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David Watts

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May 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/20/96
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One of Australia's leading trashy magazines has an article on "Piercing
Blues" this week. 'Just where you get your body pierced could mean the
difference between sickness and health, according to acupuncturists. This
is because piercing hits the body's pressure points. If you pierce a
particular area of the ear, for example, your vision could go blurry."
Funny that-I always thought masturbation was the cause but I now know
better. Needless to say, the navel and nipples should never be pierced.

The article is accompanied by a drawing of an ear which shows the alleged
pressure points. From what I can see, I should be having problems with my
ear and inner ear and my partner should be having problems with her
elbows! Come to think of it...those elbows of hers are looking a bit
wrinkled lately....

Has there been an epidemic of blurred vision, ear, shoulder, elbow etc etc
problems amongst RABITS?

Morgan Kennedy

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May 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/21/96
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wat...@mpx.com.au (David Watts) wrote:

<SNIP>

>Has there been an epidemic of blurred vision, ear, shoulder, elbow etc etc
>problems amongst RABITS?

Funny that you mention it....

I have actually experienced a lot of excruciating headaches since I
got my eyebrow pierced. It's not because of the actual pierce though
- it's from sleeping in a different position (I didn't think about
this when I got it done). I get headaches if the wind blows the wrong
way, so imagine having not only a sore eyebrow, but having to change
my sleeping position to the other side!

It's getting better now that I'm further along in the healing process
and can roll over to my "normal" side and not wake up screaming....

-Morgan

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Sparrow

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May 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/21/96
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David Watts wrote:
> Has there been an epidemic of blurred vision, ear, shoulder, elbow etc etc
> problems amongst RABITS?

I would reply to this, but I can hardly make out what is on the screen anymore....

Sparrow

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The Laughing Madcap

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May 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/21/96
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Only coming through in waves, wat...@mpx.com.au (David Watts) wrote:

>better. Needless to say, the navel and nipples should never be pierced.

>Has there been an epidemic of blurred vision, ear, shoulder, elbow etc etc
>problems amongst RABITS?

What does it say about nipples?

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Simone Stumpf

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May 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/22/96
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wat...@mpx.com.au (David Watts) writes:


>Has there been an epidemic of blurred vision, ear, shoulder, elbow etc etc
>problems amongst RABITS?

Yes, I am having some serious trouble with blurred shoulder recently :)

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Fredrik Winberg

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May 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/22/96
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In article <wattsy-2005...@dialup-313.mpx.com.au> wat...@mpx.com.au (David Watts) writes:
One of Australia's leading trashy magazines has an article on "Piercing
Blues" this week. 'Just where you get your body pierced could mean the
difference between sickness and health, according to acupuncturists. This
is because piercing hits the body's pressure points. If you pierce a
particular area of the ear, for example, your vision could go blurry."
Funny that-I always thought masturbation was the cause but I now know
better. Needless to say, the navel and nipples should never be pierced.

The article is accompanied by a drawing of an ear which shows the alleged


pressure points. From what I can see, I should be having problems with my
ear and inner ear and my partner should be having problems with her
elbows! Come to think of it...those elbows of hers are looking a bit
wrinkled lately....

Has there been an epidemic of blurred vision, ear, shoulder, elbow etc etc
problems amongst RABITS?

nah, not for me... an acupuncturist once told me that
i should have back problems and a permanent cold...
do i need to say that none of these have appeared :-)
actually, a guess from a non-expert i that the pressure-
points looses their 'forces', so to say...

/fredrik

Qathi

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May 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/22/96
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David Watts wrote:
[snipo]
> Has there been an epidemic of blurred vision, ear, shoulder, elbow etc etc
> problems amongst RABITS?

Well now I know why...hummmmm. It wasn't all the years of sports, or heredity after all.

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Conrad Winchester

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May 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/23/96
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In article <wattsy-2005...@dialup-313.mpx.com.au>, wat...@mpx.com.au (David Watts) writes:

|>
|> Has there been an epidemic of blurred vision, ear, shoulder, elbow etc etc
|> problems amongst RABITS?

I'm sorry, what did you say ? I can't seem to read what you've written
could you use a bigger font next time. Damn my knees ache, ooh and I've
just got a little sniffle, but I can handle it....

Kim Thorp

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May 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/25/96
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I just love a good news story on piercing. I just saw an article in Ann
Landers in the LA Times saying that tongue piercing can cause loss of your
taste buds...Good luck to them... Kim


CATHERINE ROPER

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May 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/26/96
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Sparrow (spa...@io.org) wrote:
: David Watts wrote:
: > Has there been an epidemic of blurred vision, ear, shoulder, elbow etc etc
: > problems amongst RABITS?
:
: I would reply to this, but I can hardly make out what is on the screen anymore....
:
: Sparrow


Sheesh teh decisions you make early in life really do come back to haunt
you. I got my ears pierced when I was seven, ironically that is also the
same year I started wearing glasses...concidence, you decide =P

I now have six holes, so I figure I better get one of those canes soon,
as I will probably be blind pretty soon ;)

Catherine


Nafana

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May 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/27/96
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In article <Pine.SUN.3.92.96052...@xochi.tezcat.com>,
kth...@tezcat.com says...

>
>I just love a good news story on piercing. I just saw an article in Ann
>Landers in the LA Times saying that tongue piercing can cause loss of your
>taste buds...Good luck to them... Kim
>

Yes, and piercing the carotic artery can cause loss of blood supply!

It should not be attempted by amateurs.


Anne Greenblatt

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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David -

Could you send me the text of your original message via email? It is no
longer at my newsserver.

Thanks!

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Marcus Daley

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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Kim Thorp (kth...@tezcat.com) wrote:
: I just love a good news story on piercing. I just saw an article in Ann

: Landers in the LA Times saying that tongue piercing can cause loss of your
: taste buds...Good luck to them... Kim

Apparently getting your tongue pierced is also supposed to cause cancer.
There have been articles in some UK medical mags apparently saying the
extra stimulation can cause cancers, but I havent seen anything
conclusive yet. Besides, if I gave up eating/doing everything thats
supposed to be dangerous, i'd probably starve and die of boredom. So it
goes.

Marcus


Robin Hemenway

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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I mentioned this in an earlier post but I guess no one read it:
the "medical reports" that state that piercing causes blindness, cancer,
AIDS, whatever bullshit they're saying now, are all from uptight
conservative doctors who disapprove of people expressing themselves
freely with their bodies. Remember the 1800's and the early 1900's, when
masturbation supposedly caused blindness, consumption, the breakdown of
one's moral fibers, etc.? Same shit. The Dear Abby letter from the
Dentistry academy president that was mentioned, which I also commented on
in my earlier post, encouraged people to "look past the fad and think
about your future". Clearly these people have no clue about the body
piercing culture if they call it a "fad". Just because it has more
attention now than ever does not make it a fad; if that were the case,
one could say that homosexuality was a "fad". I'm fed up with this
crap. Are thay going to start calling us Communists next???
---ROBIN,
pierced, bi and proud

That Funky Chick

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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On 28 May 1996 16:59:51 GMT, mar...@wolfe.net (Marcus Daley) wrote:

>Apparently getting your tongue pierced is also supposed to cause cancer.
>There have been articles in some UK medical mags apparently saying the
>extra stimulation can cause cancers, but I havent seen anything
>conclusive yet. Besides, if I gave up eating/doing everything thats
>supposed to be dangerous, i'd probably starve and die of boredom. So it
>goes.

Anyone can take a hesitant scientific theory and claim it as strong
proof to support their own agenda. Whenever someone starts spouting
scientific facts and statistics, I get skeptical--I want to see where
they got their facts before I'll accept them at face value.

(Besides, ANYTHING's bad for you if done to excess--the trick is
figuring out at what point it starts being excessive.)

-Bertha
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Marcus Daley

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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That Funky Chick (ber...@mhn.org) wrote:

: On 28 May 1996 16:59:51 GMT, mar...@wolfe.net (Marcus Daley) wrote:

: >Apparently getting your tongue pierced is also supposed to cause cancer.
: >There have been articles in some UK medical mags apparently saying the
: >extra stimulation can cause cancers, but I havent seen anything

<snipped>
: Anyone can take a hesitant scientific theory and claim it as strong


: proof to support their own agenda. Whenever someone starts spouting
: scientific facts and statistics, I get skeptical--I want to see where
: they got their facts before I'll accept them at face value.

Yep, my mother is a paranoid medical worker (midwife), she's going to
send me the articles+ references. Checks I've done sound like its just
another scare story. If anyone is interested, I'll get the details on-line
and mail'em to people or maybe bunge'em on my web page (gives me an excuse
to finish it :)

: (Besides, ANYTHING's bad for you if done to excess--the trick is


: figuring out at what point it starts being excessive.)

hehe, guess I've never been very good at that :)

Marcus

Sparrow

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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That Funky Chick wrote:
> Anyone can take a hesitant scientific theory and claim it as strong
> proof to support their own agenda. Whenever someone starts spouting
> scientific facts and statistics, I get skeptical--I want to see where
> they got their facts before I'll accept them at face value.

Besides, todyas "facts" and "theories" are tomorrows mythology....

Gee, I remeber when it was scientifically PROVEN that the Earth was flat.......

Laura Bryannan

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.96052...@boris.ucdavis.edu>,

Robin Hemenway <ez05...@peseta.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
> I mentioned this in an earlier post but I guess no one read it:
>the "medical reports" that state that piercing causes blindness, cancer,
>AIDS, whatever bullshit they're saying now, are all from uptight
>conservative doctors who disapprove of people expressing themselves
>freely with their bodies. Remember the 1800's and the early 1900's, when
>masturbation supposedly caused blindness, consumption, the breakdown of
>one's moral fibers, etc.? Same shit.

<snip>

Then there were all the MDs of that time also saying that women
who learned to read and do math would end up with shriveled
wombs and would no longer be able to bear children.....

Laura

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Dragoness Eclectic

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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On May 30, 1996 20:46:43 in article <Re: Doctors warn Piercing causes

blindness>, 'la...@isp.nwu.edu (Laura Bryannan)' wrote:

>Robin Hemenway <ez05...@peseta.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>> I mentioned this in an earlier post but I guess no one read it:
>>the "medical reports" that state that piercing causes blindness, cancer,

>>AIDS, whatever bullshit they're saying now, are all from uptight
>>conservative doctors who disapprove of people expressing themselves
>>freely with their bodies. Remember the 1800's and the early 1900's, when

>>masturbation supposedly caused blindness, consumption, the breakdown of
>>one's moral fibers, etc.? Same shit.

>Then there were all the MDs of that time also saying that women
>who learned to read and do math would end up with shriveled
>wombs and would no longer be able to bear children.....

"When an aged and respected scientist tells you something is
impossible, he's probably wrong. When an aged and respected
scientist tells you something is possible, he's probably right."
--Arthur C. Clarke [I prolly mangled quote]


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William Corona

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.96052...@boris.ucdavis.edu> Robin Hemenway <ez05...@peseta.ucdavis.edu> writes:
> I mentioned this in an earlier post but I guess no one read it:
>the "medical reports" that state that piercing causes blindness, cancer,
>AIDS, whatever bullshit they're saying now, are all from uptight
>conservative doctors who disapprove of people expressing themselves
>freely with their bodies. Remember the 1800's and the early 1900's, when
>masturbation supposedly caused blindness, consumption, the breakdown of
>one's moral fibers, etc.? Same shit. The Dear Abby letter from the
>Dentistry academy president that was mentioned, which I also commented on
>in my earlier post, encouraged people to "look past the fad and think
>about your future". Clearly these people have no clue about the body
>piercing culture if they call it a "fad". Just because it has more
>attention now than ever does not make it a fad; if that were the case,
>one could say that homosexuality was a "fad". I'm fed up with this
>crap. Are thay going to start calling us Communists next???


"To thine own self be true..."

BTW, I believe the term for us is anti-social sociopaths...HTH.


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Duncan Busser

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Jun 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/2/96
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personally, I have quite a few problems with doctors right now. Thursday
night, there was a piece done on the local news at 11 (KYW 3 for anyone
in Philadelphia) on scarification, or as they put it 'scare-ification.'
They had a doctor watch a video tape of Virginia Manning of Infinite
doing a scarification piece on my arm, and he told the viewers of the
news program that there was no way she could be doing anything to prevent
contact with foreign bodily fluids, and that it was a great way to spread
HIV and Hepatitis. He never consulted the person doing the
scarification, nor did he watch the interview (done the day after the
scarification was filmed) in which Viriginia said (though it seemed to
have been edited out) that she changed gloves 10 times during the whole
procedure and that everything that was used in the entire process was
disposed of in a sharps container after the cutting.

I hate the media, and the uninformed doctors that the media deems more
trust worthy than the people who are performing these body modifications.

-Duncan
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Peter Muldoon

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Jun 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/6/96
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Sparrow wrote:
> That Funky Chick wrote:
> > Anyone can take a hesitant scientific theory and claim it as strong
> > proof to support their own agenda. Whenever someone starts spouting
> > scientific facts and statistics, I get skeptical--I want to see where
> > they got their facts before I'll accept them at face value.

>
> Besides, todyas "facts" and "theories" are tomorrows mythology....
>
> Gee, I remeber when it was scientifically PROVEN that the Earth was flat.......
>
> Sparrow
> --
>

Gosh, that must make you ...uhh... at least 5 or 6 hundred by now??

Peter... (who reckons that scientific theories/statistics more or less
obey Newton's law - to each theory/statistic there is an
equal and opposite theory/statistic)

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Anne Greenblatt

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Jun 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/8/96
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In article <4or2ar$c...@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>,
dbu...@thunder.ocis.temple.edu (Duncan Busser) wrote:

>personally, I have quite a few problems with doctors right now.

>They had a doctor watch a video tape of Virginia Manning of Infinite

>doing a scarification piece on my arm, and he told the viewers of the
>news program that there was no way she could be doing anything to prevent
>contact with foreign bodily fluids, and that it was a great way to spread
>HIV and Hepatitis. He never consulted the person doing the
>scarification, nor did he watch the interview (done the day after the
>scarification was filmed) in which Viriginia said (though it seemed to
>have been edited out) that she changed gloves 10 times during the whole
>procedure and that everything that was used in the entire process was
>disposed of in a sharps container after the cutting.


GRIPE.

Give Virginia and Jim my regards. Tell them they should really, really
get after the newsshow and *demand* that they publically apologize. By
editing-out the portion of the interview in which hygiene issue were
discussed and only presenting unfounding criticisms is defamation and
perhaps libel. By presenting the topic in this manner, they have cast a
negative light on Infinite and Virginia, not to mention the artform.

Sparrow

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Jun 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/8/96
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Peter Muldoon wrote:
>
> > Gee, I remember when it was scientifically PROVEN that the Earth was flat.......

> >
> > Sparrow
> > --
> >
>
> Gosh, that must make you ...uhh... at least 5 or 6 hundred by now??
>
> Peter...

What makes you think I'm THAT young?

;-)

Sparrow

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