[Picture] Dragon art thief exposed
Diane Wenner
Today I learned from Alex Wargacki that he is the artist who drew the work
below. In my repost of the "The NQCBGT Official List of Dragon Art" it is
attributed to "Tua Xiong". I had the same attribution in my own
collection. I have seen this work and the one below it in many places
either with no artist's name or with Tua Xiong on it. I had NO idea,
this work was being misrepresented. I make profound apologies to the true
artist! If anyone should find Tua Xiong's email address, Alex would very
much like to have it. The maintainer of NQCBGT would like to have it
also, as would I. On the other hand, with the global warming problem,
maybe it is better if we don't get it.
Diane
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Allen Mullen
Diane Wenner (pixe...@netcom.com) wrote:
: Today I learned from Alex Wargacki that he is the artist
: who drew the work below. [snip]
Tua Xiong did some great work. His romantic pictures have been reposted
here frequently.
This dragon picture always seemed funny to me because it isn't his
style. However, I don't think we should conclude he's an "art thief". He
may not have been the person who put his name on the picture. I suspect
someone years ago innocently attributed it to him by mistake.
Tua Xiong posted a couple years ago and said he no longer had an
Internet account. He was using a friend's account. I doubt he has seen his
name attached to the dragon picture.
Even if Tua Xiong attached his name to someone else's work (which I
doubt), I don't think we should apply a standard used by some today to the
past. Attribution is a fairly recent concept for ascii art. Years ago, no
one expected their work to live on. Collectors frequently attached their
names to others' work and they at least deserve credit for preserving
things that otherwise would be lost. The FAQ mentions that crediting work
is a new concept. There has never been a requirement for this.
It may be counterproductive to get mad at those who don't credit work
the way we prefer. I suspect they will be less likely to help identify the
original author if they are flamed.
Most readers of ascii newsgroups like to see pictures posted and rigid
attribution standards may intimidate potential posters. I think we should
encourage people to post pictures. If they get the attribution correct,
that's great. If not, most readers will still enjoy seeing their post and
serious collectors can sort out the attribution later.
Alex Wargacki
I would like to inform everyone on this newsgroup that im 99% sure this
dragon is not Tua Xiongs work either,its not mine thank goodness but
considering he stole my work its doubtful this is his.Even if Tua Xiong was
the original artist of my dragon it is extremely unusual for someones ascii
art to change so drastically from classic lines & dashes to thick symbols
as the second dragon shows.I would suggest that all of Tua Xiongs 'art
work' be under suspicion until I find his e-mail address & ask him what hes
playing at!.
Diane Wenner
Allen Mullen (mul...@gate.net) wrote:
: Diane Wenner (pixe...@netcom.com) wrote:
:
: : Today I learned from Alex Wargacki that he is the artist
: : who drew the work below. [snip]
: Allen
: http://www.afn.org/~afn39695/ascii.htm
Hi Allen,
I agree with everything you said. I jumped to a conclusion based on
receiving a strong letter from Alex Wargacki. I shouldn't have done
that. I haven't been involved in ascii long enough; I don't know the
history of it; and--worst of all--I did not have "proof".
If my first post ever gets back to Tua Xiong, I hope this one does also.
Tua Xiong, I am deeply sorry for having made a half-assed assumption; it
never occurred to me that someone might have inadvertently attributed it
that dragon to you. It is a terrible thing to call someone a "thief"
publically without positive proof. I wish I could something to make up
for it, but I can't.
It's a good thing I'm typing; it is impossible to speak clearly with both
feet in one's mouth and one's head up . . . .well, you know what I mean.
Diane Wenner