Marmalade Boy - Just Plain Screwed Up!!
Lee Douglas McPherson
Marmalade Boy has just one of the most screwed up relationships I
have ever seen. First of all, the guys are just plain dumb. Yuu is a
character I can't stand because he seems to play a game with his and
everyone else's emotions. The other guy (forgot his name - ginka?) is
just plain stupid. First of all, he chose not to enter a relationship
with the girl, Miki (is that her name?). Then he expects her to stay forever
in a state of limbo between having him as her friend and ignoring any
other guys. Hey, they were young but he is also an idiot for letting it
go this long! I'm only on eps #6 so why does he believe that creating
that fake relationship between him and Yuu's old girlfriend is going to
make her come back to him??!!
Next in this crazy series is that WEIRD relationship between one
of the students and their teacher!!! I don't know about Japan, but
teachers in the US are TRAINED in the ways of dealing with this kind of
situation. JUST SAY NO!!
By the way, those commercial interlude scenes with the main
characters as children and one of them falling down are cluing me in to
what the future of that series will turn out to be. I see the guy
(Ginka?) and Yuu's old girlfriend together. Will that fake relationship
actually turn into a real one? The girl is a very shallow character and
the guy is in love with Miki. How can that change so quickly when his
crush on Miki has been there since jr high?
This show makes me sick.... but I'll keep watching just to find
out what will happen. Maybe that means it's a success and not a dud as I
believe. ;)
Freddy Chan
: Marmalade Boy has just one of the most screwed up relationships I
: have ever seen. First of all, the guys are just plain dumb. Yuu is a
: character I can't stand because he seems to play a game with his and
: everyone else's emotions. The other guy (forgot his name - ginka?) is
: just plain stupid. First of all, he chose not to enter a relationship
: with the girl, Miki (is that her name?). Then he expects her to stay forever
: in a state of limbo between having him as her friend and ignoring any
: other guys. Hey, they were young but he is also an idiot for letting it
: go this long! I'm only on eps #6 so why does he believe that creating
: that fake relationship between him and Yuu's old girlfriend is going to
: make her come back to him??!!
: Next in this crazy series is that WEIRD relationship between one
: of the students and their teacher!!! I don't know about Japan, but
: teachers in the US are TRAINED in the ways of dealing with this kind of
: situation. JUST SAY NO!!
The crazy relationship between all people is the reason that make this
anime and manga series becomes so popular. You know, many
Japanese viewers are kinda tired of the typical relationship of male and
female. That show has some really cool and original idea that attracts
a lot of people.
: This show makes me sick.... but I'll keep watching just to find
: out what will happen. Maybe that means it's a success and not a dud as I
: believe. ;)
I like this show, the relationship is so messed up that makes me keep
watching it, like you said, I want to find out what happen next to
certain characters.
KhChan
Glen Kawano
Lee Douglas McPherson <mcph...@oxy.edu> wrote:
>
> Marmalade Boy has just one of the most screwed up relationships I
>have ever seen. First of all, the guys are just plain dumb. Yuu is a
>character I can't stand because he seems to play a game with his and
>everyone else's emotions. The other guy (forgot his name - ginka?) is
>just plain stupid. First of all, he chose not to enter a relationship
>with the girl, Miki (is that her name?). Then he expects her to stay forever
>in a state of limbo between having him as her friend and ignoring any
>other guys. Hey, they were young but he is also an idiot for letting it
>go this long! I'm only on eps #6 so why does he believe that creating
>that fake relationship between him and Yuu's old girlfriend is going to
>make her come back to him??!!
Yeah, you'll see a lot more explained as you watch more. Ginta's reasons
for not being with Miki are dumb, but things will work out in the end.
> Next in this crazy series is that WEIRD relationship between one
>of the students and their teacher!!! I don't know about Japan, but
>teachers in the US are TRAINED in the ways of dealing with this kind of
>situation. JUST SAY NO!!
Yes, they both know it's wrong, and they plan on waiting until Meiko
graduates before they will go publicly together. However, things will
not go that smoothly...
> By the way, those commercial interlude scenes with the main
>characters as children and one of them falling down are cluing me in to
>what the future of that series will turn out to be. I see the guy
>(Ginka?) and Yuu's old girlfriend together. Will that fake relationship
>actually turn into a real one? The girl is a very shallow character and
Yeah, those eyecatches are great. They'll change to another one that's
even better with a little electronic slot-machine/roulette thing that
the characters watch to see who should end up with whom. It's really
funny.
--
Glen Kawano |"She gets jealous..jumps to conclusions..
gka...@csulb.edu | she cries...gets mad...but when she
http://www.engr.csulb.edu/~gkawano/| laughs, I feel the happiest." --Godai, MI
Robert DeLoura
> Marmalade Boy has just one of the most screwed up relationships I
> have ever seen.
I can't argue with that line. (^_^)
> First of all, the guys are just plain dumb. Yuu is a
> character I can't stand because he seems to play a game with his and
> everyone else's emotions.
Yuu has a lot of trouble trusting people. This is because of something
that he found out when he was in 6th grade. They explain this about
a dozen episodes later in the series. (around ep 20)
He's not really playing games with anyone, though he does tease people a lot.
> The other guy (forgot his name - ginka?) is
> just plain stupid.
Ginta. Suou Ginta.
> First of all, he chose not to enter a relationship
> with the girl, Miki (is that her name?).
He didn't "choose" not to enter it. Miki wrote him a love letter. One of
his classmates found it before he did, and read it aloud in class. Ginta had
told the classmates earlier that he was "just a friend" with Miki, because he
knew that many of the other students liked her. But he was really in love
with Miki, and was very happy to get the love letter.
Unfortunately, he couldn't say this in front of all the other students,
after having said before that he was "just friends" with her. So that's what
he said when they asked him about the letter... but Miki was standing in the
doorway and heard him.
Ginta assumed that his comment had hurt Miki's feelings too badly, so he
never tried to get together with her. He went out and got a weird haircut,
and went on with his life, though he still secretly cared for Miki.
> Then he expects her to stay forever
> in a state of limbo between having him as her friend and ignoring any
> other guys.
Around the time Yuu showed up, Ginta decided to try again. He and Miki were
really good friends again (still). But since he never explained his real
feelings to her, she misunderstood what he did at the end of episode #3, and
got angry with him.
He's very interested in her, but he's too scared to explain the things that
would clear everything up between them. He's afraid that she'll get angry
with him and hate him.
> Hey, they were young but he is also an idiot for letting it
> go this long!
I'll agree with that. (^_^)
> I'm only on eps #6 so why does he believe that creating
> that fake relationship between him and Yuu's old girlfriend is going to
> make her come back to him??!!
It was Arimi's idea (Yuu's old girlfriend). She figures that if she and
Ginta start to "go out", Miki will get jealous. If she gets jealous, she might
decide that this is because she really loves Ginta. If she decides she loves
Ginta, then Yuu becomes available for Arimi. Got that? :-)
Arimi managed to convince Ginta that this was a good idea.
(Episode 7.)
> Next in this crazy series is that WEIRD relationship between one
> of the students and their teacher!!! I don't know about Japan, but
> teachers in the US are TRAINED in the ways of dealing with this kind of
> situation. JUST SAY NO!!
Nacchan did try to resist Meiko at first (explained in some flashback scenes
around eps 15-17), but he eventually gave in. Definitely a poor decision
on his part, because there are bound to be repercussions when people find out
about it. (see eps 15-17 :-) )
> By the way, those commercial interlude scenes with the main
> characters as children and one of them falling down are cluing me in to
> what the future of that series will turn out to be.
The commercial breaks seem to be pretty reliable.
> I see the guy
> (Ginka?) and Yuu's old girlfriend together. Will that fake relationship
> actually turn into a real one?
Stranger things have happened. (especially in *this* show)
> The girl is a very shallow character and
> the guy is in love with Miki. How can that change so quickly when his
> crush on Miki has been there since jr high?
The girl has a one-track mind... "I want Yuu". That's why she seems so
shallow. If she's ever forced to give up on Yuu (see ep 25-26), she'll gain
a little more character.
Same thing for Ginta. If Miki finally makes a decision that she likes
someone else more than him, he'll leave her alone. (see eps 25-26 :-) )
> This show makes me sick.... but I'll keep watching just to find
> out what will happen. Maybe that means it's a success and not a dud as I
> believe. ;)
It's my favorite anime series, current or past.
--
Robert DeLoura
del...@pmel.noaa.gov
Joseph L. Petrow
Robert DeLoura <del...@pmel.noaa.gov> wrote:
>In article <950401.22...@cougar.cc.oxy.edu> mcph...@oxy.edu (Lee Douglas McPherson) writes:
>> Marmalade Boy has just one of the most screwed up relationships I
>> have ever seen.
>
>I can't argue with that line. (^_^)
What are we at now, a love dodecahedron? ^_^
>> First of all, he chose not to enter a relationship
>> with the girl, Miki (is that her name?).
>
>He didn't "choose" not to enter it. Miki wrote him a love letter. One of
>his classmates found it before he did, and read it aloud in class. Ginta had
>told the classmates earlier that he was "just a friend" with Miki, because he
>knew that many of the other students liked her. But he was really in love
>with Miki, and was very happy to get the love letter.
>
>Unfortunately, he couldn't say this in front of all the other students,
>after having said before that he was "just friends" with her. So that's what
>he said when they asked him about the letter... but Miki was standing in the
>doorway and heard him.
I think I uttered one of my loudest "Doh!"'s of all time after seeing
this. Timing is everything in this show, sometimes they're just in time
to see something, sometimes just in time to miss it. But it is _always_
frustrating for the viewer!
>Around the time Yuu showed up, Ginta decided to try again. He and Miki were
>really good friends again (still). But since he never explained his real
>feelings to her, she misunderstood what he did at the end of episode #3, and
>got angry with him.
By the end of episode 4 we have more plot built up than in the entire KOR
series! Fortunately it does start to cool down, but not much!
>> Next in this crazy series is that WEIRD relationship between one
>> of the students and their teacher!!! I don't know about Japan, but
>> teachers in the US are TRAINED in the ways of dealing with this kind of
>> situation. JUST SAY NO!!
>
>Nacchan did try to resist Meiko at first (explained in some flashback scenes
>around eps 15-17), but he eventually gave in. Definitely a poor decision
>on his part, because there are bound to be repercussions when people find out
>about it. (see eps 15-17 :-) )
Just be careful when discussing this subject, I got many flames for
denoucing Nacchan's Lolicon ways a few months back! ^_^;
>> By the way, those commercial interlude scenes with the main
>> characters as children and one of them falling down are cluing me in to
>> what the future of that series will turn out to be.
>
>The commercial breaks seem to be pretty reliable.
I always think it would be really cool if for just _one_ episode they
would change these things, like show Arimi with Yuu. I bet that would
freak a lot of people out!
>> I see the guy
>> (Ginka?) and Yuu's old girlfriend together. Will that fake relationship
>> actually turn into a real one?
>
>Stranger things have happened. (especially in *this* show)
*cough* *ahem* yes, strange things do happen. I used to hate Arimi with
such a passion, but in this show nothing ever stays the same, whether you
want it to or not.
>> The girl is a very shallow character and
>> the guy is in love with Miki. How can that change so quickly when his
>> crush on Miki has been there since jr high?
>
>The girl has a one-track mind... "I want Yuu". That's why she seems so
>shallow. If she's ever forced to give up on Yuu (see ep 25-26), she'll gain
>a little more character.
>
>Same thing for Ginta. If Miki finally makes a decision that she likes
>someone else more than him, he'll leave her alone. (see eps 25-26 :-) )
How can you torture this poor guy so? ^_^
>> This show makes me sick.... but I'll keep watching just to find
>> out what will happen. Maybe that means it's a success and not a dud as I
>> believe. ;)
>
>It's my favorite anime series, current or past.
The jury's still out on whether it's my favorite or not, but it's
definitely the most addicting, and that's saying a lot considering how
anime has affected me in the past! Unlike say, Sailor Moon, I cannot
just casually watch one episode of this show (except during the plot
transition episodes). I have to get really psyched up to watch it, and
what I see usually affects my mood for days. Basically anything good
happening to Miki cheers me up, and anything bad brings me down. I know
I'm going to feel a tremendous void when this series ends.
Joe Petrow Atashi mo Yuu ga suki!"
joe...@engin.umich.edu "Ba-ka."
Robert DeLoura
>>Nacchan did try to resist Meiko at first (explained in some flashback scenes
>>around eps 15-17), but he eventually gave in. Definitely a poor decision
>>on his part, because there are bound to be repercussions when people find out
>>about it. (see eps 15-17 :-) )
> Just be careful when discussing this subject, I got many flames for
> denoucing Nacchan's Lolicon ways a few months back! ^_^;
In fact, I was one of the people who harrassed you a little about it. (^_^)
I don't have anything (morally) against Nacchan's behavior... I just think he
was a little stupid for doing it.
>>The commercial breaks seem to be pretty reliable.
> I always think it would be really cool if for just _one_ episode they
> would change these things, like show Arimi with Yuu. I bet that would
> freak a lot of people out!
Or the often-joked-about Miwa and Yuu.
>> Stranger things have happened. (especially in *this* show)
> *cough* *ahem* yes, strange things do happen. I used to hate Arimi with
> such a passion, but in this show nothing ever stays the same, whether you
> want it to or not.
I only disliked Arimi because she was chasing Yuu (and of course, I wanted to
see Miki and Yuu end up together). Once she calmed down a little, she didn't
annoy me any more.
>> Same thing for Ginta. If Miki finally makes a decision that she likes
>> someone else more than him, he'll leave her alone. (see eps 25-26 :-) )
> How can you torture this poor guy so? ^_^
Years of practice.
--
Robert DeLoura
del...@pmel.noaa.gov