[Report] Anime America 95 tid-bits
Enrique Conty
>
>>- AA96 will still be holded in Red Lion Inn at late July 96.
>Thank God! I hope Expo and AA never occur on consecutive weekends again!
Why not?
BTW, the reason why AA moved is because next year AX and the SDCC will be
on consecutive weekends (SDCC = San Diego Comicon, the largest comics con
in the United States).
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Mike Tatsugawa
>Enrique Conty (co...@rtsg.mot.com) wrote:
>
>: BTW, the reason why AA moved is because next year AX and the SDCC will be
>: on consecutive weekends (SDCC = San Diego Comicon, the largest comics con
>: in the United States).
>
>and SDCC in consecutive weekends. Mainly because I may spend most of the
>money in AX already, then I will not have money for SDCC.
That's a new spin, AX might hurt SDCC...
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Tony Yip
>In article <3tt8e7$s...@agate.berkeley.edu> hu...@OCF.Berkeley.EDU (Hugo Wang) writes:
>>>- AA96 will still be holded in Red Lion Inn at late July 96.
>>Thank God! I hope Expo and AA never occur on consecutive weekends again!
>Why not?
>on consecutive weekends (SDCC = San Diego Comicon, the largest comics con
>in the United States).
That's fantastic! I've never been to SDCC and will hopefully spend another
week off awaiting the other con to happen! Too bad AnAm is about 3 weeks off,
I might have to miss that as I don't wanna party a whole month in California!
@.@
Tony
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Freddy Chan
: BTW, the reason why AA moved is because next year AX and the SDCC will be
: on consecutive weekends (SDCC = San Diego Comicon, the largest comics con
: in the United States).
As a Southern California's resident, it is not good to have AX
and SDCC in consecutive weekends. Mainly because I may spend most of the
money in AX already, then I will not have money for SDCC.
Freddy
Mark L. Neidengard
Ming Yau So <min...@netcom.com> wrote:
>Ok, folks, here are more tid-bits from AA95...
>
>- CPM was there this year and holds a panel. I must say I was impressed by
> the gentlement from CPM (can't remember his name) at the panel -- he is
> not an anime fan, but he patiently listens and explains to the fans about
> CPM release questions, AND he did jot down the fans' suggestions. One of
> the suggestion is liner notes, and after he listened to some of the
> suggestions and reasons, it seems that there may be some chances that CPM
> will do liner notes in some of release in the future. One bad news is
> Lodoss fans won't see the Lodoss LD release in at least another year,
> because in the current package deal between CPM and Image, Lodoss was not
> in the deal, and the deal will not be renewed until next year :(
Drat! Well, I guess I can wait (what, with all the other stuff on my
shopping list...)
>- In the A.D.Vision panel, Matt Greenfield still pretty insisted on the idea
> that DVD will replace LD very soon in the consumers market. Hence, he
> said the ADV will probably only releasing LD in a very slow pace :( (I
> guess either the survey don't help much).
Oh gawd...I could think of better reasons to slow down releasing of LD's...
all I'll say is that I "respectfully disagree" with his assessment of DVD. I
guess we'll just have to wait and see...
>- Software Sculptors has licensed the Slayers TV series -- but just the first
> 13 episodes. They said they will based on the sales to see if they are
> going to license more. The rep. also that they will first sub the series,
> then dub it, and then release LD (if promising), so they won't be releasing
> any LD for at least another year.
Again, I guess I can wait...
>- AnimEigo still has no plan for making any UY OVA LD :(
Aigh.
>
>- Most of dealers are selling SM CDs this year, and original CDs are almost
> nowhere to be found (except Miakdo). The Con staffs said that they cannot
> asked the delears to remove those SM CDs 'cause they cannot prove that
> those are really bootleg stuffs.
The thing that was always a little unclear to me was whether or not SM was
actually a commercial company with a business license and all, or if it was
truly pirate. I think it's reasonably clear that at least some of their titles
at least _were_ bootlegged; does anyone know if they've gotten the license to
"second-source" any of their offerings legitimately?
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: The thing that was always a little unclear to me was whether or not SM was
: actually a commercial company with a business license and all, or if it was
: truly pirate. I think it's reasonably clear that at least some of their titles
: at least _were_ bootlegged; does anyone know if they've gotten the license to
: "second-source" any of their offerings legitimately?
Well, my friend who was vacationing in Taiwan called me up a few days
ago. He said that after talking to his friend over there, it is true that
SM do pirate the CDs. They're however, legal in Taiwan--SM is soo big
that even the Taiwanese gov't. proctects it. However, once you bring the
SM stuff out of Taiwan, it's not legal anymore..
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Ming Yau So
- There are less fansub video shown this year, and is limited to the fan
programming room (as opposed to both video room last year), the 2 video
room only show pro stuff.
- CPM was there this year and holds a panel. I must say I was impressed by
the gentlement from CPM (can't remember his name) at the panel -- he is
not an anime fan, but he patiently listens and explains to the fans about
CPM release questions, AND he did jot down the fans' suggestions. One of
the suggestion is liner notes, and after he listened to some of the
suggestions and reasons, it seems that there may be some chances that CPM
will do liner notes in some of release in the future. One bad news is
Lodoss fans won't see the Lodoss LD release in at least another year,
because in the current package deal between CPM and Image, Lodoss was not
in the deal, and the deal will not be renewed until next year :(
- In the A.D.Vision panel, Matt Greenfield still pretty insisted on the idea
that DVD will replace LD very soon in the consumers market. Hence, he
said the ADV will probably only releasing LD in a very slow pace :( (I
guess either the survey don't help much).
- Software Sculptors has licensed the Slayers TV series -- but just the first
13 episodes. They said they will based on the sales to see if they are
going to license more. The rep. also that they will first sub the series,
then dub it, and then release LD (if promising), so they won't be releasing
any LD for at least another year.
- AnimEigo still has no plan for making any UY OVA LD :(
- People of JAILED (Lopa, Matt, etc.) said that JAILED is solely aimed at
bootleggers, not fans. Matt said that as long as no money changing hand,
they don't consider it as bootlegging. They said if you are going to
charge for anything that contains licensed anime stuffs, you'd better
contact JAILED first.
- Most of dealers are selling SM CDs this year, and original CDs are almost
nowhere to be found (except Miakdo). The Con staffs said that they cannot
asked the delears to remove those SM CDs 'cause they cannot prove that
those are really bootleg stuffs.
- AnimeUK will be renaming to AnimeFX from the next issue, it's because they
wanted to be viewed as an anime magazine for the whole english speaking
world instead of just UK. The will have a corresponding office in US very
soon.
- AA96 will still be holded in Red Lion Inn at late July 96.
That's all for now, folks.
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YohkoMano
min...@netcom.com (Ming Yau So) wrote:
> In the A.D.Vision panel, Matt Greenfield still pretty insisted on the
idea
> that DVD will replace LD very soon in the consumers market. Hence, he
> said the ADV will probably only releasing LD in a very slow pace :( (I
> guess either the survey don't help much).
LDs will be replaced by a different format, but the laserdisc market will
still rule for a good number of years to come as the new competing formats
battle it out and a decent base of software builds up
I find it very funny that ADV says that they will probably start
releasing LDs at a slower pace. As if their pace could get any slower! I
like ADV, but their LD selection and release rates have always been pretty
sad. I bought Devil Hunter Yohko episode one on LD hoping the following
episodes would follow quickly. Nope. When I asked if they had plans to
release the entire series on LD, depending on who you spoke with, either
they weren't sure or said no. How about Nuku Nuku on LD? Nope. The new
Mamono Hunter Yohko^2 series on LD? Nope. Oh well. Japanese originals
it is, I guess. I'll just rent the ADV versions to understand the parts I
couldn't.
Sometimes it's tough being a anime fan and owning a laserdisc player. ^_^
YohkoMano
John A. Kilpatrick
>- In the A.D.Vision panel, Matt Greenfield still pretty insisted on the idea
> that DVD will replace LD very soon in the consumers market. Hence, he
> said the ADV will probably only releasing LD in a very slow pace :( (I
> guess either the survey don't help much).
Is it me or does this just seem like a cop out because they don't want to go to
the hassle of LDs? Come on, DVD will take 5 years AT LEAST to gain a foothold.
For those who say otherwise: do YOU have a Sony MiniDisc yet?
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> nowhere to be found (except Miakdo). The Con staffs said that they cannot
> asked the delears to remove those SM CDs 'cause they cannot prove that
> those are really bootleg stuffs.
Well, I guess it's because legitimate CD prices have gone out of control.
>- AA96 will still be holded in Red Lion Inn at late July 96.
Thank God! I hope Expo and AA never occur on consecutive weekends again!
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> In article <3tt8e7$s...@agate.berkeley.edu> hu...@OCF.Berkeley.EDU (Hugo Wang)
> >
> >>- AA96 will still be holded in Red Lion Inn at late July 96.
> >Thank God! I hope Expo and AA never occur on consecutive weekends again!
>
> Why not?
>
> BTW, the reason why AA moved is because next year AX and the SDCC will be
> on consecutive weekends (SDCC = San Diego Comicon, the largest comics con
> in the United States).
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> Enrique Conty
> co...@cig.mot.com
NOPE! sorry Conte, but you are WRONG...... AnAm moved from the
last weekend in July because........SDCC falls on that weekend this year.
AnAm did not wish to put the Fans in a position of having to decide which
to attend. Did anyone notice that Expo has done the same thing for next
year??? The folks at Expo are also trying to accomidate Fandom.....Kudos
to them, alas I know that it is quite a disruption to the Staff to do so
but we are here for YOU the Fans......
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Ming Yau So
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>The thing that was always a little unclear to me was whether or not SM was
>actually a commercial company with a business license and all, or if it was
>truly pirate. I think it's reasonably clear that at least some of their titles
>at least _were_ bootlegged; does anyone know if they've gotten the license to
>"second-source" any of their offerings legitimately?
Actually it's pretty easy to see that those SM CDs are bootleg. Just take any
SM CD and try to find any licensing or copyright information, you won't find
any. If they are really licensed products (even only in Taiwan), they must
print all those info to at least protect themselves. Second, just think about
it, can a single company in Taiwan license almost all of the anime CDs from
that many different Japanes companies ? And when the Japanese are so worry
about grey market imports, would they allow the the companies who licensed
from them making CDs that is almost identical to the Japanese release ? Yes,
it pretty hard to prove them they are bootleg since they are not made inside
US, but, if you use some common sense, it's not hard to see this fact.
Todd P. Whitesel
> NOPE! sorry Conte, but you are WRONG...... AnAm moved from the
>last weekend in July because........SDCC falls on that weekend this year.
>AnAm did not wish to put the Fans in a position of having to decide which
>to attend. Did anyone notice that Expo has done the same thing for next
>year???
The way Conty worded it was obscure, but that's not far off from what he said.
The point is: SDCC is bumping both AnAm and AX from their traditional
weekends -- first AnAm, then AX. Both Anime conventions know that it
is suicide to go up against SDCC on its chosen weekend; you don't need
a gushy respect for the fans' vacation planning to figure that out.
Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ ugcs.caltech.edu
Profess'nal Agitator
Except that AA doesn't exactly have a "traditional weekend". One year
does not a tradition make. AA moves back to late July in '96, but
Comic Con will almost assuredly be back to *its* traditional weekend
in early August in '97. Then, where does AA go?
AA almost has a no-win situation. The further they move away from
Expo, the closer they get to Comic Con. I'd almost think that *after*
Comic Con, say the third week of August, might be their best option.
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>>AA almost has a no-win situation. The further they move away from
>Expo, the closer they get to Comic Con. I'd almost think that *after*
>Comic Con, say the third week of August, might be their best option.
Sure, right up against our friends in PA. (Otakon). Then again, that
happened last year too.
Steve
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> AA almost has a no-win situation. The further they move away from
> Expo, the closer they get to Comic Con. I'd almost think that *after*
> Comic Con, say the third week of August, might be their best option.
>
Depends on whether you consider the World Science Fiction Convention to
be a convention against which you do not want to schedule your con.
Worldcon is usually over Labor Day.
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>- AA96 will still be holded in Red Lion Inn at late July 96.
available? Some of us are early planners... ^_^
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Ryan P. Gavigan
>min...@netcom.com (Ming Yau So) writes:
>
>>- In the A.D.Vision panel, Matt Greenfield still pretty insisted on the idea
>> that DVD will replace LD very soon in the consumers market. Hence, he
>> said the ADV will probably only releasing LD in a very slow pace :( (I
>> guess either the survey don't help much).
>
>Is it me or does this just seem like a cop out because they don't want to go to
>the hassle of LDs? Come on, DVD will take 5 years AT LEAST to gain a foothold.
>
the status of LD...not damn much in the consumer electronics market, what
1-2% penetration?...
>For those who say otherwise: do YOU have a Sony MiniDisc yet?
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Sony's attempt using a too expensice (compared to current CD tech) piece
of equipment, that they managed about as well as Beta :P...
I have a feeling this falls release of the PlayStation will have some
bearing on Sony's ability to get a 'new' format sold..and may prelude
their strategies about DVD...
oh , wasn't it mentioned that current plans are the DVD combo players
would be backward compatible to play LD?...
ryan gavigan
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Mark A Biggar
>>- AA96 will still be holded in Red Lion Inn at late July 96.
Well they had little choice this year. At AA94 they announced that AA95
would be the LAST weekend in July (i.e. the 27-30) only to discover later
that the San Diego Comic Con was going to be the same weekend, OOPS.
Can you say "no one showed up", I knew you could. It then turned out
that the only choices left at the planed venue (The Red Lion) were jul 6-9
or delay it until sometime in September. Hopefully they won't make
that mistake again.
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Jerry Shaw
>AA almost has a no-win situation. The further they move away from
>Expo, the closer they get to Comic Con. I'd almost think that *after*
>Comic Con, say the third week of August, might be their best option.
The best would be for either of the two California cons to move into a
completely different part of the year, such as during Spring break time.
It would also be best if both cons avoided the July 4th holiday, as the
Westercon regional Science Fiction convention has been on this holiday for
more years than Anime fandom has been in existance.
Jerry
Mike Tatsugawa
Profess'nal Agitator <agit...@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> wrote:
>In article <3u36ul$h...@raven.cybercomm.net>, Steve Pearl <star...@raven.cybercomm.net> wrote:
>>agit...@kaiwan.kaiwan.com (Profess'nal Agitator) writes:
>>>Expo, the closer they get to Comic Con. I'd almost think that *after*
>>>Comic Con, say the third week of August, might be their best option.
>>Sure, right up against our friends in PA. (Otakon). Then again, that
>>happened last year too.
>Not exactly. I was thinking midway between Comic Con and Labor Day.
>I doubt AA would want to be exactly on Labor Day (which would be the
>OtaKon crash you're referring to) since I think there's an SF con in
>SF then.
Actually, WorldCon in 1996 will be in the Anaheim Marriott, same home
as AX.
Profess'nal Agitator
>agit...@kaiwan.kaiwan.com (Profess'nal Agitator) writes:
>> AA almost has a no-win situation. The further they move away from
>>Expo, the closer they get to Comic Con. I'd almost think that *after*
>>Comic Con, say the third week of August, might be their best option.
>Sure, right up against our friends in PA. (Otakon). Then again, that
>happened last year too.
Not exactly. I was thinking midway between Comic Con and Labor Day.
I doubt AA would want to be exactly on Labor Day (which would be the
OtaKon crash you're referring to) since I think there's an SF con in
SF then.
But, then I don't plan these things, so this is all just theory anyhow.
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