Kaze no Tani BBS (Animag's BBS)
Mark F. Newton
BBS, Valley of Wind. Some of the news is old, but some of it may be
interesting. It is real long, but if anyone has suggestions, let me
know. (I hope I don't get yelled at for posting such a large
message...) The messages are mainly about the magazine, and
publishing. I think I edited most of the junk out.
Animag Message Area
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This area is for the discussions regarding ANIMAG, the
Magazine of Japanese Animation.
"#6 - Animag" selected.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 1. 10-10-89 22:47.06
From: Frank Sewald
To: All
Subject: ANIMAG 8
ALSO SEE: 4.
When will animag 8 be out???
FS
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 2. 10-10-89 17:54.23
From: Andrew Lison
To: All
Subject: ANIMAG GIN GENERAL
ALSO SEE: 5.
Why doesn't ANIMAG come out bimonthly like it says so, and how come issue
6 has a Ronin Network dated December 25, 1988???
The man : Andy Boy
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 3. 10-10-89 19:44.41 (NO KILL)
From: David Chiu
To: All Who Cares
Subject: BEST GUESS...
ALSO SEE: 6.
is that it will be late (again), which comes as a suprise to no one....
since the conception of Animag, (I remember it was in my high school days)
there has only been 7 issues, and I have graduated from high school for
close to 3 years now... that comes down to... roughly 5 month inbetween
each issue, on the average?...
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 4. 10-10-89 24:52.45 (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Frank Sewald
Subject: ANIMAG 8
ALSO SEE: 1.
Animag #8 should be out sometime this month, though we'll know sooner when
we get the blue lines back from the printers.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 5. 10-10-89 24:54.52 (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Andrew Lison
Subject: ANIMAG FREQUENCY
ALSO SEE: 2.
Well, we originally planned to have the issues come out bi-monthly, but
various delays in production have generally prevented this. This was true
for issues #5 and #6. Issues #7 and hopefully #8 and #9 have been and will
be more or less released on a bi-monthly schedule.
As for the date on the Ronin Network newsletter, that was due to the fact
that there were delays during that time, and when the newsletter was being
put together, that date was the expected time that it was to be released.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 6. 10-10-89 1:06.28 (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: David Chiu
Subject: BEST GUESS...
ALSO SEE: 3.
Whether the issue is late or not right now more or less depends on our
printer's reliability to get it out on time. Our first issue came out in
July of '87, and our last issue was out in August of '89. By my estimates
that makes about 3.5 months between issues, not taking into account that
up until #5 we were on a quarterly schedule.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 7. 10-14-89 15:03.04
From: Aaron Lea
To: Animag
Subject: CONTENTS
What is gonna be in the upcoming issue. For the first time, I had been
able to get consecitive issues(6 and 7)..
Aaron
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 8. 10-14-89 14:23.59 (NO KILL)
From: Andrew Lison
To: Animag
Subject: ORGUSS
ALSO SEE: 10.
Could somebody publish an episode synopsis for Orguss in Animag?? Let me
know by BBS message.
Andy Boy
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 9. 10-17-89 20:46.44
From: David Chiu
To: Donna Fong
Subject: ANIMAG #8
ALSO SEE: 11.
Well, I think I will have to take back what I have said about been late,
etc.... Just saw #8 in Nikaku. Didn't buy it because I was out of money...
but I am impressed, and amazed (at on-time-ness of recent issues)... keep
it up!
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 10. 10-17-89 23:36.31 (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Andrew Lison
Subject: ORGUSS
ALSO SEE: 8.
Well, someone on the staff was working on an article on Orguss, though I
don't know the relative status of that article, or if/when it will be
published.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 11. 10-17-89 23:37.41 (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: David Chiu
Subject: ANIMAG #8
ALSO SEE: 9.
Sheesh, people keep seeing the damn thing before I do! (grin) Anyways, it'
Dana, not "Donna" BTW.....
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 13. 10-31-89 16:10.34 (NO KILL)
From: David Mou
To: Animag
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 16, 20.
more, MORE, OAV's synopsis 'kudasai'!! Someone should do a feature on
Ariel. BTW when's A0-ko 4 coming out? On Animag?
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 14. 10-31-89 19:47.29 (RECV'D)
From: Eamon Ho
To: David Mou
Subject: ARIEL
ALSO SEE: 17, 21.
I noticed your post about Ariel on the other section, and I wanted to know,
having only seen one little segment at one of the screenings, if it's
worth renting the tape at JV, or what? Heh, Our rentals from Saturday are
still out (we took all the good stuff) then the car broke down, so not
it's federal express....
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 15. 11-01-89 1:20.33 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Larry Greenfield
To: Dana Fong
Subject: DONNA?
ALSO SEE: 19.
Donna Fong? As in "Donna koto ga atte mo....DO NOT PRESS THIS BUTTON!"?
heh
Well, on to what this post is REALLY about (do I HAVE to?)
Yes, ok...
ANIMAG #9... Are you sill planning to do a story on Grave of the Fireflies
as a side-bar story to Miyazaki.. and what's your Miyazaki story going to
be like? How about an interview (or perhaps if you can get the rights,
translating the millions of interviews he's done... or at least 1 or 2...
You can find them in Animage, the Roman Albums for the movies he's done,
etc....)
Larry the "Way to go Hayao 'Bud' Miyazaki" man...
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 16. 11-01-89 10:51.11 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Takayuki Karahashi
To: David Mou
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 13, 22.
A.R.I.E.L.? Sure, I'll do the synopsis of the English trailer. <evil
grin> Project A-ko "the Final Chapter" is getting released November 21.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 17. 11-01-89 11:06.01 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Takayuki Karahashi
To: Eamon Ho
Subject: ARIEL
ALSO SEE: 14, 18.
Sure, just get both volumes at once. The two volumes are co-dependent.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 18. 11-01-89 18:29.21 (RECV'D)
From: Eamon Ho
To: Takayuki Karahashi
Subject: ARIEL
ALSO SEE: 17.
Thanks. I'll have to see about a new membership at the store in the
meantime, though I didn't notice two tapes at JV last time.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 19. 11-03-89 24:06.25 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Larry Greenfield
Subject: DONNA?MIYAZAKI IN #9
ALSO SEE: 15.
As far as I know there isn't going to be any coverage of Grave of the
Fireflies in #9, but then again things have been constantly changing so I
could be wrong. There *is* going to be an article on Miyazaki and his
works though (Grave wouldn't count since it wasn't done by him) that'll be
in #9. We weren't fortunate enough to get an interview with him, but I'm
sure if the chance ever arises we wouldn't miss it. I haven't actually
read the article so I'm not sure the specific aspects of it, but perhaps
you could ask Taka, since he was involved in its writing.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 20. 11-03-89 1:01.37 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: David Mou
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 13, 23.
Well, we're trying to move away from heavy synopsis articles so you may be
out of luck if you want more OAV synopses. We tend to choose subjects
that we feel would be interesting enough to appeal to a broad amount of
our readers, but at the same time trying to avoid subjects that have
thoroughly covered elsewhere. We've only done an article on the first
A-ko video, and since it was the one that best exemplified the theme of
the A-ko videos, I don't it'd be necessary to cover the other videos.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 21. 11-04-89 18:03.47 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: David Mou
To: Eamon Ho
Subject: NO WONDER
ALSO SEE: 14, 25.
I was at JV today and they have NOTHING. Well they still have Earthians
and this new Orange Road thingy? ( don't know what.) Public Trans can get
you to JV and/or LP but the MUNI is just slow as hell as usual.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 22. 11-04-89 18:06.09 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: David Mou
To: Takayuki Karahashi
Subject: ARIEL
ALSO SEE: 16, 24.
believer me there are novels for Ariel (4! of them). I would sure like to
try to write something like the Ariel English trailer, though I may have
to try hard.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 23. 11-04-89 18:08.20 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: David Mou
To: Dana Fong
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 20, 26, 27.
I would think Dirty Pair was throughly covered in Animag #4, and yet we
have more... And what about Yamato? OK, so I like weird videos (90% of
Japan Video falls into that catagory). So how about a subject for weird
videos.
And how about more free posters (ie. Animag #2)
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 24. 11-05-89 11:08.04 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Takayuki Karahashi
To: David Mou
Subject: ARIEL
ALSO SEE: 22, 28.
That's right, ARIEL was first a series of novels written by Yuichi
Sasamoto. A friend who's read them says they're hiralious. I can believe
that. Sasamoto was the one who wrote the Halloween Dirty Pair episode (#2
of the OAV series).
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 25. 11-05-89 13:07.03 (RECV'D)
From: Eamon Ho
To: David Mou
Subject: JV
ALSO SEE: 21, 29.
Well, we mailed the tapes back yesterday (first class) so I;m sure they
will be happy. They don't carry enough of the type of video I need anyway,
I'm going to check out Japan Culture Video in San Jose, though I hear
that they also will actually copy the tapes for you (A Video STORE!!!)
pretty well. Also, if you like OAV's, it's usually cheaper to buy (if
they have it) from Mikado than to rent from JV next door....
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 26. 11-05-89 22:51.15 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: David Mou
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 23, 30.
Well, we didn't "completely" cover Dirty Pair in #4, so we decided to more
or less finish it up in issue #8. Yamato is the main subject of issue #10
BTW if you didn't know already...of course, you'd have to define "weird"
videos to really try do anything on them. What might be weird for you
might be normal for someone else, so it's hard to try and make an easy
determination. Of course, if you'd like to be more specific than maybe
I'd have something more to go on.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 28. 11-06-89 20:14.08 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: David Mou
To: Takayuki Karahashi
Subject: ARIEL
ALSO SEE: 24, 31.
I guess the little problem for me with Ariel is not knowing what kind of
humor to expect from the video, sort of like Gunbuster. Many people in
the audience who experienced Ariel with me didn't quite manage to get the
humors until the jokes have already passed. The action sequence was so
'bad' I really enjoyed it. The bit about the Mysterious Astronaut....
well... Interesting piece of information (who wrote what.), I'll impress
someone with it next time at some anime party.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 29. 11-06-89 20:19.23 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: David Mou
To: Eamon Ho
Subject: JV
ALSO SEE: 25, 33.
Mikado only has the few basic stuffs, at N dollars a piece. I guess I'll
get my megazone 1 & 2 from them someday. (speaking of megazone I've seen
it so many, many, many times I've decided to copy some Dirty Pair over it,
since the copy I had was pretty bad). I guess the video collecting has,
for me, evolved into LD or naut situation. Yes I'm saving money. No I'm
not eating dinner tonight...
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 30. 11-06-89 20:23.38 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: David Mou
To: Dana Fong
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 26, 32.
so serious was your reply that I'm thinking twice about using the lighter
tone in our conversations. I shall for now on type <grin> with brakets
around it. I can certainly live with Yamato, no problem... I still have
two Dirty Pair posters on my wall. Oh well, when I'm talking about weird
videos I'm thinking in terms of the Ultimate Teacher or Schichifu Yama,
and if anyone thinks that they're normal, well.... Animag looks good,
don't change a thing..
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 31. 11-07-89 12:06.58 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Takayuki Karahashi
To: David Mou
Subject: ARIEL
ALSO SEE: 28, 40.
Not having read the novels myself, I wasn't too impressed with the
animation, and it would have been nice to see ARIEL in full glory. The
credits say Sasamoto wrote the video's script with another script writer.
Maybe there was footdragging. <grin>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 32. 11-08-89 24:44.04 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: David Mou
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 30, 42.
Oh, I don't mean to sound too formal or serious in my replies, it's just
that since this is a public BBS, everyone sees them, so I try not to say
anything that might be taken wrongly. For instance, if I said there was
going to be an all "etchi" issue of Animag featuring Urotsukidoji, Cream
Lemon, Lolita anime, etc. etc. someone out there might *ACTUALLY* believe
me and expect us to put out such an issue. It might sound strange, but it
does happen.
It's true though, that there are "strange" videos like the ones you
mentioned that many viewers on this side of the Pacific can't make heads
or tails out of. But, being such they tend to have less appeal to people
simply because they're too strange or hard to understand, and since we try
to cover things that have broader appeal, we tend not to consider them.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 34. 11-08-89 22:54.32
From: Andy Louie
To: Animag
Subject: ARTICLES
ALSO SEE: 36.
DEAR ANIMAG ARE YOU GOING TO DO ANY ARTICLES ON GALL FORCE,BUBBLEGUM
CRISIS,APPLESEED,PROJECT A-KO,PATLABOR. OH,AND WHEN DOES THE VIDEO FOR BGC
6 AND GALL FORCE 4 COME OUT ON VIDEOTAPE.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 35. 11-08-89 22:58.07
From: Andy Louie
To: Animag
Subject: ANIMATION
ALSO SEE: 37.
QUESTION IS PROJECT A-KO COMING TO AN END?
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 36. 11-09-89 2:57.04 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Andy Louie
Subject: ARTICLES
ALSO SEE: 34.
Regarding your questions about future articles:
-We're currently planning on having the much-delayed article on Gall
Force (first 3 videos) in our upcoming issue #9.
-We've covered Bubblegum Crisis 1 in #2, and BGC 2 & 3 in #4. We've
considered doing something on BGC 4-6, but nothing's definite yet.
-Project A-ko (first movie) we covered in issue #5. There are no
current plans for any further coverage of the other videos.
-Patlabor is another consideration, because of the recent debut of the
t.v. series and the movie, but again nothing's definite.
-We have no current plans for Appleseed.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 37. 11-09-89 3:04.35 (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Andy Louie
Subject: PROJECT A-KO
ALSO SEE: 35.
Yes, supposedly Project A-ko 4 will be the last video of the series.
In the future, please refer questions on animation in area #4 of this BBS
system, and post them to "all".
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 38. 11-10-89 20:46.12
From: David Chiu
To: Dana
Subject: ANIMAG #9
ALSO SEE: 39.
Any release date in mind?
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 39. 11-11-89 12:19.53 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: David Chiu
Subject: ANIMAG #9
ALSO SEE: 38, 47.
Hopefully by mid-December. BTW, this'll be our last "bi-monthly" issue
for a while. We're going back to a quarterly schedule since it's a lot
less stressful on the staff. So, probably issue #10 will be released
somEw?ere around March or so.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 40. 11-12-89 1:16.18 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: David Mou
To: Takayuki Karahashi
Subject: THEN AGAIN
ALSO SEE: 31, 43.
there will always be Ariel episode III or V or beyond. Speaking of
sequels, what's happening with Rhea Gall Force??
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 42. 11-12-89 1:25.35 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: David Mou
To: Dana Fong
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 32, 59.
then it's not a bad idea to have one oAnimag issue stuffed in a dark
plastic bag with a red bar across the cover saying <hands off, kids!> And
watch the circulation of Animag exceed 1 million within the month. It'll
become an instant classic across the Pacific.
or, back to the serious side, yeah. Do a feature on the more surreal kind
of videos (ie. Robot Carnival, 2001 Story, Angel's Egg, etc.) or things
with no plot but has plenty of artistic values. You can hire an English
professor to write an article to compare/contrast them with the more
popular genre of feature length animations. [there are enough English
students at Cal turning those kinds of papers each week, I'm sure I can
find one who has plenty of practice at it.] Ok, bad idea, I know. It's 3
a.m.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 43. 11-12-89 12:18.43 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Takayuki Karahashi
To: David Mou
Subject: THEN AGAIN
ALSO SEE: 40, 48.
The ARIEL video itself says "Episode 4," which may or may not be serious
(could be a stab at Star Wars). There's more Gall Force in the making.
Ask Dana, the Gall Force enlisteee.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 44. 11-12-89 13:11.18 (NO KILL)
From: Andrew Lison
To: Dana/taka/animag
Subject: A-KO
ALSO SEE: 49, 60.
Will ANIMAG be doing any more A-ko stuff?
Andy the "A-ko" Boy
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 45. 11-12-89 15:06.21 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Eamon Ho
To: David Mou
Subject: JV
ALSO SEE: 41, 54.
Sorry dave,I can't do that dave. Actually, the store sold out, even my
friend had to settle for normal prices (actually, we also discovered that
the store closed permanently after the sale) at a different sotre. I
think he said he paid about $500 for his unit, and hooked it up, with an
adapter, to his Nanao Flexscan (now, nobody monitors the BBS). If you
still think that's a good price (too high for me) I'll give him a call.
Note, that is for a MODEL 500 WI monitor, or adapter, or very much at
all, since he got some parts from work... But he shopped around, so it
might be good.
I'm still looking at the SVHS enviously, but I also need a printer to do
my work processing. I could get a cheap printer and the SVHS soon, or get
a Paintjet, and the SVHS by selling some of my RC equipment, and the
paintjet. Hard call.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 47. 11-13-89 1:37.53 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Larry Greenfield
To: Dana Fong
Subject: ANIMAG #9
ALSO SEE: 39, 58.
That's too bad to hear that Animag will be coming out less frequently
(quarterly), though I very much understand why.
If I may, I'm just curious. As an Animag reader, I wish always for your
continued success, but I'm just curious as to how Animag is doing
(Financally). No, I don't want a quarterly report, but is it at least
makinga small profit? Are sales up or down? (hopefully up
Larry
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 48. 11-13-89 3:15.26 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: David Mou
To: Takayuki Karahashi
Subject: THEN AGAIN
ALSO SEE: 43.
Gall force forever. I've made copies from my Rhea LD so many times I
think I can count the number of bullet holes from Buddie's body..
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 49. 11-13-89 11:25.23 (RECV'D)
From: Takayuki Karahashi
To: Andrew Lison
Subject: A-KO
ALSO SEE: 44.
Maybe. No comment.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 50. 11-13-89 12:35.02
From: Andy Louie
To: Animag
Subject: ARTICLES
ALSO SEE: 61.
DEAR ANIMAG WHICH GALL FORCE STORY ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IN YOUR LATEST
ISSSUE IS IT GOING TO BE NO.1-3 OR RHEA GALL FORCE. ARE YOU THINKING OF
PUTTING BGC6 IN IT ALSO. I WAS WONDERING WHY IN YOUR NEXT ISSUE ARE YOU
PUTTING IN VENUS WARS AND DOMINION YOU HAD ALREADY DONE THEM IN PAST
ISSUES ALREADY.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 51. 11-13-89 12:39.01
From: Andy Louie
To: Animag
Subject: ANIMATION
ALSO SEE: 62.
DEAR ANIMAG ARE YOU GOING TO DO ANY STORIES ON CRUSHER JOE?
]
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 58. 11-15-89 24:54.22 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Larry Greenfield
Subject: ANIMAG'S HEALTH
ALSO SEE: 47, 65.
Well, we are still fine financially more or less. We aren't making a
*huge* profit, but it's still enough to make it viable. I'd say sales are
generally up, but don't quote me on that. :-)
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 59. 11-15-89 1:57.41 (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: David Mou
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 42, 68.
Sure, sure, but if you keep them all in plastic bags how is our
circulation going to increase if no one is able to read the magazine? :-)
<<Dana>>
(p.s. No more Cal students please! ;-)
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 60. 11-15-89 1:59.36 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Andrew Lison
Subject: A-KO
ALSO SEE: 44, 63.
Besides a mention in the Animation Update section should another A-ko
video come out after A-ko 4, I kindof doubt it. What we wanted to say
about A-ko was pretty much covered in issue #5. I mean, the story's not
all *that* hard to understand, is it?
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 61. 11-15-89 2:03.06 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Andy Louie
Subject: ARTICLES
ALSO SEE: 50.
The Gall Force article in #9 will cover the first three videos (Eternal
Story, Destruction, Stardust War) only. Bubble Gum Crisis might show up
again in a future issue, but not this issue. Our coverage of Venus Wars
in #5 was a preview, not a full article (just like the Gundam movie). The
Dominion article will be on the second vol./eps., which has not been
covered yet.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 62. 11-15-89 2:11.19 (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Andy Louie
Subject: CRUSHER JOE STORY
ALSO SEE: 51.
There isn't any planned that I know of. For that matter there aren't any
"stories" that Animag is planning on doing. That is, if I'm understanding
you correctly.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 63. 11-15-89 8:20.33 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Andrew Lison
To: Dana Fong
Subject: A-KO
ALSO SEE: 60.
No. Not really.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 65. 11-15-89 18:13.10 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Larry Greenfield
To: Dana Fong
Subject: ANIMAG'S HEALTHK
ALSO SEE: 58.
Nice to hear. Don't let Forbes buy you out!
Larry
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 70. 11-17-89 3:21.05 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: David Mou
To: Dana Fong
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 69, 81.
but what would any editor-chief do for 3 million circulation. And with 2
chiefs you guys can beat Shonen Jump!!
I think the AnimeV's {you slice it with your pocket-knife} sections is pret
ty interesting, Animag could do the same.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 81. 11-20-89 23:12.42 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: David Mou
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 70, 83.
Sure, sure, and we can have our own Animag idol contest, and we'll give
away stuff that by the time people see, it's already too late to enter for,
and, and.....
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 82. 11-21-89 1:14.05 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: David Mou
To: Eamon Ho
Subject: HARDWARES
ALSO SEE: 79, 85.
CD is another story. Many CD's come and go between me and my friends. I
have now in my possession 13 CDs. One of them got returned to American
Express's purchase protection plan. It was honestly an accident, but that
gives me an idea. Buy a CD, tape it, then make a huge scratch on it and
return it to Amex. Of course they can't find another one to replace yours,
unless there's this anime expert in their staff, so they'll give you cash
refund...... hmm..... Pretty soon we'll have a Amex scratched CD garage
sale.
BTW if you wait another couple of years you'll be getting an LD changer.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 83. 11-21-89 1:19.24 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: David Mou
To: Dana Fong
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 81, 94.
idol contest, there's another idea. Who looks like Ataru Moroboshi the
most [sad case indeed] gets a Lum doll. And the late prizes. Just think,
we'll be getting even with Shonen Jump <with all their free Nintendo, LDs,
VCRs> whose contests are already over when we get our copies. Now if we
start giving away Batman movies...
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 94. 11-23-89 15:41.10 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: David Mou
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 83, 95, 113.
Actually, we're going to have an FSS giveaway in issue #9, but I'm pretty
sure they'll be no problem with people making the deadline.
<<Dana<<
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 95. 11-23-89 21:53.46 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Bruce Durocher
To: Dana Fong
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 94, 99, 102.
Will we be done with Zeta Gundam by then? I've reached the point when
it seems that the characters are all dancing on the heads of pins, waiting
for Bishop Berkely to fall...
Not that I have anything against a detailed synopsis, mind you. If
you ever get around to doing Orange Road, you can do it line by line...
In fact, if you need help, let me know! I can't speak Japanese, but there
might be something else that would help...
By the way--is there any chance in the near future ofAnimag doing
another poll? I can think of several possibilities, some of which can be
used without the vice squad impounding the magazine...
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 99. 11-26-89 9:53.24 (RECV'D)
From: David Chiu
To: Bruce Durocher
Subject: ZETA G ETC
ALSO SEE: 95, 100.
Don't worry, by the end of the TV series, it is easier to count how hasn't
die than those who did. (ie. quite a few of characters died)... and Kamiyu
goes banana.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 100. 11-26-89 11:06.12 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Bruce Durocher
To: David Chiu
Subject: DOUBLE ZETA G
ALSO SEE: 99, 124.
I had heard the explanation that ZZ was his hallucinations from coma,
but I gather that this is a minority view...
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 102. 11-26-89 13:14.19 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Bruce Durocher
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 95, 107.
Well, issue #10 will have the last installment of the Zeta Gundam
synopses. They'll be the last of the multi-part detailed synopsis-type
articles for the magazine. We'll probably eventually get around to doing
an article on Orange Road, but it'll most likely be something similiar to
the articles on City Hunter or Zillion.
Hmmm...another poll might be useful, but we need to figure out a better
way to compile the data methinks.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 127. 12-02-89 18:53.19
From: Jim Reyer
To: All
Subject: ANIMAG SUBSCRIPTION PROBLEM
ALSO SEE: 136.
ANYONE KNOW HOW TO HANDLE SUBSCRIPTION PROBLEMS?
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 128. 12-02-89 22:27.37 (NO KILL)
From: Dave Croyle
To: All
Subject: ANIMAG #9
ALSO SEE: 137.
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE @#$%&*!!!! IS GOING TO BE IN ANIMAG #9, OR WHEN
IT'S DUE OUT?
Thanks Muchly, -DC
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 130. 12-03-89 24:35.51 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: David Mou
To: Dana Fong
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 116, 131, 138.
quote Dana, Quote Dana!! Live from Hollywood it's Animag's
"Jeopardy-da-cha!"
today's daily double question is "which room does Godai live in."
ok, this is kind of easy.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 131. 12-03-89 9:59.26 (RECV'D)
From: David Chiu
To: David Mou
Subject: TRIVIA?
ALSO SEE: 130, 155.
Hint: What does Go mean?
Better: What is the name of the guy that lives in room 2? (Not in
TV series)
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 132. 12-03-89 14:28.43 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Bruce Durocher
To: David Chiu
Subject: DOUBLE ZETA G HALLUCINATION.
ALSO SEE: 124.
Clearly you aren't a Twilight Zone (the original) fan. They dealt
with this sort of thing in the episode about the gent who has a deadly
dream haunting him...
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 136. 12-06-89 1:07.12 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Jim Reyer
Subject: ANIMAG SUBSCRIPTION PROBLEM
ALSO SEE: 127, 152.
What kind of problems are you having? We (the staff) don't handle
subscriptions, but rather, our publisher Pacific Rim Publishing does.
The address to write to is:
P.O. Box 23651
Oakland, CA 94623
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 137. 12-06-89 1:09.37 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Dave Croyle
Subject: ANIMAG #9
ALSO SEE: 128, 140.
(growing impatient already?)
Animag #9 will have a fairly extensive article on Miyazaki and his works,
as well as articles on Dominion pt. II, Z Gundam (synopses), & Venus Wars.
In addition, there will be a full-color calendar insert for next year.
The issue should be out before the end of this month.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 138. 12-06-89 1:14.19 (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: David Mou
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 130, 156.
(Hey, isn't it the *answer* that's supposed to be posed as a question..:-)
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 141. 12-08-89 24:04.24 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Larry Greenfield
To: Dana Fong
Subject: ANIMAG
ALSO SEE: 143.
Hope you haven't left yet... when are you going? Bon Voyage, and have a
nice time! (If you get a chance, try to check out that Itabashi-ku place,
ok? I was told that the Yamatocho one will be more convient---
Taihei House No.1: 23-2 Yamatocho, Itabashi-ku, Tokyo.
If you get a chance. If not, no biggie...
How extensive is 'Extensive' with regards to the Miyazaki thing in #9?
What will it cover?
Have a good trip!
Larry
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 142. 12-08-89 1:24.35 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Dave Croyle
Subject: ANIMAG #9
ALSO SEE: 140, 144.
Actually, this issue's cover (of Venus Wars) was done by an artist in
Japan. From what I remember it didn't come without a considerable price
though....we've been saving it until the time came when we would do an
article on Venus Wars.
BTW, after this issue we're planning on going back to a quarterly schedule,
so don't be too impatient if you don't see another issue in February.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 143. 12-08-89 1:28.21 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Larry Greenfield
Subject: ANIMAG
ALSO SEE: 141.
By extensive I mean it covers all of Miyazaki's major works (movies) as
well as some interesting background info. Actually, I haven't read the
entire article so I'm not sure *exactly* what it covers, but I remember it
had some nice use of scanned background art in the layout.
<<Dana>>
MSg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 144. 12-08-89 10:52.26 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dave Croyle
To: Dana Fong
Subject: ANIMAG #9
ALSO SEE: 142.
Impatient? Moi? Never...........Looking foward to #9, and then #10. If
there,s anything I can do to help with Animag, let me know as I'd be more
than happy to support it any way I can.
DC
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 145. 12-08-89 18:40.50 (RECV'D)
From: Andy Louie
To: Dana Fong
Subject: ANIMAG'S COVER
ALSO SEE: 149.
Dear Dana who did the artwork for the cover of Animag issue 8 it looks
awesome. Do you guys need anymore cover artists!!!!!!!!!!!!
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 146. 12-10-89 7:27.52 (RECV'D)
From: David Taddesse
To: Dana Fong
Subject: ANIMAG #9 CONTENTS?
ALSO SEE: 150.
WHAT SUBJECTS AND ANIMATED CARTOONS WILL BE DISCUSSED IN #9?
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 147. 12-10-89 20:23.06
From: Jonathan Roy
To: All
Subject: ANIMAG #7?
ALSO SEE: 151, 153.
What hapened to Animag #7? None of thecomic stores in my area got it
although they got number 8. Did something happen that caused it to miss
the distributors (Comics) orsomething? ANyways, how can I go about
ordering one directly from you? And what number older issues do you
still have on sale? Later on....
/s
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 148. 12-10-89 22:26.15 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Larry Greenfield
To: Takayuki Karahashi
Subject: ANIMAG
How has Animag been treated by the Japanese anime publishers, animators,
companies,etc....? Do they know you exist? What do they think of you? The
idea?
Larry
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 149. 12-10-89 23:44.09 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Andy Louie
Subject: ANIMAG'S COVER
ALSO SEE: 145.
It was credited in the issue, wasn't it? The cover of the Dirty Pair was
done by Lela Dowling. We're always looking for good artists who are
dependable enough to do artwork. Did you have someone in mind?
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 150. 12-10-89 23:47.09 (NO KILL)
From: Dana Fong
To: David Taddesse
Subject: ANIMAG #9 CONTENTS?
ALSO SEE: 146, 169.
I think I've stated that here a little while back, but I'll reiterate
anyways. From memory #9 will have: article on Miyazaki and his works,
Venus Wars, Dominion part II, Z Gundam synopses...I can't seem to remember
if there was anything else. The Miyazaki article took up a good chunk of
the issue, as well as more ads, so we've had to cut down on different
topics this time. It should be out within a few weeks, so....
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 151. 12-11-89 24:47.04 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Jonathan Roy
Subject: ANIMAG #7?
ALSO SEE: 147.
Animag #7? It came out back in....August I believe. It's a possibility
your comic store's distributor didn't have enough copies or wasn't able to
get any for #7. Our publisher has a policy of not having backlogs of
issues so he only prints up as many as there are orders for. If an order
comes after the issue's published the order might not get filled. Anyways,
you might be able to get one through Pacific Rim, but I'm not sure if
they still have any left, so you might want to check with them. Their
address is the same as our subscription address. Address your inquiry
either to "Animag" or to "Pacific Rim Publishing".
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 152. 12-12-89 16:50.48 (RECV'D)
From: Jim Reyer
To: Dana Fong
Subject: ANIMAG SUBSCRIPTION PROBLEM
ALSO SEE: 136, 154.
Thanks for the info. Just for the record, I have become a new subscriber.
The first issue I received was number 8; but the mailing label said my
subscription expires with issue #12. Only 5 issues instead of 6! That's
my problem in a nutshell.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 153. 12-15-89 22:17.36 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Dave Croyle
To: Jonathan Roy
Subject: ANIMAG #7?
ALSO SEE: 147, 168.
If no on ever got info to you, you can get animag #7 thru my store. Let me
know via this board if you're interested, -DC
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 154. 12-18-89 1:52.13
From: Dana Fong
To: Jim Reyer
Subject: ANIMAG SUBSCRIPTION PROBLEM
ALSO SEE: 152.
Well, your problem seems pretty straightforward so I don't imagine you
should have any problem explaining it to the publisher.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 155. 12-19-89 20:55.02 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: David Mou
To: David Chiu
Subject: ANSWER.
ALSO SEE: 131, 161.
I know, I know (bell buzz, light flash)
#1: five
#2: Nikaido
do you know that Capricon has an anime?? I saw a soundtrack for it at
LazerPerception. I was so out of touch for a while that news did scared
me. (not for the anime, but about me being out of touch.)
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 156. 12-19-89 20:58.14 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: David Mou
To: Dana Fong
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 138, 159.
Ok, here's a catagory.
"Horny Princess"
the answer is
"she flys and does not catch cold." $100
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 158. 12-19-89 21:07.34
From: Eamon Ho
To: David Mou
Subject: EVOLVED ANIME
ALSO SEE: 157.
Ah, so you enter the plot, input the character designs, and let it go
crzay, designing mecha, backgrounds, laws of phisics (as they are often
different) and then figure how everything would work!
A novel idea, is that what you're majoring in? Anime Physics? I always
thought the people could set long-jump records if they went to the
Olympics...
/s
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 159. 12-21-89 24:53.09
From: Dana Fong
To: David Mou
Subject: SUGGESTION
ALSO SEE: 156.
Hey, this doesn't have anything to do with the age-old debate about
whether a certain princess is wearing any pants or not, does it?
"Who is Nausicaa?" (^o-)
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 160. 12-23-89 24:30.37
From: Andy Louie
To: Animag Or All
Subject: ANIMAG
ALSO SEE: 162.
Dear Animag what Japanese animation are you going to be writing about in
your next issue no. 9
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 161. 12-23-89 2:16.56
From: David Chiu
To: David Mou
Subject: CAPRICON...
ALSO SEE: 155.
does *NOT* have an animate... if it exists, I would have read something
about it in varies video magazines. That is suppose to be some sort of
image album... the same stuff for B-Type alliance (ran in NewType a while
back) Kind of like what Nagano did with Five Star image albums (water
dragon etc).. nope nope nope. No video for Capricon (yet?)
Does LA East culture center (book store) has anything new? (like maybe
bootleg of more recent Ranma?)
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 162. 12-24-89 1:50.12 (RECV'D)
From: Dana Fong
To: Andy Louie
Subject: ANIMAG #9
ALSO SEE: 160.
The works of Miyazaki, Dominion act II, Z Gundam synopses, Venus Wars.
<<Dana>>
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 163. 12-30-89 19:27.08 (NO KILL)
From: Andrew Lison
To: Animag
Subject: GUNDAM
ALSO SEE: 164.
After the synopses of Z Gundam is Animag planning to also do synopses to
(oops) of Gundam ZZ? Also, how many episodes of Z Gundam are there??
Andy the "Gundam" Boy
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 164. 12-31-89 11:23.20 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Bruce Durocher
To: Andrew Lison
Subject: GUNDAM
ALSO SEE: 163, 165.
Far more episodes than I would have dreamed of before the synopses
began to run in Animag...
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 165. 12-31-89 15:00.36 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Andrew Lison
To: Bruce Durocher
Subject: GUNDAM
ALSO SEE: 164, 171.
Yeah, I know what you mean. How long can it go on?????????????????????
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 166. 12-31-89 22:16.19 (RECV'D)
From: David Chiu
To: Andrew Lison
Subject: Z-G
oh... it only ran for 50 episodes (1 year)... *ALOT* shorter than Urusei
Yatsura TV series (ran for something like 200 plus episodes)... Can you
imagine what would happen if Animag tries to do UY TV series!? (Be reading
the stuff forever)... scary thought.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 167. 1-01-90 11:44.40 (NO KILL)
From: Aaron Lea
To: All
Subject: ANIMAG 9
Has the newest issue of Animag (with Gundam 0080, Dominion, and the
caledar) come out yet?
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 168. 1-01-90 19:26.15 (RECV'D)
From: Jonathan Roy
To: Dave Croyle
Subject: ANIMAG #7?
ALSO SEE: 153, 170.
Ok, send me some mail with the store name/number or whatever, and I can
send yu a moneu order for the issue+shipping.
/s
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 169. 1-01-90 19:37.34 (RECV'D)
From: Jonathan Roy
To: Dana Fong
Subject: ANIMAG #9 CONTENTS?
ALSO SEE: 150, 172, 176.
I read amessage somwhere (Maybe in Animag) that either Streamline
Pictures (YEAH!) or Harmony Gold (BOO!) had bought the rights to make
an english translation of Lensmen or Venus Wars...Any info on the
English version of either? And is Streamline Pictures' Akira (ENGLISH)
completed/on sale yet?? Actully, this message is addressed to anyone
who knows!
/s
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 170. 1-03-90 24:00.00 (NO KILL)
From: Dave Croyle
To: Jonathan Roy
Subject: ANIMAG #7?
ALSO SEE: 168.
Wow, after the holiday season I hope there's still some left! THE STORE
ADDRESS IS : Games and Things, 2405 Larkspur Landing Circle, Larkspur, CA
94939...Postage will depend on where you are, so I'll make sure we have
one and put it aside for you, and get back to me with your address.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 172. 1-04-90 1:10.09 (NO KILL)
From: Larry Greenfield
To: Jonathan Roy
Subject: AKIRA
ALSO SEE: 169.
Akira English will not be out on videocassette -- I'm guessing not at all,
but don't know for sure.. at any rate, at least not now.. they're still
releaseing it in the theatres here in English... call Jerry Beck at
Streamline Pictures in Hollywood (lost his business card... but just call
information)
Larry
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 173. 1-04-90 19:01.41
From: Jeff Thompson
To: All
Subject: AKIRA
ALSO SEE: 174, 175.
In the event that you're on the East Coast and interested, AKIRA is
currently playing in English in the Washington DC area. I (and a few other
East-Coast fans) are planning to go see it before it closes 13/1/90. Since
I'm sure that it's playing in other areas of the country as well, I'd say
to check the papers, call the police, and KEEP WATCHING THE SKIES!!!
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 174. 1-04-90 21:59.14 (RECV'D)
From: James Dunson
To: Jeff Thompson
Subject: AKIRA
ALSO SEE: 173.
Re your message about seeing English AKIRA in DC: several of us
Blacksburg, VA anime fans are going to be in DC this weekend for EveCon;
if any of you are there, and decide to go, leave a note on the message
board, or better yet, post something in the anime room. Although I am not
exactly an unbiased opinion, the anime room schedule looks pretty hot,
with a fair amount of newish stuff, most either on or just off of LD.
Times will be I think 10 am to 2 am, in one of the function rooms.
** James **
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 175. 1-06-90 13:49.39 (RECV'D)
From: David Chiu
To: Jeff Thompson
Subject: AKIRA
ALSO SEE: 173.
The general impression people I know had, about Akira dubbed over to
English (they saw it at San Diego Con) can be best summed up as the
following; IT SUCKS. I haven't seen it, but when seven of my friends says
the same thing about it, I imagine it is... well, not pretty.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 176. 1-06-90 17:09.55
From: Terry Yeung
To: Jonathan Roy
Subject: LENSMEN
ALSO SEE: 169.
I have heard and am pretty sure that Harmony Gold did have the rights to
Lensmen. Whether or not they still have it now I don't know but I did see
a short clip of an English dubbed part of Lensmen. Since I don't know the
story of the original Lensmen I don't know what they did to it. This was
a while ago.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 177. 1-11-90 22:19.32
From: Rich Kao
To: All
Subject: TRANSLATIONS
ALSO SEE: 180.
Does anyone know if any of the newly translated stuff will be released on
viedo? I was taliking to Robert Fenlon (sp) editor of Animezine and he
said they are working with a company that plans to market some anime on
video translated.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 178. 1-13-90 2:38.39
From: Douglas Orlowski
To: All
Subject: FILM CLIPS
I'm still looking to get my film clips from Adieu G. E. 999 back from
whomever has them. The Harlock issue was some time ago folks and the clips
were only on loan to you. I need them for my own zine. Thanks.
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 179. 1-15-90 12:38.02
From: Andy Louie
To: Animag
Subject: ANIMATION
Will you be doing any stories on Gunbuster?
Will there be any future stories on BGC STORIES?
Will you still have the section about the update on new Japanese video?
Are you going to do any articles on Vampire Princess Miyu and Hunter D?
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 180. 1-18-90 1:54.50 (NO KILL)
From: Hiroshi Nishimura
To: Rich Kao
Subject: TRANSLATIONS
ALSO SEE: 177, 181.
I've seen a number of translated Japanimations and they SUCK!!! The
characters sound nothing like the original. Simply put, the characters
lose their character!
-Hiroshi-
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 181. 1-18-90 10:13.09 (RECV'D)
From: David Chiu
To: Hiroshi Nishimura
Subject: TRANSLATIONS
ALSO SEE: 180, 182.
Animation are best left alone (aside from been subtitled) I hate to repeat
myself, but alas, most of animation dubbed over to English sounded like
cheap mid-night kun-fu movies!
Msg Base: #6 - Animag
Msg No: 182. 1-18-90 12:11.29 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Ed Rishel
To: David Chiu
Subject: TRANSLATIONS
ALSO SEE: 181.
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