this little
>>demographic mosaic?
Hi,
24 (will be quarter of a century April 10 !).
lesbian.
attended some university, wasn't particularly rebellious.
1 tattoo during university.(next one in the planning stages)
2 pierces (soon to be 3) obtained after my dalliance with higher
education.
not particularly sexually deviant either. although open minded :)
ambur
I do not feel that my sexua
I have two erlobe pierces- right ear (4 and 6 G.) Two nipple pierces -8 G barbells - vertical
and 2 Hafadas 12 g-niobium and an 6 G PA and an 6 Amp.
I do not concider the fact that I am gay has anything what so ewer to do with that I am
tattooed and pierced.
Lars-Ake
I am a bisexual female, and I got both of my nipples done October
7th. My boyfriend and about 10 of my close friends are bisexual as well,
and none of them have their nipples pierced. A co-worker did his own, and
he is totally straight.
--
-+{ Heather Baker }+-
Always on the lookout for a good friend or two.
Ummm...where do I lie in the sexual spectrum? I'd probably say
straight...although I am slightly bi curious. I've been out of college
for a while so I can't say that my piercings are out of rebellion. And I
wouldn't consider issues/activities of power exchange as sexual
deviations. So, where do I fit? As for my mods? I've got the
obligatory/socially acceptable ears (8 in total)...and both my nipples
(one by Brian Murphy at Guantlet, S.F. and one by ardvark). And in the
next week I'm getting a frenum..or if they'll do it at the same time, a
ladder. And three tats and a back piece in progress.
If anyone was interested.
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home page, just a construction page: http://haven.ios.com/~frozen2s/ Oh
yeah, "Intolerance is a sign of Ignorance."
Hmm... well, I think it's just a coincidence, but I got my first pierce
(a PA) at about the same time I started questioning my assumption that I
was heterosexual. I can't really say that my current knowledge of my
bisexuality has anything to do with my piercing.
I do think I qualify as a rebellious college student, though - at least
for a few more months :)
--mark
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"You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred."
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corn...@jmu.edu * http://falcon.jmu.edu/~cornicms/
female, 23, capricorn, straight, 6 current pierces (nose, tongue,
earcart, nipple, two navels, (clit hood soon to come?? ;)
seven tats (three ankle, one stomach, one wrist, one shoulder, back of
neck)
fiancee is straight, 23 with both nips done and several tats.
in case anyone really cares...
Maxine
=84Love, where is thy sting?
>cba...@ix.netcom.com(Charles L. Basso Jr. ) wrote:
>>In article <1996Jan2.1...@gems.vcu.edu>, vshow...@gems.vcu.edu
>>wrote:
>>
>>>This led to wonder what percent of the RAB is gay or bi (I know,
>>curiosity
>>>killed the cat). The stereotype is that if you have piercings, you
>>must be
>>>gay, a sexual deviant, or a rebellious college student. Since we had
>>a
>>>poll on the ages of RABbits, why not find out how many of us fit this
>>little
>>>demographic mosaic?
> yrs.
female 50 (but look early 30s--honest--I'm not just saying that!)
pierces: got a navel pierce today yea!!!!; other pierces are eyebrow, nose,
ear cart, and regular ear piercings. More to come.
tats: 4: one on each arm; 1 in collarbone area; another on back left
shoulder blade
I'm straight, though one never knows. I don't think, though, that my body art
has much of a sexual connotation to it. It's just something I always wanted
to do.
Marley
>Marley
I forgot to add I've *always* been a rebellious college student, although
rebellion and Ohio State at the present time is an oxymoron. Back
when I was in undergraduate school in Canton, Ohio (1964-1969) one would not
have visited a tattoist without an armed guard. The first person I knew who
ever got tattoos (outside of military men) was in 1970. He had a beautiful
set it jungle birds on both arms he'd gotten Bogota.. Up to that point I'd
thought that tattoos were limited to "Mom" and naked women.
Marley
My husband now has a nipple, PA, and 2 earrings cause he liked the way they
looked on me. I don't think either of us got pierced because we're gay.
Or perhaps indirectly... As a gay man, I'm already on the fringe, and being
on the fringe allows a greater degree of freedom. I'm not trying so hard to
fit into a mold, so I feel free to do whatever I diddly-damn please to myself.
Kinda like being liberated.
Just my 3.5 cents.
Jeff N.
"Life is too short to take seriously."
Oh, WOW what a great idea. I have a friend who breeds hedgies, too,
maybe she's got a litter coming soon....
Well, here goes...
AGE: 26
SEX: Male
ORIENTATION: Hetero
PIERCINGS: Left nipple, considering an ampallang
INK: 2 tats, Jolly Roger on the right shoulder, Yosemite Sam on the left
MISC: Overeducated, underemployed college grad, purveyor of the RAB Love
Hose, 6 cups of coffee/day addict.
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Writer, RABbit, * plunder..." - Jimmy Buffett
caffeine addict *
* "They can have my coffee cup when they pry it from
* my cold, dead fingers!" -NB
"The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
24 yo
Rebellious? I wouldn't say so. More so your atypical doctoral student
who enjoys cartoons and reminding people that their preconceived notion
of an economist is probably incorrect. I tend to dress, I would say,
conservatively most of the time. Pants, usually cords, dress shoes (DM
monk strap), an oxford style shirt (no tie), and a rain shell.
Sexuality? Um, well not sure these days. I've always found members of
both sexes attractive but have only dated one man as opposed to six
women. I think that perhaps I'm a Kinsey (for those who believe it) 5.5
or so. Straight is 6, correct? Anyway, my piercings are so far from my
sexuality I just dont' comprehend how people make any such connection.
I guess that's my 2 cents worth.
robert.tempted
Oh, the RAB calender is fantastic! Thanks Lani and all you others that
were involved in getting that out.
>In article <1996Jan2.1...@gems.vcu.edu>, vshow...@gems.vcu.edu wrote:
>>This led to wonder what percent of the RAB is gay or bi (I know, curiosity
>>killed the cat). The stereotype is that if you have piercings, you must be
>>gay, a sexual deviant, or a rebellious college student. Since we had a
[snipity...snip...]
Male, gay, pierced: PA, both nips, but I didn't like the way one
was healing, so I took it out. That was 10 yeasrs ago. I keep
thinking that SOMEDAY I'll get it repierced. You know...SOMEDAY!!
Al
MJ
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I guess I'm just addicted
To the pain of delight
-Melissa Etheridge
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30+; leatherdyke (I don't know if that means I'm deviant or not); 5 pierces, one expanding
tattoo (so far).
Gaby
Gender: Male
Orientation: Straight
Currently playing on TV: Webmaster
Student life: Been there, taking an extended sabbatical. Reasonably
rebellious, or at least ecclectic/iconoclastically leaning.
Tattoos: 2, with vague plans for more.
Pierces: 7 (9 minus 2 empty holes in one ear) with vaguer thoughts
about more.
Sexually deviant: Not really. Intellectually curious and open minded,
though.
Bodyart/Sexuality connection: Yeah, I see a connection between many of
my bodmods and my sexuality, but more to it's expression in general
(and I guess to their specific uses as well), than to that particular
part of my sexuality that is my preference.
-Andy
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Sex................................Male
Sexual preference..................Heterosexual (and a bit of a perv.)
Pierced...........................Yes, about 26 still in.
Tattooed..........................Yes, on my way to a body suit
Joe T.
P>Gender: Male
>Orientation: Straight
>Occupation: Tattoo Artist/Sysop
>Pierces: 2 Left ear
>Tattoos: 2 many 2 count
Steve
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Since I killfiled *@Prodigy.com, I've been much happier!
Piercings: (deep breath) septum, two right eyebrow, two Labrets, tongue,
both tragus', right Daith, left lower Conch (with keloid), right Helix,
various lobe, 4 10ga outer labia and 10ga horizontal hood. I've had an
equal number of piercings that didn't work out for what ever reason - bad
placement, bad healing (nipple, labia, 3 nostril, ear cartilage).
Ink: The ivy that will eventually creep around and down my body, Celtic
right forearm wrap, unfinished white and purle tribal, deadly nightshade
armband, erotic orchid on back of right shoulder, and misc. stuff that
needs fixin'.
Sexually deviant? Well...we do have am extensive bondage room..."ponyboy."
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Anne Greenblatt
Piercing FAQ Manager for rec.arts.bodyart
Proprietor - Piercing Exquisite, Richmond, Va.
COMING SOON IN THE NEW YEAR * THE WEBPAGE!
I think you mean kinsey .5 (0 is totally het, 6 is totally homo).
Obthread: kinsey 1.5, computer geek, enagaed, polyamorous, 9 pierces, 2 tats.
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Dekard Software, Inc. | Ann Arbor, MI | I am the business." -Rachael, BR
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age : 24.5
gender : F
orientation : mostly but not completely straight (ok, Lani, so you were
kinda right about the gaydar thingie)
deviant : given the right person and situation, probably
occupation : public librarian
piercings : both (symmetry is the key here) : tragii, rooks, lobes,
cartilege, and nipples.
tattoos : two, with at least two more planned
i wasn't much of a "rebel" at my undergraduate college, although i didn't
exactly fit in, either. then, i've never really fit in anywhere (: i
stood out in graduate school mostly because the average age of the
students in my program was around 37. my interest in bodyart, and
piercing in particular, developed way before my [actually very
current] realizations/personal admission that i'm not completely
straight and that i'm somewhat of a deviant (: i see it more as a
coming together of the various things about me that make me the
whole person that i am and always striving to be.
katester
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"The New Year is the usual time to make resolutions, so I guess I'll go
with the flow. I resolve to keep griping, exercise less, and learn to
say "Buzz off, Creep" in a new language every day."
http://www.grfn.org/~kapohj -Maxine, Shoebox Greetings
>>I think body art may be more prevalent in the gay and/or bi communities because as a group
>>that has already broken one of the "big" morays of polite society, there is a certain
> ^^^^^^
>Seen once in a .sig:
>
>"When an eel bites your thigh
> as you're swimming by
> That's a moray..."
>
Bwaaah ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!
Now that I've caught my breath from that fit of laughter:
Age: 39
Sex: female
Orientation: bi
Deviant: Whenever I get the chance!
Occupation: Office manager for major newspaper; record store peon (it's
not a job, it's nothin' but a party, y'all!)
Piercings: Three holes in one ear lobe, two in the other, considering my
options for futher piercings (one of my best friends and
fellow record store peons is our local piercing goddess)
Tats: Right ankle--the mantra Om Mani Padme Hum in Sanskrit, two small
lotus blossoms, large lotus on inside of leg; left ankle--cute
little leaping dolphin that needs some touch-up work, soon to be
joined by a Celtic band and who knows what else. Considering work
for shoulders and lower back. Can't get enough of that inky
stuff!
I was an extremely rebellious teenager and college student, so I find it
very ironic that now, later in life when I have more balance and am more
settled into myself as a person, is when I am exploring the wonderful
world of bodmods. Every tat and pierce is a celebration, and expression,
of who I am and how happy I am to be here!
Cheers, dears!
Kati
PS. Thanks, Mama Lani, for the groovy calendar! Somehow, I knew that's
what Brent would look like (horns and all)!
: Good to you Michael! - this must be the blatant height of rude inpertinence
: against us gays that reads this newsgroup- this year.. so far..
: Why do you flaunt your sexual preference as an important fetature in
: your post ?
: Do you have anything to say -exept that you are straight ?
: Are you pierced or tattooed ?
: Take care-play safe,
: Lars-Ake
: *** A gay man is good to find ! ***
This isn't meant as a flame or anything, but I find it interesting that
Lars berates (not a little one, either - 'blatant height of rude inpertinence
against us gays') msuzio for allowing his sexual preference to be an
'important feature' to his post, yet his own .sig does just that. :-)
Moral of the story (?): Before berating someone for professing their
sexuality, realize that many people are proud of their their sexuality,
regardless of what it is (as both msuzio and Lars have demonstrated)
Ob post: Has anyone ever had any problems using irregularly shaped 'balls'
on the ends of their tongue barbell? I've had my tongue pierced for almost
5 months now, and have seen some interesting barbell 'ends' (skulls, etc),
but was wondering if hte odd shape would aggravate the tongue or the roof
of my mouth?
- Myrddin
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> 30+; leatherdyke (I don't know if that means I'm deviant or not)
Only if you do it right!
Jase
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.This led to wonder what percent of the RAB is gay or bi (I know,
.curiosity
.killed the cat). The stereotype is that if you have piercings, you
.must be
.gay, a sexual deviant, or a rebellious college student. Since we had
>a
>poll on the ages of RABbits, why not find out how many of us fit this
>little
>demographic mosaic?
> yrs.
Age: 26, mostly het (except for lately - but that's a long story), 11 pierces
(5 ear, septum, both nipples, navel, both inner labia..and a triangle as soon
as I can save enough pennies..:)), no tats yet ( I haven't had a design cry
out to me yet....if you know what I mean....), I've got dreds that are dyed
pink (does that count?) Occupation: Gaffer (Film Industry lighting designer)
I never really thought of myself as 'rebellious' (but I went straight from
Mr. Rodgers to Black Flag, so what I consider run of the mill is probably
rebellious by most peoples standards) or sexually deviant- I just have my own
ideas about what's fun ;)
Eileen
-who's been working way too much lately....
"God gave us a penis and a brain, but only enough blood to run one at a
time."
-Robin Williams
> I am a bisexual female, and I got both of my nipples done October
>7th. My boyfriend and about 10 of my close friends are bisexual as well,
>and none of them have their nipples pierced.
So...all the responses from bisexual pierced and inked womyn have me
wondering - why can't I find any of you here?
Which brings up another matter...I feel I must maintain a professional
relationship with my clients. It kills me when a beautiful young woman
comes in and I must refrain from asking her out...:P
It's been 10 months too long...sigh.
They aren't here in Las Cruces NM either. Or if they are, they
are well hidden.
Shechemist
--
S Nelson
"Help me I broke apart my insides. Help me I've got no soul to sell.
Help me the only thing tha works for me. Help me get away from
myself"
-NIN
>What do I look for that will tell me if the person or salon is OK or not
>OK? Can they really grow out? 14 or 18 gauge? Gun or needle? Forcepts
>or not? Thanks to you all from Agle
>
>
If you are going to put a hole in a boat, you definalty need a gun, a big
gun. Somewhere around 50 calibre.
Thanks
mark
Gender: Female, age 36.
Orientation: Bi, married to a man. 1 great kid.
Studenthood: Many moons ago, wild and rebellious, still having fun!
Tattoos: 2, planning more.
Pierces: 5 in ears, enough for me (although I'm pining for my long lost
self-cartilage pierce that closed up years ago...).
Sexual: Fun lovin' "bad girl"!
Job: Librarian
Bodyart/Sexuality connection: Erotic enhancers, but no expression of sexual
preference.
Cynthia
The opinions of these self-styled art lovers (experts,
connoiseurs, etc.) leaves much to be desired. I put in my
$0.02 already. Anyone else here care to comment?
Gaby
Gaby
and what do you do if they ask YOU out?
I've had clients who later approach me at nightclubs ask me out...I
figure this is fine, since this an informal social setting, rather than a
professional one. :)
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Jeff
- brookes
also want to get more tats as soon as i can make up my mind about
what/where to get them!
>
>So...all the responses from bisexual pierced and inked womyn have me
>wondering - why can't I find any of you here?
>
>W
Let's see, there are 200 million people in the US and there are a couple
of dozen bi, inked, and pierced women that post in this group. It does
seem odd, doesn't it :>}
BTW, why do you spell it womyn?
MJ
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To the pain of delight
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Who, lil ol' me? >;)
boy brent | Blob Dough sez:
bca...@cse.ogi.edu | "Vote for me and I'll eat a bug!"
No, ma'am! Nothing wrong at all! Good point. But to comment on Anne's
original post about the invisibility of inked and pierced bi womyn, I
think that we don't stand out from the crowd precisely because our
bi-ness allows us to move quite comfortably beyond the artificial
barriers set up by society to identify people by sexual preference. In
other words, we're equally at home with hets and gays. So, unless you
do a little prospecting, you never know if that tattooed, pierced gal pal
you always assumed to be het is actually wanting an up-close-and-personal
look at your own bodyart!
Kati
planning on a veritcal hood (next week, with luck)
and at least 1 tat on my inner thigh.
wam
"Reality is in the mind of the beholder"--unknown
>Anne Greenblatt (ard...@richmond.infi.net) wrote:
>: Which brings up another matter...I feel I must maintain a professional
>: relationship with my clients. It kills me when a beautiful young woman
>: comes in and I must refrain from asking her out...:P
>
>and what do you do if they ask YOU out?
>
>I've had clients who later approach me at nightclubs ask me out...I
>figure this is fine, since this an informal social setting, rather than a
>professional one. :)
Ah...but you are *lucky* in that you have *clubs* to go to. Richmond is
oppressive sometimes, too much attitude in certain circles, and I don't
like Avail.
>purveyor of the RAB Love Hose
And what a fine hose it is! ;)
female, straight, age 20. always was rebellious in high school, and really
took off when i got my nose pierced. since then, i'm a dominant female,
(sado/masochism), don't know if you'd call that a sexual deviant, haven't
gotten any tattoos yet, but there's two planned for the future, and i
have 17 piercings... 6 in one ear, 7 in the other, the nose, both
nipples and the naval. there's a slight possibility of another "below
the belt" piercing, but i'm a little iffy on that one...
cassandra 'spirit'
9311...@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca
>Ummm... is there something wrong with
>lesbians? ;-)
Absolutely nothing! Just that I understand a good portion of the lesbian
community sees us bi's as sitting on the fence, or the extreme, we're
resposible for infecting lesbians with HIV. And gads I'm married to a het
boy.
I do have a few close dyke friends, though. But I always feel WEIRD going
into the local bookstore...uh...yes, I'm wearing a skirt, and this is my
HUSBAND...
Well, if it's long-running discussions you want, there's been a
controversy for nigh-on thirty years or longer between members
of the literary/fine arts culture and members of the scientific
community about who gets bragging rights for the term "intellectual."
If some in the humanities can't even accept the idea of *science*
as a worthwhile pursuit, it would hardly surprise me to see a handful
of self-styled art snobs looking down their noses at something as
new [sic] as body art.
OK, might as well jump in.
AGE: 26 tomorrow (January 12)
SEX: Male
ORIENTATION: Hetero
PIERCINGS: 2 lobe, 1 tongue
INK: 2 tats - wall flash type (I LIKE flash) Left arm - rose/dagger, right arm -
shamrock and my name
MISC: College drop out, trade school completely unrelated to my current field,
part-time musician (or at least trying)
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>Sorry 'bout this, but I just saw somebody mention "ampallang/pallang".
>Is there such a piercing, and could somebody describe it to me?
From the Piercing FAQ:
*Ampallang*
Initial healing: 6 to 10 months.
The Ampallang is made horizontally through the glans (head). There is some
debate among piercers regarding the placement of the Ampallang. A piercing
intersecting the urethra is in effect two piercings, allowing urine to irrigate
through the piercings. Piercers who prefer the transurethral piercing
contend that a transurethral piercing tends to heal faster and be stronger than
a piercing made above the urethra.
Initial jewelry: Barbells in 14 to 10 gauge; the length of the
barbell must be determined by measuring the penis while it is
erect, using calipers.
*Apadravya*
Initial healing: 4 to 8 months; maybe less if the piercing is a continuation
of the Prince Albert.
The Apadravya is made vertically through the glans, and is often a
continuation of the Prince Albert. Both the Ampallang and Apadravya will
bleed considerably during the first week. They may take a year or more to
completely heal.
Mine started growing out after two years, I took it out at three.
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Gawd i wish people would just get over themselves and stop being
so judgemental of others. If somebody wants to be bisexual i say
live and let live. The only thing that gets me steamed are those
bisexuals who go around making condescending remarks about
"monosexuals", or who opine that everyone is basically bisexual
when the truth is that they're just overgeneralizing on the basis
of their own experiences. That really torques my knobs.
Yes, but we forgive you because he's a very cute little het boy.
--scott
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E. George Oeser
Just a thought --
Sarah Jahn
Texas A&M Archaeology Ph.D. program
My curiosity hasn't killed any cats yet...I think thats another newsgroup.
qathi
Agreed. From the beginning i don't know what this thread was
trying to prove.
>Just a thought --
>Sarah Jahn
>Texas A&M Archaeology Ph.D. program
This thread started out trying to find out if most pierced males were bi
or gay. If only bi and gay people replied then we wouldn't find out.
Actually I thought it was odd that all the females have been replying (as
this started out by someone saying that most of the men with nipple rings
they knew were bi or gay), but I figured that someone out there would keep
track and give us a statistical summary for both genders sometime later.