[SPOILER] Evangelion 21-24
Donny CHAN
[BIG SPOILER ALERT]
Shin Seiki EVANGELION; aka Neon Cliche Evangelion [EVA]. TV.
Ep 21-24.
There are the occasional lengthy, static scenes, but there
are also enough new footages, except during the trailers, to make
me feel the animators hadn't been cheap.
Violence: There aren't much blood and gore, but there are
some dismemberment.
Ep 21. Fuyutsuki, Misato, Rei, and Ritsuko's backgrounds
between the years 1999 and 2015 are revealed.
Naoko: She was Ritsuko's mother, eh?
Hmm. The ED animation of Ep 21 didn't state who's Yui's
seiyuu. On the other paw, Naoko's seiyuu is Doi Mika! (Doi voiced
the female protagonists in Dunbine, Macross, Mospeada, and
Southern Cross.)
Ep 22. The damn Asuka speaks German again.
Longinus's Spear: I know its Biblical significance. What's
its importance in EVA?
Well, at least the choir isn't as annoying as "The Flight of
the Valkyries."
Hmm. Asuka's parents' seiyuu are Kawamura Maria (!) and Seki
Toshihiko.
Ep 23. A rare sight: Asuka and Hikari left their hair loose.
Naoko took out one Rei. Ritsuko outdid Naoko.
Ep 24. Where did Nagisa Kaworu (not "Kaoru") come from,
logistically? Another NERV base elsewhere on Earth? After all,
even when NERV needed an EVA-02 replacement pilot really fast,
they'd still security check Kaworu's background. Why did he seem
to be, er, attracted to Shin-chan?
Who amongst the main characters haven't been thrown into the
brig at least once? 8)
Shouldn't Shin-chan be temporarily blinded if he stared at
the self-destruct explosion?
Kaji: Is he really dead, or will he come back like Elvis?
Are NERV and SEELE the same organisation?
Are the Angels really evil? Or are they curious travellers
like the Invids in Mospeada?
[960417]
Don "Asuka = Quess" Chan
PS For an alternate reference on the theological elements in
EVA (eg, Lilith), I suggest:
Walker, Barbara G. _The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and
Secrets._ San Francisco, CA: Harper and Row, Publishers,
1983. 1,124 pages. ISBN 0-06-250926-8.
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Enrique Conty
In article <4lppab$n...@sam.inforamp.net> crs...@inforamp.net (Donny CHAN) writes:
>
> [BIG SPOILER ALERT]
He ain't kidding, folks. More after this ^L:
> Longinus's Spear: I know its Biblical significance. What's
>its importance in EVA?
I suspect it's the only thing that can
kill an Angel (or an *EVA*) at long range.
> Ep 24. Where did Nagisa Kaworu (not "Kaoru") come from, logistically?
Marduk sent him. But there is no such thing as Marduk.
>Why did he seem to be, er, attracted to Shin-chan?
To make him even *more* disquieting? Just a guess.
>Who amongst the main characters haven't been thrown into the
>brig at least once? 8)
Umm... Rei? ^_^;
> Shouldn't Shin-chan be temporarily blinded if he stared at
>the self-destruct explosion?
Not neccesarily.
> Kaji: Is he really dead, or will he come back like Elvis?
He is dead, and wrapped in plaNONONONONONO!!! ^_^;;
> Are NERV and SEELE the same organisation?
*NO!* Very few people know SEELE even exists! The connection between
SEELE, NERV, the Instrumentality Project, Rei, the Dead Sea Scrolls
the Evangelion units, and the Angels is the biggest secret of the story.
But SEELE is at the center of it all.
>Are the Angels really evil? Or are they curious travellers
>like the Invids in Mospeada?
. . .
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In article <4ls1i6$q...@trotsky.cig.mot.com>,
co...@rtsg.mot.com (Enrique Conty) wrote:
]> [BIG SPOILER ALERT]
]
]He ain't kidding, folks. More after this ^L:
]
]
]> Ep 24. Where did Nagisa Kaworu (not "Kaoru") come from, logistically?
]
]Marduk sent him. But there is no such thing as Marduk.
I guess this was explained in Ep 25-26?
Don "Asuka = Quess" Chan
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Herman Bernard Walker
In article <4lv6s5$4...@news.inforamp.net>,
Donny CHAN <crs...@inforamp.net> wrote:
>In article <4ls1i6$q...@trotsky.cig.mot.com>,
> co...@rtsg.mot.com (Enrique Conty) wrote:
>]> [BIG SPOILER ALERT]
>]
>]He ain't kidding, folks. More after this ^L:
>]> Ep 24. Where did Nagisa Kaworu (not "Kaoru") come from, logistically?
>]
>]Marduk sent him. But there is no such thing as Marduk.
>
>I guess this was explained in Ep 25-26?
About ep. 17, actually.
>
>Don "Asuka = Quess" Chan
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Enrique Conty
In article <4lv6s5$4...@news.inforamp.net> crs...@inforamp.net (Donny CHAN) writes:
>
>]Marduk sent him. But there is no such thing as Marduk.
>I guess this was explained in Ep 25-26?
No, this was explained in 20. Remember the conversation Kaji had with
that woman in the abandoned building?
Mayeen Alam
In article <4lppab$n...@sam.inforamp.net>,
Donny CHAN <crs...@inforamp.net> wrote:
> [BIG SPOILER ALERT]
>
> Shin Seiki EVANGELION; aka Neon Cliche Evangelion [EVA]. TV.
>Ep 21-24.
> Violence: There aren't much blood and gore, but there are
>some dismemberment.
What violence there is is disturbing though. Ugly real, and
sickening.
> Ep 22. The damn Asuka speaks German again.
I liked it. German sounds so cute in Japanese! German in
German.... well... (bleah)
> Longinus's Spear: I know its Biblical significance. What's
>its importance in EVA?
One of two things:
Christian mythology version 1.0: Powerful weapon,
possibly God killer (or God serious hurter).
C.M. V2.0: The bringer of light and wisdom. The granter
of victory.
> Hmm. Asuka's parents' seiyuu are Kawamura Maria (!) and Seki
>Toshihiko.
Whoa!
> Ep 23. A rare sight: Asuka and Hikari left their hair loose.
I like Asuka's new look <sadistic grin>
> Naoko took out one Rei. Ritsuko outdid Naoko.
Rei laughing reminded me earily of Amano Ai (Video Girl Ai)... No
wonder I found that scene scary....
> Ep 24. Where did Nagisa Kaworu (not "Kaoru") come from,
>logistically? Another NERV base elsewhere on Earth? After all,
>even when NERV needed an EVA-02 replacement pilot really fast,
>they'd still security check Kaworu's background. Why did he seem
>to be, er, attracted to Shin-chan?
Didn't Shin-chan seem to, er, reciprocate?
> Who amongst the main characters haven't been thrown into the
>brig at least once? 8)
Rei (it wouldn't affect her, and she might actually find the
accomodations more comfortable), and Asuka (If it was me: "Oh... The
pilot of 02 is supposed to be released? Hmmm... I seem to have misplaced
the keys...")
> Shouldn't Shin-chan be temporarily blinded if he stared at
>the self-destruct explosion?
This isn't as surprising as watching an NN bomb going off
*outside* an Eva. At least it wasn't his eyes catching the rays in this
case.
> Kaji: Is he really dead, or will he come back like Elvis?
Yes to both (Elvis ressurectionists beware, I carry asbestos suit
and copies of LM and M Jackson's marriage certificates)
> Are NERV and SEELE the same organisation?
Nopers.
> Are the Angels really evil? Or are they curious travellers
>like the Invids in Mospeada?
Well... in the Gnostic tradition, Angels try at every step to
prevent people from acheiving oneness with the Godhead... They are also
usually very good (just fearsome guard dogs when it comes to this
aspect). So... No to both I would say.
Neon GE isn't the first anime to take a religion's icon set and
use it for it's own purposes, but it is one of the few that actually
swallows the entire thing whole instead of doing a slight basterdized
cover of it's chief icons (3x3 eyes, Blue Seed, RG Veda, et al comes to
mind).
Read a few books by Carl Jung, and the symbols (there are a
*lot*) just pop out at you left and right. I know I don't hear the ED
song the same way anymore.
> [960417]
>
> Don "Asuka = Quess" Chan
>
>PS For an alternate reference on the theological elements in
> EVA (eg, Lilith), I suggest:
> Walker, Barbara G. _The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and
> Secrets._ San Francisco, CA: Harper and Row, Publishers,
> 1983. 1,124 pages. ISBN 0-06-250926-8.
Can you tell me what it says?
The Lillith I know of is not in the least a nice lady. Everything
from Vampirism to Jezabelism be attributed to that one.
-M.
("Fly me to the moon...")
Donny CHAN
In article <malamDq...@netcom.com>, ma...@netcom.com (Mayeen Alam) wrote:
]
]> [BIG SPOILER ALERT]
]
]
]
]
]> Longinus's Spear: I know its Biblical significance. What's
]>its importance in EVA?
]
] One of two things:
] Christian mythology version 1.0: Powerful weapon,
] possibly God killer (or God serious hurter).
] C.M. V2.0: The bringer of light and wisdom. The granter
] of victory.
I've always wondered how an active-duty Roman Centurion can be blind?
]>they'd still security check Kaworu's background. Why did he seem
]>to be, er, attracted to Shin-chan?
]
] Didn't Shin-chan seem to, er, reciprocate?
Maybe Shin-chan didn't know any better.
]> Who amongst the main characters haven't been thrown into the
]>brig at least once? 8)
]
] Rei (it wouldn't affect her, and she might actually find the
]accomodations more comfortable), and Asuka (If it was me: "Oh... The
]pilot of 02 is supposed to be released? Hmmm... I seem to have misplaced
]the keys...")
Isn't there more than one Asuka fan in r.a.a?
]> Kaji: Is he really dead, or will he come back like Elvis?
]
] Yes to both (Elvis ressurectionists beware, I carry asbestos suit
]and copies of LM and M Jackson's marriage certificates)
Grr. The Kaji came back in Ep 25-26.
]>PS For an alternate reference on the theological elements in
]> EVA (eg, Lilith), I suggest:
]> Walker, Barbara G. _The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and
]> Secrets._ San Francisco, CA: Harper and Row, Publishers,
]> 1983. 1,124 pages. ISBN 0-06-250926-8.
]
] Can you tell me what it says?
] The Lillith I know of is not in the least a nice lady. Everything
]from Vampirism to Jezabelism be attributed to that one.
[OFF-TOPIC ALERT]
[FLAMEBAIT ALERT]
IIRC, God created Lilith as Adam's first mate, but Lilith was, er, too
obstinate for Adam and left him. She would rather be, er, with devils instead.
When God sent three Angels to fetch Lilith, she cursed them and they returned
to God. God then created the, er, more docile Eve for Adam.
Don "Asuka = Quess" Chan
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Enrique Conty
In article <malamDq...@netcom.com> ma...@netcom.com (Mayeen Alam) writes:
>
>In article <4lppab$n...@sam.inforamp.net>,
>Donny CHAN <crs...@inforamp.net> wrote:
>> [BIG SPOILER ALERT]
And another ^L follows:
> Well... in the Gnostic tradition, Angels try at every step to
>prevent people from acheiving oneness with the Godhead...
<Ding!> *THAT* was the goal of the Instrumentality of Man Project!
Now episodes 25 and 26 make sense.
>>PS For an alternate reference on the theological elements in
>> EVA (eg, Lilith), I suggest:
>> Walker, Barbara G. _The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and
>> Secrets._ San Francisco, CA: Harper and Row, Publishers,
>> 1983. 1,124 pages. ISBN 0-06-250926-8.
>
> Can you tell me what it says?
In Jewish lore Lilith is *demonic*,
Adam's first wife, and spawner of devils.
If I remember correctly, the version in Walker's book was
a revisionist take on the character, painting her as a
positive female role (or something like that, it's been ages).
Enrique Conty
>Grr. The Kaji came back in Ep 25-26.
No, that was "the Kaji in Shinji Ikari's mind".
Which is different from "the Kaji in Donny Chan's mind".
Which is different from "the Kaji in Enrique Conty's mind".
Which is different from "the dead Kaji".
M.R. Opel
>In article <4lppab$n...@sam.inforamp.net>,
>Donny CHAN <crs...@inforamp.net> wrote:
>> [BIG SPOILER ALERT]
>
>
>
>
>>logistically? Another NERV base elsewhere on Earth? After all,
>>even when NERV needed an EVA-02 replacement pilot really fast,
>>to be, er, attracted to Shin-chan?
ever had any) erased. Ikari and crew didn't realize that they were trying
to "push the schedule forward, using us" until it was too late. One
possibility is that Kaoru is the embryo from eps. 8, after it matured in
Seele's care.
>> Shouldn't Shin-chan be temporarily blinded if he stared at
>>the self-destruct explosion?
>> Are NERV and SEELE the same organisation?
has 9 nearly complete Eva units, and is none too fond of Nerv any more.
This could get REALLY nasty!)
>> Are the Angels really evil? Or are they curious travellers
>>like the Invids in Mospeada?
from us, that it is impossible to understand their true motivations.
(Although the last few Angels seem to be getting better and better at
understanding _us_, it's not an even exchange!)
Nonetheless, the relationship between humans and Angels runs very deep -
recall the near identity of human genes with the wave pattern of the alien
matter that the Angels are made of. Perhaps the Angels are visitors from
another cosmos, which have been manipulating life on Earth in order to
create Man in their own image. I doubt that there is a God in the world
of Eva - just Angels.
-Matt Opel
Elizabeth HL Horn
Although this is going to the last two episodes, I wonder if the
Angels exist in a state of "instrumentality" as the human race (or at
least, NERV) begins to. Anno advances the intriguing concept--which
one doesn't have to accept--that there is a larger identity for the
individual to derive if only it were possible for you to integrate the
conception of yourself in *other* people's minds into yourself, which
is what the Instrumentality Project made possible. This is
particularly vital to Shinji, as he hates himself based on his
self-image (Asuka and Misato have this problem to an extent as well)
alone. The "Instrumentality of Man" is not a merging of humanity's
minds so that a sense of the individual is lost--rather, it appears to
be a way for one to know with certainty the relation of one's own
individual identity to every other individual in the human race.
Whereas before you were independent and separated, you are now
independent and irretriveably linked. Whether this would make us as
"gods" is something not easy to answer, but it would definitely be a
new chapter in human evolution. The prospect calls to mind the same
quote (I Corinthians 13:12) Oshii used in GHOST: "For now we see
through a glass, and darkly; but then face to face: now I know in
part; but then shall I know even as also I am known."
--Carl "Some will die in hot pursuit while sifting through my ashes" Horn
Enrique Conty
In article <ziziDqw...@netcom.com> zi...@netcom.com (Elizabeth HL Horn) writes:
>The "Instrumentality of Man" is not a merging of humanity's
>minds so that a sense of the individual is lost--rather, it appears to
>be a way for one to know with certainty the relation of one's own
>individual identity to every other individual in the human race.
Exactly. The ability to view oneself and ones surroundings not from the
single point of view of the self, but from the point of view of every other
person who can see them. Personally, I've found this ability to view life
with "different eyes" (as it were) to be very helpful in putting things in
perspective. This kind of *total* view would be the closest thing the human
mind can come to total understanding, and what is godhood but total and
absolute understanding of the self and the world around it?
James Lynn
: In article <ziziDqw...@netcom.com> zi...@netcom.com (Elizabeth HL Horn) writes:
: >The "Instrumentality of Man" is not a merging of humanity's
: >minds so that a sense of the individual is lost--rather, it appears to
: >be a way for one to know with certainty the relation of one's own
: >individual identity to every other individual in the human race.
Quick digression; I gotta know. Is the use of the term "Instrumentality
of Mankind" have anything to do with a Cordwainer Smith influence (has he
been translated into Japanese?), or is it sheer coincidence, or are both
mythos drawing on a specific term that originates in a different context?
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James Lynn (jam...@garcia.efn.org) wrote:
> : In article <ziziDqw...@netcom.com> zi...@netcom.com (Elizabeth HL Horn) writes:
> : >The "Instrumentality of Man" is not a merging of humanity's
> Quick digression; I gotta know. Is the use of the term "Instrumentality
> of Mankind" have anything to do with a Cordwainer Smith influence (has he
> been translated into Japanese?), or is it sheer coincidence, or are both
> mythos drawing on a specific term that originates in a different context?
It *is* a direct homage (read "stolen from" ^_^ ) to Cordwainer Smith's
science fiction works, although the Evangelion's "Instrumentality"
differs greatly from Smith's "Instrumentality". All of Smith's works
have been translated into Japanese and apparently Anno is a fan of
his work.
Marc Hairston
Elizabeth HL Horn
In article <4mlho4$i...@mars.efn.org>, James Lynn <jam...@garcia.efn.org> wrote:
>: In article <ziziDqw...@netcom.com> zi...@netcom.com (Elizabeth HL Horn) writes:
>: >The "Instrumentality of Man" is not a merging of humanity's
>: >be a way for one to know with certainty the relation of one's own
>: >individual identity to every other individual in the human race.
>
>of Mankind" have anything to do with a Cordwainer Smith influence (has he
>been translated into Japanese?), or is it sheer coincidence, or are both
>mythos drawing on a specific term that originates in a different context?
>
>Theresa Wymer posting from jam...@efn.org
>
Yes, the term is from Cordwainer Smith. He, Arthur C. Clarke, Philip
K. Dick, and Harlan Ellison all had their influences on EVA.
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Enrique Conty
In article <4mlho4$i...@mars.efn.org> jam...@garcia.efn.org (James Lynn) writes:
>
>Quick digression; I gotta know. Is the use of the term "Instrumentality
>of Mankind" have anything to do with a Cordwainer Smith influence
It *IS* a Cordwainer Smith reference.
Tze-yau Huang
In <4mbioa$k...@news.inforamp.net>, crs...@inforamp.net
(Donny CHAN) wrote:
> Isn't there more than one Asuka fan in r.a.a?
I mustn't been the only one. Asuka may be like Quess in many regard,
but she is far more popular than Quess. Amazingly, according to the
Newtype character poll, her popularity rose(more or less double in
the last month of the show) at the expanse of Rei Ayanami. Rei still
beat her two to one, through.
After hearing that her mother was played by Maria Kawamura, I realize
she should be the voice for Asuka. The pair works together great in
the "Slayers". And Naga-Rina releationship is not unlike Asuka-Rei
releationship in many regard. I can just imagine Quess(opp, Maria)
saying "Anton Baka". ^_^
Jim "Lovers of Quess Paraya unite!" Huang
Donny CHAN
In article <4mo3g8$s...@agate.berkeley.edu>,
tyh...@OCF.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang) wrote:
]
]After hearing that her mother was played by Maria Kawamura, I realize
]the "Slayers". And Naga-Rina releationship is not unlike Asuka-Rei
]releationship in many regard. I can just imagine Quess(opp, Maria)
The seiyuu of 1980s bishoujo characters, like Kawamura Maria (Cham Faw in
Dunbine, Gaw Ha Leccee and Lilis Faw in L-Gaim, Quess in Gundam:CCA) and
Tominaga Miina, have matured and lost the protagonists' roles to the new
batch of seiyuu, like Hayashibara Megumi (Ranma-chan), Hisakawa Aya (Ami-chan
in SM) and Mitsuishi Kotono (Usagi-chan in SM). For instance, in Sazan Aizu
II, Kawamura Maria voiced the doll-monster that fought Yakumo. In the
mid-1990s, there are yet more new seiyuu who get the title roles, such as
Sakurai Tomo (Meimi in St Tail). I'm glad at least Tsuru Hiromi still has the
role of Arai Kiyomi in the Graduation series, though she voiced Akira, the
villainess in Natsuki Crisis (of course I'd wished she got the title role of
Natsuki ;_;). Others, like Sakamoto Chika, managed to stay active in the
seiyuu business over the years. On the other paw, some veteran seiyuu have
been popping up here and there as the guest seiyuu of temporary characters in
recent anime. Eg, Doi Mika in Rurouni Kenshin.
Alas, to quote one of my profs, "You're either on the train, or on the tracks
(in front of the train)."
Tze-yau Huang
Donny Chan wrote:
> ]After hearing that her mother was played by Maria Kawamura, I realize
> ]she should be the voice for Asuka. The pair works together great in
> ]the "Slayers". And Naga-Rina releationship is not unlike Asuka-Rei
> ]releationship in many regard. I can just imagine Quess(opp, Maria)
>
> The seiyuu of 1980s bishoujo characters, like Kawamura Maria (Cham Faw in
> Dunbine, Gaw Ha Leccee and Lilis Faw in L-Gaim, Quess in Gundam:CCA) and
> Tominaga Miina, have matured and lost the protagonists' roles to the new
I know I will take flak for this, but I personally do not consider
Noa Izumi bishoujo. That's doesn't mean I don't like her. But the
charm of her to me had always based on the fact that she is NOT
bishoujo.
> batch of seiyuu, like Hayashibara Megumi (Ranma-chan), Hisakawa Aya (Ami-chan
Those two's debut isn't that much apart. Maria with Dubine and
Megumi with Maison. I think Maria is on the right way to restart her
carerr. She basically took off for a few years after her marriage to
Mamoru Nagano. I guess his lazynesss affected her, too. ^_^
(According to Nagao's barb in F.S.S., those two spend two much time
playing V.F. with each other.)
> in SM) and Mitsuishi Kotono (Usagi-chan in SM). For instance, in Sazan Aizu
> II, Kawamura Maria voiced the doll-monster that fought Yakumo. In the
> mid-1990s, there are yet more new seiyuu who get the title roles, such as
But Naga is also a very important role in "Slayers". I would say
almost as important as Asuka in Eva.
> Sakurai Tomo (Meimi in St Tail). I'm glad at least Tsuru Hiromi still has the
She already got a title role in Macross 7 before that. And Marin is
also a more or less major bit character.
Now, if Akiko Nakagawa get a title role based on her Flower Girl role
in M7 ......
> role of Arai Kiyomi in the Graduation series, though she voiced Akira, the
> villainess in Natsuki Crisis (of course I'd wished she got the title role of
> Natsuki ;_;). Others, like Sakamoto Chika, managed to stay active in the
To me, nothing beat her role as Miyuki Kashima in Miyuki. I still
can't decided between those two Miyuki. ^_^
> seiyuu business over the years. On the other paw, some veteran seiyuu have
> been popping up here and there as the guest seiyuu of temporary characters in
> recent anime. Eg, Doi Mika in Rurouni Kenshin.
Now, that's one truely ancient seiyuu. Didn't she voiced my childhood
favorite, Candy of Candy! Candy!?
> Alas, to quote one of my profs, "You're either on the train, or on the tracks
> (in front of the train)."
Well, the Seiyuu business is turning into idol business. Being the
one who once said, "For people of my generation, Nakamori Akina is
like an Obasan."(That's the time before I feel like Oji ocassionally),
I can understand what's happening. It's just make me feel old myself.
Jim "Asuka = Quess" Huang
Elizabeth HL Horn
I will say this; that I'm glad to hear people talking about Maria
Kawamura again. Anyone who feels the way I do about MEGAZONE TWO THREE
would...Her being in KISHIN HEIDAN (it sounds so much cooler in
Japanese) was a bonus to a cool OAV series. I had never known she
married Nagano.
This is what happens when you don't haunt the afurecos like some otaku
do...
--Carl "Lands of green and skies of blue" Horn
Enrique Conty
In article <4mvk8u$s...@agate.berkeley.edu> tyh...@OCF.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang) writes:
>
>Donny Chan wrote:
>> The seiyuu of 1980s bishoujo characters, like Kawamura Maria (Cham Faw in
>> Dunbine, Gaw Ha Leccee and Lilis Faw in L-Gaim, Quess in Gundam:CCA) and
>> Tominaga Miina
>
>Noa Izumi bishoujo.
Note that he left HER out of the list!
(And I agree with you. Sexycute she ain't. And that's
part of what makes her character fun to watch!)
Tze-yau Huang
In <4n3uqq$g...@trotsky.cig.mot.com>, co...@rtsg.mot.com (Enrique
Conty) wrote:
> >Donny Chan wrote:
> >> The seiyuu of 1980s bishoujo characters, like Kawamura Maria (Cham Faw in
> >> Dunbine, Gaw Ha Leccee and Lilis Faw in L-Gaim, Quess in Gundam:CCA) and
> >> Tominaga Miina
> >I know I will take flak for this, but I personally do not consider
> >Noa Izumi bishoujo.
> Note that he left HER out of the list!
Well, I don't think Donny listed any character for Miina. So I kind
just used her most famous character(on R.A.A.). Beside Patlabor, I
think she only act the title role for "Fairy of Magic: Pelsia".(I may
be wrong) But she did played several memoriable support characters,
Nitta Yuka(Touch), Nanao Kozue(MI), etc.
> (And I agree with you. Sexycute she ain't. And that's
> part of what makes her character fun to watch!)
Too bad they don't seem to make heroine like her anymore.