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Suolon Hu

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Jul 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/11/95
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Hi folks,
Just saw Macross Plus (first episode) and was just wondering how
many episodes in total are there? and also is this series the most
recent in the Robotech/Macross Saga? Finally, what is Macross 7 all
about? and where does it take place (in terms of the timeline... well
thanks for your time....

Regards,
Suolon Hu
"Please email me at suol...@nt.com"

Freddy Chan

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Jul 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/11/95
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Suolon Hu (suol...@nt.com) wrote:
: Hi folks,

: Just saw Macross Plus (first episode) and was just wondering how
: many episodes in total are there? and also is this series the most
: recent in the Robotech/Macross Saga? Finally, what is Macross 7 all
: about? and where does it take place (in terms of the timeline... well
: thanks for your time....

There are four episodes for Macross Plus totally. Macross 7 is a
current TV anime series, it is the latest one and is about 30
years after the original TV series.

Freddy

Chi-Chih Helen Tao

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Jul 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/13/95
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>years after the original TV series.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Freddy

Do you mean 13 years?


Peter L. Ward

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Jul 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/14/95
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In article <3u43of$n...@netnews.upenn.edu> taoc@graphics (Chi-Chih Helen Tao) writes:
>From: taoc@graphics (Chi-Chih Helen Tao)
>Subject: Re: MACROSS PLUS!!! (Need Help!)
>Date: 13 Jul 1995 21:38:22 GMT

Timeline-wise, he's right. The original Macross took place around 2009-2010
or so. Macross Plus takes place in 2040. In fact, in episode 3 & 4 of Mac+,
the 30th anniversary of Macross is taking place. Macross 7 is set 3 years
later, in 2043. That would make it 33 years after the original Macross series.


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Suolon Hu (suol...@nt.com) wrote:
: Hi folks,
: Just saw Macross Plus (first episode) and was just wondering how
: many episodes in total are there? and also is this series the most
: recent in the Robotech/Macross Saga? Finally, what is Macross 7 all
: about? and where does it take place (in terms of the timeline... well
: thanks for your time....

: Regards,


: Suolon Hu
: "Please email me at suol...@nt.com"

I am also interested in the Macross Saga,
please email to c951...@faceng.newcastle.edu.aus

greatly appreciated,
John.

Ray Anthony Nagar

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Jul 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/19/95
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Suolon Hu (suol...@nt.com) wrote:

: Hi folks, Just saw Macross Plus (first episode) and was just wondering
how : many episodes in total are there? and also is this series the most :
recent in the Robotech/Macross Saga? Finally, what is Macross 7 all :
about? and where does it take place (in terms of the timeline... well :
thanks for your time....

--
Macross Plus is one of two series that is currently on the
Robotech/Macross Saga.... Actually, it follows the Macross series in
Japan more than it follows the Robotech series. Macross 7 is the new TV
series based on the characters from the original Macross TV series.
Macross Plus is 4 episodes long, with the final episode releasing just
recently. Macross 7 is still being made, but there are currently 16
episodes that can be readily purchased or rented at your local Japanese
Animation/Japanese Video store. Macross Plus takes place in the Year
2040 on a distant planet called Eden (After the 'SDF-2' colonizes a new
planet), while Macross 7 takes place in space somewhere in the year 2045.

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shirley lee

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Suolon Hu

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In response to...

--
Macross Plus is one of two series that is currently on the
Robotech/Macross Saga.... Actually, it follows the Macross series in
Japan more than it follows the Robotech series. Macross 7 is the new TV
series based on the characters from the original Macross TV series.
Macross Plus is 4 episodes long, with the final episode releasing just
recently. Macross 7 is still being made, but there are currently 16
episodes that can be readily purchased or rented at your local Japanese
Animation/Japanese Video store. Macross Plus takes place in the Year
2040 on a distant planet called Eden (After the 'SDF-2' colonizes a new
planet), while Macross 7 takes place in space somewhere in the year
2045.
--------------

So what is the difference between the Japan Macross series and the
Robotech series? I didn't think there was a difference...

Suolon Hu

Suolon Hu

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Keith Rhee

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rafn...@sfsu.edu (Ray Anthony Nagar) writes:

>(After the 'SDF-2' colonizes a new planet)...

Can someone confirm this? I thought the SDF-2 was a Robotech
invention?

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Steve Pearl

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qua...@netcom.com (Keith Rhee) writes:

>rafn...@sfsu.edu (Ray Anthony Nagar) writes:

>>(After the 'SDF-2' colonizes a new planet)...

> Can someone confirm this? I thought the SDF-2 was a Robotech
> invention?

Well, the SDF-2 (or Megaroad) was being built on the moon in the Macross
continuity and so was not destroyed by Kamjin's attack on the SDF-1
(neither was the SDF-1 according to Macross Plus)


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Haro-chan

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Jul 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/26/95
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In article <falcon.17...@best.com>,

Peter L. Ward <fal...@best.com> wrote:
>Timeline-wise, he's right. The original Macross took place around 2009-2010
>or so. Macross Plus takes place in 2040. In fact, in episode 3 & 4 of Mac+,
>the 30th anniversary of Macross is taking place. Macross 7 is set 3 years
>later, in 2043. That would make it 33 years after the original Macross series.

Insert "5-6 years," "2045-2046," and "35 years," in the last two
sentences, and that should be about right. =)
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Haro-chan

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In article <3unrbo$n...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, TAVICAT <tav...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>Well, the SDF-2 (or Megaroad) was being built on the moon in the Macross
>continuity and so was not destroyed by Kamjin's attack on the
>SDF-1(neither was the SDF-1 according to Macross Plus)<<
>
>Well, the translations I've read from Newtype explain that main Macross
>producer, Shoji Kowamori has re-aranged the Macross timeline as follows:

Shouji Kawamori is a mecha designer maestro, a director on occasion, a
on-and-off storyboarder, and even a decent story creator and scripter,
but never a producer. He may have a wonderful sense of timing when it
comes to plotting scenes to music, but his adherence to production
schedules leaves his companies wanting. =)

http://server.berkeley.edu/~eganloo/Macross/1.Production/ProductionTitle.html

He didn't really rearrange the timeline, as there was no cohesive
arrangement to begin with. =) There was none ever since the movie
retold a version of Space War I that contradicted the TV series.

>1999-2009 Macross tv series (ends after Zentradi fleet destroyed - so the
>SDF-1 was never rammed by Kamujin)

The Macross was rammed by Kamjin in 2012, but it was rebuilt since it
substained damage mainly to the starboard sections only.

>2012 "Flashback 2012". Lynn Minmie's farewell concert

Well, interesting Romanization. =)

>Outside Story
>2009 Reconstruction. The events told in Macross series after
>'Macross tv series' are listed as to have "Not Happend" - meaning
>everything after the SDF-1 destroyed the Zen fleet in the series, Shoji
>Kowamori has cut from the timeline.

Not true. =) This was not written as an "outside story" in that October 1994
Newtype timeline nor in the releases written elsewhere. In fact, that
Newtype timeline specifically includes events that occured after the
destruction of Bodolzaa's fleet (a Zentradi fleet, not the Zentradi fleet)
such as the Minmay hostage crisis, the factory satellite capture, and
the (First) Battle of Macross City. Kawamori has not cut this portion
from the timeline he uses.

>Paralel Story
>2080 Macross II - meaning this didn't happen either. Bummer. I liked the
>Valkyrie II.

It does not say 2080 in the Japanese timelines, only that it occurred
"approximately 80 years after" the events of Space War I. The 2080 date is a
extrapolation.

>As to the SDF-2 thing. The new Kowamori timeline lists two classes of
>ships: the Megaroad class seen in Flashback 2012, and the original Macross
>class. Now, wheather or not the SDF-2 was a Macross or Megaroad class, I
>don't know.

It lists at least three: the original Macross class, the Megaroad class,
and the New Macross class. There are also close-range ships which
carry out the bulk of the missions to the nearby colonies. The SDF-2 was
originally the second Macross class ship which was 80% completed before
the end of Space War I. After construction resumed, it was named
Megaroad, the mission role was changed, and it became the first ship of
its own self-named class, the Megaroad class.

http://server.berkeley.edu/~eganloo/Macross/2.Story/Chronology/2010.2046.html

Alexander Chan

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What are you guys saying? That on tiop of the Macross series on TV, a
Macross MOVIE.. , The flashbach.. And Another japanese movie MAcross II
there is also a new one called Macross PLUS? PLEAS REPLY!!


Keith Rhee

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cha...@sfu.ca (Alexander Chan) writes:

*Keith rubs his ringing ears and wonders what it is about newbies.
Perhaps they think shouting will draw attention to them.

*Alex, let it be said that shouting in said manner draws *negative*
attention. Please be a bit more polite next time. =)

Once upon a time, there was Macross the TV series. Later, they decided
to make a theatrical release based on the story. The movie is a heavily
condensed version of the TV story.

Flashback 2012 is Minmei's farewell concert in the year 2021 when
the Megaroad, a long-distance colonization ship, departs Earth. It
was released on video.

Later, they made a sequel to the movie, called Macross II, set 80
years after the events of Space War 1 (movie). It was a 6 volume
video release, not a movie. The series met with a lackluster
response; the plot wasn't very engaging.

Clear so far?

After Macross II flopped, the people at Bandai Co. decided to produce
2 more stories, following the TV timeline events rather than following
the movie timeline. By pushing Macross II to form an "Alternate
Universe," the producers get another shot at producing a sequel.

The first is Macross Plus, which takes place in 2040. The second is
Macross 7, which takes place in 2045-46.

Hope this clarifies things.

Haro-chan

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In article <3ujqjl$9...@news.csus.edu>,

Ray Anthony Nagar <rafn...@sfsu.edu> wrote:
>Animation/Japanese Video store. Macross Plus takes place in the Year
>2040 on a distant planet called Eden (After the 'SDF-2' colonizes a new
>planet), while Macross 7 takes place in space somewhere in the year 2045.

Eden was colonized by close-range colonization ships, not by a
long-distance colonization ship such as the Megaroad-01. Both types of
ships were part of the two-prong space colonization project developed
after Space War I.

Yan Yung

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Jul 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/26/95
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Hi,

just a question: is Macross the same as Robotech?

City Hunter

Jason C. Bustard

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Yan Yung (t2f...@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca) wrote:

: Hi,

: just a question: is Macross the same as Robotech?

: City Hunter

No.....ok, let me be more clear....*NO*<grin>

Really though, robotech as far as I know was a *purely* North American
venture. It was *based* on a japanese TV series called Super Dimensional
Fortress: Macross. Most of the names were changed(ie Hikaru to Rick,
Misa to Lisa, etc) as were the names of the mecha(Veritechs<U.S.>,
Valkeries<Japan>). I am a big fan of the american series, but
unfortunately I have only seen the surberbly crappy chop&dub of the movie
Macross: Do You Remember Love(titled 'Clash of the Bionoids' in the
U.S.), but I have seen the Japanese language manga adaptation of the
movie and have heard good things about the TV series. Perhaps someone
would be kind enough to respond to this message and explain things a
little better and correct any errors I've made, in any case, I hope I helped.
Jason Bustard H).
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"<Thinking> More like turkeys being led by a goose..."-Marie Crystal
from Robotech: Southern Cross
>
H).


Ming the Merciless

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In article <3v5up6$r...@seymour.sfu.ca>, cha...@sfu.ca says...

>
>What are you guys saying? That on tiop of the Macross series on TV, a
>Macross MOVIE.. , The flashbach.. And Another japanese movie MAcross II
>there is also a new one called Macross PLUS? PLEAS REPLY!!
>
Macross time line as I recall..

Japan US
============ ========
Macross TV Robotech
Flash Back
Movie: Do you remember love.
Movie II: Lovers again
The Sentinels
Macross 7 TV series.
Macross Plus OVA series Macross Plus OVA dubbed 1-3?

Tak Woo

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Jul 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/27/95
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In article <3v6bg9...@keats.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>,

Yan Yung <t2f...@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> wrote:
>
>just a question: is Macross the same as Robotech?
>

I think Macross is one part of Robotech, since Robotech has many parts.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Keith Rhee

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t2f...@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca ( Yan Yung) writes:

>just a question: is Macross the same as Robotech?

No. =)

"Robotech" was a Harmony gold production that combined the following
3 TV series into one story: Super Dimensional Fortress Macross (1st
season of Robotech), Super Dimensional Cavalry Southern Cross (2nd
season), and Genesis Climber Mospeada (3rd season). The three series,
which have no correlation to each other whatsoever, was brought to
the USA; their plots were adapted to make them look like a single
story.

And thus Robotech was born on USA TV.

In Japan, Southern Cross and Mospeada don't seem to have been nearly
as popular as Macross, which has seen a movie release and several
sequels. After the Macross TV series, a movie version was shown in
1984. A video-only sequel, Macross II, was made several years ago,
which unfortunately flopped. After pushing off Macross II to form
an "alternate universe" story, 2 sequels following the TV timeline
were made, namely Macross Plus (AD 2040) and Macross 7 (AD 2045-46).

It is my understanding that a recent article in "Wired" has given
many people the misconception that Macross Plus is a new show in the
Robotech series. The explanation of how Robotech was created,
detailed above, should hopefully help clear this. And if someone
tries to tell you that Macross = Robotech, do fandom a favor and
shoot him. =)

Profess'nal Agitator

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I have no idea where this came from, so I'm reluctantly keeping the
crosspost. Note, Follow-ups, though.

In article <quattroD...@netcom.com>, Keith Rhee <qua...@netcom.com> wrote:
>rafn...@sfsu.edu (Ray Anthony Nagar) writes:
>>(After the 'SDF-2' colonizes a new planet)...

> Can someone confirm this? I thought the SDF-2 was a Robotech
> invention?

Sounds like the SDF Megalord which has sometimes been called the SDF-2.

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Alexander Chan <cha...@sfu.ca> writes:

>What are you guys saying? That on tiop of the Macross series on TV, a
>Macross MOVIE.. , The flashbach.. And Another japanese movie MAcross II
>there is also a new one called Macross PLUS? PLEAS REPLY!!
>

Yes, there's a new OVA series that just wrapped up called
"Macross Plus", as well as a TV series running in Japan called Macross
7. Mac + is spectacular but short, Mac 7 is goofy but appealing
(and has a great soundtrack) with characters (Max, Milia, Exedore)
from the original Macross series.

- Neil

Gilles Poitras

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In article <3v72bh$o...@mars.cnct.com>, mi...@cnct.com (Ming the Merciless) wrote:

>Japan US
>============ ========

>Macross Plus OVA series Macross Plus OVA dubbed 1-3?

Actually you can get Macross Plus subbed or dubbed (I recommend the
Subtitled version, as the acting in the dub fails in the emotional scenes)

Peale Chuang

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Dear City Hunter,
Macross is the original Japanese name for the first-generation
Robotech that is popular in the USA and UK today... The Term Robotech is
usually used to represent the English-fied version of the famous Japanese
Anime, while MACROSS is used to represent the Japanese version, which is
quite different in story-line and images.... though the characters are
basically the same (Rick, Lisa, Maximillian, etc..)
BTW, this group is probably not the right place to post your
question... you'd do better at:
alt.binaries.pictures.anime

or a variety of WWW sites...
My two cents
SQUIRREL

On 26 Jul 1995, Yan Yung wrote:

>
> Hi,


>
> just a question: is Macross the same as Robotech?
>

> City Hunter
>
>

Jackie Tam

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Jul 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/31/95
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Keith Rhee (qua...@netcom.com) wrote:
: t2f...@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca ( Yan Yung) writes:

: >just a question: is Macross the same as Robotech?

: No. =)

Hasan Long

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Jul 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/31/95
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In article <quattroD...@netcom.com>, qua...@netcom.com (Keith Rhee)
wrote:

> t2f...@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca ( Yan Yung) writes:
>
> >just a question: is Macross the same as Robotech?
>
> No. =)
>
> "Robotech" was a Harmony gold production that combined the following
> 3 TV series into one story: Super Dimensional Fortress Macross (1st
> season of Robotech), Super Dimensional Cavalry Southern Cross (2nd
> season), and Genesis Climber Mospeada (3rd season). The three series,
> which have no correlation to each other whatsoever, was brought to
> the USA; their plots were adapted to make them look like a single
> story.
>

Does anyone know where to find more inforation about the plot and story
line of Super Dimensional Cavalry Southern Cross and Genesis Climber
Mospeada. Hopefully on or through the web.

Thanks.

Hasan K. Long


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Profess'nal Agitator

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Arrrggggh! another crosspost on steroids!

Follow-ups to r.a.a.

In article <hlong-31079...@userrm13.mac.trincoll.edu>, Hasan Long <hl...@mail.trincoll.edu> wrote:
>Does anyone know where to find more inforation about the plot and story
>line of Super Dimensional Cavalry Southern Cross and Genesis Climber
>Mospeada. Hopefully on or through the web.

Don't forget that Streamline is releasing subbed versions of the
originals as part of their ROBOTECH Perfect Collection series. You
get two subbed eps of the original followed by two eps of the
(roughly) corresponding ROBOTECH ep.

As for original plots, SDF Southern Cross is the plotline which is
least adhered to when it became the ROBOTECH Masters segment.
Mospeada, I contend, on the other hand, is the most faithful of the
three. It's a band of freedom fighters in the original, too. The
main difference, of course, is that there is no SDF-3; all the
expeditionary forces come from Mars (hence, all the Mars Base insignia
on the cyclones).

Hope this helps,

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ch>From: cha...@sfu.ca (Alexander Chan)
ch>Date: 26 Jul 1995 17:41:58 GMT
ch>@Organization: Simon Fraser University

ch>What are you guys saying? That on tiop of the Macross series on TV, a
ch>Macross MOVIE.. , The flashbach.. And Another japanese movie MAcross II
ch>there is also a new one called Macross PLUS? PLEAS REPLY!!

Did someone forget to mention the TV series Macross 7 ?...

Lloyd Carter


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mi...@cnct.com (Ming the Merciless) wrote:

>In article <3v5up6$r...@seymour.sfu.ca>, cha...@sfu.ca says...
>>

>>What are you guys saying? That on tiop of the Macross series on TV, a

>>Macross MOVIE.. , The flashbach.. And Another japanese movie MAcross II

>>there is also a new one called Macross PLUS? PLEAS REPLY!!
>>

>Macross time line as I recall..

I'll just correct this a little.

>Japan US
>============ ========


>Macross TV Robotech
>Flash Back
>Movie: Do you remember love.

This is supposed to be a movie
about the Macross generation.

>Movie II: Lovers again
This is known as Macross II
This is supposed to be on
an alternate timeline and does
not follow the original timeline.

> The Sentinels
This series is supposed to take place
right after the Macross generation and spans to
the New Generation (Mospeda)

>Macross 7 TV series.

>Macross Plus OVA series Macross Plus OVA dubbed 1-3?

Macross Plus OVA does not follow the Robotech
timeline, therefore it should not be included in the Robotech
list.

Hope these corrections help!


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Suolon Hu (suol...@nt.com) wrote:

: So what is the difference between the Japan Macross series and the

: Robotech series? I didn't think there was a difference...

Hello Suolon,

There is a big difference.

The Robotech series is a EDITED verion of the Japan Macross
series. The story background is changed a lot.....
Parts of the Robotech series is added by cutting others
cartoons...
I watched the Japan Macross series about ten years ago and
watched the Robotech series a years about..
The Robotech series is actually rubbish......

Mak koon hung...
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Sep 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/3/95
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Jubei <kaki...@aol.com> wrote:

>..... Correction, Robotech is a BUTCHERED version......
>
> .............
> The original Macross RULES!!!!! Not the Robotech hack.
>
>

Well said. I couldn't agree more.
But then again, every one should have their own right to
choose what they prefer, no matter how much you or me disapprove of
it. That much we should respect.
Maybe someone really ought to post a few thousand line long
article here to list out all the difference between Macross and Robotech.
Then a better reference and judgment can be made by both parties.


Valkyrea.

Emery Calame

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Sep 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/3/95
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In <42ctel$a...@jaring.my> Kwan Chee Keong <kwa...@eekeong.pl.my>
writes:
>
>
>Well said. I couldn't agree more.
>But then again, every one should have their own right to
>choose what they prefer, no matter how much you or me disapprove of
>it. That much we should respect.
>Maybe someone really ought to post a few thousand line long
>article here to list out all the difference between Macross and
Robotech.
>Then a better reference and judgment can be made by both parties.
>
>
>Valkyrea.

Yep. Somebody post the Robotech Faq. It pretty much does that.
Or argue with Egan Loo. That works too.

Em

Jubei

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Sep 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/3/95
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ma...@vol.net (Mak Koon Hung) wrote:
>Suolon Hu (suol...@nt.com) wrote:
>
>: So what is the difference between the Japan Macross series and the
>: Robotech series? I didn't think there was a difference...

If you didn't see a difference, then I suggest that you get a hearing
aid and new glasses(this is not meant as a flame). The change is so
obvious.

> Hello Suolon,
>
> There is a big difference.

Damn right.

> The Robotech series is a EDITED verion of the Japan Macross

Correction, Robotech is a BUTCHERED version of Macross. I don't care
about the other 2 series that made Robotech, so I won't mention
them(even though I already did).

>series. The story background is changed a lot.....
> Parts of the Robotech series is added by cutting others
>cartoons...
> I watched the Japan Macross series about ten years ago and
>watched the Robotech series a years about..
>The Robotech series is actually rubbish......

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Ryoohki

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Sep 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/3/95
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Hey, I really don't think its anything worth arguing over. I really liked
robotech when it was in the US, especially the fight scenes. But I also
liked macross as well. The only thing I didn't likE about robotech was
that mr. macek renamed the valkyrie to veritech. I like robotech a lot
and macross a lot too. My favorite so far is the Macross Plus series, I think
that's better than 7!!! Some may agree with me though, oh well. Macross II
was OK as well, leave to US renditions though to just destroy the final
volume of macross II by adding poor sound quality or changing the voices!!???
Is anyone else feeling that way? It sounded like they changed the voices in the
final episode. Maybe I was tired... Anyway, its nothing to argue about.
Or should I say, WORTH arguing about. Oh well, whenever in doubt listen to
sharon apple, information high gets ya going!

Jubei

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Sep 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/3/95
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eme...@ix.netcom.com (Emery Calame ) wrote:
>Yep. Somebody post the Robotech Faq. It pretty much does that.
>Or argue with Egan Loo. That works too.
>
>Em

You really can't argue with Egan Loo; he has every Macross source in the
world at his fingertips and in his homepage. No way in hell could you
win an arguement with him. Maybe I'll post the Robotech FAQ, then
everyone will see that Macross is SUPERIOR to Robotech(anything is
superior to Robotech). Problem is though, am I allowed to do it. Do I
have to mail Peter Fagan or something like that?

Super-Dimensional Fortress Macross(DYRL, II, Plus, 7) RULES!!!!!

Valkyrea

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Sep 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/6/95
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Ryoohki <ryo...@delphi.com> wrote:


Okay, let me show you just HOW frustrating and angry the robotech
siries makes us hardcore Macross fans feel. Try this:-

Part one. Prince killed Evil Qieen with help from 3 fairies. Snow White
wakes up after prince kisses her. They got married and live happily
everafter.

Part two. Snow White and Prince gives birth to Child. Child grows up and
organised a party to invite all the girls in the country so that a bride
can be chosen. A girl was helped to attend it after a fairy from part one
gave her cloths and stuffs. She rushes back at 12 midnight , but leaves
glassshoe. Young Prince later found her and married her.

Part three. Cinderella's son was spoiled brat. Made fairy from part two
angry. Fairy changes prince into beast. 21 years later,silly girl got
lost and found the beast in its castle. Later girl help beast to return to
human form.

Like that? Yep, that's how we feel.
Still, you have the right to choose what you like. I'm not angry with you
or anyone, just that I wanted to show you how we (I hope I can say this
for us Macross fans) feel.
Anyway, you like Macross. That counts.


"I Remember Love."


Valkyrea

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Sep 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/8/95
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Ryoohki <ryo...@delphi.com> wrote:

>Hey, I really don't think its anything worth arguing over. I really liked
>robotech when it was in the US, especially the fight scenes. But I also
>liked macross as well. The only thing I didn't likE about robotech was
>that mr. macek renamed the valkyrie to veritech. I like robotech a lot
>and macross a lot too. My favorite so far is the Macross Plus series, I think
>that's better than 7!!! Some may agree with me though, oh well. Macross II
>was OK as well, leave to US renditions though to just destroy the final
>volume of macross II by adding poor sound quality or changing the voices!!???
>Is anyone else feeling that way? It sounded like they changed the voices in the
>final episode. Maybe I was tired... Anyway, its nothing to argue about.
>Or should I say, WORTH arguing about. Oh well, whenever in doubt listen to
>sharon apple, information high gets ya going!

Well, let me put it this way, so you could understand just HOW frustrated
and angry it [robotech siries] makes us real Macross Fans feel. Try this:-

Part one : After Sleeping Beauty woke up (after being kissed by the
prince) they naturally got married and lived happily everafter.

Part two : Then they gave birth to their prince, the young prince
organised a party to invite all the girls in the land, so a bride could be
chosen. At 12 that night, a girl (who was able to atend it thanks to a
fairy) (who was one of the fairy that help the prince kill the evil queen
in part one) rushed out of the palace but droped her glass shoe. The
prince later found that girl and married her.

Part three : Unfortunately, Cinderella's son was a spoiled brat. As it
turns out, one of the fairies of part one came to the kingdom and changed
the prince into a beast. after 21 years, a silly girl got to close to the
castle and help the poor prince change back his human form.

Like that? Yeah, that's how we feel.
But still, you have the right to choose what you like. I'm not angry
with you or what, just that I would like you to know how we [Macross
Fans] feel about robotech.

Anyway, bye and choose wisely!


"I Remember Love."
Valkyrea


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