Anime references in Star Trek : The Next Generation

[Jonathan M. Obien]

On Mon, 24 Oct 1994, Taiji Okada wrote:

> I read in Anime UK and heard from various other sources that every Next
> Generation epsiode has a reference to some anime. This is because the
> technical crew filming TNG are real Anime fans.
>
> Does anyone know what these references are??

I think in the episode "Where Silence has a Lease" (not quite sure of the
title), the Enterprise's sister ship is named Yamato. Maybe be in
reference to "Space Cruiser Yamato" or the actual battleship.

BTW, Rick Sternbach, one of the behind-the-scenes people at ST:NG, is an
acknowledged anime fan and he writes regularly for Animerica.

-Jonathan (the Chojin) @_@

[Gerald Leung]

In article <38h1r9$1...@oak69.doc.ic.ac.uk>,

Taiji Okada <t...@doc.ic.ac.uk> wrote:

>I read in Anime UK and heard from various other sources that every Next
>Generation epsiode has a reference to some anime. This is because the
>technical crew filming TNG are real Anime fans.

>Does anyone know what these references are??

>The only two references I know of are that in one episode 'Yuri and Kei'
>are names of two starships. (Yuri and Kei being names of the main chars
>in Dirty Pair.)

They had a ship called the "Yamato." Of course, you can't logically
deduce from that alone that there is a reference to anime, since
"Yamato" was the name of a Japanese WWII battleship, I think it was.

If you pay close attention, you should be able to notice the
references.

GL

[Gautama Buddha]

In article <38hf1q$d...@agate.berkeley.edu>,

Gerald Leung <ger...@metheny.EECS.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:
>In article <38h1r9$1...@oak69.doc.ic.ac.uk>,
>Taiji Okada <t...@doc.ic.ac.uk> wrote:

[anime refs in ST:TNG]

>>The only two references I know of are that in one episode 'Yuri and Kei'
>>are names of two starships. (Yuri and Kei being names of the main chars
>>in Dirty Pair.)

>If you pay close attention, you should be able to notice the
>references.

There was that one episode with the little self-aware robotoids -- Jeffries-
tube cleaners or some such, it's been a while. Thing is, they looked
suspiciously like Nanmo from Dirty Pair, all the way down to the little red
sneakers ^_^

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[Gerald Leung]

In article <sukebeCy...@netcom.com>,
Gautama Buddha <suk...@netcom.com> wrote:

>In article <38hf1q$d...@agate.berkeley.edu>,
>Gerald Leung <ger...@metheny.EECS.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:

>>If you pay close attention, you should be able to notice the
>>references.

>There was that one episode with the little self-aware robotoids -- Jeffries-
>tube cleaners or some such, it's been a while. Thing is, they looked
>suspiciously like Nanmo from Dirty Pair, all the way down to the little red
>sneakers ^_^

I just saw a Dirty Pair TV episode about something to do with a
bad guy named J.S. Criados who built some kind of giant space
station to get revenge on the Lovely Angels.

The space station looked suspiciously like the Dyson's Sphere that
the Enterprise once entered and got stuck in (in an episode about
Scotty). This space station looked alot like a smaller version
of the Dyson's Sphere (same looking door) with a whole bunch
of cones glued on it.

The door opened in the same way and the camera angle looked
similar.

Could the design crew have drawn upon this as an idea, or am I
reading way too much into this?

GL

[Masahiro Arakawa]

Hey kids -

How about a Star Trek reference in anime?

I'm pretty sure I saw the ship identification number NCC-1701 backwards on the
taxi Ayukawa (from KOR, for those of you who are new here) was riding back from
the hospital in the OAV "Stage of Love - Heart on Fire! Birth of a Star".

Masa
ara...@scf.usc.edu

[mso...@news.delphi.com]

Also, in the episode where Riker and jis father duke it out in the
gymnasium, there is a big banner that says "URUSEI YATSURA"...

-Matt-

[Stainless Steel Rat]

>>>>> "Taiji" == Taiji Okada <t...@doc.ic.ac.uk> writes:

Taiji> I read in Anime UK and heard from various other sources that every
Taiji> Next Generation epsiode has a reference to some anime.

Not quite every episode, but quite there are references and in-jokes
scatered all over.

Taiji> This is because the technical crew filming TNG are real Anime fans.

Rick Sternbach and ??? (I forget)

Taiji> Does anyone know what these references are??

I know someone must have compiled a list but I don't know who, and to be
honest, I don't care as I never really liked TNG.

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[Rei Nakazawa]

Steven Biko was, I think, some kind of anti-apartheid protester who
was beaten to death in a South African jail. He became sort of a martyr
symbol, since he never gave up on the cause even when he was nigh
unto his own death. The police denied killing him, but there was
a movie made about him, and someone (Phil Collins???) wrote and
performed a song for that movie; I remember the video. Anyway, that's
who he is, to the best of my knowledge. And I did read that the Biko
was named after him, not B-ko.

As for another anime ref, the aliens who stabbed Picard when he was
a cadet (causing him to get his artificial heart) were called
the Naussicans (sp?). I'm pretty sure this is right, despite the
misspellings of this in episode guides and the like. If this is
right, this is probably the most blatant reference, with two
episodes having mentioned them, and one where they were actually
shown (and if those aliens were undeserving of the name if nothing
else!).

Rei "Leaper" Nakazawa
Me, Trekkie? Nope. Really, I'm not.

[Alexander Lum]

t...@doc.ic.ac.uk (Taiji Okada) writes:

>I read in Anime UK and heard from various other sources that every Next
>Generation epsiode has a reference to some anime. This is because the

>technical crew filming TNG are real Anime fans.
>

>Does anyone know what these references are??

There are a few listed in the TNG List of Lists, which I have copied below:

"Loud As A Whisper" - (DP) The conference table, "made to resemble
indigenous rock", had various markings on them. Most notable to Lovely
Angels/Dirty Pair fans are the marking "Kei" and "Yuri".

"The Measure Of A Man" - When Riker is showing off Data's arm to the JAG
representative, there is a pad on her desk which lists Data's parts, including
"Nausican Valve" and "Totoro Interface". Also, it is noted that part of Data's
construction is made out of something called "Yurium". (DP)

"Contagion" - The Iconian artifact has various markings on it, including
"Kei and Yuri" (DP), "Dirty Pair" (DP), "Gundam" and "Totoro."

"Contagion" - In this episode, another Galaxy Class Starship is mentioned: the
USS Yamato. This was originally the flagship of the Japanese fleet that fought
in World War II at both the Coral Sea and Midway before it was sunk by Torpedo
Bombers from an American carrier. Many years later, a Japanese Animation
series was done in which a battleship is reconfigured to become a starship in
order to recover something called the "Cosmo DNA". This series was called
"Starship Yamato", however, this series was known in the United States as
"Star Blazers".

"The Icarus Factor" - The TNG art department had a field day putting in
in-jokes. The mat has the chinese character of "sei", or "star" (as in "starry
sky". The two scrolls hanging on the walls say, in Japanese syllabic
characters (hiragana), "urusei yatsura", a pun of "ususai yatsura" ("noisy
neighbors" or "annoying neighbors", a Japanese animation. Also, while lunging
at Riker, Riker's father says (in a terrible accent), "youroshiku
onegaishimasu", literally saying "Please do me the favor of being kind to me",
but has the meaning of the English phrase "Pleased to meet you." Various other
markings include "Kei" (DP), "Yuri" (DP), "Akira", and "Tonari No Totoro". In
addition, the scrolls hanging on the walls also say, "Ataru", "Lum", and
"Uresai Yatsura".

"Menage a Troi" - The Ferengi Security code begins with "Kei Yuri".

Lovely Angels/Dirty Pair (DP): A Japanese anime series where the two main
characters, "Kei" and "Yuri", are members of World Welfare Foundation. Their
job is to take care of problems that crop up. However, they usually leave the
place in worse shape than when they arrived, although it's usually not their
fault. The series itself has had TOS in-jokes in it also.

[Kevin Lew -- The Lai-Lai Boy]

In article <38igap$9...@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au>,
aj_...@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Alexander Lum) wrote:

> "Contagion" - In this episode, another Galaxy Class Starship is mentioned: the
> USS Yamato. This was originally the flagship of the Japanese fleet that fought
> in World War II at both the Coral Sea and Midway before it was sunk by Torpedo
> Bombers from an American carrier. Many years later, a Japanese Animation
> series was done in which a battleship is reconfigured to become a starship in
> order to recover something called the "Cosmo DNA". This series was called
> "Starship Yamato", however, this series was known in the United States as
> "Star Blazers".

Well, the rec.arts.anime FAQs specifically say that the Yamato reference is
not an anime in-joke. Apparently, there is still controversy over this bit
of info.

Kevin Lew ("The Lai-Lai Boy")
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opinions, or anything else I say. However, Motorola grudgingly supports my
"Anime in the Workplace" program!)
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[aefig...@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu]

In article <Pine.3.89.9410241713.A7992-0100000@hal>, "Jonathan M. Obien" <jmo...@hal.physics.wayne.edu> writes:
> On Mon, 24 Oct 1994, Taiji Okada wrote:
>

>> The only two references I know of are that in one episode 'Yuri and Kei'
>> are names of two starships. (Yuri and Kei being names of the main chars
>> in Dirty Pair.)
>

> Now that you mentioned Dirty Pair, here's another one. According to an
> article in Sci-Fi Channel Entertainment Magazine, the little machines called
> "unicomps" (the ones which eventually became sentient) were based on another
> machine called "Namo", from Dirty Pair.
>
>

In one episode a Tomobiki simulation was listed on the holodeck and in another
there was a star system named after a canadian animation company (name escapes
me).

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[Barry Hales]

In article <RATINOX.94...@delphi.ccs.neu.edu>, rat...@ccs.neu.edu (Stainless Steel Rat) says:
>Taiji> I read in Anime UK and heard from various other sources that every
>Taiji> Next Generation epsiode has a reference to some anime.
>
>Not quite every episode, but quite there are references and in-jokes
>scatered all over.

Somebody compile a list of these, or it's going to start sounding like
the "Paul is dead" rumors... :-)

Barry

ps if you don't know what the "Paul is dead" rumors mean, it's from a
Beatle's so called "scandal". You know, the Beatles? That group Paul
McCartney was in before "Wings"? Never mind... :-)

[Peter Ronaszeki]

t...@doc.ic.ac.uk (Taiji Okada) writes:

>I read in Anime UK and heard from various other sources that every Next
>Generation epsiode has a reference to some anime. This is because the
>technical crew filming TNG are real Anime fans.
>
>Does anyone know what these references are??

The most obvious one I've seen that no-one has yet mentioned was in "A
Fistful of Datas" when the Enterprise met another starship called the
"B-Ko". In fact, the Captain actually mentioned it in the Captain's Log
voiceover twice in the episode.
"The Enterprise is set to rendeavous (sp?) with the starship B-Ko..." at
which point I start laughing very loudly, to the bewilderment of the
other people in the room. :)

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[Gerald Leung]

In article <38kjvr$c...@styx.uwa.edu.au>,
Peter Ronaszeki <pred...@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> wrote:

>The most obvious one I've seen that no-one has yet mentioned was in "A
>Fistful of Datas" when the Enterprise met another starship called the
>"B-Ko". In fact, the Captain actually mentioned it in the Captain's Log
>voiceover twice in the episode.
>"The Enterprise is set to rendeavous (sp?) with the starship B-Ko..." at
>which point I start laughing very loudly, to the bewilderment of the
>other people in the room. :)

The ship was actually named after some famous African guy or something.
It's been previously mentioned. However, maybe the people who came
up with that knew what they were doing. With all the anime-aware
people working on TNG, it's almost definite that they were aware it
would at least sound like B-ko.

GL

[Genryu]

Biko was a South African activist killed by police. Peter Gabriel wrote
a song about him in his "melting face" album (good song, BTW).

"Peak Performance" The three planets at which the wargame takes place are
called Kei, Yuri, and Totoro. The wargame is named Operation Lovely Angel.

"Up the Long Ladder" When the crew reads the list of launched starships,
there is one named after UY, as well as Star Wars and Buckaroo Banzai
in-jokes.

--Scott

[MICHAEL R ROWE]

>>I think in the episode "Where Silence has a Lease" (not quite sure of the
>>title), the Enterprise's sister ship is named Yamato. Maybe be in
>>reference to "Space Cruiser Yamato" or the actual battleship.
>>

>Hmmm... I heard that starship names come from either historic warships
>or are the names of significant people. Thus the Yamato is named after
>the WWII battleship and the Biko is not named for B-ko from 'Project A-ko'
>but rather is named for some guy in Africa. Sorry, I don't know who he
>is but I do know that he is significant for some reason or other.
>
I would have to agree with this explanation as well. Other ships in the
Federation fleet include the Yorktown (famous WWII carrier), Enterprise
(another WWII carrier) and the Intrepid (yet another WWII carrier if I am not
mistaken).

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[Centurion Tambok]

In <38kjvr$c...@styx.uwa.edu.au> pred...@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Peter Ronaszeki) writes:

>t...@doc.ic.ac.uk (Taiji Okada) writes:

>>I read in Anime UK and heard from various other sources that every Next
>>Generation epsiode has a reference to some anime. This is because the
>>technical crew filming TNG are real Anime fans.
>>
>>Does anyone know what these references are??

>The most obvious one I've seen that no-one has yet mentioned was in "A
>Fistful of Datas" when the Enterprise met another starship called the
>"B-Ko". In fact, the Captain actually mentioned it in the Captain's Log
>voiceover twice in the episode.
>"The Enterprise is set to rendeavous (sp?) with the starship B-Ko..." at
>which point I start laughing very loudly, to the bewilderment of the
>other people in the room. :)

I can understand why no one else was laughing, the USS Biko was named for
Steven Biko, a South African civil rights activist. He was beaten to death
in jail in 1977, and is considered a martyr.

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[Ryan M. Smith]

The U.S.S. Biko was named after Steven Biko, the South African
civil rights activist who was murdered in 1977. I really don't
see what so funny about that.
Ryan Smith
--
"He who was my companion through adventure and hardship is gone
forever." -- The Epic of Gilgamesh

[Chris Wallace]

aefig...@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu wrote:

The company's name is Nivana(h).

Tigger
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[Karl Nikolai Zaryski]

In article <1994Oct25.172748.32246@miavx1>,

<aefig...@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> wrote:
>
>In one episode a Tomobiki simulation was listed on the holodeck and in another
>there was a star system named after a canadian animation company (name escapes
>me).

Most likely this would be "Nelvana", since this would be a great name for a star
system and Nelvana is also the largest animation producer in Canada.

Some of their shows include Ewoks (sucks), Droids (okay), Beetlejuice (okay), The
Raccoons (a kiddy show, but I still like it... I can relate to Cedric Sneer...),
and a full-length movie called Rock and Rule which was commercially unsuccessful
but really kicked butt.

I dunno... I really should check to see what they'd done *lately*.

Maybe I'll start up a new thread: Favourite Canadian Animation?

[Bradley D. Bellows]

In a previous article, aefig...@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu () says:

>In one episode a Tomobiki simulation was listed on the holodeck and in another
>there was a star system named after a canadian animation company (name escapes
>me).

I believe that you're thinking of Nelvana Studios.

Brad (can't think of any witticisms) Bellows
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[Robert A. Rosenberg]

In Article <38hjvs$k...@news.delphi.com>, mso...@news.delphi.com

(MSO...@DELPHI.COM) wrote:
>Also, in the episode where Riker and jis father duke it out in the
>gymnasium, there is a big banner that says "URUSEI YATSURA"...

The Platform they were on also has some character names. I think Kei and
Yuri (the Dirty Pair/Lovely Angels) are two of them (appropriate since DP
had a tendency of running ST sight gags on their view screen while action
was going on in the foreground).

[Richard Critz]

In article <38k4n4$j...@jabba.cybernetics.net>, b...@cybernetics.net (Barry

Hales) writes:
|>In article <RATINOX.94...@delphi.ccs.neu.edu>, rat...@ccs.neu.edu
(Stainless Steel Rat) says:
|>>Not quite every episode, but quite there are references and in-jokes
|>>scatered all over.
|>
|>Somebody compile a list of these, or it's going to start sounding like
|>the "Paul is dead" rumors... :-)
|>

"Somebody" already has:

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~werdna/sttng/in-jokes.html

or, for all the info at that site:

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~werdna/sttng/
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[P-Chan]

Re: Re: Anime references in Star Trek : The Next Generation

> >I read in Anime UK and heard from various other sources that every Next
> >Generation epsiode has a reference to some anime. This is because the
> >technical crew filming TNG are real Anime fans.
>
> >Does anyone know what these references are??
>

> >The only two references I know of are that in one episode 'Yuri and Kei'
> >are names of two starships. (Yuri and Kei being names of the main chars
> >in Dirty Pair.)
>

> They had a ship called the "Yamato." Of course, you can't logically
> deduce from that alone that there is a reference to anime, since
> "Yamato" was the name of a Japanese WWII battleship, I think it was.

> If you pay close attention, you should be able to notice the
> references.

We have the same conversation on Prodigy. I remember hearing of an ep. where
they had a Klingon battle adourned with Anime names (among other things).
I'll get specifics, but Check the Next Generation Tech. Manual, TNG something
Guide, and the STNG Nitpickers. I'm sure that some anime is on the pads (and
PADDs).
P-Chan

[John Greenwald]

Karl Nikolai Zaryski (knza...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
: In article <1994Oct25.172748.32246@miavx1>,

: <aefig...@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> wrote:
: >
: >In one episode a Tomobiki simulation was listed on the holodeck and in another
: >there was a star system named after a canadian animation company (name escapes
: >me).

: Most likely this would be "Nelvana", since this would be a great name for a star
: system and Nelvana is also the largest animation producer in Canada.

: Some of their shows include Ewoks (sucks), Droids (okay), Beetlejuice (okay), The
: Raccoons (a kiddy show, but I still like it... I can relate to Cedric Sneer...),
: and a full-length movie called Rock and Rule which was commercially unsuccessful
: but really kicked butt.

They also did a batch of holiday specials, including "Cosmic Christmas"
and "The Devil and Daniel Mouse" (which eventually inspired "Rock and Rule").

: I dunno... I really should check to see what they'd done *lately*.

Nelvana does the animated portion of "Dog City", a truly mind-bending
little show where an animated dog detective talks back to his Muppet
animator. "Dog City" has the greatest pun density of any show on
Saturday morning. Good stuff.

: Maybe I'll start up a new thread: Favourite Canadian Animation?

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[David Vernal]

In article <38igap$9...@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au>, aj_...@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Alexander Lum) writes:> t...@doc.ic.ac.uk (Taiji Okada) writes:
>
> "The Icarus Factor" - The TNG art department had a field day putting in
> in-jokes. The mat has the chinese character of "sei", or "star" (as in "starry
> sky". The two scrolls hanging on the walls say, in Japanese syllabic
> characters (hiragana), "urusei yatsura", a pun of "ususai yatsura" ("noisy
> neighbors" or "annoying neighbors", a Japanese animation. Also, while lunging
> at Riker, Riker's father says (in a terrible accent), "youroshiku
> onegaishimasu", literally saying "Please do me the favor of being kind to me",
> but has the meaning of the English phrase "Pleased to meet you." Various other
> markings include "Kei" (DP), "Yuri" (DP), "Akira", and "Tonari No Totoro". In
> addition, the scrolls hanging on the walls also say, "Ataru", "Lum", and
> "Uresai Yatsura".
>

One note on the 'yoroshiku onegai shimasu' ... when meeting someone, it does take
the place of our, 'pleased to meet you.'

But the literal meaning fits here, and elsewhere in Japanese conversations.
When practicing kendo, for instance, one always uses this phrase before facing
off with an opponent and beating him with a stick (much like the obscure martial
art that Riker and father were engaged in). This is to follow correct form, and
be polite.

Also, when you ask someone for a favor, or after you have requested something to
be done for you, you should end with a 'Yoroshiku onegai shimasu.' So the line,
IMHO, should not be seen as unintentionally funny...

Sorry to be such a stickler :). All in all, a very thorough list. But it did leave
out the Nausicans (spelling, again), who were named in one episode and actually
appeared later on.
I wonder how Miyazaki-sensei would react to seeing Nausicaans as 7ft tall
monsters!

-dave vernal

[Enrique Conty]

John Greenwald (gre...@mickey.cis.yale.edu) wrote:
: : Maybe I'll start up a new thread: Favourite Canadian Animation?

Maybe we should crosspost this to rec.arts.animation.
Which I just did. See you there!
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The Original
co...@mcs.com

[Jon Van Hoose]

Rei Nakazawa (naka...@phakt.usc.edu) wrote:
: Steven Biko was, I think, some kind of anti-apartheid protester who

: was beaten to death in a South African jail. He became sort of a martyr
: symbol, since he never gave up on the cause even when he was nigh
: unto his own death. The police denied killing him, but there was
: a movie made about him, and someone (Phil Collins???) wrote and
: performed a song for that movie; I remember the video. Anyway, that's
: who he is, to the best of my knowledge. And I did read that the Biko
: was named after him, not B-ko.

Actually, ths song "Biko" was written and performed by Peter Gabriel for
the film "Cry Freedom," which dealt with Biko's murder and its aftermath.

: As for another anime ref, the aliens who stabbed Picard when he was

: a cadet (causing him to get his artificial heart) were called
: the Naussicans (sp?). I'm pretty sure this is right, despite the
: misspellings of this in episode guides and the like. If this is
: right, this is probably the most blatant reference, with two
: episodes having mentioned them, and one where they were actually
: shown (and if those aliens were undeserving of the name if nothing
: else!).

Hmmm...I really know nothing whatsoever about anime stuff, but Nausicaa
was the name of a figure in Greek mythology--she was a wind/sea goddess,
and the daughter of Alcinous and Arete (see The Odyssey, among others).
The spelling "Nausicaa," which is used in the Okuda reference works, is
the correct transliteration of the original Greek spelling (Nausikaa
would also be acceptable). I always just assumed that the planet from
which the Nausicaans come was called Nausicaa after this goddess,
continuing the Star Trek tendency to name planets after Classical deities
(i.e. Vulcan, Romulus, Remus, Minos, etc) as well as traditional naming
(Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, etc). I'm curious--what connection does this
goddess have with anime?

Jon Van Hoose
je...@unm.edu

[Daniel Ross]

> : I dunno... I really should check to see what they'd done *lately*.
>
> Nelvana does the animated portion of "Dog City", a truly mind-bending
> little show where an animated dog detective talks back to his Muppet
> animator. "Dog City" has the greatest pun density of any show on
> Saturday morning. Good stuff.
>
> : Maybe I'll start up a new thread: Favourite Canadian Animation?
>

Other stuff Nelvana has done recently:

Cadillacs + Dinosaurs (not bad, the first six or so eps were great!)
WildC.A.T.S (haven't seen it, the CBS branch in Spokane didn't pick it
up!
Babar
and a couple others, too...

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[stus...@eku.acs.eku.edu]

In article <38hf1q$d...@agate.berkeley.edu>, ger...@metheny.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Gerald Leung) writes:
> In article <38h1r9$1...@oak69.doc.ic.ac.uk>,

> Taiji Okada <t...@doc.ic.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>I read in Anime UK and heard from various other sources that every Next
>>Generation epsiode has a reference to some anime. This is because the
>>technical crew filming TNG are real Anime fans.
>
>>Does anyone know what these references are??
>
>>The only two references I know of are that in one episode 'Yuri and Kei'
>>are names of two starships. (Yuri and Kei being names of the main chars
>>in Dirty Pair.)
>
> They had a ship called the "Yamato." Of course, you can't logically
> deduce from that alone that there is a reference to anime, since
> "Yamato" was the name of a Japanese WWII battleship, I think it was.
>
> If you pay close attention, you should be able to notice the
> references.
>
>

> GL
>
Don't forget the Nausicaans, though why they'd name a vicious race after
her I have no idea....

Stan Bundy

P.S. My favorite funny line spoken TO an anime -
From a viewing of Macross: DYRL (Dub)

Hikaru to Minmay, trying to get her to stop spinning -
"Try to make yourself come in my direction"
My dirty minded friend -
"Uhh, Hikaru, I don't think that's going to produce enough thrust to
change her Delta-V."
(I think the boy's had too many physics classes, but what in the world
is he learning in them???)

[Barry Hales]

In article <38if54$r...@phakt.usc.edu>, naka...@phakt.usc.edu (Rei Nakazawa) says:
>
>Steven Biko was, I think, some kind of anti-apartheid protester...

> there was
>a movie made about him, and someone (Phil Collins???) wrote and
>performed a song for that movie; I remember the video.

I think Peter Gabriel did the "Biko" tune.

Barry

[Karl Nikolai Zaryski]

In article <38pn72$8...@venus.mcs.com>, Enrique Conty <co...@MCS.COM> wrote:
>John Greenwald (gre...@mickey.cis.yale.edu) wrote:
>: : Maybe I'll start up a new thread: Favourite Canadian Animation?
>
>Maybe we should crosspost this to rec.arts.animation.
>Which I just did. See you there!

*SIGH* 'Twas only a little jest. If I were going to start a thread like this
I would put it under r.a.animation, not r.a.anime.

I realize that when the Favourite American Animation thread was started it was
intended to scope out what non-Japanese animation anime fans enjoyed... since
the vast majority of the readers of this group are American, the vast majority
of the non-anime animation which they watched would be American.

So, for the purposes of that thread, Canadian (and other non-U.S., non-Japan)
animation would be grouped as American, even though it wasn't.

Anyway, I will check out r.a.animation, to see if there are any Canadian
animation fans out there. (I normally avoid that group... I mean Animaniacs
are okay, but not worth the time spent reading 100 posts a day about them)

[cnd...@vaxa.isc.rit.edu]

In article <Pine.3.89.9410241713.A7992-0100000@hal>, "Jonathan M. Obien" <jmo...@hal.physics.wayne.edu> writes:
>
>
>On Mon, 24 Oct 1994, Taiji Okada wrote:
>

>> The only two references I know of are that in one episode 'Yuri and Kei'
>> are names of two starships. (Yuri and Kei being names of the main chars
>> in Dirty Pair.)
>

>Now that you mentioned Dirty Pair, here's another one. According to an
>article in Sci-Fi Channel Entertainment Magazine, the little machines called
>"unicomps" (the ones which eventually became sentient) were based on another
>machine called "Namo", from Dirty Pair.
>
>
>

>-Jonathan (the Chojin) @_@
>
>
>
>
What about the other Galaxy class starship, the Yamato?

-Nenechan

[Lou Arruda]

In article <1994Oct29....@ultb.isc.rit.edu> cnd...@vaxa.isc.rit.edu writes:

>What about the other Galaxy class starship, the Yamato?

Technically, it was named for the WWII Battleship Yamato, not the Yamato/Argo
in Starblazers/Space Battleship Yamato. But since the anime Yamato was
actually a retrofitted WWII Yamato, it may have been a double reference.
Also, there was a space ship called the argo I think in one of the episodes,
but the explanation I heard for it was that it was named for the ship from the
old legend of Jason and the Argonauts. Then again, this might be another
double reference.

[T. Braybrook]

: Raccoons (a kiddy show, but I still like it... I can relate to Cedric Sneer...),

: and a full-length movie called Rock and Rule which was commercially unsuccessful

: but really kicked butt. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

A Canadian Company did this? Wow! I thought it was a great movie! Jeez, and
here I thought that all of our Canadian shows were bad....

Kahm-himesama, Canadian and proud (well, unashamed anyway...)

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[Joseph L Petrow]

In article <38if54$r...@phakt.usc.edu>,

Rei Nakazawa <naka...@phakt.usc.edu> wrote:
>Steven Biko was, I think, some kind of anti-apartheid protester who
>was beaten to death in a South African jail. He became sort of a martyr
>symbol, since he never gave up on the cause even when he was nigh

>unto his own death. The police denied killing him, but there was

>a movie made about him, and someone (Phil Collins???) wrote and

>performed a song for that movie; I remember the video. Anyway, that's
>who he is, to the best of my knowledge. And I did read that the Biko
>was named after him, not B-ko.

Peter Gabriel, not Phil Collins. Follow-ups to alt.music.genesis, cause
I can't remember the name of the Peter Gabriel newsgroup. ^_^;

Joe Petrow
joe...@engin.umich.edu

[Jeff Tatarek]

In article <38vdc0$e...@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>

tbra...@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (T. Braybrook) writes:

>: and a full-length movie called Rock and Rule which was commercially unsuccessful
>: but really kicked butt. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>
>A Canadian Company did this? Wow! I thought it was a great movie! Jeez, and
>here I thought that all of our Canadian shows were bad....

I -think- it was Nelvana that animated Rock & Rule. I liked it, and still
pull out my copy from time to time, just for giggles.

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[Jeff Tatarek]

In article <38rqaj$l...@lynx.unm.edu>

je...@argo.unm.edu (Jon Van Hoose) writes:

>(Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, etc). I'm curious--what connection does this
>goddess have with anime?

The anime Nausicaa is from Hayao Miyazaki's absolutely beautiful manga
and feature film "Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind". This particular
Nausicaa is a gentle, kind princess who is thrown into all sorts of
politcal intrigue as well as impending ecological crisis. She can also
ride the winds like a true master with the aid of a jet-assisted glider.

The Nausicaa film is available in the US in a watered-down, butchered dub
entitled "Warriors of the Wind". It's worth watching, even with a half-hour
missing, if only for the wonderful artwork.

The manga is also available from Viz Comics. They've just wrapped up the
fourth volume.

[Stainless Steel Rat]

>>>>> "Jeff" == Jeff Tatarek <ZU0...@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu> writes:

Jeff> I -think- it was Nelvana that animated Rock & Rule.

Yup.

Jeff> "She can sing or she can SCREAM...but she's still pissed me off."

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In article <38rqaj$l...@lynx.unm.edu>, Jon Van Hoose <je...@argo.unm.edu> wrote:
>Rei Nakazawa (naka...@phakt.usc.edu) wrote:
>: Steven Biko was, I think, some kind of anti-apartheid protester who
>: was beaten to death in a South African jail. He became sort of a martyr

>Actually, ths song "Biko" was written and performed by Peter Gabriel for

>the film "Cry Freedom," which dealt with Biko's murder and its aftermath.

>: As for another anime ref, the aliens who stabbed Picard when he was
>: a cadet (causing him to get his artificial heart) were called
>: the Naussicans (sp?). I'm pretty sure this is right, despite the

>Hmmm...I really know nothing whatsoever about anime stuff, but Nausicaa

>was the name of a figure in Greek mythology--she was a wind/sea goddess,
>and the daughter of Alcinous and Arete (see The Odyssey, among others).
>The spelling "Nausicaa," which is used in the Okuda reference works, is
>the correct transliteration of the original Greek spelling (Nausikaa
>would also be acceptable). I always just assumed that the planet from
>which the Nausicaans come was called Nausicaa after this goddess,

None other than the Star Trek Compendium (or whatever that big book is
called) mentions the anime reference regarding the Nausicaans. Of
course, Miyazaki did get the name from the Phaeacian princess of the
same name.

Unfortunately, it also spells Yuridians without the "u". Oh well,
can't win them all.

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[BRIAN N.H. HUYNH]

Jeff Tatarek (ZU0...@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu) wrote:
: The Nausicaa film is available in the US in a watered-down, butchered dub

: entitled "Warriors of the Wind". It's worth watching, even with a half-hour
: missing, if only for the wonderful artwork.
:
: The manga is also available from Viz Comics. They've just wrapped up the
: fourth volume.

Thank you very much for convincing me to take a second look at Nausicaa. I
knew that the English version was edited, and I saw that the American
version had a sorta unappealing tape cover. I know this should belong in
alt.anime, but thanks for your post.

Brian Huynh

brih...@mercury.sfsu.edu

[Caroline Seawright]

mm>Also, in the episode where Riker and jis father duke it out
mm>in the
mm>gymnasium, there is a big banner that says "URUSEI
mm>YATSURA"...

Which episode was this one, and in which series? I've got to
have a look! ^_^

Ja, mata!

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[Nasser Hasian]

Also, in StarTRek: Generations, you learn that Sulu's wife is named....
HIKARU! (like from Kimagure Orange Road)

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Nasser Hasian (nha...@eis.calstate.edu) wrote:
: Also, in StarTRek: Generations, you learn that Sulu's wife is named....

: HIKARU! (like from Kimagure Orange Road)

umm... there are lots of people in Japan named Hikaru....

[Herbert Fung]

Sulu's full name is Hikaru Sulu. I don't think the name of his wife has
ever been revealed.

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[Keith J. Davey]

Nasser Hasian (nha...@eis.calstate.edu) wrote:
: Also, in StarTRek: Generations, you learn that Sulu's wife is named....

: HIKARU! (like from Kimagure Orange Road)

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Correction. Mr. Sulu's first name is Hikaru. That was mentioned in the sixth
move. Hikaru is a not a very gender specific name.

Keith Davey
kda...@oldcolo.com
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[Matthew Melmon]

In article <RTL6Vc...@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>,
herb...@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung) wrote:

> Sulu's full name is Hikaru Sulu. I don't think the name of his wife has
> ever been revealed.

Sulu's name being based on anime is a bit of a stretch, is it not?
I think people tend to forget Star Trek's age. Anime was not too
terribly relevant to LSD era America, and that which did exist didn't
much resemble what's out there today. Certainly Hikaru Hunter simply
could not have been an influence on anyone at the time. Unless Sulu's
first name hadn't been established until relatively recently - though
given the degree to which Trekery has been documented, I suspect that
would be easy to establish one way or the other. Is there some old
Hikaru I've forgotten in a bad trip?

Now, by the above, I do not mean to question the validity of anime
versus Star Trek, the validity of "old" anime versus "new" anime,
or imply only Americanized anime influence producers of television
series, or hint that Mr. Hunter is not a shining paragon of virtue.
I do, however, think those of you who cannot appreciate FSS are
mindless automatons incapable of creative thought, but THAT is
another thread...

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[simm...@yvax.byu.edu]

In article <mattm-21119...@melmon.apple.com>, ma...@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
> In article <RTL6Vc...@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>,
> herb...@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung) wrote:
>
>> Sulu's full name is Hikaru Sulu. I don't think the name of his wife has
>> ever been revealed.
>
> Sulu's name being based on anime is a bit of a stretch, is it not?
> I think people tend to forget Star Trek's age. Anime was not too
> terribly relevant to LSD era America, and that which did exist didn't
> much resemble what's out there today. Certainly Hikaru Hunter simply
> could not have been an influence on anyone at the time. Unless Sulu's
> first name hadn't been established until relatively recently - though
> given the degree to which Trekery has been documented, I suspect that
> would be easy to establish one way or the other. Is there some old
> Hikaru I've forgotten in a bad trip?

The very first Hikaru I can think of is Hikaru Genji, from Lady Murasaki's "The
Tale of Genji," dating back to the early 11th century AD. It seems to have been
a common first name throughout Japanese history. I know at least one person
named Hikaru myself. It means "light" (as in photons being radiated, not the
opposite of heavy, not the idea of what pink is compared to red).

As for Sulu, it's my understanding, (and somebody please fill in the gaps) that
he never had a first name throughout the TV series, and in fact wasn't named
until one of his appearances in the Star Trek novels. They're fun to read, but
are regarded as little better than Fanfics as far as being, (dare I say it?)
canonical. Enough people liked the name and accepted it to the point that
during the shooting of Star Trek 6, the producers(?) got clearance to pencil a
first name into the script where Captain Sulu was making his log entry, and the
rest is history.
Does anyone know which novel he got his name from, assuming my story checks
out? More importantly, when was it written?
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[the Cardinal]

In article <1994Nov2...@yvax.byu.edu>
simm...@yvax.byu.edu writes:

>
> As for Sulu, it's my understanding, (and somebody please fill in the gaps) that
> he never had a first name throughout the TV series, and in fact wasn't named
> until one of his appearances in the Star Trek novels. They're fun to read, but
> are regarded as little better than Fanfics as far as being, (dare I say it?)
> canonical. Enough people liked the name and accepted it to the point that
> during the shooting of Star Trek 6, the producers(?) got clearance to pencil a
> first name into the script where Captain Sulu was making his log entry, and the
> rest is history.
> Does anyone know which novel he got his name from, assuming my story checks
> out? More importantly, when was it written?

Sulu's first name of Hikaru was first authorized by Gene
Roddenberry in 1979 with his novelisation of Star Trek: The Motion
Picture. It was not, however, used on screen until ST VI. However, as
Gene was the one who created and authorized it, it has always been
considered canon.
Just thought I'd clear that up.

Card

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[Barry Hales]

In article <3atgmt$18...@hearst.cac.psu.edu>, jdd...@hearst.cac.psu.edu (the Cardinal) says:
>In article <1994Nov2...@yvax.byu.edu>
>simm...@yvax.byu.edu writes:
>> As for Sulu, it's my understanding, (and somebody please fill in the gaps) that
>> he never had a first name throughout the TV series

> Sulu's first name of Hikaru was first authorized by Gene

>Roddenberry in 1979 with his novelisation of Star Trek: The Motion
>Picture. It was not, however, used on screen until ST VI. However, as
>Gene was the one who created and authorized it, it has always been
>considered canon.
> Just thought I'd clear that up.

Sulu is named for the Sulu sea (near the Philipines?). As I understand
it (and was confirmed by George Takei in an interview), Hikara is a
traditional japanese name. I thought, however, that his first name was
decided at the inception of the character.

Barry

[reye...@maroon.tc.umn.edu]

On Tue, 22 Nov 1994 11:34:48 -0700,
simm...@yvax.byu.edu <simm...@yvax.byu.edu> wrote:

>Does anyone know which novel he got his name from, assuming my story checks
>out? More importantly, when was it written?

The first time I encountered the name "Hikaru Sulu" was in the novelization
of "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". It was in a scene were Sulu
laments being passed up for the captaincy of the Excelsior.

Josh Reyer

[Connie Cho]

In article <87147.r...@maroon.tc.umn.edu> reye...@maroon.tc.umn.edu (reye...@maroon.tc.umn.edu) writes:
>On Tue, 22 Nov 1994 11:34:48 -0700,
>simm...@yvax.byu.edu <simm...@yvax.byu.edu> wrote:
>
>>Does anyone know which novel he got his name from, assuming my story checks
>>out? More importantly, when was it written?
>
>The first time I encountered the name "Hikaru Sulu" was in the novelization
>of "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". It was in a scene were Sulu
>

I first came across the name Hikaru Sulu many years ago in one of
those novels based on the series. I wonder how that author got it.

>
>
>
>

[John A. Kilpatrick]

nha...@eis.calstate.edu (Nasser Hasian) writes:

>Also, in StarTRek: Generations, you learn that Sulu's wife is named....
>HIKARU! (like from Kimagure Orange Road)

Uh, no...sulu himself is named Hikaru.
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[Graham H. Watt]

Connie Cho (umch...@cc.umanitoba.ca) wrote:
: In article <87147.r...@maroon.tc.umn.edu>

Paramount Pictures Inc. , which hold copyright over all ST stuff, has a
continuity bible for authors of their paperback and hardback novels from
all three of the current threads of trekking. No doubt there will be a
fourth.

Since Sulu's name was not revealed UNTIL the 3rd or 6th movie (depending
on who listens... I don't know for sure myself.) it is quite likely that
there COULD be an Anime link to it. You'd have to check the publication
dates of the BOOKS to see when Paramount decided that was his name to be
even more sure.

I'd be willing to bet that Vonda McIntyre told them to give him a name
since she wrote the ST II novel. As well as ST IV novel, and other
novels, which are all worth picking up and reading. (Latest SW hardback)

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