What happened to Claudia Grant in ROBOTECH II: THE SENTINELS?
Steven Feldman, member of Anime Hasshin
I've been reading the ROBOTECH II: THE SENTINELS comic book all along (I
didn't and don't read the McKinney novels), but Claudia Grant seems to have
have slipped by the wayside. There is Vince Grant and Bowie Grant, but no
Claudia. Apparently, she died. What I want to know is how, and under what
circumstances.
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I believe she died in the big explosion of the SDF-1,SDF-2 and Khyron's ship.
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Er...Nothing happened to Claudia Grant in Robotech II: THE SENTINELS. It
was in the original series that something happened to her, mainly, death,
when in the final episode of the "Macross" story, #36: "To The Stars,"
Khyron and Azonia made a kamikaze attack with their battleship on the SDF-1,
with Admiral Gloval, Commanders Hayes and Grant, and the bridge ratings,
Sammie, Kim, and Vanessa. Only Hayes survived, when she was pushed into an
ejection capsule by the others. Requiscat in pace. But, take my advice. If
you're at all interested in the Robotech story, read the McKinney novels--
all of them. They're well written, and the quotes that begin each chapter are
a delight.
--Carl "Alpha Tactical Armored Corps" Horn
P.S. Of course, if anyone had done what Harmony Gold did to Macross, Southern
Cross, and Mospeada to a seies I had loved, like "Lupin The Third," I'd have
walked in with a twelve-gauge Mossberg.
MEGAZONE 23
> I've been reading the ROBOTECH II: THE SENTINELS comic book all along (I
>didn't and don't read the McKinney novels), but Claudia Grant seems to have
>have slipped by the wayside. There is Vince Grant and Bowie Grant, but no
>Claudia. Apparently, she died. What I want to know is how, and under what
>circumstances.
Easy. She was the one who, along with Capt. Gloval, shoved Lisa into the escape
pod. She died on the SDF-1 when Khyron rammed it. This is stated in the series,
when Lisa names all of the names as says something like 'all gone' and in the
novels. The crash kill Gloval, Cladia, and the bridge bunnies. Lisa was the
only one of the bridge crew to escape.
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Dear John.
Do you know, I really wish Lisa wasn't pushed into the escape pod, because
I think Rick belongs with Minmei (Minmay)! Having Rick marry Lisa is the
BIGGEST mistake (I was heartbroken on behalf of Minmei for weeks!) The
story would have been great if Lisa died and Rick and Minmei finally got
together and......happily ever after.
Pooooor Minmei....
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Benoy Koshy
jl...@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Dear John.) writes:
>Do you know, I really wish Lisa wasn't pushed into the escape pod,
because
>I think Rick belongs with Minmei (Minmay)! Having Rick marry Lisa is the
>BIGGEST mistake (I was heartbroken on behalf of Minmei for weeks!) The
>story would have been great if Lisa died and Rick and Minmei finally got
>together and......happily ever after.
Ha. I hated Minmei from the beginning. What a flirt. Do anything that
suit her needs and popularity. Rick is much better of with Lisa (Misa).
I'm sure if Rick and Minmei did ever get married, they'd divorce in a few
months...
>Pooooor Minmei....
Don't look for sympathy from me! :)
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Dear John.
Benoy Koshy writes:
>Ha. I hated Minmei from the beginning. What a flirt. Do anything that
>suit her needs and popularity. Rick is much better of with Lisa (Misa).
>I'm sure if Rick and Minmei did ever get married, they'd divorce in a few
>months...
So what's wrong with being a flirt? Some people like flirts! :) Plus,
Minmei is not THAT bad....she's just naive and innocent.
And even if Minmei does divorce Rick after a few months, we all know
they'll get back together in another few months. Life with Minmei would
have been exciting, but instead Rick chose that old foggie Lisa (Misa)
who is already married to her mundane work. What a big mistake!
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martin f rose
>
>Benoy Koshy writes:
>>Ha. I hated Minmei from the beginning. What a flirt. Do anything that
>>suit her needs and popularity. Rick is much better of with Lisa (Misa).
>>I'm sure if Rick and Minmei did ever get married, they'd divorce in a few
>>months...
>
>So what's wrong with being a flirt? Some people like flirts! :) Plus,
>Minmei is not THAT bad....she's just naive and innocent.
And precocious, and flighty, and selfish, and arrogant, and a DEMON FROM
THE DEEPEST PITS OF HELL, but aside from that, no problem... :)
>And even if Minmei does divorce Rick after a few months, we all know
>they'll get back together in another few months.
And break apart again a few months after that, and together, and apart,
and together... "Rick honey, are we married or divorced this week?"
> Life with Minmei would
>have been exciting,
(...for about 15 minutes...)
>but instead Rick chose that old foggie Lisa (Misa)
>who is already married to her mundane work. What a big mistake!
Sorry, but he made no mistake. You weren't paying attention in Episodes
35 and 36, were you? Rick and Minmei were giving it a try, and only
Lynn-Minmei's selfish, childish blindness didn't allow her to see that
it wasn't working. See, Rick's a pilot, and Rick's a soldier, but
Minmei wouldn't allow him to be either. Lisa, on the other hand, can
accept him for what he is--a kind, caring man who also happens to be a
none-too-shabby pilot and an RDF squadron leader.
Rick did the right thing. It was at the end of Ep 36 that Minmei finally
realized that, too.
[Does it show that I'd grown a little fond of Lisa? :) ]
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>
> Benoy Koshy writes:
>>Ha. I hated Minmei from the beginning. What a flirt. Do anything that
>>suit her needs and popularity. Rick is much better of with Lisa (Misa).
>>I'm sure if Rick and Minmei did ever get married, they'd divorce in a few
>>months...
>
> So what's wrong with being a flirt? Some people like flirts! :) Plus,
> Minmei is not THAT bad....she's just naive and innocent.
...self-centered, annoying, flighty, and a general pain in the @$$.
Her only redeeming values are optimism, creativity (I think), cuteness, and
a good voice (except in the American version).
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I've heard lots of people rip on Minmei. I don't mind the character myself,
but I am sure glad that she and Rick did not get married. I mean, aside from
Minmei being a flirt, doesn't the word "airhead" sort of come to mind? I mean,
she never knew if she wanted to be a singing star, or if she wanted to marry
Rick, or whatever.
Incidentally, there is a line in Robotech II: The Sentinels video tape where
Minmei says something to the effect of "It's over now, I have to get on with
my life" which sort of shows that it took here 10 years and the actual event
of Rick and Lisa's wedding for Minmei to clue in to the fact that she and
Rick where not an item. Just something to think about.
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Ryk E Spoor
Minmei had no redeeming features. She wasn't even as good-looking as
Lisa. Her voice was passable, but the character was simply annoying. I was glad
when she died.
In all fairness to the american casting, in order to justify the effect
that Minmei was supposed to have with her singing, only Barbra Streisand could
have done it justice, and she would be unbelievably expensive (even assuming
she'd do it at all...)
Sea Wasp
(Ryk E. Spoor, the Hacker of a Thousand Handles...)
Ryk E Spoor
"Airhead" doesn't quite describe Minmei; that's like saying that
it is "unfortunate" to be at ground zero of an atom bomb blast. Personally
I feel she would have been a perfect match for Groo the Wanderer. Except
that Groo would have found her to be too stupid. (Groo is, after all,
somewhat slow of mind.)
"You think that just because there are more of you that you have
me outnumbered! I will show you that you are wrong!" -- Groo
Sea Wasp
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lc...@linus.claremont.edu
Minmei's being a flirt I think is minor trait that made her annoying.
If being flirtatious is the criterion for the degree of annoyance, then I
would say that I find Dana Sterling in Southercross and Annie in Mosopeada even
more repulsive. To be honest, I don't particularly like Minmei in general, but
the character I really hate in the entire series would be Commander Leonard.
I think his stubborness creates an annoyance that simply outclassses Minmei's
annoyance. Nevertheless, not only can Minmei use a better voice, she can also
use more songs in her repertoire (the american version). What I don't
wunderstand is how someone can honestly say that she isn't good looking. I
must say, though, I find the Minmay character in Macorss'84 "Do you remember,
Love" to be less obnoxious to the viewer, because atlesast she got more mature.
God knows how many times I rewound the tape to see Hikaru giving her the nice
slap on the face. :-) Yeah...... !
Luke
Ryk E Spoor
Well, I just loathed her, that's all. I have here a marvelous
birthday card a friend gave me: "Minmei meets Breetai": showing the
little bimbo trying to run as steelface drops the boot on her...
Sea Wasp
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trouble that way!" -- **IMPACT**
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Best scene from Macross: Do You Remember Love :
(if I remember correctly)
Minmay: "As long as were together, I don't care if everyone else dies."
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And having the voice of Barbara Streisand coming out of a 16-year old girl
would have been ridiculous...
Ming Yau So
remember the poster in Hikaru's room, but if you disagree, please no
flame) is not that worse ! Even I think Misa would be a better wife for
Hikaru, I feel Hikaru will have more fun when he is with Minmay. Although
Minmay is a little bit self-center, but she is young, I think she will
change as she grow up. And don't you guys have forgotten the Minmay in
"Love, Do You Remember ?" ? I feel that Minmay is even more lovely. I
like Misa too, so I don't agree to most of the bad comments about her.
Although she's look a little bit maturer than Hikaru, I don't think she is
older than Hikaru, and she's pretty too. And even though she spends a lot
of time on her job, I think she's much care about Hikaru than her job,
especially after the destruction of Earth, she cleaned the house for
Hikaru, and care if Hikaru has her photos in his photo album or not,
remember ?
IMHO, Misa would be a better wife, and Minmay is a better fiancee. They
are different kind of women, but I think they are equally lovely !
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MEGAZONE 23
> Minmei had no redeeming features. She wasn't even as good-looking as
>Lisa. Her voice was passable, but the character was simply annoying. I was glad
>when she died.
Excuse me? Minmei never died. She was present until the End of the Circle.
Where did you get the idea that she died?
Ryk E Spoor
Last I knew she died (or vanished) after the second major sequence.
(no, I don't know the name of the sequence); it was the one after the first
SDF war. Later there was some kind of clone/simulation something that had
some of her properties, I heard, but I thought she was dead.
If she wasn't, she should have been.
Sea Wasp
Patrick Yip
and Robotech (the US version). I have never watched Robotech. But from my
memory of Macross, Minmei is NEVER an annoying character. Yes, she showed
girlish immaturity and sometimes self-centredness, but there are occasions
where she cared for others (and Hikaru especially). From my understanding,
I have NO DOUBT that: Hikaru once had Strong Affection towards Minmei and
to Minmei, Hikaru is her first-time lover. Both of them don't exactly know
whether they are really suitable to the other. But they had a lot of fun
when they were together, and such happiness overran all traces of mismatch
of their personalities.
However things changed when each of them took up new career as the war
proceeded. By chance or whatever reason, Minmei was no longer a stewardess
of a Chinese restaurant. She became Miss Macross and started her idol
singer career. Even after that, she didn't look down upon others. She
strived to keep her identity. But the work was just overwhelming (you have
to know that in Japan idol-singer has to appear in numerous TV,Radio programs
, concerts, public appearance... all arranged by the record company!) and
by mistakes or coincidences, she began to lose contact with Hikaru (Hikaru
started his pilot career too) and a gap of misunderstanding started to
develop between them. Minmei needed to oblige with the arrangement by the
company (yet she rebelled once to get in touch with Hikaru!) while Hikaru
had such an involuntary and unpredictable working timetable (being a soldier,
there's strict regulation of when he could leave the barracks too -- yet
he tried to sneak out to see Minmei, but the chance worked the wrong way..)
They were living in two totally different worlds and within it they
developed different attitudes and viewpoints to various things. And these,
added to any original mismatch of their personalities and the lack of
commuication, caused the final-breakup at the end.
As I see, the break-up did not happen until the very end (1-2 years after
the start of recontruction of the Earth). Hikaru and Minmei still retained
strong affection towards each other. And once Hikaru, going to a date with
Misa, saw Minmei and he felt so much for her that he ended up having a date
with Minmei! (Oh, Poor Misa, waiting in a cafe for hours...) And Minmei handed
him a scarf knitted by her (with her name on it)....
Misa is maturer than Minmei. There's no doubt about that. She happened to
be an introspective person with a strong appearance outside. People around
feared her for her strong and disinterested attitude. But Hikaru, because
of several occasions, managed to break into her inner-self. Although initially
Hikaru hated Misa (he said that she lack in private emotion and passion --
a strong contrast to Minmei who expressed her feeling quite freely and openly)
he began to like her after some adventures with her (The Mars rescue mission,
the spying mission to the enemy base..). And he began to find how much care
she needed and how much care she gave others behind her superficially strong
appearance. And the military action and planning provided many opportunities
for them to communicate and understand each other. They rely on each other
in many operations.... and Minmei gradually found it difficult to understand
Hikaru as a soldier...
I think what Hikaru said to Minmei when he finally decided to choose Misa
should conclude the whole matter. He said something like, "Without me,
Misa has nothing else, but you still have your songs (singing)"
Misa is actually weak in herself and she needed somebody's care, especially
Hikaru's when she decided he was to be her companion-for-life (yer, she
is traditional in lover-affair) Minmei, while maybe a bit self-centred,
was stronger and resilient. Hikaru, after much indecision, finally concluded
that the triangle is best solved by dropping Minmei. I understand his
decision, after all the things happened in the past.
If things did not happen in that way, I'm not sure who will be more suitable
to Hikaru. Imagine Hikaru was never a soldier (it's possible since he was
unsure of himself when he registered with the recruitment)...
I like both the characters of Misa and Minmei, with no significant perference.
And I think both of them deserved respect as they both have nice characters.
Judging from the discussions raging around, I would demand some more justice
for Minmei.
It's a different matter in the movie. It seems that Hikaru, while getting
along well with Minmei, dumped her when by accident he had to live with
Misa on the devastated Earth. I see no reason of Hikaru's forgetting Minmei
while she was in enemy's hand!! I really hate Hikaru when he showed no
passion to Minmei after he and Misa were rescued back to Macross!!
If Robotech tells a different story from what I said (Macross the TV),
then I'd say the butchering and editing did distort the original story
very much. (And I won't like to see it)
Patrick
Oxford, England
Doctor Stomper
>
> Minmei had no redeeming features. She wasn't even as good-looking as
> Lisa. Her voice was passable, but the character was simply annoying. I was glad
> when she died.
Minmei bit the bag?!? When?!? (And why wasn't I told, I wanted to see
it happen! :)
> In all fairness to the american casting, in order to justify the effect
> that Minmei was supposed to have with her singing, only Barbra Streisand could
> have done it justice, and she would be unbelievably expensive (even assuming
> she'd do it at all...)
>
>
> Sea Wasp
> (Ryk E. Spoor, the Hacker of a Thousand Handles...)
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I was misinformed. Minmei didn't bite the big one. UNfortunately.
I had become confused with several plotlines. Megazone 23 was originally
conceived as a sequel to Macross and Eve (the computer-propaganda simulation)
was supposed to be a download of Minmei after she popped off. Too bad.
I wish she DID die. I have another birthday card where she was offed by
strapping her across the mouth of the wave-motion gun from... Was it
Yamato? I think so...
Sea Wasp
msch...@eagle.wesleyan.edu
In an earlier note, someone said that Rick made a big mistake
marrying Lisa, who is married to her work, rather than Minmei, who would have
been more exciting.
Well, there are several problems with Rick and Minmei getting together.
First of all, Rick would have had to give up flying, and Minmei singing.
Considering that for each, it is their live's passion to do each, neither would
ever have been happy together. Plus, without Rick's guidance, the SDF-3
project probably would have never gotten off the ground, and the Invid would
rule the galaxy, while humans would be exterminated. Not a good move, in my
opinion.
Plus, I'd like to ask if you've read the Sentinels? In some ways, in
there we discover that Rick is probably married to his work even MORE so than
Lisa is. (in fact, I seem to remember little Dana mentioning something to this
effect at the beginning of the Sentinels) We also see that Lisa can be a
rather, well, er, um, shall we say, passionate person, possibly even more so
than Minmei would ever have been. And I dare anyone to say that Rick and Lisa
did not have an exciting time of it out on the other end of the galaxy. And
perhaps most important of all, Rick was HAPPY with Lisa, even after the wars
were over (they settled down for a while and had a son, Roy). (well, okay -
they were between wars then) Perhaps Minmei might have been exciting, but I
can't see either of them being happy over the long run. They weren't a good
match.
And FINALLY, to close this off, let me point out the fact that ALL
THREE decided that this was the best way.
Well, to all those who wish, flame on!
Matt Schmitt
msch...@eagle.wesleyan.edu
William Richard Russell
>
>It's a different matter in the movie. It seems that Hikaru, while getting
>along well with Minmei, dumped her when by accident he had to live with
>Misa on the devastated Earth. I see no reason of Hikaru's forgetting Minmei
>while she was in enemy's hand!! I really hate Hikaru when he showed no
>passion to Minmei after he and Misa were rescued back to Macross!!
>
As I remember the movie, Hikaru and Minmei were only involved with each other
because they got stuck in a sealed bunkhead for a few days. It appeared that
they only went on a couple of dates after that: the romp-around-town and the
ill-fated flight to the rings of Saturn.
While Hikaru's relationship with Minmei was much deeper in the TV show, in the
movie their relationship barely got past the teenage infatuation stage. How
much "passion" (or was that "compassion") could Hikaru be expected to show her?
He was already in love with Misa, and he knew it.
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>As I remember the movie, Hikaru and Minmei were only involved with each other
>because they got stuck in a sealed bunkhead for a few days. It appeared that
>they only went on a couple of dates after that: the romp-around-town and the
>ill-fated flight to the rings of Saturn.
You can't tell how close they are after that...
(or how much Minmei was devoted to Hikaru after the bunkhead days..)
>While Hikaru's relationship with Minmei was much deeper in the TV show, in the
>movie their relationship barely got past the teenage infatuation stage. How
>much "passion"(or was that "compassion") could Hikaru be expected to show her?
>He was already in love with Misa, and he knew it.
The fact is: Hikaru suggested taking Minmei to a flight and they fell into
the enemy's hand. Hikaru and Misa managed to escape, but failed to rescue
Minmei. On Earth Hikaru never showed any worry or regret or remorse or saddness
to what happened. But for the surrender of some enemies, Minmei might have
been a sample in laboratory! Can't Hikaru show some feelings towards
Minmei ? He forgot Minmei and developed romance with another woman: Misa!
(Unlike TV the movie never indicated clearly why Hikaru loved Misa)
Back on Macross, when Hikaru saw all those posters and videos airing of
Minmei, he just said sth. like "Even though she's no longer here, her
image still persists". What a cold comment!
Yet on the ceremony to celebrate Hikaru and Misa's return, Hikaru showed
unreasonable coldness when he saw Minmei was in fact safe! This contrasted
deeply to the tremendous overjoy showed by Minmei (as she found Hikaru was safe
too!) What a shameful contrast!!
I agreed that Hikaru was already in love with Misa at that time. But
don't you think Hikaru was too cold in the whole matter towards Minmei?
(He was nice when they had fun in the dates, but then?)
Patrick
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>In article <15...@culhua.prg.ox.ac.uk> p...@robots.oxford.ac.uk (Patrick Yip) writes:
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>>the enemy's hand. Hikaru and Misa managed to escape, but failed to rescue
>>Minmei. On Earth Hikaru never showed any worry or regret or remorse or saddness
>>to what happened. But for the surrender of some enemies, Minmei might have
>>been a sample in laboratory! Can't Hikaru show some feelings towards
>>Minmei ? He forgot Minmei and developed romance with another woman: Misa!
Hikaru is very "Bushido." He's sort of a mix between a modern
young man and a classic Japanese Samurai warrior in this movie.
In the TV version he was more the modern young man and was strongly
contrasted to Roy's semi-Japanese/semi-Western Bushido personality.
You might want to read the Musashi books by Yoshioka and a new
SF book called "On My Way To Paradise" to get some grounding in
the rather strange anomalies in the Bushido character and how it
it appears to westerners. In truth, you can only guess whether
Hikaru felt little or great loss regarding Minmei. Either way
it would only be proper to show "deference" for her. I prefer to
believe that he felt considerable loss, but was consoled by the
fact that he had settled his love on Misa.
>>Back on Macross, when Hikaru saw all those posters and videos airing of
>>Minmei, he just said sth. like "Even though she's no longer here, her
>>image still persists". What a cold comment!
I dunno. Even aside from Bushido, you might want to be careful
about reading such nuances into a translation.
>>Yet on the ceremony to celebrate Hikaru and Misa's return, Hikaru showed
>>unreasonable coldness when he saw Minmei was in fact safe! This contrasted
>>deeply to the tremendous overjoy showed by Minmei (as she found Hikaru was safe
>>too!) What a shameful contrast!!
Hard to say. He was in a very bad position. I don't think
Bushido prepared him for it. But his reaction was, overall "proper."
The warrior does not display love easily in public even if his
relationship with Misa had not occurred. The fact that he had
commenced a serious relationship with Misa made this easier and worse.
>Upon their return to the Macross, what is Hikaru to do? Minmei's actions
>confirm his worst fear; Minmei may truly love him, but he cannot return her
>love because of his commitment to Misa.
>
>Now I'm no student of conversational Japanese, so let's take another look at
>the translation:
>: HIKARU
>: (Staring at the video)
>:
>: Minmay . . .
>:
>: SONG LYRICS
>:
>: If you're not coming,
>: I wonder who I'll want to dance with . . .
>:
>:
>: MISA
>:
>: It's strange, isn't it? Minmay is somewhere so far away,
>: and yet we can still hear . . .
>:
>: HIKARU
>:
>: Her songs . . .
>:
>: MISA
>:
>: As though she were still alive.
>:
>: HIKARU
>:
>: I somehow miss those days. It's only been a month since the
>: time I took her out into space, but it seems as if it was
>: such a long time ago.
>
>This is a little less than "unreasonable coldness"...
>
>Now, Hikaru's reaction on Minmei's return is something of a mystery. Why was
>the photo circus arranged for the press in the first place? Why didn't
>Hikaru just explain himself to Minmei in private? Well, who can say.
The "photo circus" was not the choice of Hikaru and Misa. In fact,
I think the whole thing probably happened too quickly for Hikaru to
meet with Minmay in advance. I'm not even sure exactly what the sequence
of events was now. I thought that Hikaru and Misa still thought that
Minmay was dead up until they saw her on stage.
>Anyway, I don't think Hikaru was quite the reprehensible character that some
>might make him out to be...
--
Jim Omura, 2A King George's Drive, Toronto, (416) 652-3880
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Mitsuhiro Sakai
>young man and a classic Japanese Samurai warrior in this movie.
>In the TV version he was more the modern young man and was strongly
>contrasted to Roy's semi-Japanese/semi-Western Bushido personality.
>You might want to read the Musashi books by Yoshioka and a new
There is NO Bushido in modern Japan, in Macross, and in Hikaru Ichijo.
He is only ordinaly shy Japanese boy who likes to fly by a plane.
And Roy is an Western professional in the view of Japanese.
There is only one person who has Samurai like character is Britai of Zentrady.
Anyway, I repeat to say, there is NO SAMURAI in Modern Japanese drama without
a some sort of comedy.
Samurai was strange creature lived from 13C(maybe) to 19C. And so-called Bushido
was completed in 17C(it was peaseful age after long war time.), and it was
quite spiritual thing to support identity of warrior(Samurai) in peaseful time.
Samurai was a sort of a noble as same as knight, and changed name Shizoku 100
years ago, then disappeared over 40 years ago after WW II.
Mitsuhiro Sakai
sa...@rana.usc.edu