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dmo...@coil.com

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Aug 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/10/95
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Question for a friend:

She is allergic to sulfa and has been told that she can only be tattooed with black ink
because all other colors contain sulfa. Is this true? Are there any tattoo inks available without sulfa?


MJ


Jay Bangle

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Aug 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/10/95
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Not as far as I know! I, too, am very allergic to sulfa; and although most
of my jaguar spots are black, the interior of each spot is filled with brown/
tan color that is a mixture of several individual colors. I had no problems.

Last I looked, more than half the women in the US are allergic to sulfa to
one degree or another. There are lots of women tattooed, and I've never heard
of a reaction.

I intend to get more colorful tattoos in the future, I'll let you know when
I do.

Jay
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Bret Foreman

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Aug 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/10/95
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dmo...@coil.com wrote:
: Question for a friend:

: She is allergic to sulfa and has been told that she can only be tattooed with black ink
: because all other colors contain sulfa. Is this true? Are there any tattoo inks available without sulfa?


Sulfa drugs cause me to have out-of-body experiences. Does this mean
that I'm alergic to sulfa or should I start a new church? Seriously,
I'm not tattooed (yet) and I wonder if this is an issue for me in what
colors I choose.

Bret


Marken

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Aug 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/11/95
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I don't want to scare you but a few folks have had some seriouse and
deadly problems from tattoos. This is sort of like the informed consent
issue. Problems like this are real but experienced by only a small
percentage. Here are a couple of examples of scientific reports I found
in the medical literature:
1
UI - 95245705
AU - Ashinoff R
AU - Levine VJ
AU - Soter NA
TI - Allergic reactions to tattoo pigment after laser treatment.
SO - Dermatol Surg 1995 Apr;21(4):291-4

AB - BACKGROUND. Cutaneous allergic reactions to pigments found in
tattoos are not infrequent. Cinnabar (mercuric sulfide) is the
most common cause of allergic reactions in tattoos and is
probably related to a cell-mediated (delayed) hypersensitivity
reaction. OBJECTIVE. The purpose of these case presentations is
to describe a previously unreported complication of tattoo
removal with two Q-switched lasers. RESULTS. Two patients without
prior histories of skin disease experienced localized as well as
widespread allergic reactions after treatment of their tattoos
with two Q-switched lasers. CONCLUSION. The Q-switched ruby and
neodymium:yttrium-aluminum-garnet lasers target intracellular
tattoo pigment, causing rapid thermal expansion that fragments
pigment-containing cells and causes the pigment to become
extracellular. This extracellular pigment is then recognized by
the immune system as foreign.

UI - 93137458
AU - Sowden JM
AU - Cartwright PH
AU - Smith AG
AU - Hiley C
AU - Slater DN
TI - Sarcoidosis presenting with a granulomatous reaction confined to
red tattoos.
SO - Clin Exp Dermatol 1992 Nov;17(6):446-8

AB - A patient with sarcoidosis who presented with a granulomatous
tattoo reaction is described. Although tattoo granulomata usually
represent a local hypersensitivity reaction to tattoo pigments,
they can be a manifestation of systemic sarcoidosis. In this case
the lesions were confined to the red areas of tattoos suggesting
that tattoo sarcoid may be more than just an example of the
Koebner response.

2
UI - 93036248
AU - Sangueza OP
AU - Yadav S
AU - White CR Jr
AU - Braziel RM
TI - Evolution of B-cell lymphoma from pseudolymphoma. A
multidisciplinary approach using histology, immunohistochemistry,
and Southern blot analysis.
SO - Am J Dermatopathol 1992 Oct;14(5):408-13


- Cutaneous B-cell lymphomas are rare neoplasms that can present as
lesions involving solely the skin or develop in association with
a systemic lymphoma. Histologically they are often difficult to
differentiate from pseudolymphomas, and the use of
immunohistochemistry may be necessary to correctly classify them.
We report a study of multiple skin lesions in a patient who
initially presented with multiple pseudolymphomas, apparently
associated with an immune response to the dye of his tattoos.
Over a period of 4 years his skin lesions evolved from
histologically benign and immunologically polyclonal
pseudolymphomas to a histologically malignant and immunologically
monoclonal B-cell large cell lymphoma. Genotypic analysis with a
probe for the heavy-chain immunoglobulin gene demonstrated the
presence of clonal B-cell populations in all of the
pseudolymphoma biopsy samples as well as in the subsequent
lymphoma tissue samples, with a pattern of clonal bands
suggestive of evolution of the B-cell clones. These findings
suggest that the development of B-cell lymphoma in this patient
was related to a persistent abnormal immune response to the
chronic antigenic stimulus of the dye of the tattoo. The presence

Did I gross you out? Science nerds love to do that. Get a tattoo with
open eyes. Choose your artist carefully. If you get skin rashes easily
to stuff you come into contact with, think well.

John Marken
Mar...@accessone.com

B. Z. Lederman

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Aug 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/11/95
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In article <40c0hm$r...@ns.concourse.com>, dmo...@coil.com writes:
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> She is allergic to sulfa and has been told that she can only be tattooed with black ink
> because all other colors contain sulfa. Is this true? Are there any tattoo inks available without sulfa?

"Sulfa" referrs to a family of drugs (anti-biotics, one of the
earliest groups developed).

It's possible for some dyes to contain sulphur compounds, but
you can't be allergic to all sulphur compounds, because sulphur
is absolutely essential to life on this planet. I personally
doubt if the compounds in dyes are exactly the same as in the
drugs, but since we haven't been too successful in finding out
the exact composition of most tattoo dyes, it's hard to say just
what is in them.

You would have to have a much more specific test to find out
if this person was allergic to any specific color, or even
specific dyes. In my (limited, personal) experience, people who
are allergic to Sulfa drugs are also allergic to other things, so
a test would probably be a good idea. But you shouldn't assume
that she is allergic to everything.

--
B. Z. Lederman. My personal opinions.

Marken

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Aug 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/12/95
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Yes there are sulfa drugs but many tattoo dies also contain sulfer
compounds ie. red = a murcuric sulfer dioxide. There are quite a number
of studies showing some pretty awfull reactions to tattoo dies, especially
the murcurial sulfides. I just posted to that effect just before I saw this
reply. A medline search of tattoo (tw) and immunity (tw) or inflammation
(tw) yielded 11 articles to that effect, including some fatalities from
the last few years alone. It is a fairly well documented phenomenon.
Just to inform the non-nerds here, medline is a database run by the
natinal library of medicine at the NIH of all medicall or biology
related publications. You have to have an account
to search all via telnet. There is a html form however for a genetic
subset that you can brows:
http://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/r_medline.html . Try it for fun. I also
maintain a science web page in http://www.accessone.com/~marken
Lookup the medline or entrez browzer there.

Something to think about anyways. If there is interest in the macabre
here I could post a synopsis of all current articles that come up under
tattoo? (too scary I think).

I don't have an opinion, I just am.

Stephanie

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Aug 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/13/95
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I am also allergic to sulfa but had no problems at all with any of my
tattoos...
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imp

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Aug 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/15/95
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In article <40l5qo$s...@netaxs.com>, mi...@unix5.netaxs.com (Stephanie) wrote:

* I am also allergic to sulfa but had no problems at all with any of my
* tattoos...
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* **Mindi!** (thats me!) email --> mi...@netaxs.com<--
*

Me three! : ) I have had no problems with my tattoo's due to my sulfa allergy.

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Fishtatus

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Aug 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/23/95
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over time I have found out that I am allergic to sulfas, I've got tattoos
with all sorts of colors and have had no reactions to any of them....

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On Thursday, 10 August 1995 02:00:00 UTC-5, dmo...@coil.com wrote:
> Question for a friend:
>
> She is allergic to sulfa and has been told that she can only be tattooed with black ink
> because all other colors contain sulfa. Is this true? Are there any tattoo inks available without sulfa?
>
>
> MJ

UM... I just got a new tattoo (5 previous ones) but never had any yellow until now. I am allergic to sulfa and am currently having horrible itching and swelling of only the yellow parts of my tattoo!! I have no idea what i should do about it either :( no problems with blue, purple, white, black, red, or orange... just the yellow!! very obvious too!
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