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Sea Wasp

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Jan 6, 1994, 6:44:55 PM1/6/94
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In our discussions of that pinnacle of anime art, Dragonball Z,
my fiancee and I have come across several Mysteries of Dragonball. She
insisted I post them to the net for your edification and entertainment.

1) Why does Kuririn have no nose?
1b) How does he manage to smell things in this condition?
1c) Would he suffocate if he covered his mouth?

2) How did Gohan come to be born? Gokuu, to this day, STILL seems to
lack any real idea as to what women are.

3) Why would Bulma have anything to do with Vegita?

4) If Oolong can change himself into a rocket that works like
a rocket, why couldn't he change into a motorcycle that worked like a
motorcycle? (from the Dragonball Manga)
4b) If he CAN take on the abilities of the shape, why doesn't
he just become a Super-Siajin when in danger instead of hiding? (even
cowards don't run from ants...)

5) Why is Kame-Senin a wimp in DBZ, when in Dragonball he was
powerful enough to nuke the moon in a single shot -- respectable power
even by the Z-team standards?


Sea Wasp
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Howard Chan

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Jan 6, 1994, 7:46:00 PM1/6/94
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In article <11...@blue.cis.pitt.edu>,

Sea Wasp <sea...@vm2.cis.pitt.edu> wrote:
>
> In our discussions of that pinnacle of anime art, Dragonball Z,
>my fiancee and I have come across several Mysteries of Dragonball. She
>insisted I post them to the net for your edification and entertainment.

Answers from my little sister, who is a big fan of DBZ

> 1) Why does Kuririn have no nose?

Toriyama-san forgets to put it in

> 1b) How does he manage to smell things in this condition?

He does not smell things ... he "fells" the smell of things :)

> 1c) Would he suffocate if he covered his mouth?

Yes, so he never do this for a long time

> 2) How did Gohan come to be born? Gokuu, to this day, STILL seems to
>lack any real idea as to what women are.

Basic Instinct :)

> 3) Why would Bulma have anything to do with Vegita?

Don't know (too young to answer questions like this)

> 4) If Oolong can change himself into a rocket that works like
>a rocket, why couldn't he change into a motorcycle that worked like a
>motorcycle? (from the Dragonball Manga)

His brain has been occurpied by thoughs of girls, marriages, panties, etc.,
so he cannot think of this kind of things. :)

> 4b) If he CAN take on the abilities of the shape, why doesn't
>he just become a Super-Siajin when in danger instead of hiding? (even
>cowards don't run from ants...)

He is afraid of being killed by Vejita for "insulting the nobility of
SaiyaJin



> 5) Why is Kame-Senin a wimp in DBZ, when in Dragonball he was
>powerful enough to nuke the moon in a single shot -- respectable power
>even by the Z-team standards?

He gets too many nosebleeds, which make him a lot weaker than he used to
be :)


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Gautama Buddha

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Jan 7, 1994, 4:30:40 AM1/7/94
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In article <2gibc8$1...@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>,

Howard Chan <hyc...@unixg.ubc.ca> wrote:
>In article <11...@blue.cis.pitt.edu>,
>Sea Wasp <sea...@vm2.cis.pitt.edu> wrote:
>> In our discussions of that pinnacle of anime art, Dragonball Z,
>>my fiancee and I have come across several Mysteries of Dragonball. She
>>insisted I post them to the net for your edification and entertainment.
>Answers from my little sister, who is a big fan of DBZ

Further discussion from me, who is a big fan of DBZ

>> 1) Why does Kuririn have no nose?
>Toriyama-san forgets to put it in

hehehehe ... you're kidding, right? ... right?
Actually, I think it's a cool design, Kuririn's non-nose. I wonder what
it'd look like on D-Boy ...

Saw a picture of Toriyama-sensei in a "How To Draw Dr. Slump"-esque
manga-sort-of history-thing a few days ago. I couldn't believe it. I
think I'm in denial ... ^_^;;

>> 1b) How does he manage to smell things in this condition?
>He does not smell things ... he "fells" the smell of things :)

That's one way of putting it ;)
I remember specifically some dialogue from Original Dragonball, during
the first Tenkaichi-budokai: (Kuririn just got pounded by Bacterian, a
very smelly contestant)

Goku: Kuririn! Get up! You can't lose to a guy like that!
Kuririn: *moan* *twitch* *twitch*
Goku: (noticing something) KURIRIN! It's all in your head! You
can't smell anything because *YOU DON'T HAVE A NOSE*!!
Kuririn: !!!

Kuririn, of course, proceeds to recover and kick Bacterian's ass ...

>> 1c) Would he suffocate if he covered his mouth?
>Yes, so he never do this for a long time

But, he goes swimming in the underwater cave with Bulma and Blue-shogun ...

>> 2) How did Gohan come to be born? Gokuu, to this day, STILL seems to
>>lack any real idea as to what women are.
>Basic Instinct :)

Yeah! Keep sex out of this! This is DragonBall Z, not DragonBall H ^_^
(besides, my mental picture of a pregnant Chichi is pretty revolting)
(imagine her during transition! YEEK!)

>> 3) Why would Bulma have anything to do with Vegita?
>Don't know (too young to answer questions like this)

But a good question nevertheless. I was expecting Bulma to end up with
Yamucha (wasn't everybody?) but it looks like he's going to spend the
rest of his days as the eternal bachelor ...

Speaking of which, is there any solid evidence that Bulma actually
MARRIED Vejita? Trunks being born out of wedlock seems much more
likely. I think Vejita just isn't the marrying kind ...

>> 4) If Oolong can change himself into a rocket that works like
>>a rocket, why couldn't he change into a motorcycle that worked like a
>>motorcycle? (from the Dragonball Manga)
>His brain has been occurpied by thoughs of girls, marriages, panties, etc.,
>so he cannot think of this kind of things. :)
>
>> 4b) If he CAN take on the abilities of the shape, why doesn't
>>he just become a Super-Siajin when in danger instead of hiding? (even
>>cowards don't run from ants...)
>He is afraid of being killed by Vejita for "insulting the nobility of
>SaiyaJin

and NOBODY crosses Vejita ... :)

>> 5) Why is Kame-Senin a wimp in DBZ, when in Dragonball he was
>>powerful enough to nuke the moon in a single shot -- respectable power
>>even by the Z-team standards?
>He gets too many nosebleeds, which make him a lot weaker than he used to
>be :)

hehehehehe ;)

Thought occurred to me the other day: if Capsule Corporation was
contracted out to rebuild the moon before Piccolo destroys it the SECOND
time,... does that mean you could have unPopped it into its Capsule form?

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Jan 7, 1994, 8:15:35 AM1/7/94
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Just to make this clean and quite, I know there is a book out there called
"Dragon Ball no Humitsu" ( The Secrets of Dragon Ball ) and it talks about all
these weird stuff, plot holes, etc etc about Dragon Ball.

One of the question in the book is: "where do Kame-Senjin Live?" And the answer
goes into some really complex geography stuff...

If I buy it I will post the full name with price and publisher up. ( But it is
a book in Japanese though... )

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Jason F Harvey

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Jan 7, 1994, 10:19:44 AM1/7/94
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In article <11...@blue.cis.pitt.edu> sea...@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
>
> In our discussions of that pinnacle of anime art, Dragonball Z,
>my fiancee and I have come across several Mysteries of Dragonball. She
>insisted I post them to the net for your edification and entertainment.
>
> 1) Why does Kuririn have no nose?
> 1b) How does he manage to smell things in this condition?
> 1c) Would he suffocate if he covered his mouth?

You could ask this about half the cast of Assemble Insert too :)


> 3) Why would Bulma have anything to do with Vegita?

Been wondering that myself...damn strange coupling.


> 4b) If he CAN take on the abilities of the shape, why doesn't
>he just become a Super-Siajin when in danger instead of hiding? (even
>cowards don't run from ants...)

Oh? I thought when he turned into something, he was only as strong as
he is in his original form. Hehe...Oolong firing a Kamehameh..hehe :)

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Jan 7, 1994, 12:09:17 PM1/7/94
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In article <sukebeCJ...@netcom.com> suk...@netcom.com (Gautama Buddha) writes:

[I'm deleting a lot of the funny discussion for the sake
of bandwidth]

>Saw a picture of Toriyama-sensei in a "How To Draw Dr. Slump"-esque
>manga-sort-of history-thing a few days ago. I couldn't believe it. I
>think I'm in denial ... ^_^;;

What are you in denial OF? I mean, what was so stunning about his
appearance?

>Goku: (noticing something) KURIRIN! It's all in your head! You
> can't smell anything because *YOU DON'T HAVE A NOSE*!!
>Kuririn: !!!
>
>Kuririn, of course, proceeds to recover and kick Bacterian's ass ...

So *that's* what they were saying. I'd heard something to that effect
but I wasn't sure if it was true or not.

>>> 2) How did Gohan come to be born? Gokuu, to this day, STILL seems to
>>>lack any real idea as to what women are.
>>Basic Instinct :)

>Yeah! Keep sex out of this! This is DragonBall Z, not DragonBall H ^_^
>(besides, my mental picture of a pregnant Chichi is pretty revolting)
>(imagine her during transition! YEEK!)

What? ChiChi is cute. Even pregnant, she'd have the same face.
And you CAN'T tell me that ChiChi pregnant would be more repulsive
than, say, Bacterian, or Kame-Senin with a nosebleed drooling on some
poor girl.

And "YEEK!"? Are we bringing Fuzzies into this? (Hmm. There's a
thought. A Gashta Z-Warrior. Shorter than Gohan, furrier than Puaru,
more clueless than Gokuu, and tougher than Vegita.)

>>> 3) Why would Bulma have anything to do with Vegita?

>Speaking of which, is there any solid evidence that Bulma actually


>MARRIED Vejita? Trunks being born out of wedlock seems much more
>likely. I think Vejita just isn't the marrying kind ...

I believe that it's pretty clear that Trunks IS born out of
wedlock. Though why Bulma tolerated Vegita is still a mystery to me.
Vegita's BEST days make Yamucha's WORST look like heaven.

>>> 4) If Oolong can change himself into a rocket that works like
>>>a rocket, why couldn't he change into a motorcycle that worked like a
>>>motorcycle? (from the Dragonball Manga)

>>> 4b) If he CAN take on the abilities of the shape, why doesn't


>>>he just become a Super-Siajin when in danger instead of hiding? (even
>>>cowards don't run from ants...)
>>He is afraid of being killed by Vejita for "insulting the nobility of
>>SaiyaJin

>and NOBODY crosses Vejita ... :)

ALMOST nobody. Never noticed Gokuu being particularly afraid of him.

I forgot question
4c) If Oolong's so female-crazed, why doesn't he transform to Bulma
and play with himself? :)

[Hentai Question of the Month]

>>> 5) Why is Kame-Senin a wimp in DBZ, when in Dragonball he was
>>>powerful enough to nuke the moon in a single shot -- respectable power
>>>even by the Z-team standards?

No serious answer, Rockear?

>Thought occurred to me the other day: if Capsule Corporation was
>contracted out to rebuild the moon before Piccolo destroys it the SECOND
>time,... does that mean you could have unPopped it into its Capsule form?


Probably. Wouldn't that also mean that they should be able to
replace the moon much faster this time? Roll a new one off the
assembly lines, so to speak...

(Great Dragonball Mystery 6: How do those blasted Capsules work?)


Sea Wasp
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Raa Amon Zepol

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Jan 7, 1994, 12:45:49 PM1/7/94
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On Fri, 7 Jan 1994 09:30:40 GMT Gautama Buddha scribed:

> Further discussion from me, who is a big fan of DBZ

And Mee who THINKS he's a fan ... but is really a slobbering lech ...

> >> 1) Why does Kuririn have no nose?
> >Toriyama-san forgets to put it in

> Saw a picture of Toriyama-sensei in a "How To Draw Dr. Slump"-esque


> manga-sort-of history-thing a few days ago. I couldn't believe it. I
> think I'm in denial ... ^_^;;

Heheh Yeah ... here at MY house the other day ... hehe

> >> 1b) How does he manage to smell things in this condition?
> >He does not smell things ... he "fells" the smell of things :)

> Goku: Kuririn! Get up! You can't lose to a guy like that!


> Kuririn: *moan* *twitch* *twitch*
> Goku: (noticing something) KURIRIN! It's all in your head! You
> can't smell anything because *YOU DON'T HAVE A NOSE*!!
> Kuririn: !!!

> Kuririn, of course, proceeds to recover and kick Bacterian's ass ...

Wee have that episode ... heheh

> >> 1c) Would he suffocate if he covered his mouth?
> >Yes, so he never do this for a long time

> But, he goes swimming in the underwater cave with Bulma and Blue-shogun ...

> >> 2) How did Gohan come to be born? Gokuu, to this day, STILL seems to
> >>lack any real idea as to what women are.
> >Basic Instinct :)

> Yeah! Keep sex out of this! This is DragonBall Z, not DragonBall H ^_^
> (besides, my mental picture of a pregnant Chichi is pretty revolting)
> (imagine her during transition! YEEK!)

Oh Sweet Sweet ChiChi! :)~~~

> >> 3) Why would Bulma have anything to do with Vegita?
> >Don't know (too young to answer questions like this)

> But a good question nevertheless. I was expecting Bulma to end up with
> Yamucha (wasn't everybody?) but it looks like he's going to spend the
> rest of his days as the eternal bachelor ...

> Speaking of which, is there any solid evidence that Bulma actually
> MARRIED Vejita? Trunks being born out of wedlock seems much more
> likely. I think Vejita just isn't the marrying kind ...

> >> 4) If Oolong can change himself into a rocket that works like
> >>a rocket, why couldn't he change into a motorcycle that worked like a
> >>motorcycle? (from the Dragonball Manga)
> >His brain has been occurpied by thoughs of girls, marriages, panties, etc.,
> >so he cannot think of this kind of things. :)
> >
> >> 4b) If he CAN take on the abilities of the shape, why doesn't
> >>he just become a Super-Siajin when in danger instead of hiding? (even
> >>cowards don't run from ants...)
> >He is afraid of being killed by Vejita for "insulting the nobility of
> >SaiyaJin

> and NOBODY crosses Vejita ... :)

Oh GIT OFF IT! Everyone knows that Vejita is a closet Piccolo Clone! ;)

> >> 5) Why is Kame-Senin a wimp in DBZ, when in Dragonball he was
> >>powerful enough to nuke the moon in a single shot -- respectable power
> >>even by the Z-team standards?
> >He gets too many nosebleeds, which make him a lot weaker than he used to
> >be :)

> hehehehehe ;)

> Thought occurred to me the other day: if Capsule Corporation was
> contracted out to rebuild the moon before Piccolo destroys it the SECOND
> time,... does that mean you could have unPopped it into its Capsule form?

Hehheheheh Yeah ...

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Jan 7, 1994, 2:41:39 PM1/7/94
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In article <xaemylCJ...@netcom.com>,

Raa Amon Zepol <xae...@netcom.com> wrote:
>
>Heheh Yeah ... here at MY house the other day ... hehe
>
>Wee have that episode ... heheh
>
>> hehehehehe ;)
>
>Hehheheheh Yeah ...
>

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Gautama Buddha

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In article <11...@blue.cis.pitt.edu>,
Sea Wasp <sea...@vm2.cis.pitt.edu> wrote:
>In article <sukebeCJ...@netcom.com> suk...@netcom.com (Gautama Buddha) writes:
> [I'm deleting a lot of the funny discussion for the sake
> of bandwidth]

Bandwidth EXISTS to be wasted ... ;-}

>>Saw a picture of Toriyama-sensei in a "How To Draw Dr. Slump"-esque
>>manga-sort-of history-thing a few days ago. I couldn't believe it. I
>>think I'm in denial ... ^_^;;
> What are you in denial OF? I mean, what was so stunning about his
>appearance?

Dunno. Nobody *ever* looks like I think they do. I had the same
reaction the first time I saw a picture of Rumiko Takahashi ... made
doubly shocking by the fact that she was SMILING. (cf. Viz's _Lum_
translations if you folks don't believe me :) I mean, I always
rationalized that Takahashi-sensei, like Piccolo, simply lacks the
facial muscles to smile. ;)

>>>> 2) How did Gohan come to be born? Gokuu, to this day, STILL seems to
>>>>lack any real idea as to what women are.
>>>Basic Instinct :)
>>Yeah! Keep sex out of this! This is DragonBall Z, not DragonBall H ^_^
>>(besides, my mental picture of a pregnant Chichi is pretty revolting)
>>(imagine her during transition! YEEK!)
> What? ChiChi is cute. Even pregnant, she'd have the same face.

Oh, she's cute, all right. (Not as cute as Bulma, but that's another
post altogether ;) But imagine:

1) Beautiful face. Glistening teeth, cascading hair, perfectly
Toriyama-signature oversized ears.
2) Immaculate shoulders, gently curving into creamy-smooth breasts.
3) Belly swollen to over 8x normal size.
4) Gracefully tapering legs down to delectible toes.

We're talking about day-before-delivery here. I can see how a sight
like that would scare off some HUSBANDS.

>And you CAN'T tell me that ChiChi pregnant would be more repulsive
>than, say, Bacterian, or Kame-Senin with a nosebleed drooling on some
>poor girl.

Hey! Kamesennin is a man I can ADMIRE. Doing his sex-defined duty up
until the day he expires ... wow, what devotion. I hope I'm that active
at his age.

> And "YEEK!"? Are we bringing Fuzzies into this? (Hmm. There's a
>thought. A Gashta Z-Warrior. Shorter than Gohan, furrier than Puaru,
>more clueless than Gokuu, and tougher than Vegita.)

I get the vague feeling I'm missing a Very Big Something here. What's a
Gashta?

>>>> 3) Why would Bulma have anything to do with Vegita?
>>Speaking of which, is there any solid evidence that Bulma actually
>>MARRIED Vejita? Trunks being born out of wedlock seems much more
>>likely. I think Vejita just isn't the marrying kind ...
> I believe that it's pretty clear that Trunks IS born out of
>wedlock. Though why Bulma tolerated Vegita is still a mystery to me.
>Vegita's BEST days make Yamucha's WORST look like heaven.

Hey, as the song goes, "Love is strange ..."
Bulma and Yamucha have been in an on again/off again relationship for
what, four or five years? Maybe she just got tired of it. So along
comes a MANLY man out of nowhere (who just happens to be an alien, but
so what?) who Takes No Shit ... bam, instant attraction. I can see it.

Something for the Lemon List, at any rate. Call it "Capsule Passion" ;-}

>>>> 4) If Oolong can change himself into a rocket that works like
>>>>a rocket, why couldn't he change into a motorcycle that worked like a
>>>>motorcycle? (from the Dragonball Manga)

Somebody (Phil? I could be wrong) said it earlier -- he has the same
physical strength, no matter what form he's in. So the first person to
sit on Oolong-as-a-motorcycle squashes him. (Kinda pointless anyway,
since he can only stay changed for one minute)

>>>He is afraid of being killed by Vejita for "insulting the nobility of
>>>SaiyaJin
>>and NOBODY crosses Vejita ... :)
> ALMOST nobody. Never noticed Gokuu being particularly afraid of him.

Well, only because Vejita never got around to killing him. Goku seems
to learn by trial and error ... :)

> I forgot question
> 4c) If Oolong's so female-crazed, why doesn't he transform to Bulma
>and play with himself? :)

Mmmmm, isn't that just a bit _too_ Hentai? We ARE talking about a
children's show, you know ;-)

>>>> 5) Why is Kame-Senin a wimp in DBZ, when in Dragonball he was
>>>>powerful enough to nuke the moon in a single shot -- respectable power
>>>>even by the Z-team standards?
> No serious answer, Rockear?

Maybe because he'd look stupid as a Super-Saiyajin?
(Actually, I just thought Howard's explanation was funnier ^_^)

>>Thought occurred to me the other day: if Capsule Corporation was
>>contracted out to rebuild the moon before Piccolo destroys it the SECOND
>>time,... does that mean you could have unPopped it into its Capsule form?
> Probably. Wouldn't that also mean that they should be able to
>replace the moon much faster this time? Roll a new one off the
>assembly lines, so to speak...

It'd be tricky deploying it, though, I'd think. (CHIA MOON! Just unPop
the Capsule, add water, and apply the seeds ...)

SPEAKING OF MOONS: was Kaiou-sama's little planetoid ever given a name?
For lack of a better term, around here we've taken up calling it Planet
Mackerel; anybody who's seen Cosmic Osmo can figure out why ...

> (Great Dragonball Mystery 6: How do those blasted Capsules work?)

Why, FM, of course. :)

Sea Wasp

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In article <sukebeCJ...@netcom.com> suk...@netcom.com (Gautama Buddha) writes:

>Sea Wasp <sea...@vm2.cis.pitt.edu> wrote:

>>In article <sukebeCJ...@netcom.com> suk...@netcom.com (Gautama Buddha) writes:

[I wrote]


>> [I'm deleting a lot of the funny discussion for the sake
>> of bandwidth]

>Bandwidth EXISTS to be wasted ... ;-}

True, true. But appearances have to be kept up.

>>>Yeah! Keep sex out of this! This is DragonBall Z, not DragonBall H ^_^
>>>(besides, my mental picture of a pregnant Chichi is pretty revolting)
>>>(imagine her during transition! YEEK!)

>> What? ChiChi is cute. Even pregnant, she'd have the same face.

>Oh, she's cute, all right. (Not as cute as Bulma, but that's another
>post altogether ;)

Definitely. Bulma's Built, though you can't be so sure in DBZ
with the outfit she tends to wear. Until the "Space Chia Pet" starship
sequence, where she suddenly wears a Sigourney Weaver "Aliens" special --
T-shirt and Panties. [Good thing Oolong wasn't along on that trip, he'd
have died...]

>>And you CAN'T tell me that ChiChi pregnant would be more repulsive
>>than, say, Bacterian, or Kame-Senin with a nosebleed drooling on some
>>poor girl.

>Hey! Kamesennin is a man I can ADMIRE. Doing his sex-defined duty up
>until the day he expires ... wow, what devotion. I hope I'm that active
>at his age.

So that's "sex-defined duty"? Tsk. One day you'll meet a nice
girl... and she'll slap you silly. Kame-Senin is a dirty old man who
happens to have a hell of a training program.


>> And "YEEK!"? Are we bringing Fuzzies into this? (Hmm. There's a
>>thought. A Gashta Z-Warrior. Shorter than Gohan, furrier than Puaru,
>>more clueless than Gokuu, and tougher than Vegita.)

>I get the vague feeling I'm missing a Very Big Something here. What's a
>Gashta?

From H.Beam Piper's books "Little Fuzzy" and "The Other Human
Race". SF classic. Gashta [their name for themselves] or Fuzzies [human
name for them] are about 1.5-2 feet tall, covered with golden fur, adorable
little things, and their speech to human ears sounds like: "YEEK. YEEK YEEK!
YEEEEK."

>> I believe that it's pretty clear that Trunks IS born out of
>>wedlock. Though why Bulma tolerated Vegita is still a mystery to me.
>>Vegita's BEST days make Yamucha's WORST look like heaven.

>Bulma and Yamucha have been in an on again/off again relationship for


>what, four or five years? Maybe she just got tired of it. So along
>comes a MANLY man out of nowhere (who just happens to be an alien, but
>so what?) who Takes No Shit ... bam, instant attraction. I can see it.

MANLY man? You mean a sawed-off demon Wish-Troll with an attitude.
Gokuu, Piccolo, and even Napa might qualify as MANLY men. I mean, look
at Vegita: He has a Wish-Troll's hairdo, and the face and attitude of
Montana Max grown up.

>>>>> 4) If Oolong can change himself into a rocket that works like
>>>>>a rocket, why couldn't he change into a motorcycle that worked like a
>>>>>motorcycle? (from the Dragonball Manga)

>Somebody (Phil? I could be wrong) said it earlier -- he has the same
>physical strength, no matter what form he's in. So the first person to
>sit on Oolong-as-a-motorcycle squashes him. (Kinda pointless anyway,
>since he can only stay changed for one minute)

Five minutes, actually. He has to REST one minute between changes.
That's still useful, if it worked.

And if Oolong has the same physical strength when changed, how
can he even MOVE when he becomes something 9 feet tall weighing in at
a couple thousand pounds?

>>>and NOBODY crosses Vejita ... :)

>> ALMOST nobody. Never noticed Gokuu being particularly afraid of him.

>Well, only because Vejita never got around to killing him. Goku seems
>to learn by trial and error ... :)

Vegita CAN'T kill Gokuu. The poor schmuck tried. And tried. Even if
he got Gokuu in a position where it LOOKED like Vegita could kill him,
someone would intervene. And old turnip-head knows it.

>> I forgot question
>> 4c) If Oolong's so female-crazed, why doesn't he transform to Bulma
>>and play with himself? :)

>Mmmmm, isn't that just a bit _too_ Hentai? We ARE talking about a
>children's show, you know ;-)

So, you don't have to SHOW it on camera. Just have him coming out of
the bathroom as Bulma with an odd expression on his face.

>>>>> 5) Why is Kame-Senin a wimp in DBZ, when in Dragonball he was
>>>>>powerful enough to nuke the moon in a single shot -- respectable power
>>>>>even by the Z-team standards?
>> No serious answer, Rockear?

>Maybe because he'd look stupid as a Super-Saiyajin?

True. No hair to change. But he's not a Saiyajin anyway.


>> (Great Dragonball Mystery 6: How do those blasted Capsules work?)

>Why, FM, of course. :)

????

Mystery 7: Why can't Kuririn EVER hit something with his Flying
Pizza of Doom?

[My answer: Because, judging by the reactions of those around him,
if he ever DID hit with it, the target would be instantly dead, and we
can't have people die, split in half, in a single second in DBZ; battles
have to last a lot longer.]


Sea Wasp
/^\
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Raa Amon Zepol

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On 7 Jan 1994 19:41:39 GMT Frank Chen scribed:

> Not Only is he a contender for Hentai for the year but a great bevis and
> butthead impertionator !!! :) Way to go X-Man !!

Heheh Yeah ...

Edward A Weinstein-1

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> In our discussions of that pinnacle of anime art, Dragonball Z,
>my fiancee and I have come across several Mysteries of Dragonball. She
>insisted I post them to the net for your edification and entertainment.

> 1) Why does Kuririn have no nose?
> 1b) How does he manage to smell things in this condition?
> 1c) Would he suffocate if he covered his mouth?

Not too sure on this one, but the six bumps on his head have something to
do with it. I was told by a Japanese person (who I think was actually
speculating) that he smelled with those.

> 2) How did Gohan come to be born? Gokuu, to this day, STILL seems to
>lack any real idea as to what women are.

Heh! You're engaged. You figure it out. Whatever answer you come up
with, repeat the process with Goten.

> 3) Why would Bulma have anything to do with Vegita?

Bulma is NOT emotionally stable. She does wise up with time, but when
Vegita first shows up and starts having Nappa (which does NOT mean
"Extreme Cabbage") kill things, Bulma talks about how much of a beefcake
he is. Hell, at the beginning of the story she wanted to assemble the
Dragonballs for no reason other than to wish for a cool boyfriend...

> 4) If Oolong can change himself into a rocket that works like
>a rocket, why couldn't he change into a motorcycle that worked like a
>motorcycle? (from the Dragonball Manga)

Just a guess, but Oolong had ferocious gas at the time....

> 4b) If he CAN take on the abilities of the shape, why doesn't
>he just become a Super-Siajin when in danger instead of hiding? (even
>cowards don't run from ants...

Oolong is so much more than just a coward; don't sell him short.

> 5) Why is Kame-Senin a wimp in DBZ, when in Dragonball he was
>powerful enough to nuke the moon in a single shot -- respectable power
>even by the Z-team standards?

Age?


Ed "Extreme Destruction" Weinstein

Gautama Buddha

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In article <wein0047....@gold.tc.umn.edu>,

Edward A Weinstein-1 <wein...@gold.tc.umn.edu> wrote:
>Heh! You're engaged. You figure it out. Whatever answer you come up
>with, repeat the process with Goten.

Goten does not exist. Biteru does not exist. Gohan never reaches
puberty, Goku remains comfortably dead, and any episodes after Trunks
returns to the future are merely figments of your diseased imagination.

>> 5) Why is Kame-Senin a wimp in DBZ, when in Dragonball he was
>>powerful enough to nuke the moon in a single shot -- respectable power
>>even by the Z-team standards?
>Age?

(first Tenkaichi-budokai, episode 24)
Announcer: "In fact, it's unbelievable that the Wise One is still alive!!"
Jackie Chung/Mutenroushi: *KTHONGG*

Gautama Buddha

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In article <11...@blue.cis.pitt.edu>,
Sea Wasp <sea...@vm2.cis.pitt.edu> wrote:

[attributions deletia -- it's me and Sea Wasp, you should be able to
figure out who's who]

>>Hey! Kamesennin is a man I can ADMIRE. Doing his sex-defined duty up
>>until the day he expires ... wow, what devotion. I hope I'm that active
>>at his age.
> So that's "sex-defined duty"? Tsk. One day you'll meet a nice
>girl... and she'll slap you silly. Kame-Senin is a dirty old man who
>happens to have a hell of a training program.

Look, he's 80+ years old (perhaps much, much older than that -- see
below) and still has a healthy libido. My grandfather didn't fare
nearly as well. Not only is that something to aim for, that's something
to be PROUD of, in my book :)

[Gashta description]
I seem to have managed to miss a great deal of the classic SF out there.
(Lensman, for example, is nowhere to be found in the library here. This
is typical of this branch. :-I )

>>Bulma and Yamucha have been in an on again/off again relationship for
>>what, four or five years? Maybe she just got tired of it. So along
>>comes a MANLY man out of nowhere (who just happens to be an alien, but
>>so what?) who Takes No Shit ... bam, instant attraction. I can see it.
> MANLY man? You mean a sawed-off demon Wish-Troll with an attitude.
>Gokuu, Piccolo, and even Napa might qualify as MANLY men. I mean, look
>at Vegita: He has a Wish-Troll's hairdo, and the face and attitude of
>Montana Max grown up.

He gets better! I was rather surprised that he even bothered to say
goodbye to Trunks at his departure. Ah, Fatherhood ...

As for the rest of them:
Goku is taken. Rather vehemently, in fact.
Piccolo is green. (Speaking of Piccolo, do Namek-sei-jin even HAVE
two sexes? I've never seen any Namekian femmes ... :)
Radits was dead by the time she got close enough to get a good look.
(Even then, she was only interested in his Scouter @_@ )
Nappa I don't know, never seen any episodes with him on earth.

[Oolong transformation]


> Five minutes, actually. He has to REST one minute between changes.
>That's still useful, if it worked.

You know what I mean. @_@; :) Too little caffeine again ... *sigh*

>>>>and NOBODY crosses Vejita ... :)
>>> ALMOST nobody. Never noticed Gokuu being particularly afraid of him.
>>Well, only because Vejita never got around to killing him. Goku seems
>>to learn by trial and error ... :)
> Vegita CAN'T kill Gokuu. The poor schmuck tried. And tried. Even if
>he got Gokuu in a position where it LOOKED like Vegita could kill him,
>someone would intervene. And old turnip-head knows it.

Vejita missed his best chance the first time he laid eyes on Kakaroto.
But after that point, I'm sure that with a little work he could have
done it, were he so inclined :)

(Wouldn't have stopped the rest of them from wishing him back to life,
though :)

Saiyajin thrive on fighting. Vejita's no longer working for King Cold's
company, so keeping Goku ALIVE after Freezer's death is in his own best
interest, even if it's only for something to fight against! Being at
the top can be a very boring situation ...

>>>>>> 5) Why is Kame-Senin a wimp in DBZ, when in Dragonball he was
>>>>>>powerful enough to nuke the moon in a single shot -- respectable power
>>>>>>even by the Z-team standards?

>>Maybe because he'd look stupid as a Super-Saiyajin?
> True. No hair to change. But he's not a Saiyajin anyway.

No, he's not, he's a Sennin. (Somebody correct me quick if my
interpretation is wrong. If so, it's *X'S* fault! Yeah! That's it ...)

Kamesennin is a fallen heavenly-spirit, banished to earth to repent for
some breach he committed long ago. (Probably general eicchiness,
knowing him, but I digress.) Why d'you think they call him the "God of
Martial Arts", anyway? Maybe because it's TRUE ...

Truth? Fiction? Beats me, this is word-of-mouth. (Although I still
think his beard would look HILARIOUS spiked out in a blond Super-Saiyan
hair-explosion. :-)

>>> (Great Dragonball Mystery 6: How do those blasted Capsules work?)
>>Why, FM, of course. :)
> ????

Fucking Magic. ;)

Frank Chen

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In article <11...@blue.cis.pitt.edu>,
Sea Wasp <sea...@vm2.cis.pitt.edu> wrote:
>
>>Somebody (Phil? I could be wrong) said it earlier -- he has the same
>>physical strength, no matter what form he's in. So the first person to
>>sit on Oolong-as-a-motorcycle squashes him. (Kinda pointless anyway,
>>since he can only stay changed for one minute)
>

Are you refering to me ??? :)

Phil Yee
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Gautama Buddha

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In article <2gpub5$d...@agate.berkeley.edu>,

Frank Chen <fra...@OCF.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:
>>>Somebody (Phil? I could be wrong) said it earlier -- he has the same
> Are you refering to me ??? :)

Dunno. The article I was thinking of seems to have evaporated here at
my site, so I can't check it for attribution.

Oh well ... gomen nasai ;_; It might not have been you after all ...

Chi Tsang

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You Spelt "Beavis" wrong. Huh huh huh huh huh. Shut up - Bunghole!

Tony Chen

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Kamensenin [sp?] is not a god, but he somehow gained immortality (I'm not sure
how, there's no reference about it). I think it's somewhere/somewhen after he
tried to get the "Holy Water(?)"(I'm not sure about the translation) from
the cat (I forgot his name, I'm awfully terrible with names, but I think you know).

Namek-sei-jin (sp?) reproduce by eggs. And it's asexual (take biology classes
if you don't understand it). Remember that Piccolo was hatched from egg after
his predecessor(what-his-name) was killed by Son-goku in Ten-chi Budokan(sp?).

Sheesh, I really have to memorize those names. And take a spelling lesson too.
:)

ANIME FOREVER, Tony.

Ken Elescor

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|> 3) Why would Bulma have anything to do with Vegita?

Hey! Everyone fell in the trap! In fact, in front of every other
DBZ character, Vegita shows himself as a hyper-proud, obnoxious,
bad,... character, but when at home, it is Bulma who commands! But, ya
know, it's for his image and reputation... ^_^

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Peter Shum Internet no Totoro

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In article <11...@blue.cis.pitt.edu> sea...@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
>
> In our discussions of that pinnacle of anime art, Dragonball Z,
>my fiancee and I have come across several Mysteries of Dragonball. She
>insisted I post them to the net for your edification and entertainment.

The REAL MYSTERY OF DRAGONBALL Z IS:

WHY DOES ANYBODY WATCH IT?


Gomen Nasai! I just retreat into my little corner and watch some more
Sailor Moon.


"Yaadaa! Yaadaa! Yappari Yaadaa!!" Tsukino Usagi - Sailor Moon Episode 10

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Emru Townsend

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pet...@sue.econ.su.oz.au (Peter Shum "Internet no Totoro") writes:

>In article <11...@blue.cis.pitt.edu> sea...@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
>>
>> In our discussions of that pinnacle of anime art, Dragonball Z,
>>my fiancee and I have come across several Mysteries of Dragonball. She
>>insisted I post them to the net for your edification and entertainment.

>The REAL MYSTERY OF DRAGONBALL Z IS:

> WHY DOES ANYBODY WATCH IT?

Completely insane martial arts; a nice touch of humour; very dynamic.
Doesn't require detailed translation, so I can show it to friends without
overly long explanations.
--
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Live and in color from Montreal, Quebec!
You got your protons in the middle; electrons floatin' round above
What holds it all together? Crazy sub-atomic love!

Gautama Buddha

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In article <CJLK3...@ucc.su.oz.au>,

Peter Shum "Internet no Totoro" <pet...@sue.econ.su.oz.au> wrote:
>In article <11...@blue.cis.pitt.edu> sea...@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
>The REAL MYSTERY OF DRAGONBALL Z IS:
> WHY DOES ANYBODY WATCH IT?

(*sigh*) Anime Wars ...

... ARE LAME.

>Gomen Nasai! I just retreat into my little corner and watch some more
>Sailor Moon.

And stay there. :)

Sea Wasp

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In article <CJLK3...@ucc.su.OZ.AU> pet...@sue.econ.su.oz.au (Peter Shum "Internet no Totoro") writes:

>In article <11...@blue.cis.pitt.edu> sea...@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:

>> In our discussions of that pinnacle of anime art, Dragonball Z,
>>my fiancee and I have come across several Mysteries of Dragonball. She
>>insisted I post them to the net for your edification and entertainment.

>The REAL MYSTERY OF DRAGONBALL Z IS:
> WHY DOES ANYBODY WATCH IT?
>Gomen Nasai! I just retreat into my little corner and watch some more
>Sailor Moon.


Our answer:

Because their brains have been destroyed by watching too many other
mindless shows... such as Sailor Moon.

The Joy That Is Usagi found us first, and gave to us Her wisdom!

Prepared by the Mighty Usagi, we then were ready for the Revelations
of Gohan.

Prepare yourself. You too will be assimilated.


Sailor Wasp
"Wasp Prism Power -- Make UP!
^@____@^
/ / SW \ \
/ /______\ \
; ;|;|;|; ;
; ; ;

Gautama Buddha

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In article <12...@blue.cis.pitt.edu>,

Sea Wasp <sea...@vm2.cis.pitt.edu> wrote:
>In article <CJLK3...@ucc.su.OZ.AU> pet...@sue.econ.su.oz.au (Peter Shum "Internet no Totoro") writes:
>>The REAL MYSTERY OF DRAGONBALL Z IS:
>> WHY DOES ANYBODY WATCH IT?
>>Gomen Nasai! I just retreat into my little corner and watch some more
>>Sailor Moon.
> Our answer:
> Because their brains have been destroyed by watching too many other
>mindless shows... such as Sailor Moon.
> The Joy That Is Usagi found us first, and gave to us Her wisdom!

Speak for yourself, Wasp. I keep my hands the hell off Sailor Womb.

> Prepare yourself. You too will be assimilated.

This we agree on, but it sure-shootin' won't be by the Usagi Collective.

Patrick James Conley

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In article <CJLK3...@ucc.su.OZ.AU> pet...@sue.econ.su.oz.au (Peter Shum "Internet no Totoro") writes:
>In article <11...@blue.cis.pitt.edu> sea...@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
>>
>> In our discussions of that pinnacle of anime art, Dragonball Z,
>>my fiancee and I have come across several Mysteries of Dragonball. She
>>insisted I post them to the net for your edification and entertainment.
>
>The REAL MYSTERY OF DRAGONBALL Z IS:
>
> WHY DOES ANYBODY WATCH IT?
>
Because it's a hell of a lot more entertaining than some other stuff out
there that a lot of otaku-wannabes drool over! (KOR springs to mind)

Actually, I think it's interesting (and enjoyable) because characters
actually grow and change over the course of the series: I mean, We've watched
Gohan (for example) grow from a little squirt who'se main attack was to cry
at his target, into a responsible, suprisingly well-adjusted young man. In
esscence, the characters have grown as the audience has. I like that.

Oh yeah, and the fights are pretty cool too.....

>Gomen Nasai! I just retreat into my little corner and watch some more
>Sailor Moon.

And well you should...

Michael Agney

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pc...@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Patrick James Conley) writes:
>>The REAL MYSTERY OF DRAGONBALL Z IS:
>>
>> WHY DOES ANYBODY WATCH IT?
>>
>Because it's a hell of a lot more entertaining than some other stuff out
>there that a lot of otaku-wannabes drool over! (KOR springs to mind)

You'd better be coming up with something substantive to go with this
comment, or I'll just have to... to... ignore you!
--
| Michael Agney | Five tons of flax! |
| | |
| | |
| mag...@cco.caltech.edu | |

Sea Wasp

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In article <2hjs9d$2...@gap.cco.caltech.edu> mag...@cco.caltech.edu (Michael Agney) writes:

>pc...@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Patrick James Conley) writes:

>>>The REAL MYSTERY OF DRAGONBALL Z IS:
>>> WHY DOES ANYBODY WATCH IT?

>>Because it's a hell of a lot more entertaining than some other stuff out
>>there that a lot of otaku-wannabes drool over! (KOR springs to mind)

>You'd better be coming up with something substantive to go with this
>comment, or I'll just have to... to... ignore you!


Well, KOR is just a standard love triangle with a hero who
happens to have psi powers (which he tries to avoid using). It's been
done. (Yes, yes, Wei, flame on. I'm tempted to watch ALL of KOR just
so I can say, "yes, I saw everything" and still zap the show.)

Dragonball, on the other hand, is... bizarre. If you consider the
entire series, it's clear that not only is there a lot of parody and
in-reference, there's a lot of strangely original thought that got put
into this work of art. The Monkey King references aren't just casual;
there are parallels in the series to much of that legend. Then it takes
off in other directions.

I've never seen a universe quite like the one DBZ exists in. I
suppose (as I put it in an Email message recently) that it's what you'd
get if you took Walt Disney's animated worlds and set them on a collision
course with ROBOCOP, Superman, and Kung Fu. The result of that catastrophe
might be rather close to that of the Dragonball universe. It has its
own strange brand of consistency and, as someone else points out, there's
a lot more character development going on than you'd EVER think from
your first glances at the show.


Sea Wasp
/^\
;;;

Peter Shum Internet no Totoro

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Jan 22, 1994, 12:47:46 PM1/22/94
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In article <2hjs9d$2...@gap.cco.caltech.edu> mag...@cco.caltech.edu (Michael Agney) writes:
>pc...@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Patrick James Conley) writes:
>>>The REAL MYSTERY OF DRAGONBALL Z IS:
>>>
>>> WHY DOES ANYBODY WATCH IT?
>>>
>>Because it's a hell of a lot more entertaining than some other stuff out
>>there that a lot of otaku-wannabes drool over! (KOR springs to mind)
>
>You'd better be coming up with something substantive to go with this
>comment, or I'll just have to... to... ignore you!
^^^^^^^^^^^
I expect you to... to... slap him! Perhaps saying "Darling" to him will
cause more damage.

Peter Shum Internet no Totoro

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Jan 22, 1994, 12:40:45 PM1/22/94
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In article <2hjp02...@uwm.edu> pc...@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Patrick James Conley) writes:
>In article <CJLK3...@ucc.su.OZ.AU> pet...@sue.econ.su.oz.au (Peter Shum "Internet no Totoro") writes:
>>
>>The REAL MYSTERY OF DRAGONBALL Z IS:
>>
>> WHY DOES ANYBODY WATCH IT?
>>
>Because it's a hell of a lot more entertaining than some other stuff out
>there that a lot of otaku-wannabes drool over! (KOR springs to mind)
>
>>Gomen Nasai! I just retreat into my little corner and watch some more
>>Sailor Moon.
>
>And well you should...

Unfortunately for raa, that corner as has a laptop, a modem and phone line.
You'll be still hearing from me.

Peter Shum Internet no Totoro

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Jan 22, 1994, 11:53:30 AM1/22/94
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In article <12...@blue.cis.pitt.edu> sea...@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
>In article <CJLK3...@ucc.su.OZ.AU> pet...@sue.econ.su.oz.au (Peter Shum "Internet no Totoro") writes:
>
>>The REAL MYSTERY OF DRAGONBALL Z IS:
>> WHY DOES ANYBODY WATCH IT?
>
>
> Prepare yourself. You too will be assimilated.
>
I refuse! I refuse! I absolutely refuse!

I think I've used this argument on the net before. That's right
Not long ago, I said tthat about Sailor Moon. I hope history will not
repeat itself!

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