[SPOILER] Evangelion
Donny Chan
Ep 9-12.
In and after Ep 9, the BGMs are finally more conspicuous.
We (my friends and I) still think the mecha designs (Angels) are ugly.
I wonder who's more popular at Shinji's school: Asuka or Misato?
(Hey, I want some Asuka photos too.) The last time Misato went to the
school, all the male students were crowded at the windows.
(Reminds me of, er, something that once happened at my LSC in
Hong Kong.)
They didn't show how the EVA-01 and EVA-02 ended up
half-buried feet-up in the ground and in the sea? Or how they
extracted the cockpits from underground and underwater, and thus
Asuka and Shinji (the images on the screens were labelled "15:42"
and "LIVE," so the EVAs' heads and necks should be in the ground
when they dug out Asuka and Shinji). Instead of construction
vehicles, Rei's EVA-00 could've pulled out the two EVAs. Maybe it's
too far from Tokyo-3, and Nerv doesn't have a long enough extension cord.
Despite the limited capabilities of the prototype Evangelion
EVA-00, why don't they choose Rei, instead of Asuka, as Shinji's
partner? Rei's obviously more compatible with Shinji than Rei.
(We're beginning to call Rei "Android Rei," after the Android
Mami ("An-chan" to the human Mami-chan) in Sotsugyou: Seira Victory.)
In "Magmadiver," Shinji should've let Asuka die!
Can some female Eva fan explain why Kaji is so attractive to
Asuka, Misato, _and_ Ritsuko?
Gendou's usual pose (sitting at his station in the NERV control
centre, with his arms propped up on the desktop and fingers laced in
front of his nose) is becoming as characteristic as Bright Noah's
[Gundam:TOS] usual pose (sitting at his station in the bridge of the
White Base, with his head tilted to one side, and speaking into his phone).
Misato changed the brand of beer she drinks to BOA in Ep 10. She
was at the First Impact, in Antarctica, 15 years ago in 2000 AD. She
has a scar between, er, on her chest. A friend joked maybe the 1st
Angel hit her with a Shoryuken.
Why did the characters stand in an empty train?
The 7th Angel exploded when it died, but none (or few?) of the
previous Angels exploded when they died.
The acid-dripping, spider-like Angel (forgot its number) sucks,
because the EVA-01's rifle actually penetrated it and kill it.
Will Asuka ever stop complaining about the Japanese lifestyle? (I
hope not.)
After the Angels struck Tokyo-3 so many times, its population
still aren't moving away by the trainloads?
Despite all the hi-tech equipment that NERV has, it doesn't have
a cleaning service or private washing machines for the NERV personnel?
Just checking: Comparing the JSDF ranks with the US armed forces,
is San-Sa a Major (O-4)?
The energy cage that the EVA-02 used to capture (X-COM
Abduction?) the Angel embryo: Is it Earthian technology, or is it
derived from the Angels' Absolute Terror Field (AT Field)?
Shouldn't the knife take longer than the EVA-02 to reach the
EVA-02's depth?
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Don "Die Asuka Die!" Chan
Keith Rhee
> Misato changed the brand of beer she drinks to BOA in Ep 10. She
>was at the First Impact, in Antarctica, 15 years ago in 2000 AD. She
>has a scar between, er, on her chest. A friend joked maybe the 1st
>Angel hit her with a Shoryuken.
Nitpick: that incident was known as the Second Impact. You should
know this had you paid attention to the teacher's lecture during
episode 3.
So what is the First Impact? The meteor strike that supposedly
wiped out the dinosaur species. Bear in mind that the UN covered
up the Second Impact incident as "a meteor strike" at the South
Pole, and this explanation makes sense.
> After the Angels struck Tokyo-3 so many times, its population
>still aren't moving away by the trainloads?
They talk about moving away in episode 2. But when you consider
it, Tokyo-3 may be the *safest* place in the long run. Built around
the fortress model, Tokyo-3 has the means to fend off an Angel attack,
something you can't say of most cities around the world. I believe
they make a reference to the populace of Tokyo-3 being "cowards,"
living in Tokyo-3 to enjoy the protection.
> Despite all the hi-tech equipment that NERV has, it doesn't have
>a cleaning service or private washing machines for the NERV personnel?
I guess they don't want to mess with your personal dirty laundry
(pun intended).
> The energy cage that the EVA-02 used to capture (X-COM
>Abduction?) the Angel embryo: Is it Earthian technology, or is it
>derived from the Angels' Absolute Terror Field (AT Field)?
I believe that humans haven't harnessed the AT Field technology yet.
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Donny Chan <donny...@canrem.com> wrote:
> - Shin Seiki EVANGELION; aka Neon Genesis Evangelion [Eva]. TV.
>Ep 9-12.
>vehicles, Rei's EVA-00 could've pulled out the two EVAs. Maybe it's
>too far from Tokyo-3, and Nerv doesn't have a long enough extension cord.
Eva 0 was uder repair from episode #6, and did not come back until
Episode 12.
> Despite the limited capabilities of the prototype Evangelion
>EVA-00, why don't they choose Rei, instead of Asuka, as Shinji's
>partner? Rei's obviously more compatible with Shinji than Rei.
You don't want Rei in any other Eva other than 0, and you don't
want others in Eva 0, period. (check later episodes)
Beside, a pattern was forming, I now honestly think Shinji and
Asuka will end up as a pair, Rei and Touji possibley.
> Can some female Eva fan explain why Kaji is so attractive to
>Asuka, Misato, _and_ Ritsuko?
Think about Ryo fo city hunter, Kaji is quite a capable person
when he is serious.
> Why did the characters stand in an empty train?
to show respect to a senior rank officer who are present.
> The 7th Angel exploded when it died, but none (or few?) of the
>previous Angels exploded when they died.
right off my mine the third Angels also self exploded.
> The acid-dripping, spider-like Angel (forgot its number) sucks,
>because the EVA-01's rifle actually penetrated it and kill it.
apparently while dripping acid, the ATF was not on.
> Despite all the hi-tech equipment that NERV has, it doesn't have
>a cleaning service or private washing machines for the NERV personnel?
does your company you work for also provide a laundary service?
don't think so, NERV is a military organ. laundary is civil stuffs.
> Just checking: Comparing the JSDF ranks with the US armed forces,
>is San-Sa a Major (O-4)?
a third Lt or Commander? US rank only has 0 and junior rank. (2)
> Shouldn't the knife take longer than the EVA-02 to reach the
>EVA-02's depth?
Eva 2 was going up.
Knife was "throw" down with a bigger kinnetic energy than Eva 2's
drifting down (by weight only, no velocity.)
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>donny...@canrem.com (Donny Chan) writes:
>> The energy cage that the EVA-02 used to capture (X-COM
>>Abduction?) the Angel embryo: Is it Earthian technology, or is it
>>derived from the Angels' Absolute Terror Field (AT Field)?
> I believe that humans haven't harnessed the AT Field technology yet.
Er, in the third ep, Misato tells Shinji to start by building up an AT
Field, then to destroy the Angel. Shinji instead goes back and does
his own "Aim. Pull Trigger" thingie... I think that the Eva units do
posess the ability to generate an ATF...
Enrique Conty
>You don't want Rei in any other Eva other than 0, and you don't
>want others in Eva 0, period. (check later episodes)
I see what you mean... (episode 14)
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Donny Chan <donny...@canrem.com> wrote:
>KU>From: k...@news.seattleu.edu (Chih-Ping Kuo)
>KU>Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
>KU>Subject: Re: [SPOILER] Evangelion
>KU>Date: 10 Feb 1996 15:51:05 -0800
>KU>Organization: onimal house
>
>> - Shin Seiki EVANGELION; aka Neon Genesis Evangelion [Eva]. TV.
>>Ep 9-12.
>
>>when they dug out Asuka and Shinji). Instead of construction
>>vehicles, Rei's EVA-00 could've pulled out the two EVAs. Maybe it's
>>too far from Tokyo-3, and Nerv doesn't have a long enough extension cord.
>
>KU>Episode 12.
>
>Strange. The damage control/repair teams were very fast in the earlier
>episodes.
What I'd like to know is how they got the kids out with the Evas
stuck upside down... BTW I think they had their power cords while
fighting (actually I don't recall).
>> Despite the limited capabilities of the prototype Evangelion
>>EVA-00, why don't they choose Rei, instead of Asuka, as Shinji's
>>partner? Rei's obviously more compatible with Shinji than Rei.
>
>KU>You don't want Rei in any other Eva other than 0, and you don't
>KU>want others in Eva 0, period. (check later episodes)
>
>The EVAs are pilot-specific then?
They can be programmed with each different pilot's data
(otherwise synchro doesn't work well). Shinji seemed to do ok without
program in the first and second eps. (but not spectacular or anything
^_^). Eva 0 is... different. Maybe it will work for Shinji now... I doubt
it. It seems to screw with anybody who gets into it for the first time,
but I could be wrong. Maybe it was Rei's fault.
>KU>Beside, a pattern was forming, I now honestly think Shinji and
>KU>Asuka will end up as a pair, Rei and Touji possibley.
>
>Touji?
Gaaah! I hope not. Besides the fact that I don't want Asuka
paired with anything but a ticking NN bomb, I think it would be better if
the pairing went: Asuka-Touji, Rei-Shinji.That way you'd at least get one
team that works well.
BTW Does it seem like the Angels have some kind of attraction for Shinji?
Is it explained at all later why Shinji saw Rei before he even
met her? It almost seems like they have some kind of mental connection.
-M.
Donny Chan
KU>Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
KU>Subject: Re: [SPOILER] Evangelion
KU>Date: 10 Feb 1996 15:51:05 -0800
KU>Organization: onimal house
> - Shin Seiki EVANGELION; aka Neon Genesis Evangelion [Eva]. TV.
>Ep 9-12.
>when they dug out Asuka and Shinji). Instead of construction
>vehicles, Rei's EVA-00 could've pulled out the two EVAs. Maybe it's
>too far from Tokyo-3, and Nerv doesn't have a long enough extension cord.
KU>Eva 0 was uder repair from episode #6, and did not come back until
KU>Episode 12.
Strange. The damage control/repair teams were very fast in the earlier
episodes.
> Despite the limited capabilities of the prototype Evangelion
>EVA-00, why don't they choose Rei, instead of Asuka, as Shinji's
>partner? Rei's obviously more compatible with Shinji than Rei.
KU>You don't want Rei in any other Eva other than 0, and you don't
KU>want others in Eva 0, period. (check later episodes)
The EVAs are pilot-specific then?
KU>Beside, a pattern was forming, I now honestly think Shinji and
KU>Asuka will end up as a pair, Rei and Touji possibley.
Touji?
> Just checking: Comparing the JSDF ranks with the US armed forces,
>is San-Sa a Major (O-4)?
KU>a third Lt or Commander? US rank only has 0 and junior rank. (2)
I think San-Sa is a "Third Colonel," the grade above "First Lieutenant."
What did you mean by "US rank only has 0 and junior rank. (2)"?
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They generate AT fields to block the Angel that drops out of the
sky in episode 12... Maybe they haven't harnessed it fully yet (if they
did, then why aren't they protecting the cities with it... then again, it
might be biologicaly based or something).
-M.
Donny Chan
Touji?
(Yes, I know there's no "Third Colonel" in the US armed forces, and I'm
familiar with the structure and Japanese names of the Japanese military
grades (the officers' anyway). In case you didn't know, "O-4" is the pay
grade.) What did you mean by "US rank only has 0 and junior rank. (2)"?
Chih-Ping Kuo
>>vehicles, Rei's EVA-00 could've pulled out the two EVAs. Maybe it's
>>too far from Tokyo-3, and Nerv doesn't have a long enough extension cord.
>KU>Eva 0 was uder repair from episode #6, and did not come back until
>KU>Episode 12.
>Strange. The damage control/repair teams were very fast in the earlier
>episodes.
Time between each episode is NOT fixed, there is a 2 weeks span
between episode #2 and #3, (Rei was well enough to come back to school)
read the script carefully, beside, it is their show, they can do what
they want, like taking Eva #0 out of the story for a long time, etc.
>> Just checking: Comparing the JSDF ranks with the US armed forces,
>>is San-Sa a Major (O-4)?
>KU>a third Lt or Commander? US rank only has 0 and junior rank. (2)
>I think San-Sa is a "Third Colonel," the grade above "First Lieutenant."
>What did you mean by "US rank only has 0 and junior rank. (2)"?
US navy rank goes two deep, private second class, first calss,
Lt. junior grade, Lt, Commander junior grade, commander, etc.
Colonel = Commander,
John Kwok
>
>Beside, a pattern was forming, I now honestly think Shinji and
>Asuka will end up as a pair, Rei and Touji possibley.
>
Can you say Oedipus? That's why this series is so sad, Rei and
Shinji can not end up as a pair... I'd like to see how the Gainax gods
resolve this..
M.R. Opel
cancel their AT Field with one of its own. This is the raison d'etre for the
Eva's, which are basically artificial Angels: quite possibly based on human
genes modified to be more similar to the "genetic" pattern of the First or
Second Angel. See the end of eps. 15 and 16 for some disturbing hints about
the relationship between Eva and Angel. I find this all to be a REALLY neat
justification for the use of a humanoid weapon - so much more satisfying than
the usual giant robot show handwaving about "greater flexability and mobility".
-Matt O.
New England Ayanami Rei Fan Club
NAM YUN
DC> Touji?
> Just checking: Comparing the JSDF ranks with the US armed forces,
>is San-Sa a Major (O-4)?
KU>a third Lt or Commander? US rank only has 0 and junior rank. (2)
DC> I think San-Sa is a "Third Colonel," the grade above "First
DC> Lieutenant." (Yes, I know there's no "Third Colonel" in the US armed
DC> forces, and I'm familiar with the structure and Japanese names of the
DC> Japanese military grades (the officers' anyway). In case you didn't
DC> know, "O-4" is the pay grade.) What did you mean by "US rank only has 0
DC> and junior rank. (2)"?
Who are we talking about here? The woman who drinks like a fish
(can't remember her name here) "O-4" here in the US would be "Major" for the
Army/Air Force/Marines and "Lieutenant Commander" in the Navy. A "Captain"
in the Navy equates to a bird (O-6) "Colonel" in the Army.
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2 when the misato and gang thought at first that 01 was absorbing the
field but then noticed that 01 was actually making one.
In article <4fkbl9$g...@emerald.oz.net> int...@oz.net (Thane Walkup) writes:
>qua...@netcom.com (Keith Rhee) wrote:
>
>>donny...@canrem.com (Donny Chan) writes:
>
>>> The energy cage that the EVA-02 used to capture (X-COM
>>>Abduction?) the Angel embryo: Is it Earthian technology, or is it
>>>derived from the Angels' Absolute Terror Field (AT Field)?
>
>
>Er, in the third ep, Misato tells Shinji to start by building up an AT
>Field, then to destroy the Angel. Shinji instead goes back and does
>his own "Aim. Pull Trigger" thingie... I think that the Eva units do
>posess the ability to generate an ATF...
>
>.
M.R. Opel
>It seems that only 01 is able to make the AT field. Recall ep
>2 when the misato and gang thought at first that 01 was absorbing the
>field but then noticed that 01 was actually making one.
their own out of phase with the Angels'
-matt
Christof Weber
Aaah, question (probably dumb...) why is it then that they only use
Shinji's EVA to create the AT field in Eps. 12 (the one with the Angel
dropping to Earth (was it 12 ?)), and why can Shinji's EVA dive into the
magma without taking damage whereas Asuka and 02 need a special
protection suit ?
sayonara,
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Donny Chan
- Shin Seiki Evangelion [Eva]. TV. Ep 13-16.
It'll be a hot day in Hades when Souryuu Asuka Langley doesn't
behave arrogantly, or gripe about Japanese life.
Misato returns to the initial brand of beer.
Shinji's being sent to the hospital so often they should give him
volume discounts. 8)
Gendou's second-in-command (Kouzou?) is like Spock. He's always
right behind Gendou.
The 11th Angel shows the Angels don't have to be giant monsters.
They can be biological computer viruses, glow in the dark, and still
have AT Fields.
The quirk that distinguishes the Angel that Shinji first
killed from the other exploding Angels is that Angel's explosion
is cross-shaped.
Lots of Post-It notes in the computer core.
Ep 14 is mostly flashbacks. Saves lots of new animations, but not
voice-overs.
Ep 15 is another slow episode of character developments and plot
advancements. Again, saves some new animations.
Does anyone have a transcript (in English or Nihongo) of Rei's
poetic monologue about dehumanisation, or of the radio programme? 8)
Does EVA-00 hate Gendou and Rei?
No ED song since Ep 15, but instrumental ED music. [960218]
Enrique Conty
>
> Shinji's being sent to the hospital so often they should give him
>volume discounts. 8)
That's the upside about working at NERV: a benefits package you won't
believe!
> Gendou's second-in-command (Kouzou?) is like Spock. He's always
>right behind Gendou.
Fuyutsuki is the kind of man who has seen everything. Therefore, it
takes a *lot* to faze him.
> The 11th Angel shows the Angels don't have to be giant monsters.
>They can be biological computer viruses, glow in the dark, and still
>have AT Fields.
> The quirk that distinguishes the Angel that Shinji first
>killed from the other exploding Angels is that Angel's explosion
>is cross-shaped.
But he also had a weapon which generated cross-shaped bursts. The angel
self-destructed, perhaps with that very same weapon.
> Ep 14 is mostly flashbacks. Saves lots of new animations, but not
>voice-overs.
What about Rei's poem? As far as I'm concerned, that made the episode
all by itself.
> Does anyone have a transcript (in English or Nihongo) of Rei's
>poetic monologue about dehumanisation, or of the radio programme? 8)
Here we go, adapted from Wada-kun's scripts...
Mountain. Mountain is Heavy.
The thing that changes through a long time.
Sky. Blue sky. The thing visible, the thing invisible.
Sun. The thing unique.
Water. The thing agreeable. Commander Ikari.
Flowers. Many things alike. Many things useless.
Sky. Red. Red sky. Red colour. Red colour that I hate.
Water flow. Blood. the smell of blood. a woman that does not blood.
Made from red soil is a human.
Made by a man and a woman is a human.
Town. The thing that humans made.
Eva. The thing that humans made.
WHat is a human? The thing that God made.
Human is the thing that humans made.
The things that I own are life and mind.
The vessel of the mind. Entry plug, the throne of the soul.
Who is this? This is I.
Who am I? What am I? What am I? What am I? What am I?
I am myself. This object is I. The figure that forms me.
I visible, though feel as if I were not I. Funny impression.
My body seems like it's melting.
I don't see myself. My figure is fading away.
I am aware of someone else.
Who is there in front of me?
Ikari-kun.
I know this guy. Sansa Katsuragi.
Dr. Akagi.
People, my classmates.
Pilot of unit two.
Commander Ikari.
Who are you?
Who are you?
Who are you?
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>Fuyutsuki is the kind of man who has seen everything. Therefore, it
>takes a *lot* to faze him.
The birth of NERV is told by Fuyutsuki in the episode 21.
>Here we go, adapted from Wada-kun's scripts...
Excuse me, it's my script (^^;
I will revise soon. Sorry for awkward translation.
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Enrique Conty
>In article <4h51e3$k...@newdelph.cig.mot.com> co...@rtsg.mot.com (Enrique Conty) writes:
>>Fuyutsuki is the kind of man who has seen everything. Therefore, it
>>takes a *lot* to faze him.
>The birth of NERV is told by Fuyutsuki in the episode 21.
Saw it. Interesting episode!
>>Here we go, adapted from Wada-kun's scripts...
>
>Excuse me, it's my script (^^;
Whoops! Gomen, gomen, gomenasai... ^_^;;;;;
I'll have some general comments on 18-21 later.
I do agree that EVA 19 was "too much" for TV.