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Chayya Chan
They have fought several times; Akane is no match for Shampoo.
Shampoo is definitively shown to be stronger than Akane, as
well as more skilled. Akane only defeats her temporarily due
to the "Goriki soba" she accidentally ate, which for a while gave
her enough power to trivially defeat Ranma.
Under normal circumstances, it's no contest.
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When Shampoo comes back after falling in the Maoniichuan, she beats Akane
in a fight. Apparently Shampoo is extremely fast, whereas Akane's style
emphasizes strength (as you say). Akane doesn't get a chance to hit her before
Shampoo uses her special hair-washing technique...but that's another story. :)
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And if raw strength and skill weren't enough, Akane could always cook supper
for Shampoo 8^)
Rell Ambrose
Also, Akane doesn't understand the value of defense, and relies on all-out
attack a little too much. Akane would hurt Shampoo more than Shampoo
would hurt her on any given blow, but Shampoo would land more blows.
If Shampoo had room to move, and wasn't overconfident, she would win.
In tight quarters, Akane would pound Shampoo into the ground.
But, if both combatants were allowed to use any weapon....Akane would win.
How? Simple. Bring a water pistol. One solid hit, and Shampoo becomes a
cat and can no longer fight...
(But Ukyou could beat either of them!)
John Biles
High Priest of the Cult of Ukyou
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If you allow a no holds barred/all weapons allowed fight, I'd think that the
first Shampoo/Akane fight would point to Shampoo winning again - Shampoo
would just "edit" Akane to the point where Akane would be unable/unwilling
to fight anymore.
Again, Shampoo is much stronger than Akane. They've even arm wrestled
to prove the point. Shampoo knows she can defeat Akane any time, and
is more than a little smug about it.
>But, if both combatants were allowed to use any weapon....Akane would win.
>How? Simple. Bring a water pistol. One solid hit, and Shampoo becomes a
>cat and can no longer fight...
Shampoo as a cat can still fight, but doesn't do much more than
scratch alot, really.
>(But Ukyou could beat either of them!)
In the middle of the series, when Ukyou and Shampoo actually fight
some times, they are an even match, although Ukyou's never
outright defeated Shampoo. This occurs after Shampoo has gotten
weaker due to total lack of training and after Ukyou is much
stronger (after training to defeat Joe). Thus, I'd guess that
early in the series Shampoo could defeat Ukyou consistently.
It's worth noting that Ukyou doesn't defeat anybody except Genma
until after that training trip.
>In article <22JUL94.12...@tscc.macarthur.uws.EDU.AU> Chayya Chan
><RA...@music.macarthur.uws.EDU.AU> writes:
>>
>> Does anyone else out there believe that Akane would beat Shampoo in
>> a fight ??? I have'nt seen them fighting in the the Viz Ranma or in the
>> Chinese Ranma comic books. Even though Shampoo is supposed to be an
>> amazonian, I think Akane's strength would kill Shampoo. Any way are
>> there any people out there not in Australia (hopefully in Japan) that
>> would be interested in exchanging comics and other anime stuff via
>> snail mail ??? If so I would be very interested to hear from you ???
>>
>It would be a good fight. Akane is stronger, but I think Shampoo is more
>skillful. She was trained by Cologne, who could kick Soun's butt without
>even being awake...
I call your attention to the Go-Ricki Soba episode, the arm wrestling
contest at the start: Akane beats a couple of machines handily, then is
crushed with ease by a disguised Shampoo.
Shampoo is stronger than Akane, as well as faster and more skilled.
>Also, Akane doesn't understand the value of defense, and relies on all-out
>attack a little too much. Akane would hurt Shampoo more than Shampoo
>would hurt her on any given blow, but Shampoo would land more blows.
Akane would have to get lucky to hit at all, and see above, I think
Shampoo's blows would be more damaging.
>If Shampoo had room to move, and wasn't overconfident, she would win.
Easily. She should beat Akane under *ANY* remotely even conditions.
>In tight quarters, Akane would pound Shampoo into the ground.
I think you are 100% wrong here.
>But, if both combatants were allowed to use any weapon....Akane would win.
>How? Simple. Bring a water pistol. One solid hit, and Shampoo becomes a
>cat and can no longer fight...
I doubt that Akane would be able to hit Shampoo, her accuracy has never
been inspiring (it usually takes her a couple of trys to zero in on Ranma)
and Shampoo is one of the better dodgers, besides Shampoo could just
borrow Ryougas Umbrella and render Akanes water pistol useless.
>(But Ukyou could beat either of them!)
I agree that Ukyou could crush Akane: I call your attention to the
episode where Happosai's band aid caused Ranma to act like a playboy.
In that Ukyou and Shampoo fought a fairly long battle that they both
agreed to call a draw when they got tired. Ukyou and Shampoo are a very
even match (I personally think Shampoo is a little better, but I would
hate to have to do an early judgement of one of their fights) and either
can beat Akane easily (IMHO).
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True...her cooking could kill a rhino with one shot...but seriously I
think Akane and Shampoo would just end up fighting each other into the ground.
To me they seem to evenly matched and until one makes some leap in martial arts
prowess they will remain so.
Mr. Sinister...
Nice editing....but I didn't say that...
...in fact it was stated later on I believe that if confined to a small
area Akane would beat Shampoo in to the dirt...I tend to agree with this.
Mr. Sinister...
She would not. Shampoo is much stronger than Akane. This is not
speculation, it is a canon fact. They have arm wrestled under
fair circumstances to prove this.
>> Does anyone else out there believe that Akane would beat Shampoo in
>>a fight ??? I have'nt seen them fighting in the the Viz Ranma or in the
>>Chinese Ranma comic books. Even though Shampoo is supposed to be an
>>amazonian, I think Akane's strength would kill Shampoo. Any way are
>>there any people out there not in Australia (hopefully in Japan) that
>>would be interested in exchanging comics and other anime stuff via
>>snail mail ??? If so I would be very interested to hear from you ???
>When Shampoo comes back after falling in the Maoniichuan, she beats Akane
>in a fight. Apparently Shampoo is extremely fast, whereas Akane's style
>emphasizes strength (as you say). Akane doesn't get a chance to hit her before
>Shampoo uses her special hair-washing technique...but that's another story. :)
Shampoo erases Akanes memory in episode #16 of the original series.
This is before Shampoo returns to China and gets knocked into
Maoniichuan - when Shampoo first appears she is NOT cursed.
After Shampoo returns from China (as a cat in a mail package) she avoids
a direct confrontation with AKane and concentrates on "persuading"
(blackmail by any other name ....) Ranma to accept her as his wife.
Akane, has her attractive moments.
Eddie Kwon
Faster - I she can't attack Ranma as fast as Shampoo.
Stronger - Well, she seems to hurt Ranma just as much.
Prettier, sexier - Definitely, but to each his/her own.
Better cook? Don't know.
More experience in be(d)? - How do you know?
Just from episodes, 15-17, I'd say that Shampoo would be Akane. I don't know
about crushing here.
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>Faster - I she can't attack Ranma as fast as Shampoo.
>Stronger - Well, she seems to hurt Ranma just as much.
>Prettier, sexier - Definitely, but to each his/her own.
>Better cook? Don't know.
I don't want to insult all those people who've only seen the first few
episodes of Ranma, but anyone who doesn't know how bad a cook Akane
is is in no position to say anything about her. Viz has already
"translated" an OVA which more than adequately demonstrates this.
>More experience in be(d)? - How do you know?
Shampoo's total experience "in bed" amounts to snuggling up to a
sleeping Ranma. Akane's total experience "in bed" amounts to...
um...sleeping with Ryouga all the time. Draw your own conclusions.
In a previous article, zgu...@umich.edu (ed kwon) says:
>Faster, stronger, prettier, sexier, longer hair, a better cook. more
>experience in be...well anyways, Shampoo is all of these and Chinese to
>boot. Yes so she is "off the boat", she will kill Akane in a real fight.
selfish, scheming, spoiled ... i like akane better. so she can't cook --
that's what take-out is for =)
shampoo may have the body & the hair but akane's got personality -- one
that i appreciate more, even if i were a guy.
besides, even ranma agrees that akane looks better with short hair. some
of us do =)
kat
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In a previous article, isaa...@lhasa.berkeley.edu (Isaac Kuo) says:
>Shampoo's total experience "in bed" amounts to snuggling up to a
>sleeping Ranma. Akane's total experience "in bed" amounts to...
>um...sleeping with Ryouga all the time. Draw your own conclusions.
i don't think p-chan counts, whether or not he puts his little snout
between her breasts =)
Well, I'm just giving my opinion based upon the assorted 20 episodes, I've
seen. But does she get better? I know in the first movie,'Chinese Sleep',
she created that huge dinner that "looked" ok.
Shampoo help her grandmother run a chinese resturant.
Akane....well....she has problems boiling water.
I think we know who's the better cook.
And just remember: "I don't have to taste it to know it's toxic..."
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*smile* me thinks I should catch up on my watching of the RAnma
stuff, or reading the manga....I have not seen this match although I would be
very interested in seeing it. What issue was it in or what series episode was
it? Thanks :)
Mr. Sinister...
: *smile* me thinks I should catch up on my watching of the RAnma
: stuff, or reading the manga....I have not seen this match although I would be
: very interested in seeing it. What issue was it in or what series episode was
: it? Thanks :)
As far as I know, the first encounter with Shampoo in the series occurs
in episodes 15-17.
Akane can speak Japanese / English (depending on which version you're
reading) better than Shampoo.
^_^
-gary
Is this a joke or something? Akane being better in anyway than shampoo?
The only one I can think of is *MAYBE* Akane is smarter... Personaly
however I would have to pick Shampoo,
Better Fighter, Better Cook, Prettier, nicer personality, the list goes
on and on I'm afraid...
Akane is also more studious and more popular than Shampoo, and more
responsible in that she is often depended upon for help from her peers.
>>The only one I can think of is *MAYBE* Akane is smarter... Personaly
>>however I would have to pick Shampoo,
>>Better Fighter, Better Cook, Prettier, nicer personality, the list goes
>>on and on I'm afraid... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>You must have a very STRANGE definition of "nice." Admittedly, Shampoo
>can be deliberately sweet when she wants something, but she's got a nasty
>streak a mile wide. The contrast I like to use is: What did Shampoo
Personality-wise, Shampoo is a bimbo. She's even more of a bimbo than
Lum (from Urusei Yatsura).
You must have a very STRANGE definition of "nice." Admittedly, Shampoo
can be deliberately sweet when she wants something, but she's got a nasty
streak a mile wide. The contrast I like to use is: What did Shampoo
do when she found out about Akane? Took her memory away and then, when
that didn't work, tried to kill her. What did Ukyou do when she found
out about Akane? Tried to fix her up with Ryouga.
There's a qualitative difference here... And I don't think...never mind.
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: Personality-wise, Shampoo is a bimbo. She's even more of a bimbo than
: Lum (from Urusei Yatsura).
Yes, thank you. YOu took the words right out of my mouth.
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>As far as I know, the first encounter with Shampoo in the series occurs
>in episodes 15-17.
Shampoo appears in the #15-17 sequence of the original series, returns
to China at the end of #17 and then comes back to Japan (as a cat) in
Netthouen #2 and shows herself to Ranma (and others) as human in Netthouen #3.
The arm-wrestling match between Akane & Shampoo occurs in the GoRicki
Soba episode, somewhere around Netthouen 30 (within 4 episodes of there
I think - I've forgotten the exact number - Gomen Nasai).
The above is all based on the Anime series rather than the Manga.
>
>You must have a very STRANGE definition of "nice." Admittedly, Shampoo
>can be deliberately sweet when she wants something, but she's got a nasty
>streak a mile wide. The contrast I like to use is: What did Shampoo
>do when she found out about Akane? Took her memory away and then, when
>that didn't work, tried to kill her. What did Ukyou do when she found
>out about Akane? Tried to fix her up with Ryouga.
>
>There's a qualitative difference here... And I don't think...never mind.
There is a slight problem with comparing Shampoo with Akane or Ukyou.
Shampoo has a cultural imperative to marry Ranma. Akane and Ukyou were just
bethrothed to Ranma by their fathers and had no say in the matter. Ranma on
the other hand, by challenging and beating Shampoo, has proposed marriage
and (by winning) got an automatic acceptance. Shampoo is thus REQUIRED to
marry him and can accept no other suitor so long as Ranma was alive.
>There is a slight problem with comparing Shampoo with Akane or Ukyou.
>Shampoo has a cultural imperative to marry Ranma. Akane and Ukyou were just
>bethrothed to Ranma by their fathers and had no say in the matter. Ranma on
>the other hand, by challenging and beating Shampoo, has proposed marriage
>and (by winning) got an automatic acceptance. Shampoo is thus REQUIRED to
>marry him and can accept no other suitor so long as Ranma was alive.
It was Shampoo who challenged Ranma (as a girl). Ranma (as a boy) didn't
challenge Shampoo at all and knocked her out accidentally.
As for Ukyou--she asked her father to ask Genma for permission to marry
Ranma because she wanted Ranma since they were little. She's wanted to
marry Ranma longer than anyone else by a wide margin. If only Ranma
had a clue that she was a girl...
NANI? How DARE you say negative things about the goddess Lum! <Shampoo
_is_ a bimbo, but Lum is never, ever anything but wonderful and true to
Ataru... well.. er, um.. anyway> We her stormtroopers <roll Darth
Vader's Theme from Star Wars - den den de den, den de den, den de den>
shall avenge this insult by forcing you to watch _all_ the TV eps, OVAs,
and movies back to back in one sitting!!! And to top it all off, you'll
watch movies #4 & #6 TWICE EACH! Muah ha ha ha... (After which you'll
beg to be forgiven and allowed to join us in our Righteousness)
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>As for Ukyou--she asked her father to ask Genma for permission to marry
>Ranma because she wanted Ranma since they were little. She's wanted to
>marry Ranma longer than anyone else by a wide margin. If only Ranma
>had a clue that she was a girl...
"Buying a clue" in the Ranmaverse is quite expensive. Don't
blame Ranma...it's just in his nature! :-)
: NANI? How DARE you say negative things about the goddess Lum! <Shampoo
: _is_ a bimbo, but Lum is never, ever anything but wonderful and true to
: Ataru... well.. er, um.. anyway> We her stormtroopers <roll Darth
: Vader's Theme from Star Wars - den den de den, den de den, den de den>
: shall avenge this insult by forcing you to watch _all_ the TV eps, OVAs,
: and movies back to back in one sitting!!! And to top it all off, you'll
: watch movies #4 & #6 TWICE EACH! Muah ha ha ha... (After which you'll
: beg to be forgiven and allowed to join us in our Righteousness)
I suppose that's a threat or the closest you could come up to one.
Does this mean we will be tested after to see if we really pais attention
or just fell asleep with our eyes open.)
Damn! Did I forget to put the smiley after that? ;')
Anyway, if it was a threat.. vell, ve haf vays of making yuu stay
avake, ja? :)
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