After My First Tattoo (some questions)
Marian
After most of a lifetime of thinking tattoos were "cool" and that all
I'd really need to do was find a design that I'd be willing to put on
my body for the rest of my lifetime I formally decided on June 12,
2000 after waking up (which was a cause for celebration in and of
itself) in Shock Trauma intensive care that even if I still didn't
know what I very definitely knew where.
Even before I had any clue of how extensive the damage to my leg was I
knew it was going to be bad ugly.
This summer my surgeons finally gave their approval. I could
potentially still go for more surgery in the future so certain areas
were still off limits (unless you really want us ruining your pretty
artwork) but I had the okay. And I had nearly 10 months to go before
my June 11th unbirthday which is usually celebrated by doing something
big in recognition of how wonderful it is to be not dead.
Due to a regrettable incident involving homophones and friends with a
sense of humor my Chinese name means "rose." Worse than cute it's so
adorable it's presh. About 6 months ago some one who was trying way
too hard to be clever at me asked if I was a thorn bearing rose
(referring to a current infectiously annoying mandy pop song) and I
had my idea.
My tattoo was done on June 9. I am now a thorn bearing rose. I have
quite realistic rose brambles emerging from a disturbingly realistic
bruised hole in my ankle (right over the site of one of the removed
screws) and wrapping around my ankle. There are also three almost but
not quite ready to bloom orangey yellow rose buds to clue in the
people who don't otherwise recognize the leaves and thorns as
specifically being rose brambles.
The artist came recommended and, including the fabulous custom
drawing, I'm pretty pleased with the work he did. Pleased enough that
I've already recommended him to someone else. But the minimalist
aftercare instructions were a) verbal and b) in Chinese and even if
I've already done well enough on the standardized Chinese Proficiency
Exam that I could enter a Chinese university as an undergraduate if I
really wanted to I always feel a bit more comfortable when it's
something new or difficult or totally different to get some
explanations and answers in my native language as well.
I've already done a fair bit of research on the internet which has
already answered some of my other questions that I'm not going to post
here.
1) I left the studio with nothing on my leg but vaseline based
aftercare ointment. The afternoon of the second day after the tattoo
I started getting some ink colors on my sheets. Today is the evening
of the third day. I've now got a bandage and extra amounts of
wonderfully soothing vaseline above and beyond the aftercare ointment
he gave me and I'm still seeing some colors when I change the bandage.
Is this normal? Should I be worried?
2) My skin is really warm to the touch at the tattoo site. Sort of
like a seriously skinned knee which I guess is kind of what it is.
Not quite hot just really warm. And my ankle isn't swollen merely
itchy (another reason why I added the bandage).
Again, is this normal? Or should I be worried?
3) The artist told me if I wanted to I could get take some antibiotics
as a just in case. This not merely being the tropics but also being
the tropics in China this probably isn't such a bad idea. (I was also
told to only wash the tattoo site with clean boiled water.)
Unfortunately I didn't recognize the Chinese names of any of the
antibiotics he specifically suggested. I can get just about
everything except the super fast super new superdrugs over the
counter. (In the past I've usually not done anything unless the
wound is already dripping goo and I've not cared about scarring since
bicycling related road rash is a scar to be worn with pride but this
is different.)
Are there any antibiotics which anyone here can recommend as
prophylactics against potential skin infections?
Guess that's it...
Thanks for any help you can give.
-M
Kavin...@gmail.com
> Um, hi, I'm new here.
<snipped story of tattoo and antibiotics>
> Thanks for any help you can give.
Taking antibiotics simply to prevent what may or may not happen is not
a good idea.
And do not listen to healing advice from Curt James. (But you can
listen to lish's advice).
Kavin
N Jill Marsh
And post some pictures, dammit.
nj"sheesh"m
--
"I do not rhyme to that dull elf
Who cannot imagine to himself..."
sca...@gmail.com
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:32:08 -0000, "KavinTay...@gmail.com"
>
> <KavinTay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jun 12, 11:03 am, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Um, hi, I'm new here.
>
> ><snipped story of tattoo and antibiotics>
>
> >> Thanks for any help you can give.
>
> >Taking antibiotics simply to prevent what may or may not happen is not
> >a good idea.
>
> >And do not listen to healing advice from Curt James. (But you can
> >listen to lish's advice).
>
> And post some pictures, dammit.
>
> nj"sheesh"m
>
> --
> "I do not rhyme to that dull elf
> Who cannot imagine to himself..."
Yes, do.
Meanwhile, I interpreted some of your fairly flowery prose to be
saying that you're glopping a lot of stuff, vaseline based and
otherwise, on your tattoo.
Stop it. Now.
You only need moisturizer (Lubriderm or similar if you can get it)
applied VERY lightly, after washing the tattoo off. You only need to
wash it once a day unless you're in the habit of rolling around in cat
poo or something similarly icky. If during the day the tattoo should
start to feel a bit dry and the skin a bit tight (and this is
preferable to gloppy with goop), add a bit more moisturizer.
Do not overmoisturize, gloppy sticky tattoos bleed out color faster
than, um, a really really fast thing that's fast (I think I just
channelled Hugh Laurie in Blackadder...)
I am Very Heavily Tattooed. It works. Caring for a tattoo is
something like caring for a colorful rugburn or scraped knee, except
you do want to keep it from drying out and not scab. Keep it clean,
and if necessary moisturize only if it feels dry. That's really all
you need to do.
Susan
http://scamptattoo.com (which hasn't been updated in a dogs age... )
sca...@gmail.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
Oh, and stop bandaging it - it needs to get some air.
N Jill Marsh
>On Jun 12, 4:42 pm, N Jill Marsh <njma...@storm.ca> wrote:
>>
>> And post some pictures, dammit.
>>
>Yes, do.
I was talking to you, preemptively, so to speak.
nj"dammit"m
Curt
> Um, hi, I'm new here.
Welcome.
> <snip> Shock Trauma intensive care <snip>
Good to hear you survived.
Wait. You're not an axe murderer, are you?
> Even before I had any clue of how
> extensive the damage to my leg was I
> knew it was going to be bad ugly.
With that kind of intro, I'm interested in what actually happened.
> <snip> surgeons finally gave their approval. <snip>
Congrats.
> <snip> June 11th unbirthday
Happy Belated!
[...]
> I've already done well enough on the
> standardized Chinese Proficiency
> Exam that I could enter a Chinese
> university as an undergraduate if I
> really wanted to <snip>
Cool.
Is that Mandarin, Cantonese, other?
> <snip> left the studio with nothing on my
> leg but vaseline based aftercare ointment.
Btdt:
http://www.geocities.com/curt_james/calvin.html
> The afternoon of the second day after the tattoo
> I started getting some ink colors on my sheets.
I slept with my leg outside or on top the sheets.
> Today is the evening of the third day. I've now
> got a bandage
On day three, Calvin saw no bandage. Neither did Hobbes. By then I was
leaving it air dry with the very slightest hint of A&D ointment
smoothed across its surface.
> and extra amounts of wonderfully soothing
> vaseline above and beyond the aftercare
> ointment he gave me
Likewise on the above and beyond action. Actually, none on the above
and beyond. It was the wisp of A&D and nothing else.
> and I'm still seeing some colors when I
> change the bandage.
Stop with the bandages. Again, I was letting my tattoo uncovered and
with only the slightest dab of A&D. Like you, I was seeing some colors
but they weren't on a bandage. Instead the color was in the form of
ink sweats or however you'd like to describe it.
Blood, afaik, initially made the yellow of Calvin's hair appear orange
and I silently questioned that, however kept my mouth shut to the
tattoo artist, iirc.
> Is this normal?
Yes.
> Should I be worried?
No.
(However I really would stop the bandage action.)
> <snip> My skin is really warm to the touch
> at the tattoo site. Sort of like a seriously
> skinned knee which I guess is kind of what it is.
> Not quite hot just really warm. And my ankle
> isn't swollen merely itchy (another reason why
> I added the bandage).
>
> Again, is this normal? Or should I be worried?
I've never experienced what you describe with any of my three tattoos.
Doesn't mean it's not normal, of course.
> <snip> artist told me if I wanted to I could get
> take some antibiotics as a just in case.
Just-in-case antibiotics, from what I've read, isn't the wisest course
of action.
> This not merely being the tropics but also being
> the tropics in China this probably isn't such a
> bad idea.
Otoh, I'm not looking out a window at the tropics in China either.
> (I was also told to only wash the tattoo site
> with clean boiled water.)
That available to you?
> Unfortunately I didn't recognize the Chinese names of any of the
> antibiotics he specifically suggested. I can get just about
> everything except the super fast super new superdrugs over the
> counter.
No FDA interference, eh?
And super fast super new superdrugs? :oD
> Are there any antibiotics which anyone
> here can recommend as prophylactics
> against potential skin infections?
Dunno. Is there a "tropics in China" general equivalent to a family
doctor in your neck of the woods?
Fwiw, it sounds as if the ink sweats (or, yes, however you'd care to
describe that) is normal as ever. I'd give your colorful wound some
air and decrease by bunches 'n bunches the amount of goop you're
applying. No help with the antibiotic advice, however.
Best of luck. Please post a follow-up.
--
Curt
i'll teach you to turn away.
M> Um, hi, I'm new here.
http://compunction.org/healing.txt
lish "who the hell are you
cr...@got.net & why are you talking to me?" -pm
43.9% / 30 RANA 128 / 70
sca...@gmail.com
Oh, ok!
Well, not really scamptattoo, but a couple of recent photos can be
found at the bottom of <http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?
fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=37444240&albumId=0>
Marian
> Marian wrote:
> > Um, hi, I'm new here.
>
> Welcome.
>
> > <snip> Shock Trauma intensive care <snip>
>
> Good to hear you survived.
>
> Wait. You're not an axe murderer, are you?
Not as last I checked.
> > Even before I had any clue of how
> > extensive the damage to my leg was I
> > knew it was going to be bad ugly.
>
> With that kind of intro, I'm interested in what actually happened.
Chemical explosion caused by monumental stupidity on someone else's
part. Compound complex open tibia fibula fracture. The tibia was
almost but not quite shattered while the fibula was merely a spiral
fracture caused by my continuing to run (getting the hell out of
there) after my leg was already broken.
Brunt of the damage was my right leg. Some sunburn level mild
chemical burns and lots and lots of tiny chicken pecks from shrapnel
but I was very very very lucky.
Because my hometown (Baltimore, MD) has a number of world class
hospitals (like Johns Hopkins) I've consistently gotten top notch
medical care and for followups have frequently been the only person in
the waiting room who was even the slightest bit local.
> > <snip> surgeons finally gave their approval. <snip>
>
> Congrats.
>
> > <snip> June 11th unbirthday
>
> Happy Belated!
>
> [...]
>
> > I've already done well enough on the
> > standardized Chinese Proficiency
> > Exam that I could enter a Chinese
> > university as an undergraduate if I
> > really wanted to <snip>
>
> Cool.
>
> Is that Mandarin, Cantonese, other?
The HSK is actually for written Chinese. I took the exam with the
modern simplified characters. I can't understand a single word of
spoken Cantonese but the grammar and vocabulary differences between
the two don't really show up in writing at my level.
> > <snip> left the studio with nothing on my
> > leg but vaseline based aftercare ointment.
>
> Btdt:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/curt_james/calvin.html
Once upon a long time ago many members of the F-lun Gong (fill in the
blank with an "a") had websites on geocities. I do not know if this
is still true. I do know that the mainland firewall has never
unblocked geocities.
> > The afternoon of the second day after the tattoo
> > I started getting some ink colors on my sheets.
>
> I slept with my leg outside or on top the sheets.
>
> > Today is the evening of the third day. I've now
> > got a bandage
>
> On day three, Calvin saw no bandage. Neither did Hobbes. By then I was
> leaving it air dry with the very slightest hint of A&D ointment
> smoothed across its surface.
>
> > and extra amounts of wonderfully soothing
> > vaseline above and beyond the aftercare
> > ointment he gave me
>
> Likewise on the above and beyond action. Actually, none on the above
> and beyond. It was the wisp of A&D and nothing else.
The bandage was to keep the vaseline from making other things gunky.
It also keeps my fingernails away from it. The vaseline is like the
aftercare ointment only gloopier and more soothing. As I write this
my leg is open to the air and not currently itching.
> > and I'm still seeing some colors when I
> > change the bandage.
>
> Stop with the bandages. Again, I was letting my tattoo uncovered and
> with only the slightest dab of A&D. Like you, I was seeing some colors
> but they weren't on a bandage. Instead the color was in the form of
> ink sweats or however you'd like to describe it.
Okay.
> Blood, afaik, initially made the yellow of Calvin's hair appear orange
> and I silently questioned that, however kept my mouth shut to the
> tattoo artist, iirc.
With the exception of the photo realistic bruise that wasn't in the
preliminary drawing (but which makes the emerging bramble look
absolutely fantastic) I have no visible bleeding or scabbing and had
none when I left the studio. The friend who was watching the process
told me (and I don't know how much of this was true and how much of
this was soothing me) that she'd never seen a tattoo in process with
so little bleeding going on.
> > Is this normal?
>
> Yes.
>
> > Should I be worried?
>
> No.
>
> (However I really would stop the bandage action.)
>
> > <snip> My skin is really warm to the touch
> > at the tattoo site. Sort of like a seriously
> > skinned knee which I guess is kind of what it is.
> > Not quite hot just really warm. And my ankle
> > isn't swollen merely itchy (another reason why
> > I added the bandage).
>
> > Again, is this normal? Or should I be worried?
>
> I've never experienced what you describe with any of my three tattoos.
> Doesn't mean it's not normal, of course.
Currently normal temperature.
> > <snip> artist told me if I wanted to I could get
> > take some antibiotics as a just in case.
>
> Just-in-case antibiotics, from what I've read, isn't the wisest course
> of action.
>
> > This not merely being the tropics but also being
> > the tropics in China this probably isn't such a
> > bad idea.
>
> Otoh, I'm not looking out a window at the tropics in China either.
And there was this really nice mud puddle that I had to specifically
not take my freshly rebuilt mountain bike through <sigh> last night
when I decided to explore the area along the old railroad tracks.
I've even go so far as to reschedule the mountain bike's virgin group
ride for later in June.
> > (I was also told to only wash the tattoo site
> > with clean boiled water.)
>
> That available to you?
Yes, though I used bottled water since that takes less effort than
boiling it myself.
Unboiled tap water isn't always (often isn't) safe to drink
> > Unfortunately I didn't recognize the Chinese names of any of the
> > antibiotics he specifically suggested. I can get just about
> > everything except the super fast super new superdrugs over the
> > counter.
>
> No FDA interference, eh?
Pretty much.
> And super fast super new superdrugs? :oD
Can be purchased at the hospital. And are usually overkill for
whatever infection you have.
> > Are there any antibiotics which anyone
> > here can recommend as prophylactics
> > against potential skin infections?
>
> Dunno. Is there a "tropics in China" general equivalent to a family
> doctor in your neck of the woods?
The pharmacist. Who tried to sell me cinnamon oil when I bought the
vaseline. Cinammon oil is fabulous stuff for massage and is also a
pretty good antibacterial. Strangely enough the one variety I know
also works pretty good at keeping mosquitoes away. But it hurts to
even think of putting it on something that in any way resembles a
wound.
> Fwiw, it sounds as if the ink sweats (or, yes, however you'd care to
> describe that) is normal as ever. I'd give your colorful wound some
> air and decrease by bunches 'n bunches the amount of goop you're
> applying. No help with the antibiotic advice, however.
>
> Best of luck. Please post a follow-up.
I'll try to find a place to post pictures that doesn't require a log-
in.
-M
Marian
> On Jun 13, 5:47 am, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Marian wrote:
> > > <snip> left the studio with nothing on my
> > > leg but vaseline based aftercare ointment.
>
> > Btdt:
>
> >http://www.geocities.com/curt_james/calvin.html
>
> Once upon a long time ago many members of the F-lun Gong (fill in the
> blank with an "a") had websites on geocities. I do not know if this
> is still true. I do know that the mainland firewall has never
> unblocked geocities.
At 14:26 local time I accidentally clicked on this link (having
predictably failed to get through the time I clicked on it on purpose)
and -actually- got through. Cool tattoo. I really like the way the
back of your ankle is the rear of the image on the front of your
ankle.
Mine is probably about 3/4s the size of your's and ran me 1500rmb
total (about $195) for four hours including his final tweaks to the
preliminary drawing, drawing it on my leg, outline, colors, two
bathroom breaks, and a trip to the ATM.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53374875@N00/ should work. I've included
the first preliminary drawing (which is barely different from the
picture in the binder), the collection of botanical rose drawings and
the photo of a rose and rose thorns that I sent back, and the second
preliminary drawing.
-M
Kavin...@gmail.com
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/53374875@N00/should work. I've included
> the first preliminary drawing (which is barely different from the
> picture in the binder), the collection of botanical rose drawings and
> the photo of a rose and rose thorns that I sent back, and the second
> preliminary drawing.
Anyone else creeped out about the cloth covering on the table?
You might need the antibiotics after all.
Kavin
sca...@gmail.com
> On Jun 13, 5:47 am, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Marian wrote:
You get good answers from people with lots of well healed tattoos,
and you reply to the group village idiot. Sigh.
>
> > > The afternoon of the second day after the tattoo
> > > I started getting some ink colors on my sheets.
>
> > I slept with my leg outside or on top the sheets.
>
> > > Today is the evening of the third day. I've now
> > > got a bandage
>
> > On day three, Calvin saw no bandage. Neither did Hobbes. By then I was
> > leaving it air dry with the very slightest hint of A&D ointment
> > smoothed across its surface.
>
> > > and extra amounts of wonderfully soothing
> > > vaseline above and beyond the aftercare
> > > ointment he gave me
>
> > Likewise on the above and beyond action. Actually, none on the above
> > and beyond. It was the wisp of A&D and nothing else.
>
> The bandage was to keep the vaseline from making other things gunky.
> It also keeps my fingernails away from it. The vaseline is like the
> aftercare ointment only gloopier and more soothing. As I write this
> my leg is open to the air and not currently itching.
>
Do not put vaseline on it, it's responsible for the gunk. If it
itches that's normal and you use self-control to not scratch it. You
are throwing away the money you put into this tattoo by gooping it up
the way you're doing. At the very least you will need a touch up.
Oh, and please read this - approximately 98% of all rec.arts.bodyart
users agree with the sentiments:
Susan
http://scamptattoo.com
Kavin...@gmail.com
> On Jun 13, 12:37 am, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > Marian wrote:
>
> You get good answers from people with lots of well healed tattoos,
> and you reply to the group village idiot. Sigh.
I'll have your baby . . .
Kavin
Marian
> On Jun 13, 12:37 am, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 13, 5:47 am, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Marian wrote:
>
> You get good answers from people with lots of well healed tattoos,
> and you reply to the group village idiot. Sigh.
I needed to pick a message to respond to instead of writing basically
the same kind of response to every message. His seemed as good a one
as any other to write a response to as any other.
> > > > The afternoon of the second day after the tattoo
> > > > I started getting some ink colors on my sheets.
>
> > > I slept with my leg outside or on top the sheets.
>
> > > > Today is the evening of the third day. I've now
> > > > got a bandage
>
> > > On day three, Calvin saw no bandage. Neither did Hobbes. By then I was
> > > leaving it air dry with the very slightest hint of A&D ointment
> > > smoothed across its surface.
>
> > > > and extra amounts of wonderfully soothing
> > > > vaseline above and beyond the aftercare
> > > > ointment he gave me
>
> > > Likewise on the above and beyond action. Actually, none on the above
> > > and beyond. It was the wisp of A&D and nothing else.
>
> > The bandage was to keep the vaseline from making other things gunky.
> > It also keeps my fingernails away from it. The vaseline is like the
> > aftercare ointment only gloopier and more soothing. As I write this
> > my leg is open to the air and not currently itching.
>
> Do not put vaseline on it, it's responsible for the gunk. If it
Nothing but the aftercare ointment all day and I left the bandage off
keeping it open to the air.
> itches that's normal and you use self-control to not scratch it. You
> are throwing away the money you put into this tattoo by gooping it up
> the way you're doing. At the very least you will need a touch up.
Please explain to me the why behind this. I'm curious. Why is it
leaking color? Not a whole lot at first and even less now but
definitely color coming out in my sweat (noticeable on the top of my
sock from Sunday, didn't see it before) ...
Marian
wrote:> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/53374875@N00/shouldwork. I've included
> > the first preliminary drawing (which is barely different from the
> > picture in the binder), the collection of botanical rose drawings and
> > the photo of a rose and rose thorns that I sent back, and the second
> > preliminary drawing.
>
> Anyone else creeped out about the cloth covering on the table?
He had a pad of that white stuff (three or four layers thick) between
the leg he was working on and the table and he kept replacing it with
fresh clean ones and throwing the old ones (which were icky with ink
and some blood) in the garbage.
-M
Kavin...@gmail.com
> On Jun 13, 8:39 pm, sca...@gmail.com wrote:
> > You get good answers from people with lots of well healed tattoos,
> > and you reply to the group village idiot. Sigh.
>
> I needed to pick a message to respond to instead of writing basically
> the same kind of response to every message.
Except they were not "basically" the same message.
> His seemed as good a one
> as any other to write a response to as any other.
Notice he said A&D ointment. OINTMENT. Look up ointment.
Scamp said lotion.
The fact that his post was longer and had more butt-kissing is a clue.
Look for the inappropriate private e-mails from him. It happens.
Kavin
Curt
> Curt wrote:
> > Marian wrote:
> > > Um, hi, I'm new here.
>
> > Welcome.
>
> > > <snip> Shock Trauma intensive care <snip>
>
> > Good to hear you survived.
>
> > Wait. You're not an axe murderer, are you?
>
> Not as last I checked.
Cool.
> > > Even before I had any clue of how
> > > extensive the damage to my leg was I
> > > knew it was going to be bad ugly.
>
> > With that kind of intro, I'm interested in
> > what actually happened.
>
> Chemical explosion caused by monumental
> stupidity on someone else's part.
Zoinks!
> Compound complex open tibia fibula fracture.
> The tibia was almost but not quite shattered
> while the fibula was merely a spiral fracture
> caused by my continuing to run (getting
> the hell out of there) after my leg was already
> broken.
>
> Brunt of the damage was my right leg.
> Some sunburn level mild chemical burns
> and lots and lots of tiny chicken pecks from
> shrapnel but I was very very very lucky.
>From the sound of it, your very presence is testimony to your luck.
> Because my hometown (Baltimore, MD) has
> a number of world class hospitals (like Johns
> Hopkins) I've consistently gotten top notch
> medical care and for followups have frequently
> been the only person in the waiting room who
> was even the slightest bit local.
More good fortune!
[...]
> > Is that Mandarin, Cantonese, other?
>
> The HSK is actually for written Chinese.
> I took the exam with the modern simplified
> characters. I can't understand a single word of
> spoken Cantonese but the grammar and
> vocabulary differences between the two
> don't really show up in writing at my level.
My former neighbor was a double major, graduated from Dickinson
College in Carlisle, PA and was fluent in Mandarin. Last I heard he
was back in China. He's about 5'10, blond, full beard - told me
stories of Chinese workers talking about him and then being suprised
when he spoke to them in their own language.
[...]
> > > The afternoon of the second day after the tattoo
> > > I started getting some ink colors on my sheets.
>
> > I slept with my leg outside or on top the sheets.
>
> > > Today is the evening of the third day. I've now
> > > got a bandage
[...]
> > > and I'm still seeing some colors when I
> > > change the bandage.
>
> > Stop with the bandages. Again, I was letting my tattoo uncovered and
> > with only the slightest dab of A&D. Like you, I was seeing some colors
> > but they weren't on a bandage. Instead the color was in the form of
> > ink sweats or however you'd like to describe it.
I saw your other inquiry re the sweats. It's a wound. It's going to
weep and then eventually stop. I used the A&D the first day or two and
then just let it go. Lots of air, dabbing it dry after showers, no
wash cloth or loofah action over the tattoo but instead just smoothing
soap gently over the design at most.
[...]
> > Otoh, I'm not looking out a window at
> > the tropics in China either.
>
> And there was this really nice mud puddle
> that I had to specifically not take my freshly
> rebuilt mountain bike through <sigh> last night
> when I decided to explore the area along the
> old railroad tracks.
> I've even go so far as to reschedule the
> mountain bike's virgin group ride for later in June.
I'm sure it'll be worth the wait. I prefer flat or slightly banked
highways and a motorized bike but, hey, enjoy your mud!
[...]
> > And super fast super new superdrugs? :oD
>
> Can be purchased at the hospital.
It wasn't a serious question. Just laughed at reading how you phased
it. SUPER fast SUPER new SUPERdrugs.
Super! :o)
[...]
> <snip> Cinammon oil is fabulous stuff for
> massage and is also a pretty good antibacterial.
> Strangely enough the one variety I know
> also works pretty good at keeping mosquitoes away.
[...]
Interesting.
I read a fiction book by James Rollins titled 'Amazonia' where they're
scouting through the jungle in search of a hidden tribe. A
pharmaceutical company is financing the trek in search of similar
herbal meds or mysteries.
--
Curt
Curt
[...]
re http://www.geocities.com/curt_james/calvin.html
> At 14:26 local time I accidentally clicked on this link (having
> predictably failed to get through the time I clicked on it on purpose)
> and -actually- got through. Cool tattoo. I really like the way the
> back of your ankle is the rear of the image on the front of your
> ankle.
(blink)
Hnh! Never looked at it that way. Cool.
> Mine is probably about 3/4s the size of your's and ran me 1500rmb
> total (about $195) for four hours including his final tweaks to the
> preliminary drawing, drawing it on my leg, outline, colors, two
> bathroom breaks, and a trip to the ATM.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/53374875@N00/should work. I've included
> the first preliminary drawing (which is barely different from the
> picture in the binder), the collection of botanical rose drawings and
> the photo of a rose and rose thorns that I sent back, and the second
> preliminary drawing.
>
> -M
Thanks for the images! Excellent.
--
Curt
Curt
[...]
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/53374875@N00/
[...]
Again, excellent photos.
You keep your mountain bike and I'll follow Mike's example:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/13/88801575_712311bd32.jpg?v=0
http://www.geocities.com/curt_james/sportster.html
--
Curt
Curt
N Jill Marsh
>Oh, ok!
>Well, not really scamptattoo, but a couple of recent photos can be
>found at the bottom of <
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=37444240&albumId=0
I'm just getting a big "I hate you and you can't look at the
pictures".
nj"now I know how you feel...."m
Kavin...@gmail.com
> On Jun 13, 8:26 pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
KT> > Anyone else creeped out about the cloth covering on the table?
>
M> He had a pad of that white stuff (three or four layers thick)
between
M> the leg he was working on and the table and he kept replacing it
with
M> fresh clean ones and throwing the old ones (which were icky with
ink
M> and some blood) in the garbage.
Yeah. I'd feel better if you had said he threw the cloth away. I'm
not a big fan of anything that will touch me having touched someone
else unless it has been autoclaved in situations like this. I know
the process isn't perfect as far as the equipment goes, but Jesus
Christ, no soft surfaces.
And please notice our resident village idiot keeps saying A & D
ointment. Ask him about his black blob tattoo. Ask him how he healed
that one.
Kavin
sca...@gmail.com
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:41:30 -0700, sca...@gmail.com wrote:
> >Oh, ok!
> >Well, not really scamptattoo, but a couple of recent photos can be
> >found at the bottom of <
>
>
> I'm just getting a big "I hate you and you can't look at the
> pictures".
>
> nj"now I know how you feel...."m
>
> --
> "I do not rhyme to that dull elf
> Who cannot imagine to himself..."
I have no idea why that's happening... :( But I like you, Jill - I
really LIKE you!
Susan
N Jill Marsh
>On Jun 13, 7:43 pm, N Jill Marsh <njma...@storm.ca> wrote:
>
>> I'm just getting a big "I hate you and you can't look at the
>> pictures".
>
>I have no idea why that's happening... :( But I like you, Jill - I
>really LIKE you!
Yeah, sure, URLs speak louder than words. Than typed words, at any
rate.
nj"off to sulk, now"m
Marian
wrote:
> > His seemed as good a one
> > as any other to write a response to as any other.
>
> Notice he said A&D ointment. OINTMENT. Look up ointment.
I just put A&D ointment into google and notice more than a few places
and people recommending it for tattoo healing.
> Scamp said lotion.
I'm not much of a beauty products kind of girl and I wasn't going to
mess around with Chinese skin lotion on my tattoo since the beautiful
goal of whiter skin is not so unoccasionally obtained by having bleach
as one of the ingredients.
I was following the logic that if vaseline bandages had been used on
my skin grafts to keep them from scabbing and itching... they would
also keep the tattoo from scabbing and itching.
-M
Marian
> Marian wrote:
>
> > <snip> Cinammon oil is fabulous stuff for
> > massage and is also a pretty good antibacterial.
> > Strangely enough the one variety I know
> > also works pretty good at keeping mosquitoes away.
>
> [...]
>
> Interesting.
>
> I read a fiction book by James Rollins titled 'Amazonia' where they're
> scouting through the jungle in search of a hidden tribe. A
> pharmaceutical company is financing the trek in search of similar
> herbal meds or mysteries.
Cinammon oil is hardly a mystery. Not quite as cheap in the US as it
is here but I've seen it around. It got a kind of menthol buzz to it
only with a cinammon smell. Clove oil (which contains many of the
same chemical compounds) used to be used as a cheap contact
anaesthetic, especially when you had dental pain but still had two or
three days before the dentist appointment.
-M
Kavin...@gmail.com
> I just put A&D ointment into google and notice more than a few places
> and people recommending it for tattoo healing.
You're not getting it. You came HERE. You asked. We answered. Four
are telling you lotion, one is saying A&D.
You can keep trying to prove yourself right for listening to the
idiot, or you can listen to people who care (not a person who argues
just to argue -- which is a Curt post).
Your call. Scamp has healed more tattoos than you have even thought
of. Curt has one he refers to as a blob. That sounds like a 2/3
success rate (and some would say his tattoos aren't a success at
all). Wonder what Scamp's success rate is?
Kavin
Nina Baltes
> I just put A&D ointment into google and notice more than a few places
> and people recommending it for tattoo healing.
You'll find just as many recommending antibiotic ointment. You can
probably also find as many sites telling you that only cretins get
tattoos and that they'll burn in hell for it.
Many times, your body will heal *in spite of* what you're doing.
This is especially true for very small tattoos because the skin damage
is not really extensive. The bigger the freshly tattooed area, the
more intelligent care it requires.
> t much of a beauty products kind of girl and I wasn't going to
> mess around with Chinese skin lotion on my tattoo since the beautiful
> goal of whiter skin is not so unoccasionally obtained by having bleach
> as one of the ingredients.
Who said anything about such nonsense?
> I was following the logic that if vaseline bandages had been used on
> my skin grafts to keep them from scabbing and itching... they would
> also keep the tattoo from scabbing and itching.
I doubt that keeping in artificially inserted pigment is a concern
with skin grafts.
Wash it and put lotion on it whenever it feels dry and you'll be okay.
Put your leg up whenever you can. Lower leg tattoos often take
somewhat longer to heal because fluid accumulates during the day and
circulation isn't as good as in other parts of the body.
Oh, also: once any flakes and/or scabs have fallen off: SUNBLOCK! For
the rest of your life. Until then: no sun at all.
Nina
The Queen of Cans and Jars
> I just put A&D ointment into google and notice more than a few places
> and people recommending it for tattoo healing.
It's still shitty advice. You've been given the proper healing method.
Use it.
Or ruin your tattoo. It's your choice.
Kavin...@gmail.com
> Oh, also: once any flakes and/or scabs have fallen off: SUNBLOCK! For
> the rest of your life. Until then: no sun at all.
I'll bet vampires have the prettiest tattoos . . .
Kavin
i'll teach you to turn away.
>> are throwing away the money you put into this tattoo by gooping it up
>> the way you're doing. At the very least you will need a touch up.
M> leaking color? Not a whole lot at first and even less now but
M> definitely color coming out in my sweat (noticeable on the top of my
M> sock from Sunday, didn't see it before) ...
READ, YOU STUPID COW.
http://compunction.org/healing.txt
lish "your house is standing
cr...@got.net on a foot & a half of silt." -uc
Marian
> On 14 Jun., 05:48, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I just put A&D ointment into google and notice more than a few places
> > and people recommending it for tattoo healing.
>
> You'll find just as many recommending antibiotic ointment. You can
> probably also find as many sites telling you that only cretins get
> tattoos and that they'll burn in hell for it.
Good point.
> Many times, your body will heal *in spite of* what you're doing.
> This is especially true for very small tattoos because the skin damage
> is not really extensive. The bigger the freshly tattooed area, the
> more intelligent care it requires.
>
> > t much of a beauty products kind of girl and I wasn't going to
> > mess around with Chinese skin lotion on my tattoo since the beautiful
> > goal of whiter skin is not so unoccasionally obtained by having bleach
> > as one of the ingredients.
>
> Who said anything about such nonsense?
"You're not getting it. You came HERE. You asked. We answered.
Four
are telling you lotion, one is saying A&D. "
> > I was following the logic that if vaseline bandages had been used on
> > my skin grafts to keep them from scabbing and itching... they would
> > also keep the tattoo from scabbing and itching.
>
> I doubt that keeping in artificially inserted pigment is a concern
> with skin grafts.
> Wash it and put lotion on it whenever it feels dry and you'll be okay.
> Put your leg up whenever you can. Lower leg tattoos often take
> somewhat longer to heal because fluid accumulates during the day and
> circulation isn't as good as in other parts of the body.
Now -this- is something I do not want to hear. I've already got lousy
circulation in my bum leg with a frequent edema problem.
Marian
> Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> are throwing away the money you put into this tattoo by gooping it up
> >> the way you're doing. At the very least you will need a touch up.
>
> M> Please explain to me the why behind this. I'm curious. Why is it
> M> leaking color? Not a whole lot at first and even less now but
> M> definitely color coming out in my sweat (noticeable on the top of my
> M> sock from Sunday, didn't see it before) ...
>
> READ, YOU STUPID COW.
>
> http://compunction.org/healing.txt
I read everything on the page. It said:
Problem loading page X
The connection was reset
The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
* The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try
again in a few
moments.
* If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's
network
connection.
* If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or
proxy, make sure
that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.
and please don't call me a stupid cow, it isn't very nice.
-M
sca...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> > > His seemed as good a one
> > > as any other to write a response to as any other.
>
> > Notice he said A&D ointment. OINTMENT. Look up ointment.
>
> I just put A&D ointment into google and notice more than a few places
> and people recommending it for tattoo healing.
>
And you believe everything google provides - it's in google it must be
true? People post bullshit all the time, and google very
accomodatingly slurps it up and saves it for you.
> > Scamp said lotion.
>
> I'm not much of a beauty products kind of girl and I wasn't going to
> mess around with Chinese skin lotion on my tattoo since the beautiful
> goal of whiter skin is not so unoccasionally obtained by having bleach
> as one of the ingredients.
>
I'm not talking anything fancy here - just something relatively
benign. It can be the cheapest lotion in the world, as long as it
isn't petroleum based and doesn't sting, it's probably fine.
> I was following the logic that if vaseline bandages had been used on
> my skin grafts to keep them from scabbing and itching... they would
> also keep the tattoo from scabbing and itching.
>
Bad logic.
I just finished healing a portion of a tattoo. My tattoo artist puts a
bit of A&D on and covers it with a paper towel before I leave there;
when I got home I removed it. I washed it gently, then did nothing.
The next day I washed it in the morning, put just enough lotion to
make it feel soft (I happen to like Gold Bond Ultimate healing lotion
because, unlike Lubriderm, I can put it on the next day and it doesn't
sting). I didn't do a damn thing to it again until that night, when I
gave it a light washing and reapplied the moisturizer.
Lather, rinse, repeat while it went through the itchy, flakey stage. I
exercised self-control and didn't scratch it.
The ONLY time I saw any color bleed was the night of getting the
tattoo, when I first took the paper towel off.
You did multiple days of gooping A&D and then covering the A&D with a
bandage. By your own statement you had multiple days of color bleed as
a result.
Whose tattoo do you think will look better?
A tattoo is an abrasion, with pigment. When you get a scrape do you
drown it in A&D? I hope not - that's not particularly conducive to
healing.
Unless you're immuno-compromised, your body could heal that tattoo
with no help from you whatsoever. The only reason to do anything is
because you're trying to keep the color from leeching out. Slurpy
goopy stuff like A&D or petroleum jelly or bacitracin encourages the
leeching; a light application of a lotion used only to keep the tattoo
from getting too dry does not.
If you have no access whatsoever to some kind of benign lotion, then I
highly recommend either having some brought to you or wait until
you're somewhere where it's easily accessible before you get another
tattoo (or get the inevitable touchups required on the current one).
Susan
The Queen of Cans and Jars
> It said:
+ how to heal a tattoo
+ by lish, cr...@got.net
follow this exactly.
+ the short version:
don't keep any sort of covering past hour five or so. (i do
better if i leave on the shop's thick coat of vaseline & paper towels
for 4-6 hours. i discovered this completely by accident & i can only
figure it's because of the bleeding involved, as my body is not
generally a friend to petroleum.) you should NOT have left the shop with
saran wrap on your body. saran wrap is not meant to touch your FOOD, let
alone your open wounds.
days one & two: every few hours (starting at 4-6 hours
post-tattoo, when you remove the bandage), wash gently with warm water &
your favorite soap. it does not need to be "antibacterial" soap; all
soap is, by its very nature, antibacterial. i've found gentle facial
soaps like "purpose" to be very good at cutting the vaseline & lymph.
wash until the skin is no longer slimy-feeling, & BLOT yourself dry with
a paper towel. (viva are the softest.) this keeps lymph down, & keeps
the scabs light. dry, your arm should not be shiny - if the skin is not
matte, you did not wash it thoroughly enough. the tattooed skin will
tingle after this treatment; this is normal, so don't fret.
days three through healing: moisturize lightly with any
unscented, non-petroleum lotion. this keeps the piece flexible so you
don't crack what thin scabs there are.
do not soak. do not pick. do not peel. you do not need A&D,
vaseline, neosporin, bacitracin, tattoo goo, bactine, betadyne, or
anything else that will likely be recommended to you. a tattoo is a
precision abrasion & your body can heal it fine without the goop.
+ details for the detail-oriented:
you should leave the fresh tattoo alone, only washing it as
described above, until it feels tight. at that point moisturizing is the
thing to do. many people start moisturizing right away, & i think that
causes some problems. even gentle curel wasn't meant to be put on open
wounds.
the reason you're washing it is to keep the lymph down. if you
keep the lymph down, you keep the scabbing light. & by keeping the
scabbing light, you have more freedom of movement, you're less likely to
crack the scabs, & you don't wake up stuck to the bedsheets. (well, you
don't wake up stuck by your tattoo, anyhow. see a psychologist, you
sicko.)
once the scabs form, you don't want to get it wet. washing off a
hard or semi-hard scab is not the same as washing off gooey lymph. this
is the point where you start using lotion to keep the tattoo supple.
LOTION, meaning nothing with a white petroleum base & nothing
antibacterial. don't drown it, just use the lotion whenever it feels
tight.
that's it. you'll flake & you'll heal & you'll thank me.
judge the coloration and solidness of the ink after the skin
returns to a normal texture. ideally, the tattooed skin should be
indistinguishable from non-tattooed skin. seek touchups as necessary
after this point, but don't go crying about "my black tribal dolphin
looks gray" & "my taz isn't solid in some spots" until the damned thing
actually heals.
+ solving problems:
tattoos done in a professional, sterile environment are not
likely to become infected or bleed terrifically, & so these issues will
not be covered here. it IS likely, however, that you will experience
some fantastic itchiness during the healing process. slapping at the
skin can be helpful, or scratching is allowed PROVIDED you scratch ONLY
the NON-TATTOOED skin surrounding the new work. do NOT pick scabs. do
NOT scratch the unhealed skin. choosing a non-petroleum lotion with a
strong (or even mild) fragrance can burn in a very itch-relieving way &
will not harm your tattoo, but this method is not recommended for
pussies (or those with allergies).
so, it's been a full month. you've followed this text to the
letter & have successfully gone through the initial flake & the
onionskin shed. & yet all is not well, you say? here are the most common
post-healing problems & what you can do about them.
- scar tissue
if the artist went too deep or worked the skin too much, if
you're prone to keloids or other outrageous scarring, if you had an
allergic reaction to something, if you picked the scabs, or a skillion
other things, you may experience raised scar tissue over part or all of
your new tattoo. the best recourse against scarring is tissue massage.
some people will say ONLY to use one product or another, but the
important part is the massage itself. so use olive oil, vitamin e oil,
hand lotion, cocoa butter, or nearly anything else that helps you to
thoroughly massage the scarred tissue. fully cleanse yourself of the
extra when you're finished. you should spend five or ten minutes several
times a day doing this, depending on the degree of scarring. working the
tissue like this strengthens bloodflow & encourages the tissue to act as
it should.
- blotchiness, blurriness, vacations
it's important to judge this only AFTER you've fully healed, at
the point that your skin has returned to normal (or thereabouts). if
your tattoo looks blotchy or has "vacations" (areas that didn't take
ink), it will need a touchup. most artists offer touchups for free or a
nominal fee depending on the size of the problem. if you picked the
scabs, don't expect a free ride - it's pretty obvious when someone's
been picking.
if your tattoo looks blurry around the edges, this is a
different problem. blurriness is nearly always caused by an artist
putting his needles in too deeply - the ink spreads to immediate
surrounding tissue & gives a hazy & undesirable effect. this can be
relieved with a touchup, but a different artist is recommended. the
blurriness will need to be tattooed over, which will very slightly
expand the existing work. sometimes the blur can be covered in white,
which gives a different & sometimes preferable look to a piece.
- black looking gray
if your black ink looks gray or your colors otherwise are not
what you want, you MAY be able to have them touched up. but you need to
first realize that you're seeing the ink THROUGH layers of skin, much
like looking through a window. if the window is tinted (ie your skin
tone), what you see through it will appear differently. a very dark gray
may be the best that will show up on your skin, so accept it if a
respected artist tells you your piece is perfect.
+ the most important part:
do your research FIRST, BEFORE you get to the tattooist's chair.
shitty tattoos can be removed, but it's outrageously expensive & they
will never fully be gone. spending a day or three or ninety doing
research about which artist is right for you & how your tattoo should be
applied will save you the rest of your life in regret.
There you go, stupid cow. Now you can stop making excuses for ignoring
good advice!
Kavin...@gmail.com
> On Jun 14, 9:54 pm, Nina Baltes <chaotro...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
MAR> > > t much of a beauty products kind of girl and I wasn't going
to
MAR> > > mess around with Chinese skin lotion on my tattoo since the
beautiful
MAR> > > goal of whiter skin is not so unoccasionally obtained by
having bleach
MAR> > > as one of the ingredients.
>
NINA> > Who said anything about such nonsense?
>
KT> "You're not getting it. You came HERE. You asked. We answered.
KT> Four
KT> are telling you lotion, one is saying A&D. "
Oh, no no no fucking no, sweetheart. I said lotion. Not "Bleaching
lotion." You've lived in the states. You know what lotion means.
Why didn't you mistake it for, I don't know, suntan lotion? Analgesic
lotion? I'm sure there must be a simple lotion you can get wherever
you live. Hell, you can get all manner of antibiotics, I think a
simple lotion is available.
I've read you posts on other newsgroups. Your posts here are typical.
Please stop dribbling out bits and pieces so you can act offended.
We really are trying to be helpful. That, however, can change. And
not in your favor.
Kavin
>
> > > I was following the logic that if vaseline bandages had been used on
> > > my skin grafts to keep them from scabbing and itching... they would
> > > also keep the tattoo from scabbing and itching.
>
> > I doubt that keeping in artificially inserted pigment is a concern
> > with skin grafts.
> > Wash it and put lotion on it whenever it feels dry and you'll be okay.
> > Put your leg up whenever you can. Lower leg tattoos often take
> > somewhat longer to heal because fluid accumulates during the day and
> > circulation isn't as good as in other parts of the body.
>
> Now -this- is something I do not want to hear. I've already got lousy
> circulation in my bum leg with a frequent edema problem.
>
>
>
> > Oh, also: once any flakes and/or scabs have fallen off: SUNBLOCK! For
> > the rest of your life. Until then: no sun at all.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Nina Baltes
> "You're not getting it. You came HERE. You asked. We answered.
> Four
> are telling you lotion, one is saying A&D. "
I don't see anything about some obscure "Chinese skin lotion" there.
Are you saying there are no regular body lotions in China?
> Now -this- is something I do not want to hear. I've already got lousy
> circulation in my bum leg with a frequent edema problem.
All the more reason to lay off the vaseline and bandages. A simple
skin infection resulting from your little incubator there could get
interesting.
Nina
i'll teach you to turn away.
M> On Jun 15, 2:07 am, c...@got.net (i'll teach you to turn away.) wrote:
>> READ, YOU STUPID COW.
>> http://compunction.org/healing.txt
M> Problem loading page X
you're the only one having a problem. what else is new.
M> and please don't call me a stupid cow, it isn't very nice.
i call them as i see them. i posted my link for you once already,
& you didn't even respond to thank me.
lish "it's been written with love
cr...@got.net & it's been sealed with a kick." -jc
i'll teach you to turn away.
TQoCaJ> + how to heal a tattoo
TQoCaJ> + by lish, cr...@got.net
TQoCaJ> There you go, stupid cow. Now you can stop making excuses for ignoring
TQoCaJ> good advice!
you have more patience than i do.
you should post new pics to that gorgeous neckpiece i sized &
placed for you. ;D
lish "the opinions that i don't give
cr...@got.net are the opinions i don't got." -mm
Kavin...@gmail.com
>
> and please don't call me a stupid cow, it isn't very nice.
The cows are the ones who should be complaining.
Kavin
Marian
Jars) wrote:
> There you go, stupid cow. Now you can stop making excuses for ignoring
> good advice!
I won't spite myself by ignoring your advice but you are such an
incredibly rude person that I truly wish you hadn't given good advice
so that I could afford to ignore and forget you.
-M
Curt
> <snip>(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:
> > There you go, stupid cow. Now you can stop making excuses for ignoring
> > good advice!
>
> I won't spite myself by ignoring your advice but you are such an
> incredibly rude person that I truly wish you hadn't given good advice
> so that I could afford to ignore and forget you.
She gave good advice? I thought she offered a copy and paste of some
info and then called you a stupid cow. Not so difficult to ignore and
forget that, imo.
Anyway, how's your tattoo now?
--
Curt
The Queen of Cans and Jars
The Queen of Cans and Jars
> you should post new pics to that gorgeous neckpiece i sized &
> placed for you. ;D
yes, i should. i should also post some pics of my healed crow. maybe i
can get my camera-buddy to take some this week. since i'm OUT OF WORK
for the moment, i've got nothing but time.
Kavin...@gmail.com
That is "incredibly" rude?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Really, go away. If that is what you're teaching your pupils, no
wonder your contract was cancelled.
Really, the cows should be offended.
Kavin
Kavin...@gmail.com
> I thought she offered a copy and paste of some
> info and then called you a stupid cow. Not so difficult to ignore and
> forget that, imo.
Good, so now you see the value in your little endeavors?
Oh, but wait! The Queen had permission to post her little cut and
paste. You, you violate copyright laws. Typical.
Kavin
The Queen of Cans and Jars
i'll teach you to turn away.
M> I won't spite myself by ignoring your advice but you are such an
M> incredibly rude person that I truly wish you hadn't given good advice
M> so that I could afford to ignore and forget you.
queen & i are different people who both determined you to be a
stupid cow.
that said, if you had just THANKED ME in the first place, you
never would have been insulted. neglecting to appreciate my helpful advice
in the first place is in itself rude. here, have a mirror.
lish "the sword of truth
cr...@got.net is just another weapon." -nmn
Curt
> On Jun 18, 11:48 am, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Good, so now you see the value in your little endeavors?
Correction. Not so difficult for SOME to ignore. ;o)
HA!
--
Curt
Curt
re Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com>
[...]
> queen & i are different people who both determined you to be a
> stupid cow.
Hmmm. Actually, lisheep would be the term I'd apply. You apparently
determined the OP to be a stupid cow whereas Queen simply fell in
line.
Hth.
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Curt
Marian
The info in the copy and paste was good advice.
> Anyway, how's your tattoo now?
Looking good. Colors are uniformly nice and dark. Shading looks even
better than it did originally now that I have gotten over the shock of
it being on my body and can dispassionately investigate it up close.
Bit tingly itchy along one of the scars (relating to nerve damage).
Strangely enough although the heavily scarred tissue which was used as
the site for the thorns to grow out of took the ink fine the "swollen
bruise" on the lightly scarred tissue around the site didn't. Doesn't
look like a bruise at all any more. I'm currently ambivalent on what
to do about this ... on the one hand it's "prettier" without the
bruise (which is as gone as if it had been a real bruise that healed),
one the other hand it was more artistic and trompe l'oeil with the
bruise.
-M
Marian
wrote:
> On Jun 18, 3:13 am, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 15, 10:34 am, dhrr...@ohatzhapu.bet (The Queen of Cans and
>
> > Jars) wrote:
> > > There you go, stupid cow. Now you can stop making excuses for ignoring
> > > good advice!
>
> > I won't spite myself by ignoring your advice but you are such an
> > incredibly rude person that I truly wish you hadn't given good advice
> > so that I could afford to ignore and forget you.
>
> > -M
>
> That is "incredibly" rude?
Some people persist in believing in that which is called the civil
society. This is a place where people do not randomly call other
people things or
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
laugh at them.
> Really, go away. If that is what you're teaching your pupils, no
> wonder your contract was cancelled.
Since I have mentioned many places online about various jobs I have
had I will assume that you are talking about my recent stint as a
college teacher. The school was supposed to apply for the right to
hire me before I started working for them not after and ... well ...
things happen. My contract was not canceled. Legally it never
existed in the first place because they didn't have the right to sign
it with me until after permission they had not yet applied for had
been granted. When permission was retroactively applied for it wasn't
granted therefore the contract was never signed in the first place and
they were still reasonable enough people to -offer- me money (as
stipulated by the contract that didn't exist) for breaking their word.
They've expressed interest in following the rules this time and
applying for permission ahead of time to hire me next term. Hardly a
canceled contract.
-M
Marian
> Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> M> On Jun 15, 2:07 am, c...@got.net (i'll teach you to turn away.) wrote:>> READ, YOU STUPID COW.
> >> http://compunction.org/healing.txt
>
> M> I read everything on the page. It said:
> M> Problem loading page X
>
> you're the only one having a problem. what else is new.
>
> M> and please don't call me a stupid cow, it isn't very nice.
>
> i call them as i see them. i posted my link for you once already,
> & you didn't even respond to thank me.
Fuck off.
-M
Kavin...@gmail.com
> Fuck off.
after she wrote in a previous post:
"Some people persist in believing in that which is called the civil
society. This is a place where people do not randomly call other
people things or
laugh at them. "
Obviously you aren't one of them.
Stupid whining Cunt.
No, rude cuntnugget.
Kavin
Ken Karnage
>> are throwing away the money you put into this tattoo by gooping it up
>> the way you're doing. At the very least you will need a touch up.
>Please explain to me the why behind this. I'm curious. Why is it
>leaking color? Not a whole lot at first and even less now but
>definitely color coming out in my sweat (noticeable on the top of my
>sock from Sunday, didn't see it before) ...
Itching is a normal part of healing any wound/ abrasion.
By gooping up your tattoo you are not allowing the ink to settle and
be trapped under your skin. you are helping your body push out the
foreign substance. When that happens your tattoo will "leak color"
Some ink stained plasma (tattoo "sweat")is normal with properly cared
for, properly applied tattoos, within the first 24, esp. with lower
body tattoos. Because of your extended use of petroleum based
products, seeing it a few days later is no big surprise.
Do some research on proper sterile enviroments, and be able to
recognize them before allowing anyone else to preform work on you,
ESPECIALLY in lower income parts of the world.
oh, yea....and get tested for hepatitis NOW!!!!!
follow scamps advice, and you'll be fine.
i'll teach you to turn away.
M> Fuck off.
like i said.
lish "& it means half as much
cr...@got.net as it used to to me." -mm
i'll teach you to turn away.
Kgc> "Some people persist in believing in that which is called the civil
Kgc> society. This is a place where people do not randomly call other
Kgc> people things or
Kgc> laugh at them. "
Kgc> Obviously you aren't one of them.
Kgc> Stupid whining Cunt.
Kgc> No, rude cuntnugget.
rude, /hypocritical/ cuntnugget.
ps, that's another quarter!
lish "i like your tattooed
cr...@got.net convictions." -ar
Curt
> On Jun 19, 1:23 am, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Fuck off.
>
> after she wrote in a previous post:
>
> "Some people persist in believing in that which is called the civil
> society. This is a place where people do not randomly call other
> people things or
>
> laugh at them. "
So she's shown discourtesy and you expect her to respond with
courtesy? Possible but atypical, imo.
> Obviously you aren't one of them.
heh :o)
And you are?
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Curt