Official RABcon '04 messgae
mal
saying what I did, and since the majority evidently disagrees with me
about this; and, since I still refuse to back down on this issue and
welcome Curt to RABcon, I think it'd be best for me to resign as
events coordinator for RABcon.
Sorry, fr0glet.
So I resign as events coordinator for RABcon.
I nominate Curt to take my place.
Keith Alexander®
>Since I cannot in honesty say to myself that I was out of line for
>saying what I did,
*** That's pretty sad.
>and since the majority evidently disagrees with me
>about this;
*** Even if they *agreed* with you, right is right.
>and, since I still refuse to back down on this issue and
>welcome Curt to RABcon,
*** No one is asking you to suck him off at the door, Mal.
>I think it'd be best for me to resign as events coordinator for RABcon.
*** Jeez. How do you get through a day at the office?
>So I resign as events coordinator for RABcon.
*** Sorry to see that, but I'm not suprised.
At least you announced it here and not on Friendster.
>I nominate Curt to take my place.
*** Personally, Penna somewhere in '05 sounds good.
One thing's for sure, Curt would go out of his
way for _everyone_.
I nominate Judy's house!
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mal
>>saying what I did,
>*** That's pretty sad.
Luckily, I don't need anyone's approval but my own.
>>and since the majority evidently disagrees with me
>>about this;
>*** Even if they *agreed* with you, right is right.
I was right, but everyone's happier this way, don't you think? I know
I am.
>>and, since I still refuse to back down on this issue and
>>welcome Curt to RABcon,
>*** No one is asking you to suck him off at the door, Mal.
NOW he tells me.
>>I think it'd be best for me to resign as events coordinator for RABcon.
>*** Jeez. How do you get through a day at the office?
Hey, I'm not events coordinator at work.
Keith Alexander®
>I was right, but everyone's happier this way, don't you think? I know
>I am.
*** No. You were wronger than wrong.
RAB is an unmoderated forum and RABcon is
an unmoderated event.
See? Simple, really.
Curt
>Since I cannot in honesty say to myself that I was out of line for
>saying what I did,
Hey, Mal. "Me here!" Curt. The guy who annoys you so much? Remember
me? I posted a bunch of stuff here. At least one message said
something like I believe you were offering your honest opinion and
that your motives were pure. You want people to have a good time in
Boston. You think I'd fuck that up. Good for you for speaking up.
Hindsight and all sez that, maybe, it'd been better had you conferred
with some other RABbits before making a - what you believed to be, and
perhaps you're right since you are/were the coordinator after all -
unilateral decision on whether I'd be "welcome" (a rather ambiguous
term in my opinion), but that doesn't mean anyone has demanded that
you admit (like this is a trial or something) you were out of line.
My two cents? You weren't out of line. Speak your mind. It hurt my
feeeewings. (Truly.) So, you've got that at least. But, yeah, you got
your hat handed to you in a way, didn't you? Didn't see that coming,
did you? HAR! Well, neither did I, but like Nina made abundantly
clear: It is not about me. It's not a vindication of the Annoying One.
With that in mind, why are you so concerned about me? Give it a rest.
Or, perhaps, admit that organizing such a big event is a hassle you'd
rather not have on your plate at this time.
Many here agree with your sentiment. (That I'm an asshead and would do
well to stay at home.) Look through the thread. Again, it's not about
me. So, please, leave me out of it so far as your choices are
concerned.
Let me make it clearer: Don't blame me for your decisions.
>and since the majority evidently disagrees with me about this;
Again, have you read all the threads? I recommend you read them again.
>and, since I still refuse to back down on this issue and welcome Curt to RABcon,
DON'T GO BREAKIN' MY HEART! OOOOOOOH! DON'T GO BREAKIN' MY, DON'T
GO BREAKIN' MY, DON'T GO BREAKIN' MY, DON'T GO BREAKIN' MY HEART!
>I think it'd be best for me to resign as events coordinator for RABcon.
What a supremely poor excuse. You should be monumentally ashamed of
yourself. This defines classlessness. Isn't that something you were so
concerned about recently?
You accuse me - perhaps rightfully so - of being someone who'd quite
possibly inpinge on the joy and happiness, the comfortableness of
RABcon participants by my mere presence and then when one person,
maybe three, says something like "Hey, that's not in the spirit of an
open event, pal." you abdicate or flop over like a dead fish.
Do dead fish flop over? Okay, an ailing fish.
Hate me all you like, but grow some fucking nuts.
>Sorry, fr0glet.
Oh, she deserves much more than a weak "Sorry, fr0glet."
>So I resign as events coordinator for RABcon.
Bully for you. Who needs the hassle, right? Updating RABcon.org, hotel
reservations, food purchases/park rental or permits, t-shirt design,
PayPal accounts, swag acquisition and distribution, RABbit pick-ups
and returns at the airport/bus station/T. Fuck that, right?
You're off the hook. Whew! Dodged that bullet. And you can blame it
ever so neatly on some asshole in RAB thus justifying your dislike for
me and also ameliorating your guilt over excusing yourself this way.
(I used ameliorate incorrectly there, didn't I? Meh.)
>I nominate Curt to take my place.
You dislike me? You believe in your heart of hearts that I'm a danger
to the fun-to-be-had-by-all quotient at this year's RABcon and yet you
nominate me to take your place?
THAT'S class!
(looks at Subject line)
"messgae"? You're all upset, aren't you? You've been very precise in
your wording and your typing, so a simple typo speaks volumes. You're
not feeling too good. I am sincerely sorry for the way you feel right
now, although it's not my fault. At least not 100 percent or entirely.
You have a problem with me? Bitch about me to your friends. Or tell me
I suck a la Eric S., Keith, Ray, Snitty, Lish, the list goes on and on
and is ever-changing. But don't bail because everyone didn't offer a
hearty, "YEAH, BOUNCE HIS ANNOYING ASS, MAL! GO MAL!"
--
Curt (This is me being a cock. Just so you're not confused, Eric.)
http://curtjames.com/
Keith Alexander®
<curt_...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>Hey, Mal. "Me here!"
*** Every now and rarely again, you rub out
a good one. This was a good one, cock.
mal
<curt_...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>Hey, Mal. "Me here!" Curt. The guy who annoys you so much? Remember
>me? I posted a bunch of stuff here. At least one message said
>something like I believe you were offering your honest opinion and
>that your motives were pure. You want people to have a good time in
>Boston. You think I'd fuck that up. Good for you for speaking up.
*bows deeply* Sir, I believe you have bested me. Please do write me a
37-page paper about it.
>"messgae"? You're all upset, aren't you? You've been very precise in
>your wording and your typing, so a simple typo speaks volumes. You're
>not feeling too good. I am sincerely sorry for the way you feel right
>now, although it's not my fault. At least not 100 percent or entirely.
I added that typo just for you, since I know how much you enjoy
misspelling threads. In fact I've added another to this message. Can
you find it?
>You have a problem with me? Bitch about me to your friends. Or tell me
>I suck a la Eric S., Keith, Ray, Snitty, Lish, the list goes on and on
>and is ever-changing. But don't bail because everyone didn't offer a
>hearty, "YEAH, BOUNCE HIS ANNOYING ASS, MAL! GO MAL!"
Wow, the slaphead can read my mind. You're right, I never really
wanted to be events coordinator. Thanks to you now I can relax, enjoy
my summer, and not have to think of you at all. I'll be sure to write
you a thank-you note. THANKS CURT!!!
Enjoy being events coordinator this fall, fuckstick. I know you'll do
a bang-up job. Hell, you were breathing down my neck about RABcon from
before day one.
Curt
I scribbled:<snip>
>*bows deeply* Sir, I believe you have bested me. Please do write me a
>37-page paper about it.
><snip>
>I added that typo
re: messgae
>just for you, since I know how much you enjoy
>misspelling threads. In fact I've added another to this message. Can
>you find it?
Yup. You left out the not in "Sir, I believe you have bested me."
>Wow, the slaphead can read my mind. You're right, I never really
>wanted to be events coordinator. Thanks to you now I can relax, enjoy
>my summer, and not have to think of you at all. I'll be sure to write
>you a thank-you note. THANKS CURT!!!
Hth.
>Enjoy being events coordinator this fall, fuckstick. I know you'll do
>a bang-up job.
Abdicator, abdicator, yer a big, ol' stinky hater!
fr0glet wrote (elsewhere in this ng):
| As if the event can only be planned from ground zero?
Still, If I'm doing it, I'm doing it in my backyard. :p
So, are there any other Boston locals who're willing to take over in
Mal's stead? Scratch that. I think you should remain as coordinator.
>Hell, you were breathing down my neck about RABcon from
>before day one.
See? This is your problem. You are too sensitive.
Here's the situation as I see it:
I was Über excited about RABcon 2004. I created a forum called RABcon.
But, immediately, I thought, "Der. Mal or fr0glet should be forum
moderator." I confessed my error to Mal. He suggested a fix. I
followed his instructions. My RABcon forum was deleted as well as the
event notice that I'd created and Mal created his.
End of story.
How do you see that chain of events as my breathing down your neck,
Mal? Of course, there was also my faux pas of having the temerity to
offer advice on saving an image to your hard drive (elsewhere). You
didn't like that either, did you? Get a grip. I meant no offense and
offered a self-effacing apology for my goof. I'm sooooo sorry I didn't
realize you're a computer guy for a living.
Thirty-four, thirty-five, thirty-six, and SEVEN! There.
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
Eric S.
news:g3u230hnojtokosr6...@4ax.com...
>
> Curt (This is me being a cock. Just so you're not confused, Eric.)
It's rather disturbing that you feel the need to have my attention.
-- Eric S.
Curt
> It's rather disturbing that you feel the need to have my attention.
You rattled my cage.
*WOOF!*
--
Curt
http://iam.bmezine.com/?curt
http://www.curtjames.com/
Eric S.
news:h1r230deilso7g93n...@4ax.com...
> Since I cannot in honesty say to myself that I was out of line for
> saying what I did, and since the majority evidently disagrees with me
> about this; and, since I still refuse to back down on this issue and
> welcome Curt to RABcon, I think it'd be best for me to resign as
> events coordinator for RABcon.
For the record, I don't think it as a good idea to voice such opposition
since you were the organizer...I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment.
curt sucks :) Sorry to hear you won't be organizing the event. I was
looking forward to meeting some of the fairly local people (I'm a little
over an hour away in RI). Maybe some other time.
> Sorry, fr0glet.
No fr0glet in Boston? Damn. :(
> So I resign as events coordinator for RABcon.
Boo.
> I nominate Curt to take my place.
I shall offically hate you now. :)
-- Eric S.
mal
<curt_...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>Still, If I'm doing it, I'm doing it in my backyard. :p
>So, are there any other Boston locals who're willing to take over in
>Mal's stead? Scratch that. I think you should remain as coordinator.
You're already doing fine; see the list of Boston stuff you posted
earlier.
I don't have the inclination. You diagnosis may be that I'm too
sensitive, but I know when I have to back off for my own good.
This is not a moment that, frankly, I care enough about to seize.
Curt
>So I resign as events coordinator for RABcon.
>
>I nominate Curt to take my place.
Get this:
http://iam.bmezine.com/events.exe?cmd=zoom&event=521
He abdicates and nominates and then replaces his name with mine
without prior notification, followed by an IM to say something like
"It's yours. Have fun. Buh-bye."
Actually, it was: "It's all yours, buddy. Have fun with it."
Is that how it works, eh?
Okay. No promises, but I'm digging like only a RABbit can dig.
Sarah? Any thought on Mal's actions/nomination?
Everyone? Anyone? Ferris?
Also:
Paging destrss, paging destrss!
--
Curt
"I knew I shoulda taken that left turn at Albuquerque!"
http://iam.bmezine.com/?curt
http://www.curtjames.com/
Curt
>On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:54:02 -0500, Curt
><curt_...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>You're already doing fine; see the list of Boston stuff you p<snip>
That was for the general good, Mal. I wasn't trying to breathe
down your neck.
And: Slaphead (elsewhere)? I'd never heard that one. :p
>I don't have the inclination. You diagnosis may be that I'm too
>sensitive, but I know when I have to back off for my own good.
>
>This is not a moment that, frankly, I care enough about to seize.
Fair enough. Be well. No hard feelings.
We'll see how this shakes out, won't we? :-(
If there is a RABcon 2004, I hope that you attend and have a
hella good time.
Lara
> So I resign as events coordinator for RABcon.
>
> I nominate Curt to take my place.
Since when did an abdicator retain the right to nominate their
successor? That's deathbed stuff.
Lara
fr0glet
> Sorry to hear you won't be organizing
> the event. I was looking forward to meeting some of the fairly local
> people (I'm a little over an hour away in RI). Maybe some other time.
Hey, it's not cancelled. You gotta show.
>> Sorry, fr0glet.
I think the apology is because *I* asked him to handle the event
coordination as a favor to me.
> No fr0glet in Boston? Damn. :(
I'm coming, damnit. Always wanted to visit Boston. There's a stack of
RABbits, IAMers, and rec.pets.herp posters I'd love to meet in that area. I
don't care who's coming or not coming, just that SOMEONE will munch with me.
Recent suggestions to move the RABcon date to coincide with the Boston
Tattoo Convention (http://www.bostontattooconvention.com/) on September
10-12 intrigue me. That would make the trip a birthday present for me, too,
I turn 29 on 9/8/04.
fr0glet
--
"You cannot be an objective scientist if you have an agenda."
~The Madman
Eric S.
news:1033ctj...@corp.supernews.com...
>
> Hey, it's not cancelled. You gotta show.
Well, since you put that way. :)
> I'm coming, damnit. Always wanted to visit Boston. There's a stack of
> RABbits, IAMers, and rec.pets.herp posters I'd love to meet in that area.
I
> don't care who's coming or not coming, just that SOMEONE will munch with
me.
I'll pencial ya in. Hehe.
> Recent suggestions to move the RABcon date to coincide with the Boston
> Tattoo Convention (http://www.bostontattooconvention.com/) on September
> 10-12 intrigue me. That would make the trip a birthday present for me,
too,
> I turn 29 on 9/8/04.
That would be good for me. I didn't get to go last year. :(
-- Eric S.
i'll teach you to turn away.
C> You have a problem with me? Bitch about me to your friends. Or tell me
C> I suck a la Eric S., Keith, Ray, Snitty, Lish, the list goes on and on
oh, i think i've been more creative than to say you suck.
lish "well, it took a lot of work
cr...@got.net to be the ass that i am." -mm
39.3% / 30 RANA 125 / 68
i'll teach you to turn away.
>>> Sorry, fr0glet.
fg> I think the apology is because *I* asked him to handle the event
fg> coordination as a favor to me.
if you have to go out of your way to request this favor from a
non-poster to rab, should rabcon really be going on?
i get the idea of it & all, but if no one wants it enough to
step up & organize it... well, wasn't last year's attended by a total
of three?
(yes, yes, i'd know for sure if i'd've been there. get past it.)
lish "how sad it is for other people
cr...@got.net that they cannot appreciate our genius." -hc
Ray Pearson
> saying what I did, and since the majority evidently disagrees with me
you are a sad sad excuse for a human being.
good bye penis wrinkle.
Judith Cookson
>
> I nominate Judy's house!
sigh.
yeah, ok.
!@#%$!@#%!@#%!
--
Judith Cookson
jcookson @ illuminati online
Angie K
<curt_...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>Also:
>
>Paging destrss, paging destrss!
Wha-huh?
*yawn*
Sorry. I was napping.
-Angie a.k.a. destrss
Curt
I blurted:
>>Paging destrss, paging destrss!
>
>Wha-huh?
>*yawn*
>
>Sorry. I was napping.
>
>-Angie a.k.a. destrss
Any reflections on being a RABcon coordinator?
--
Curt, the curious RABbit (who had FUN! @ 02's event)
Erica
> saying what I did, and since the majority evidently disagrees with me
> about this; and, since I still refuse to back down on this issue and
> welcome Curt to RABcon, I think it'd be best for me to resign as
> events coordinator for RABcon.
Mmmokay...I planned on staying out of this, but I have to ask something...
Was the issue that you didn't want innappropriate behavior, or that you
didn't want Curt? Because if it is the former, maybe he could have been
privately spoken to and notified of what is considered unacceptable? Then
based on his response (i.e. "fuck you I'll do what I want" or "point taken!
I'll be sure to adhere to your guidelines"), THEN a decision could have been
made regarding whether or not he is welcome. Makes me think of Keith's post
from a little while back:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=gfo5vvcillounksdoep41qi31tgqdoe8cd%404ax.com&output=gplain
The reason I mention this is because it seems more like a personal issue
against Curt, rather than Curt's (potential) behavior. I am not saying that
"unwelcoming" someone is not necessarily a proper course of action. Rather,
I'm wondering why one couldn't have attempted to resolve this issue before
asking someone not to attend. It seems that a "ban" would be a LAST resort,
rather than an initial reaction.
Unless some discourse occurred that I am not aware of, of course.
--Erica