Ranma 1/2: Sex Comedy?
Nathan Palovcik
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: : Not exactly titilating.
Oooohhh!! Bad pun.
(Sorry...Couldn't pass this up given the topic..)
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Jae Hyuk Lee
>Having said that, I think calling Ranma 1/2 a "sex comedy" is a disservice.
>Another example of Viz ad copy that totally misses the point.
Speaking of advertising, I was really turned off by the promo for
Mermaid's ***** that they put in at the beginning of Ranma 1/2 TV vol
#1. I can understand their need to advertise their other products,
but such a bloody and violent promo was unnecessary and quite shocking
before watching a comedy.
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> BTW, are you sure about the number of breast shown that aren't Ranma's?
Well, I said two but it could be three depending on how you look at it.
We see Akane's breasts twice in the first episode and we see Shampoo's
breasts once in the OAV "Desperately Seeking Shampoo" (yeah, I know
the VIZ OAV and Movie titles are real groaners but I don't know what
else to call it). So, if we're talking about per episode and we include
the OAVs, it's two. If we just count the regular series with each scene
seperate, it's two. Etc, etc...
Of course, one of my favorite bits is in the first P-Chan episode when
Ranma-chan is naked and carrying P-Chan into the bathroom and the pig
is in *just* the right place to hide naughty bits. I've seen towels,
hands, and so on but a strategically placed pig is just hilarious.
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Dov Sherman
> Hmm. I wonder. Ranma 1/2 *does* seem to attract the sort of people who
> start "Best Babe" lists...
Actually, I think it would be more accurate to say that the _Internet_
attracts the sort of people who start "Best Babe" lists.
davi...@imap1.asu.edu
: Enrique Conty <co...@MCS.COM> wrote:
: >Having said that, I think calling Ranma 1/2 a "sex comedy" is a disservice.
: >Another example of Viz ad copy that totally misses the point.
: Actually, while I agree that Viz's ads are lame ("Where wacky
: hijinks can't stop a great romance?" who thought that sounded cool?),
: I think that a lot of people are missing the point here.
My (ahem) favorite is when they called Silent Mobius "Everyone's favorite
belles with spells." Wait! It's when they called Guyver "The original
Bio-Boosting Power Hero." Ugh.
: The term "sex comedy" usually refers to "sex" as in "gender", not
: "sex" as in "intercourse". "Sex comedies" are comedies in which the
: gender of the pariticpants is a source of much of the humor. "The
: Taming of the Shrew", for example, is a sex comedy. Ranma 1/2
: definitely falls into this category.
In the classical sense, yes. But not to many people are well versed in
the classics these days, and I think Viz was going for the gut reaction
upon hearing the word sex.
SEX! See what I mean?
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Dov Sherman <AB3...@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU> wrote:
>In <37uueu$3...@news.iastate.edu> to...@iastate.edu writes:
>> BTW, are you sure about the number of breast shown that aren't Ranma's?
>Well, I said two but it could be three depending on how you look at it.
> We see Akane's breasts twice in the first episode and we see Shampoo's
> breasts once in the OAV "Desperately Seeking Shampoo" (yeah, I know
Umm...there are 161 TV episodes of Ranma, and well...I'm not going to
spend 60+ hours watching it all just to count scenes, but I know at
least one scene early on which you've missed. Ranma 1/2 Nettoohen
doesn't have anywhere near the amount of nudity as Ranma 1/2, though.
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The most recent VIZ catalog describes Ranma 1/2 as a "sex comedy". But is it,
really? Let's consider the "sex" content...
Number of scenes where sexual intercourse is shown: 0
Number of scenes where sexual intercourse is implied: 1 (This is from
episode 92 when Nabiki pretends she and Ranma are getting intimate
in order to make Akane jealous enough to buy him. Ranma was not actually
present.)
Number of kissing scenes: 13 (This includes several "kisses of death"
Akane kissing P-Chan, Picolet "kissing"
Ranma-chan (by sticking his mouth over
her whole head), Ranma getting kissed
while unconscious, under a spell, etc.,
and people kissing pictures and photos)
Number of almost-kissing scenes: 12 (This is mostly Kunou and Kodachi trying
to kiss Ranma-chan, Ranma-kun, or Akane.)
Number of crossdressing scenes: 3 (This includes the two appearances of
Tsubasa plus the scene where Ranma's
male friends pretend to be the girls'
volleyball team to trick Happosai)
Number of sex-change scenes: Countless
Number of scenes where bare breasts are shown: Not gonna count but it's pretty
high
Number of scenes where bare breasts are shown which are not Ranma's: 2
Strategically placed items used to hide genitals: A pig, a towel, quickly
moving hands, furniture...
So, there's not a whole lot of "SEX" sex, some half-baked kissing, plenty
of scenes with Ranma-chan's breasts popping out for comic effect...
Not exactly titilating.
Uncle Leo
>In the classical sense, yes. But not to many people are well versed in
>the classics these days, and I think Viz was going for the gut reaction
>upon hearing the word sex.
More specifically, young males (the target audience for anime in the U.S.)
are alot more likely to shell out 30 bucks for 50 minutes of "sex comedy"
than for 50 minutes of "romantic comedy" or "martial arts comedy" or . . .
Lee Dioso in Arlington, Va.
Enrique Conty
: The most recent VIZ catalog describes Ranma 1/2 as a "sex comedy".
: But is it, really?
Ranma 1/2 is a comedy, and many jokes are based on Ranma switching gender,
or on Ranma using the "girl-body" to his advantage.
Having said that, I think calling Ranma 1/2 a "sex comedy" is a disservice.
Another example of Viz ad copy that totally misses the point.
: So, there's not a whole lot of "SEX" sex, some half-baked kissing, plenty
: of scenes with Ranma-chan's breasts popping out for comic effect...
: Not exactly titilating.
Hmm. I wonder. Ranma 1/2 *does* seem to attract the sort of people who
start "Best Babe" lists...
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Michael J. Kruckvich
: In article <37s1i1$l...@Venus.mcs.com>, Enrique Conty <co...@MCS.COM> wrote:
: Having said that, I think calling Ranma 1/2 a "sex comedy" is a disservice.
: Another example of Viz ad copy that totally misses the point.
Actually, I thought that it meant "comedy about the sexes", not "comedy about
sex." That's how I read it, anyway...
Wondering if they've fixed the computers so it'll show his own name...
Michael J. Kruckvich
Kevin Lew -- The Lai-Lai Boy
really can help. Some of the info may even be correct! ;-)
Actually, I always thought that Viz meant "sex" as in "gender." Y'know, as
a really bad pun on "sex comedy." (I figured they're capable of doing such
lousy puns after seeing the OVA and movie titles.) It doesn't make any
other sense why they would say "sex comedy" otherwise. Just my stupid
opinion.
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Dov Sherman <AB3...@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU> wrote:
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>The most recent VIZ catalog describes Ranma 1/2 as a "sex comedy". But is it,
> really? Let's consider the "sex" content...
[clipping statistics]
Wow! You did quite a lot of counting....I wonder how long that took.
Good job anyhow. I am sure someone will use this info for travia
someday.
BTW, are you sure about the number of breast shown that aren't Ranma's?
>So, there's not a whole lot of "SEX" sex, some half-baked kissing, plenty
> of scenes with Ranma-chan's breasts popping out for comic effect...
> Not exactly titilating.
Is "sex" the reason to watch Ranma 1/2? No...not by a long shot.
To me, it's funny because of the weird adult humor. The curse,
the love interests, and the martial arts are all plot devices
designed to make us laugh.
It's almost to the point where stuff(like plots or character actions) make
sense because they fit into the weirdness of the Ranma Universe.
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>Having said that, I think calling Ranma 1/2 a "sex comedy" is a disservice.
>Another example of Viz ad copy that totally misses the point.
Actually, while I agree that Viz's ads are lame ("Where wacky
hijinks can't stop a great romance?" who thought that sounded cool?),
I think that a lot of people are missing the point here.
The term "sex comedy" usually refers to "sex" as in "gender", not
"sex" as in "intercourse". "Sex comedies" are comedies in which the
gender of the pariticpants is a source of much of the humor. "The
Taming of the Shrew", for example, is a sex comedy. Ranma 1/2
definitely falls into this category.
dbon...@ucsd.edu
Daniel Bongard
Terry Martin
> Umm...there are 161 TV episodes of Ranma, and well...I'm not going to
> spend 60+ hours watching it all just to count scenes, but I know at
> least one scene early on which you've missed. Ranma 1/2 Nettoohen
> doesn't have anywhere near the amount of nudity as Ranma 1/2, though.
You must have that backwards.
There are only a couple scenes in the original series, but Nett^ohen
has scores. Nett^ohen episode 22 even has more nudity than the
original series and both movies combined.
Enrique Conty
: Better written? Gee, except for the original anime stories in
: Nettoohen, they were all basically written by Takahashi. As for
: the specifics of how they were converted to the anime, the first
: series suffered greatly from having an extremely slow pace, as
: did the early Nettoohen episodes.
Ut. I *liked* the slow pace of the early Ranma 1/2 episodes. Not quite
as frantic as UY. In fact, the scene with Ranma and Akane in the park
(when Akane tells Ranma about Dr. Tofu) is one of my favorite sequences.
The series quickly deteriorated into an UY clone when Nettouhen started
and we were subjected to a sucession of insert-silly-technique martial
arts experts, which gets tiring real fast.
Edward Seehwan Kwon
The later Nettouhen eps. suffered from degenerating animation quality
artwor, and stories. I don't know, since all the stories were written by
Takahashi, maybe they were just as stupid in the manga, or told better in
the manga. I don't know. The fighting techiniques just got ridiculous
and the stories even silliers. Every 20 eps. or so, there was a good or
memorable episode. The storytelling, choreography, and artwork in the
first series was done so much better that there is hraly any comparison.
The last thirty or so Nettouhen eps. improve, but bear the style of what
is nowe the OAV's and movies. It's a different style but I like it.
Basically there's a lot of things to like and dislike about the Nettouhen
eps, probably because there's just so much of it. Goods things are like
the introductions of Ukyou, the Christman episode, Ranma becoming
Nabiki's inazukee and some others. The low points of the series are all
the Sentarou and Linlin/Ranran eps. :p
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: : : Better written? Gee, except for the original anime stories in
: : : Nettoohen, they were all basically written by Takahashi. As for
: : : the specifics of how they were converted to the anime, the first
: : : series suffered greatly from having an extremely slow pace, as
: : : did the early Nettoohen episodes.
: The later Nettouhen eps. suffered from degenerating animation quality
: artwor, and stories. I don't know, since all the stories were written by
: Takahashi, maybe they were just as stupid in the manga, or told better in
: the manga. I don't know. The fighting techiniques just got ridiculous
Ummm...As near as I can tell, Takahashi only wrote half of the
Nettouen episodes. I went through my episode summary and 70 of 143
episodes weren't based on any of Takahashi's manga. The other 73 all have
manga volume and episode numbers. In any case, I know that Takahashi
definitely did not write everything in nettouen.
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>In article <37vi89$2...@lester.appstate.edu>, Dov Sherman <AB3...@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU> wrote:
>>In <37uueu$3...@news.iastate.edu> to...@iastate.edu writes:
>>> BTW, are you sure about the number of breast shown that aren't Ranma's?
>>Well, I said two but it could be three depending on how you look at it.
>> We see Akane's breasts twice in the first episode and we see Shampoo's
>> breasts once in the OAV "Desperately Seeking Shampoo" (yeah, I know
>Umm...there are 161 TV episodes of Ranma, and well...I'm not going to
>spend 60+ hours watching it all just to count scenes, but I know at
>least one scene early on which you've missed. Ranma 1/2 Nettoohen
>doesn't have anywhere near the amount of nudity as Ranma 1/2, though.
Really?!?
That's hard to fathom. The idea that eighteen better written first
season eps contain more nudity than 143 of the other. We're talking
almost eight times the material here!
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Hey Butthead! Look at this cartoon. It's a sex comedy.
You mean, it's got, like breasts and stuff?
Yeah. This is cool. Heh-heh-heh-heh-heh.
Sigh.
Isaac Ji Kuo
>>>to...@iastate.edu writes:
>>>> BTW, are you sure about the number of breast shown that aren't Ranma's?
>>>Well, I said two but it could be three depending on how you look at it.
>>> We see Akane's breasts twice in the first episode and we see Shampoo's
>>> breasts once in the OAV "Desperately Seeking Shampoo" (yeah, I know
>>Umm...there are 161 TV episodes of Ranma, and well...I'm not going to
>>spend 60+ hours watching it all just to count scenes, but I know at
>>least one scene early on which you've missed. Ranma 1/2 Nettoohen
>>doesn't have anywhere near the amount of nudity as Ranma 1/2, though.
>Really?!?
Yes, on an average per-episode basis. I don't understand why people
misinterpreted that. In Nettoohen, there are almost always towels
and other things covering breasts (except for Ranma's) as well as
underwear (because of one character). Even Ranma's breasts are usually
covered when he's topless, except for the very early Nettoohen episodes
which were in much the same style as the first series.
The first series was far more gratuitous.
>That's hard to fathom. The idea that eighteen better written first
>season eps contain more nudity than 143 of the other. We're talking
>almost eight times the material here!
Better written? Gee, except for the original anime stories in
Nettoohen, they were all basically written by Takahashi. As for
the specifics of how they were converted to the anime, the first
series suffered greatly from having an extremely slow pace, as
did the early Nettoohen episodes.
P-Chan
> > doesn't have anywhere near the amount of nudity as Ranma 1/2, though.
> There are only a couple scenes in the original series, but Nett^ohen
> has scores. Nett^ohen episode 22 even has more nudity than the
> original series and both movies combined.
They were in a PUBLIC BATH! Think about it, there's now way ther could have
pulled that one off without any.
P-Chan
Dov Sherman
> They were in a PUBLIC BATH! Think about it, there's now way ther could have
> pulled that one off without any.
Well, it certainly doesn't bother me but it's one thing that will keep it from
ever getting onto an American channel other than one of the pay channels.
On the other hand, while the makers of Ranma 1/2 aren't shy about showing
breasts, they never show genitals. When P-Chan is first introduced, there's
a really creative use of the strategically-placed pig technique to hide
Ranma-chan's genitals in the bathroom. In the abovementioned public bath
scene, it would have been interesting to see them try to be as creative
hiding everyone's naughty bits. Heck, I'd almost rather see that just
for the novelty of it. On the other hand, seeing cartoon breasts is no
biggy either.
Side note: A friend of mine saw a picture I have of Ranma-chan on my wall and
complained that no real woman has breasts that large and it was degrading.
I pointed out that it was really a guy and she goes, "Oh, okay. But it still
bothers me that men always draw women with such big breasts." So I pointed
out that Ranma was created and is drawn by a woman. My point, don't make
such a big thing out of breasts (pun intended).
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: breasts, they never show genitals. When P-Chan is first introduced, there's
: a really creative use of the strategically-placed pig technique to hide
: Ranma-chan's genitals in the bathroom. In the abovementioned public bath
: scene, it would have been interesting to see them try to be as creative
: hiding everyone's naughty bits. Heck, I'd almost rather see that just
: for the novelty of it. On the other hand, seeing cartoon breasts is no
: biggy either.
Particularly, since no one in Ranma 1/2 seems to have nipples...
(or at least not nipples that are drawn very well)
: out that Ranma was created and is drawn by a woman. My point, don't make
: such a big thing out of breasts (pun intended).
Heh. Kind of hard not to with Shampoo & Ranma-Chan...
Heh.
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Ray Huang
>
> Side note: A friend of mine saw a picture I have of Ranma-chan on my wall and
> complained that no real woman has breasts that large and it was degrading.
> I pointed out that it was really a guy and she goes, "Oh, okay. But it still
> bothers me that men always draw women with such big breasts." So I pointed
> out that Ranma was created and is drawn by a woman. My point, don't make
> such a big thing out of breasts (pun intended).
>
First of all, Ranma 1/2 was created by Rumiko Takahashi, but I'll bet some
of the animators are men, so your picture might have been done by a man
with that intent.
Ray
Y. Kim
> of the animators are men, so your picture might have been done by a man
> with that intent.
>
> Ray
well, i think the comic book series are probably drawn by rumiko takahashi
alone. what do you have to say about nudity in the comic bood series
then?
y.kim
james Steven Leek
Have you ever noticed men don't have nipples in Ranma 1/2?
Except for a sumo wresler in TV # 3 or 4....
Ray Huang
> alone. what do you have to say about nudity in the comic bood series
> then?
>
> y.kim
I've seen some of the manga. The nudity in it is somewhat different
because of the way it is drawn, but I guess Ranma-chan's chest is drawn
proportionally bigger. What I say about nudity is that I don't like it,
and it takes something away from the animation.
Ray
Ray Huang
(Glen Kawano) wrote:
> On top of that, wasn't the character designer for the OAVs Atsuko
> Nakjima (a woman)? Everyone got quite voluptuous in the OAVs (and the
> movies). And have you seen her illustrations in Newtype? She makes
> Miyuki and Natsumi of "You're Under Arrest" look pretty...er...umm...good.
>
I recently learned that too. I think someone told me she did the character
designs for AMG, too. In those OAVs, the females were drawn normal. I'm
not sure what a character designer does, but I guess he/she sets the tone
and style of the animation. I just remember when I was taking an animation
class here at UCLA that there was a lot involved in to making an animation.
They're are artists who draw the beginning/ending poses (forgot what they
were called), artists who do the in-betweens, background artists, painters,
etc. I was just trying to say that the artists that do the
beginning/ending poses might have been male and drawn the characters with
bigger chests, or maybe they're just following Atsuko Nakajima's character
designs.
Ray
Glen Kawano
Y. Kim <oob...@uclink2.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>well, i think the comic book series are probably drawn by rumiko takahashi
>alone. what do you have to say about nudity in the comic bood series
>then?
On top of that, wasn't the character designer for the OAVs Atsuko
Nakjima (a woman)? Everyone got quite voluptuous in the OAVs (and the
movies). And have you seen her illustrations in Newtype? She makes
Miyuki and Natsumi of "You're Under Arrest" look pretty...er...umm...good.
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Dov Sherman
> First of all, Ranma 1/2 was created by Rumiko Takahashi, but I'll bet some
> of the animators are men, so your picture might have been done by a man
> with that intent.
Actually, the picture in point was from the comic book so it was pure
Takahashi. However, you DO have a point. Just look at how much bigger
everyone's breasts got in the second movie. (Not that I'm complaining...)
Realistically, we all know that the Cute-Girl-Factor is one of the MAIN
draws in Anime/Manga so you just have to expect that sort of thing. I wonder
if the same sort of thing goes on in shojo manga?
Dov Sherman
> I've seen some of the manga. The nudity in it is somewhat different
> because of the way it is drawn, but I guess Ranma-chan's chest is drawn
> proportionally bigger. What I say about nudity is that I don't like it,
> and it takes something away from the animation.
While I can certainly respect your opinion, I have to disagree. The nudity
in Ranma 1/2 is rare except in Ranma-chan's case where it's always for
comic effect. There is no gratuitous nudity in Ranma 1/2 and to try to avoid
nudity would detract from the creator's freedom and abilities. Take a tip
from the Japanese culture: nudity really isn't half the big deal Americans
make it out to be.
John D Evans
another story. ^_^) Breasts, and people seen from the side...and actually, in
one place, it seems like you should be able to see genitals...but there just isn't
anything drawn, not even any hair. Oh, well. :) Interesting, I thought...
(For those who are interested :), it's when Ranma first finds out Ryoga is P-chan,
Ryoga eventually jumps out of the bath at him (female at that moment), and the
specific shot is one of Ranma scrambling away. Viz Part II issue 1, Shogakukan
Volume 2 Part 8, I believe.)
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>In article <39ck3f$f...@lester.appstate.edu>, AB3...@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU
>(Dov Sherman) wrote:
>
>> While I can certainly respect your opinion, I have to disagree. The nudity
>> in Ranma 1/2 is rare except in Ranma-chan's case where it's always for
>> comic effect. There is no gratuitous nudity in Ranma 1/2 and to try to avoid
>> nudity would detract from the creator's freedom and abilities. Take a tip
>> from the Japanese culture: nudity really isn't half the big deal Americans
>> make it out to be.
>> ___
>think the nudity takes away from the animation. I've contemplated for
>personal reasons if I should continue watching Ranma and reached to a
>conclusion to watch it for its style and some of its comedy. I dislike the
>nudity, and if I ever watch an anime just for its nudity, then I'd rather
>not. I also think there are probably ways to avoid nudity and achieve the
>same comic effect.
Zheesh... There are ways to avoid using the color green and achieve the
same comic effect as well. The point is, from the Japanese perspective,
there is nothing any more wrong with using Ranma-chan popping out of
hir top, than with having him turn green when he eats Akane's cooking.
The problem is entirely, in this case, in the viewer's mind.
And no... I'm _not_ defending the use of nudity in Ranma, etc,
because I'm some poor ecchi slob who watches anime just for the
"hooters"... As a matter of fact, while I don't find anything wrong
with nudity in Ranma, a comment like "Look at them hooters!" in
my presence, said as anything other than a joke, would probably
result in the person being physically removed from the viewing
area. I find the statement, and the sentiment etc, which it implies,
distasteful.
Will Ray
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Pomru
>
>Oh, and Ranma is published by Shonen Sunday Comics, not Shogakukan. There
>is a difference. ^_^
Wait, what difference is that? I've looked in the back of my latest
Ranma manga volume and it says, "Copyright 1994, Shogakukan." Maybe
you haven't realized that Shogakukan is the publisher of Shonen Sunday
Comics... ^_^;;;
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Joe Sewell
(Ray Huang) wrote:
> In article <39ck3f$f...@lester.appstate.edu>, AB3...@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU
> (Dov Sherman) wrote:
>
> > While I can certainly respect your opinion, I have to disagree. The nudity
> > in Ranma 1/2 is rare except in Ranma-chan's case where it's always for
> > comic effect. There is no gratuitous nudity in Ranma 1/2 and to try
to avoid
> > nudity would detract from the creator's freedom and abilities. Take a tip
> > from the Japanese culture: nudity really isn't half the big deal Americans
> > make it out to be.
> > ___
>
> Counterpoint. I guess it could be true that some of the nudity in Ranma
> 1/2 might not be gratuitous, but when I hear other guys say something like,
> "Look at those hooters! No one in real life have hooters that big," it
> makes me wonder ... Did the person realize the nudity was for comic effect?
> No, just, "Look at them hooters!" This was from my cousin. That's why I
> think the nudity takes away from the animation.
Even though Dov makes the point that Japanese culture doesn't consider
nudity to be as big a deal as we in the USA do, your cousin proves that it
doesn't really matter much. We're going to deal with it according to our
culture, society, and environment. Right or wrong, open or closed, that's
the way it'll be. Thus, while somebody from St. Tropez or Japan might
consider the nudity comical, somebody from the USA (as opposed to
"America," since that can include Canada, Central America, & South
America) will be distracted by it, either with offense or drool. :)
Joe
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> While I can certainly respect your opinion, I have to disagree. The nudity
> in Ranma 1/2 is rare except in Ranma-chan's case where it's always for
> comic effect. There is no gratuitous nudity in Ranma 1/2 and to try to avoid
> nudity would detract from the creator's freedom and abilities. Take a tip
> from the Japanese culture: nudity really isn't half the big deal Americans
> make it out to be.
> ___
Counterpoint. I guess it could be true that some of the nudity in Ranma
1/2 might not be gratuitous, but when I hear other guys say something like,
"Look at those hooters! No one in real life have hooters that big," it
makes me wonder ... Did the person realize the nudity was for comic effect?
No, just, "Look at them hooters!" This was from my cousin. That's why I
think the nudity takes away from the animation. I've contemplated for
personal reasons if I should continue watching Ranma and reached to a
conclusion to watch it for its style and some of its comedy. I dislike the
nudity, and if I ever watch an anime just for its nudity, then I'd rather
not. I also think there are probably ways to avoid nudity and achieve the
same comic effect.
Ray
William Stone
: It seems there is more nudity in the manga...(and actually blood too, but that's
: another story. ^_^) Breasts, and people seen from the side...and actually, in
: one place, it seems like you should be able to see genitals...but there just isn't
: anything drawn, not even any hair. Oh, well. :) Interesting, I thought...
Definitly more nudity in the manga. In vols 1-29 (all I have), only 3
characters never bare their breasts: Kasumi, Nodoka, and Kodachi. The
first two and now surprise...the last one, who'd want to see it? :P
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(John D Evans) wrote:
> It seems there is more nudity in the manga...(and actually blood too, but that's
> another story. ^_^) Breasts, and people seen from the side...and actually, in
> one place, it seems like you should be able to see genitals...but there just isn't
> anything drawn, not even any hair. Oh, well. :) Interesting, I thought...
That's not that special. I've seen this technique of not drawing in pubic
hair or genitals plenty of times. Personally, I'm glad. I'd much rather
have the artist censor their own work than for some editing board do it
(and screw up the pictures).
Oh, and there's lots of blood in the manga in comparison to the anime. The
amount of violence seems to increase in the newer manga stories.
Oh, and Ranma is published by Shonen Sunday Comics, not Shogakukan. There
is a difference. ^_^
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po...@venice.mps.ohio-state.edu (Pomru) wrote:
> In article <ra1628-04...@222.95.248.7> ra1...@email.sps.mot.com (Kevin Lew -- "The Lai-Lai Boy") writes:
> >
> >Oh, and Ranma is published by Shonen Sunday Comics, not Shogakukan. There
> >is a difference. ^_^
>
> Wait, what difference is that? I've looked in the back of my latest
> Ranma manga volume and it says, "Copyright 1994, Shogakukan." Maybe
> you haven't realized that Shogakukan is the publisher of Shonen Sunday
> Comics... ^_^;;;
Shogakukan is a big, big publishing company. They print under different
names, and they are considered seperate yet the same. Just as IBM really
owns Lexmark, you still say Lexmark makes their laser printers, not IBM.
Want further proof? Look at the back of some of your Ranma manga, and
you'll see a list of the titles that SSC prints. You should see Takahashi
Rumiko's Ranma 1/2 and Urusei Yatsura listed. So where's Maison Ikkoku?
It's printed by another company... but it's also owned by Shogakukan.
Dov Sherman
> Counterpoint. I guess it could be true that some of the nudity in Ranma
> 1/2 might not be gratuitous, but when I hear other guys say something like,
> "Look at those hooters! No one in real life have hooters that big," it
> makes me wonder ... Did the person realize the nudity was for comic effect?
You have to keep in mind that Ranma 1/2 was designed for a Japanese audience.
The Japanese do not share the same taboos about "hooters" that Americans
have and so would not have the same reaction as your Californian friends.
The point is that, while the nudity is not overmuch in its original forum,
its translation to an American audience causes it to take on an ill-fitting
image of paper-wrapper nudie-ness.
By the way, please don't use the term "hooters" to refer to women's breasts.
It's a degrading term. Please use the term "golden bozos".
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Dov Sherman
> Even though Dov makes the point that Japanese culture doesn't consider
> nudity to be as big a deal as we in the USA do, your cousin proves that it
> doesn't really matter much. We're going to deal with it according to our
> culture, society, and environment. Right or wrong, open or closed, that's
> the way it'll be. Thus, while somebody from St. Tropez or Japan might
> consider the nudity comical, somebody from the USA (as opposed to
> "America," since that can include Canada, Central America, & South
> America) will be distracted by it, either with offense or drool. :)
Good point. But, in appreciating anime, it's very important to keep the
culture of Japan very much in mind. When watching anime, you often need
to be aware of Japanese culture and tradition to be able to follow some
of the plot points. For example, if you didn't know about seppuku and the
power of the oath, you'd never understand why Ranma and Genma are afraid
to go home to Nodoka. And if you weren't aware of the comparatively extreme
politeness of the Japanese, you'd completely miss the extreme rudeness of
Ranma's speech, one of the main sources of grudge for Kuno. If we're going
to pay any attention to such cultural points, why shouldn't we keep the
same attittude when considering the nudity?
Profess'nal Agitator
>Definitly more nudity in the manga. In vols 1-29 (all I have), only 3
>characters never bare their breasts: Kasumi, Nodoka, and Kodachi. The
>first two and now surprise...the last one, who'd want to see it? :P
Really? I can envision situations where Ukyou would be caught
topless, but Nabiki???
So, what's the context that catches Nabiki with her guard down?
Also, does that include Azusa? :-)
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>In article <39b668$5...@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca>, William Stone <cs9...@assn205.cs.ualberta.ca> wrote:
>>Definitly more nudity in the manga. In vols 1-29 (all I have), only 3
>>characters never bare their breasts: Kasumi, Nodoka, and Kodachi. The
>>first two and now surprise...the last one, who'd want to see it? :P
>Really? I can envision situations where Ukyou would be caught
>topless, but Nabiki???
>So, what's the context that catches Nabiki with her guard down?
>Also, does that include Azusa? :-)
How about Cologne? Eyyyyyyyaaaaahhhhhhhhhh! :P :P :P
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: Really? I can envision situations where Ukyou would be caught
: topless, but Nabiki???
: So, what's the context that catches Nabiki with her guard down?
In a bathhouse of course. Akane and Nabiki are bathing, while Ranma and
Happousai sare fighting...Vol 7 part 7, which means we'll be seeing it in
English soon! <drool...mabye VIZ will reprint it in color too, like it
was originally...>
Ukyou lets her guard down only once, and that not until Vol 16...:<
: Also, does that include Azusa? :-)
Ech...forgot about her (lucky me). No, Azusa also never appears
topless. (You're complaining?)
Joe Sewell
(Dov Sherman) wrote:
> In <jsewell-0511...@netport-11.iu.net> jse...@iu.net writes:
>
> > Even though Dov makes the point that Japanese culture doesn't consider
> > nudity to be as big a deal as we in the USA do, your cousin proves that it
> > doesn't really matter much. We're going to deal with it according to our
> > culture, society, and environment. Right or wrong, open or closed, that's
> > the way it'll be. Thus, while somebody from St. Tropez or Japan might
> > consider the nudity comical, somebody from the USA (as opposed to
> > "America," since that can include Canada, Central America, & South
> > America) will be distracted by it, either with offense or drool. :)
>
> Good point. But, in appreciating anime, it's very important to keep the
> culture of Japan very much in mind. When watching anime, you often need
> to be aware of Japanese culture and tradition to be able to follow some
> of the plot points. For example, if you didn't know about seppuku and the
> power of the oath, you'd never understand why Ranma and Genma are afraid
> to go home to Nodoka. And if you weren't aware of the comparatively extreme
> politeness of the Japanese, you'd completely miss the extreme rudeness of
> Ranma's speech, one of the main sources of grudge for Kuno. If we're going
> to pay any attention to such cultural points, why shouldn't we keep the
> same attittude when considering the nudity?
I would disagree, though, that everybody keeps Japanese culture in mind.
I would even dare say many dubbed anime viewers don't know enough about
Japanese culture to know about seppuku, the acceptance of nudity, extreme
politeness (although that one is fairly well-known), etc. (I'm not
talking about full-bore anime fans, but those who pick up "Project A-Ko"
from the video racks because it's a cartoon with two cute girls.)
Wes Harrell
[kamu,kamu...gulp....geppu]
: I would disagree, though, that everybody keeps Japanese culture in mind.
: Japanese culture to know about seppuku, the acceptance of nudity, extreme
: politeness (although that one is fairly well-known), etc. (I'm not
: talking about full-bore anime fans, but those who pick up "Project A-Ko"
: from the video racks because it's a cartoon with two cute girls.)
Quite possibly so...but thought I'd throw in:
I showed the 1st 2 dubbed Ranmas to a friend the other night...
(With just a little pre-explanation on the plot)
Afterwards he didn't think what nudity was there was that bad, but he
also made comments on how the differences in culture (between US +
Japan) showed in the tapes, and thought that was pretty neat.
(He did figure that pandas that do martial-arts aren't the norm for
Japan tho...^_^ )
Then there was the other persons I lent the tapes to....15 yr old +
parent -- The 15 yr old (male) thought the tapes were great but didn't
really make mention of culture ^_^. The parent (female) thought they
were 'ok'...(didn't make any further comments really ;-)
-Wes
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Ray Huang
(Kevin Lew -- "The Lai-Lai Boy") wrote:
> Yes, there are some folks that watch anime just because it has cute girls.
> There are also those that can't watch an anime show unless it has plenty of
> sex and/or violence in it. I couldn't care less about those fools. These
> are the ones that like to watch Sailor Moon transform in slow motion
> because they hope to catch a glimpse of her naked. I'm sorry, but that
> goes way beyond pathetic.
>
> The bottom line is, there's nothing wrong with the nudity in Ranma 1/2.
> Girls read the comic and watch the anime all the time in Japan, and I don't
> think they go ballistic over it. If you see it as something dirty, then
> that's your problem--Takahashi Rumiko didn't create the series for gaijin
> (like me) anyway.
At least I'm glad to hear that. ^^^^^^
Ray
Kevin Lew -- The Lai-Lai Boy
not.)
In article <jsewell-0911...@netport-5.iu.net>, jse...@iu.net (Joe
Sewell) wrote:
> I would disagree, though, that everybody keeps Japanese culture in mind.
> I would even dare say many dubbed anime viewers don't know enough about
> Japanese culture to know about seppuku, the acceptance of nudity, extreme
> politeness (although that one is fairly well-known), etc. (I'm not
> talking about full-bore anime fans, but those who pick up "Project A-Ko"
> from the video racks because it's a cartoon with two cute girls.)
Yes, there are some folks that watch anime just because it has cute girls.
There are also those that can't watch an anime show unless it has plenty of
sex and/or violence in it. I couldn't care less about those fools. These
are the ones that like to watch Sailor Moon transform in slow motion
because they hope to catch a glimpse of her naked. I'm sorry, but that
goes way beyond pathetic.
The bottom line is, there's nothing wrong with the nudity in Ranma 1/2.
Girls read the comic and watch the anime all the time in Japan, and I don't
think they go ballistic over it. If you see it as something dirty, then
that's your problem--Takahashi Rumiko didn't create the series for gaijin
(like me) anyway.
Ray Huang
> The Japanese do not share the same taboos about "hooters" that Americans
> have and so would not have the same reaction as your Californian friends.
> The point is that, while the nudity is not overmuch in its original forum,
> its translation to an American audience causes it to take on an ill-fitting
> image of paper-wrapper nudie-ness.
>
> By the way, please don't use the term "hooters" to refer to women's breasts.
> It's a degrading term. Please use the term "golden bozos".
>
Just my point. I don't think a majority of people would have the Japanese
culture in their mind when watching anime. When I began to become involved
with anime more heavily over the past year or so, I put a lot of thought
into this. Personally, I was shocked to see nudity so acceptable in Asian
societies. I feel it's also hippocritical when raised in an Asian home
where they try to teach kids that nudity is morally wrong, and then as an
adult, it's ok. It's the same for Americans who teach this. And sorry for
using the term "hooters". I don't think I used it in a degrading manner
when I use it to directly quote someone. I'm just being honest.
Ray
Dov Sherman
> I would disagree, though, that everybody keeps Japanese culture in mind.
> I would even dare say many dubbed anime viewers don't know enough about
> Japanese culture to know about seppuku, the acceptance of nudity, extreme
> politeness (although that one is fairly well-known), etc.
Very true. I guess what we're looking at is the natural resistance of
one culture to an infusion from another. In this case, the average
American ignorance of other cultures (heck, most American high schoolers
couldn't even tell you where Japan *is*) causes us to interpret the
animation purely in context of an American culture. This really can't
be helped. I generally try to explain it to people and, if they
don't understand or don't want to, I just let it slide. I'll enjoy it my
way and they theirs.
> (I'm not
> talking about full-bore anime fans, but those who pick up "Project A-Ko"
> from the video racks because it's a cartoon with two cute girls.)
Can you think of a *better* reason to watch Project A-Ko? And waddya mean
*TWO* cute girls? Just who are you leaving out, huh?
Profess'nal Agitator
>Earlier, Profess'nal Agitator (agit...@kaiwan.com) was blathering something about...
>: Really? I can envision situations where Ukyou would be caught
>: topless, but Nabiki???
>: So, what's the context that catches Nabiki with her guard down?
>In a bathhouse of course. Akane and Nabiki are bathing, while Ranma and
>Happousai sare fighting...Vol 7 part 7, which means we'll be seeing it in
>English soon! <drool...mabye VIZ will reprint it in color too, like it
>was originally...>
Ok, I'm thinking of the Nettouhen ep where Nabiki and Akane come
prepared w swimsuits, so I figured it was the same way in the original
manga chapter.
>: Also, does that include Azusa? :-)
>Ech...forgot about her (lucky me). No, Azusa also never appears
>topless. (You're complaining?)
Do you see me complaining? Besides, you're the one who said every
major female character except Kasumi, Nodoka, and Kodachi.
For some reason, I find Kodachi rather surprising, though.
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Dov Sherman <AB3...@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU> wrote:
// In <jsewell-0911...@netport-5.iu.net> jse...@iu.net writes:
// > (I'm not
// > talking about full-bore anime fans, but those who pick up "Project A-Ko"
// > from the video racks because it's a cartoon with two cute girls.)
//
// Can you think of a *better* reason to watch Project A-Ko? And waddya mean
// *TWO* cute girls? Just who are you leaving out, huh?
Clearly C-ko and Ayumi-sensei are the cute girls. A-ko is too much a
fighter type to really be cute, and B-ko is far too intelligent.
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>In article <3a4ntg$h...@lester.appstate.edu>,
>Dov Sherman <AB3...@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU> wrote:
>// In <jsewell-0911...@netport-5.iu.net> jse...@iu.net writes:
>// > (I'm not
>// > talking about full-bore anime fans, but those who pick up "Project A-Ko"
>// > from the video racks because it's a cartoon with two cute girls.)
>//
>// Can you think of a *better* reason to watch Project A-Ko? And waddya mean
>// *TWO* cute girls? Just who are you leaving out, huh?
>
>Clearly C-ko and Ayumi-sensei are the cute girls. A-ko is too much a
>fighter type to really be cute, and B-ko is far too intelligent.
Yes, A-ko and B-ko may be "attractive", but they are not cute. Cute is a
personality, not neccessarily appearance.
C-ko
John D Evans
|> In article <3a4ntg$h...@lester.appstate.edu>,
|> Dov Sherman <AB3...@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU> wrote:
|> // In <jsewell-0911...@netport-5.iu.net> jse...@iu.net writes:
|> // > (I'm not
|> // > talking about full-bore anime fans, but those who pick up "Project A-Ko"
|> // > from the video racks because it's a cartoon with two cute girls.)
|> //
|> // Can you think of a *better* reason to watch Project A-Ko? And waddya mean
|> // *TWO* cute girls? Just who are you leaving out, huh?
|>
|> Clearly C-ko and Ayumi-sensei are the cute girls. A-ko is too much a
|> fighter type to really be cute, and B-ko is far too intelligent.
I'm afraid you've got it exactly opposite...:)
Ayumi seems too old to be called "cute"...beautiful, sexy, yes, but not cute...
(of course, that's just my interpretation of the word...^_^)
And C-Ko seems to go beyond cute and out the other side...yick. :)
A-Ko isn't too much of a fighter type...look at the subject header, and you'll
see this was originally a Ranma 1/2 thread. ;)
And "too intelligent to be cute"? Ooh, hold me back...>:-)
Let me just say this...I've attended classes here at MIT for about 3 months now,
and there's not doubt in my mind that intelligence does not decrease cute...:)
And besides, B-Ko is such a great character! Almost as good as...Kodachi! :)
SFUJ...@delphi.com
Quoting csci1b07 from a message in rec.arts.anime
> >Clearly C-ko and Ayumi-sensei are the cute girls. A-ko is too much a
> >fighter type to really be cute, and B-ko is far too intelligent.
> Yes, A-ko and B-ko may be "attractive", but they are not cute. Cute
>is a personality, not neccessarily appearance.
> C-ko
Agreed. B-ko = beautiful, intelligent, wealthy, and nasty. @_@
C-ko = cute, cheerful, and somewhat clueless. (the anime character,
not the guy who posted above)
A-ko = kinda manly, actually. (although not half as much as a lot of
other characters in Project A-ko) ^_^
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John D Evans <jev...@athena.mit.edu> wrote:
// In article <Cz8H1...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>, bwr...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Kernel Mustard) writes:
// |> Clearly C-ko and Ayumi-sensei are the cute girls. A-ko is too much a
// |> fighter type to really be cute, and B-ko is far too intelligent.
//
// I'm afraid you've got it exactly opposite...:)
Nope... no lexdysia here. :)
// Ayumi seems too old to be called "cute"...beautiful, sexy, yes, but not cute
// (of course, that's just my interpretation of the word...^_^)
Sexy? Not really, and besides whats age got to do with cuteness.
Cuteness is mostly a state of mind (or lack of mind if you prefer:). If you've
got a character with the cute look without the cute personality, you've
got a character who's attractive (not really cute). Ayumi's personality
is positively cute.
// And C-Ko seems to go beyond cute and out the other side...yick. :)
Not quite out the other side. More like a figure head for other cute
characters to aspire to.
// A-Ko isn't too much of a fighter type...look at the subject header, and
// you'll see this was originally a Ranma 1/2 thread. ;)
I know, I was the one who changed it :) Still A-ko is a combat gumby (tm).
She typically avoids acting cute.
// And "too intelligent to be cute"? Ooh, hold me back...>:-)
Come on... I'll take you. :) I've done it before on the Nabiki/Kodachi
debates just before you started this Loyal Order thing, and I'll
do it again. :)
// Let me just say this...I've attended classes here at MIT for about 3 months
// now, and there's not doubt in my mind that intelligence does not decrease
// cute...:)
Intelligence and cuteness don't have such a simple relationship. B-ko's
intelligence is developed directly at the expense of cuteness, she's
always been (and being) somewhat conniving and melodramatic. You can have
cuteness and intelligence, but B-ko's never been sheltered or inclined
thusly.
// And besides, B-Ko is such a great character! Almost as good as...Kodachi! :)
Of course B-ko's a great character. She's easily the most attractive and
intelligent... Acts as both antagonist and protagonist... And maintains
consistancy and directness in the pursuit of her goals. Very, very much
like Kodachi (why am I not surprised :). Of course, I'm obligated to
point out that Nabiki is at least equal in this, and of course has
more depth (something she mostly gets from occuring in Ranma at a larger
frequency than Kodachi) :) But then again I dropped being Nabiki's-advocate
once her fans finally showed up.
Joshua A Reyer
On Tue, 15 Nov 1994 SFUJ...@delphi.com wrote:
> Quoting csci1b07 from a message in rec.arts.anime
> > >Clearly C-ko and Ayumi-sensei are the cute girls. A-ko is too much a
> > >fighter type to really be cute, and B-ko is far too intelligent.
> > Yes, A-ko and B-ko may be "attractive", but they are not cute. Cute
> >is a personality, not neccessarily appearance.
> > C-ko
>
> Agreed. B-ko = beautiful, intelligent, wealthy, and nasty. @_@
> C-ko = cute, cheerful, and somewhat clueless. (the anime character,
> not the guy who posted above)
> A-ko = kinda manly, actually. (although not half as much as a lot of
> other characters in Project A-ko) ^_^
My take:
B-Ko = Out there. Intelligent, yes, but waaaay too vicious for me.
C-ko = Gaah! How can anyone find her cute? She's like a weird
walking Rainbrow Brite or something evil like that!
A-ko = My favorite. I don't find her manly, at all, but more
than that, I'm a sucker for red-heads.
No offense to any B-ko, or C-ko fans out there. Hey, to each his/her own!
Joshua A. Reyer
Actor-at-Large, Animeniac
Trying desperately to keep my
prized Project A-ko tape out of
the hands of my little sister.
"Life is wasted on the living." D. Adams
Keijo Virta
>In article <3a4ntg$h...@lester.appstate.edu>,
>Dov Sherman <AB3...@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU> wrote:
>// In <jsewell-0911...@netport-5.iu.net> jse...@iu.net writes:
>// > talking about full-bore anime fans, but those who pick up "Project A-Ko"
>// > from the video racks because it's a cartoon with two cute girls.)
>//
>// Can you think of a *better* reason to watch Project A-Ko? And waddya mean
>// *TWO* cute girls? Just who are you leaving out, huh?
>Clearly C-ko and Ayumi-sensei are the cute girls. A-ko is too much a
>fighter type to really be cute, and B-ko is far too intelligent.
But,but,A-ko is soo cute with her red hair.... :)
Well,she might be a little violent,but at least she is not build-up
like Mari. ^_-
And B-ko,hmmm,sometimes intelligent its cuteness...
Ayumi-Sensei is cute and C-ko....hmmm...well....i guess you could call
her cute... ^_-
>Brent Ross
Ataru
David 'Dacider' Mayeux Jr
>I don't like this topic either. Hopefully, I can end it now. (Probably
>not.)
>
>In article <jsewell-0911...@netport-5.iu.net>, jse...@iu.net (Joe
>Sewell) wrote:
>
>Yes, there are some folks that watch anime just because it has cute girls.
>There are also those that can't watch an anime show unless it has plenty of
>sex and/or violence in it. I couldn't care less about those fools. These
>are the ones that like to watch Sailor Moon transform in slow motion
>because they hope to catch a glimpse of her naked. I'm sorry, but that
>goes way beyond pathetic.
>
>The bottom line is, there's nothing wrong with the nudity in Ranma 1/2.
>Girls read the comic and watch the anime all the time in Japan, and I don't
>think they go ballistic over it. If you see it as something dirty, then
>that's your problem--Takahashi Rumiko didn't create the series for gaijin
>(like me) anyway.
>
I've seen an episode or two of Sailor Moon and not once have I
ever seen Usagi naked in the series. This goes for all the Sailor
Senshi as well. Please explain your Sailor Moon with the nudity
in Ranma 1/2, because I certainly would like to know.
Dave
jpre...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca
John D Evans <jev...@athena.mit.edu> wrote:
>In article <Cz8H1...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>, bwr...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Kernel Mustard) writes:
>> Dov Sherman <AB3...@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU> wrote:
>> // In <jsewell-0911...@netport-5.iu.net> jse...@iu.net writes:
>> // > (I'm not
>> // > talking about full-bore anime fans, but those who pick up "Project A-Ko"
>> // > from the video racks because it's a cartoon with two cute girls.)
>> //
>> // Can you think of a *better* reason to watch Project A-Ko? And waddya mean
>> // *TWO* cute girls? Just who are you leaving out, huh?
>>
>> Clearly C-ko and Ayumi-sensei are the cute girls. A-ko is too much a
>> fighter type to really be cute, and B-ko is far too intelligent.
>
no... he has a clue. would you like one?
>Ayumi seems too old to be called "cute"...beautiful, sexy, yes, but not cute...
>(of course, that's just my [wrong] interpretation of the word...^_^)
How can you dispute the cuteness of someone so vacant?
>And C-Ko seems to go beyond cute and out the other side...yick. :)
C-Ko is overcute. But she's still cute.
>A-Ko isn't too much of a fighter type...look at the subject header, and you'll
>see this was originally a Ranma 1/2 thread. ;)
Who cares? A-ko is _NOT_ cute, she's NOT, she's NOT, SHE'S NOT!!!
I have spoken.
>And "too intelligent to be cute"? Ooh, hold me back...>:-)
>
>Let me just say this...I've attended classes here at MIT for about 3 months
>now , and there's no doubt in my mind that intelligence does not decrease cute.
> :)
>
>And besides, B-Ko is such a great character! Almost as good as...Kodachi! :)
well, B-ko is a babe, and my favorite chacter from Project A-ko, but she's not
cute. Not that she doesn't have other failings. :)
As far as cute goes..
If you want to figure it out, watch large amounts of anime containing characters
like Hikaru, Nene, or Lum. Or better yet just watch Sailor Moon. Sooner or later
a clue will attack you. Hope you recognize it when it bites. (Don't worry, its
not poisonous.)
[Abusive, pompous, self-rightous flame mode off.]
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Joshua A Reyer
On Tue, 15 Nov 1994 jpre...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca wrote:
> As far as cute goes..
> If you want to figure it out, watch large amounts of anime containing
characters
> like Hikaru, Nene, or Lum. Or better yet just watch Sailor Moon. Sooner or
later
^^^^
> a clue will attack you. Hope you recognize it when it bites. (Don't worry, its
> not poisonous.)
>
>
> [Abusive, pompous, self-rightous flame mode off.]
Okay, I will agree with you there. Nene *is* cute. That clue bit me a
long time ago, and I'm proud to say I hunted it down like a dog, killed
it and now hang it on my wall.
Joshua A. Reyer
Bubblegum Animeniac
"You just leave that to Ol' Uncle Leon...."
Soren F Ragsdale
: >// Can you think of a *better* reason to watch Project A-Ko? And waddya mean
: >// *TWO* cute girls? Just who are you leaving out, huh?
: >Clearly C-ko and Ayumi-sensei are the cute girls. A-ko is too much a
: >fighter type to really be cute, and B-ko is far too intelligent.
: But,but,A-ko is soo cute with her red hair.... :)
Quite true.
: And B-ko,hmmm,sometimes intelligent its cuteness...
Sometimes nothin'. This wasn't her only redeeming feature, however.
: Ayumi-Sensei is cute and C-ko....hmmm...well....i guess you could call
: her cute... ^_-
I never really understood Project A-Ko. Why was C-ko so desireable? She
seemed like a short, obnoxious twit to me. Sorry, but she really annoyed me.
Tomar
John D Evans <jev...@athena.mit.edu> wrote:
>In article <Cz8H1...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>, bwr...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Kernel Mustard) writes:
>|> Dov Sherman <AB3...@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU> wrote:
>|> // In <jsewell-0911...@netport-5.iu.net> jse...@iu.net writes:
>|> // > (I'm not
[stuff clipped]
>|> Clearly C-ko and Ayumi-sensei are the cute girls. A-ko is too much a
>|> fighter type to really be cute, and B-ko is far too intelligent.
>
>I'm afraid you've got it exactly opposite...:)
>
>Ayumi seems too old to be called "cute"...beautiful, sexy, yes, but not cute...
>(of course, that's just my interpretation of the word...^_^)
>
>And C-Ko seems to go beyond cute and out the other side...yick. :)
My teeth ache everyone once in a while when I hear C-ko. Yick is
right. :-)
Remember, sex sells in the US and cute sells in Japan...
>A-Ko isn't too much of a fighter type...look at the subject header, and you'll
>see this was originally a Ranma 1/2 thread. ;)
Being a fighter type isn't all that bad. Remember how many cute girls(Ukyou)
there are(Ukyou) in Ranma 1/2(Ukyou) that can also fight extremely well(Ukyou).
I think I'll go to Spatula City today! :-)
>And "too intelligent to be cute"? Ooh, hold me back...>:-)
>
>Let me just say this...I've attended classes here at MIT for about 3 months now,
>and there's not doubt in my mind that intelligence does not decrease cute...:)
>
>And besides, B-Ko is such a great character! Almost as good as...Kodachi! :)
I have to agree with you on this. I like B-ko just as much as Kodachi but
not because they are intelegence...It's because they both have a
evil laughter that could chill the soul.
--
Tomar: aka to...@iastate.edu
My life quest: To find and watch all Ranma 1/2 episodes I can!!!!
The only obstacle is my limited funds!
Favorite Quote: "Wow...It'll be raining debris for weeks"
Ed Sharpe
>My take:
> B-Ko = Out there. Intelligent, yes, but waaaay too vicious for me.
> C-ko = Gaah! How can anyone find her cute? She's like a weird
> walking Rainbrow Brite or something evil like that!
> A-ko = My favorite. I don't find her manly, at all, but more
> than that, I'm a sucker for red-heads.
My Ex-Wife cured me of red-heads!!! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
//
// esh...@phad.hsc.usc.edu
// You keep using that word.
// I do not think it means what you think it means
// - Inigo Montoya
Joe Sewell
Actually, I was thinking of "cute" as being ONLY appearance, vs.
"beautiful" which must go deeper. "Attractive" also (to me, at least)
implies some inner beauty. Maybe "babe" would've been better? <Gdr>
The two I was thinking of was A-Ko and B-Ko (since B-Ko wears the "bionic
swimsuit" on the video box). C-Ko doesn't strike me as "cute" (or
whatever word you prefer for outward attractiveness). I *did* forget
about Ayumi-sensei, though. OK, make it 3.
Joshua A Reyer
On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Kernel Mustard wrote:
> Cuteness is mostly a state of mind (or lack of mind if you prefer:). If
you've
> got a character with the cute look without the cute personality, you've
> got a character who's attractive (not really cute). Ayumi's personality
> is positively cute.
Okay, okay. Let's settle one thing in this debate once and for all. Is
the above statement how we are going to define cute, or are we talking
cute in the way of attractive/cute that normal people (read: non-anime
characters) can be defined as? Either way, here's my rundown:
Anime Cute:
B-ko: No. She's too tall for one. I defy you to find me a cute
anime character that's not on the short side. Also, she's too mature.
Cute anime girls tend to have a bit of the...well...girl in them. I
mean, how many times have we talked about cute anime women?
A-ko: Whew. Tough call. But, I'll go for not-cute. She has
cute moments, but generally not anime cute.
C-ko: So damn cute she's scary.
Real Life Cute:
B-ko: Yeah. That purple hair gives her an exotic cuteness.
A-ko: Hell yes. Gotta love that red hair...
C-ko: Are you kidding? You're bordering on pedophile if you
think she's RLC.
> Intelligence and cuteness don't have such a simple relationship. B-ko's
> intelligence is developed directly at the expense of cuteness, she's
> always been (and being) somewhat conniving and melodramatic. You can have
> cuteness and intelligence, but B-ko's never been sheltered or inclined
> thusly.
I agree. B-ko is a special case wherein cuteness would have screwed up
the character. However, one can be very cute, yet still intelligent.
Nene is easily the cutest Knight Saber, yet also easily the most intelligent.
Whaddaya think?
Joshua A. Reyer
Actor-at-Large, Red-head loving Animeniac
reye...@maroon.tc.umn.edu
"Life is wasted on the living." D. Adams
It just occured to me what a way out thread this is.
Cool!
SFUJ...@delphi.com
Quoting reye0011 from a message in rec.arts.anime
> Okay, okay. Let's settle one thing in this debate once and for all.
>Is the above statement how we are going to define cute, or are we
>talking cute in the way of attractive/cute that normal people (read:
>non-anime characters) can be defined as? Either way, here's my rundown:
Good call. Yes, I think we're having a conflict of definitions here.
> Anime Cute:
> B-ko: No. She's too tall for one. I defy you to find me a cute
> anime character that's not on the short side. Also, she's too mature.
> Cute anime girls tend to have a bit of the...well...girl in them. I
> mean, how many times have we talked about cute anime women?
Too tall, yes. Also she has narrow eyes, the opposite of the big round eyes
that AC girls have.
Too mature, yes, but also too nasty. AC implies innocence.
> A-ko: Whew. Tough call. But, I'll go for not-cute. She has
> cute moments, but generally not anime cute.
I agree here too. Toughness in general excludes being AC (although you can
be "cute and tough" like Shampoo--I guess it's more to do with attitude
than whether you can break walls with your fists).
> C-ko: So damn cute she's scary.
Run away! Run away!
> Real Life Cute:
> B-ko: Yeah. That purple hair gives her an exotic cuteness.
> A-ko: Hell yes. Gotta love that red hair...
> C-ko: Are you kidding? You're bordering on pedophile if you
> think she's RLC.
I don't find C-ko attractive at all, especially compared to other AC
characters in anime. Maybe she's an intentional over-stereotype of your
typical AC girl? (considering that Project A-ko is a parody of just about
everything)
B-ko, OTOH...
> I agree. B-ko is a special case wherein cuteness would have screwed up
> the character. However, one can be very cute, yet still intelligent.
> Nene is easily the cutest Knight Saber, yet also easily the most
>intelligent.
> Whaddaya think?
> Joshua A. Reyer
> It just occured to me what a way out thread this is.
> Cool!
That's RAA for you. ^_^
I'm not complaining. It beats political discussions that go nowhere or the
idiotic flame-wars that certain groups are prone to. RAA might be filled
with noise, but it's FUN noise...
--Scott
Priss--Sakura--B-ko--Kanuka--Himiko--Hinako--Charlotte
------------------------------------------------------
Thoughts from above hit the people down below
People in this world, we have no place to go
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Nene--Shinobu--C-ko--Noa--Miyu--Hinako--Nakoruru
Benjamin C. Elgin
In article <Pine.3.89.9411161...@maroon.tc.umn.edu>,
reye...@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Joshua A Reyer) wrote:
<..etc..>
> Anime Cute:
>
> B-ko: No. She's too tall for one. I defy you to find me a cute
> anime character that's not on the short side.
Lum's not too short... but maybe that's just standing next to Ataru, who's
no basketball player himself..
> B-ko: Yeah. That purple hair gives her an exotic cuteness.
Likewise Lum's green?
> "Life is wasted on the living." D. Adams
(Nice sig. Doug is a god. ^_^)
> It just occured to me what a way out thread this is.
>
> Cool!
I concur.
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P-Chan
> major female character except Kasumi, Nodoka, and Kodachi.
> For some reason, I find Kodachi rather surprising, though.
No, I'm not. They Ranma-chan is only used for comic effect and all the rest
are bath scenes. Kodachi isn't because there is no opportuinity.
P-Chan
Eric Tang Williamson
>C-Ko is overcute. But she's still cute.
That's it! From now on I'm going to dub my Project A-ko tapes the Legend of the Overcute!
C-ko, of course, is The Overcute...
Hmm.. that makes A-ko Amano.. and B-ko is ???... *sigh*
Terrible thing to have to run video rooms at Animeast.. then being handed a stack of
Urotsukidoji tapes...
Nytefyre!
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John Friese
Joshua A Reyer <reye...@maroon.tc.umn.edu> wrote:
>
> I agree. B-ko is a special case wherein cuteness would have screwed up
>the character. However, one can be very cute, yet still intelligent.
>Nene is easily the cutest Knight Saber, yet also easily the most intelligent.
>
>Whaddaya think?
>
I was going to make a smart remark about this statement being the result of
having read far too often that "brains and good looks" quote found in .sigs,
but realized in time that I have only seen _one_ episode of BGC, so I have
no right to make judgements.
Let's say this: when it comes to all-around technical expertise involving
computers, electronics, communications, what-have-you, Nene is tops. OK?
John L. Friese
fri...@math.arizona.edu
John Friese
>
> > C-ko: So damn cute she's scary.
>
>Run away! Run away!
For some truly bizarre imagery, replace the Vorpal Bunny in "Monty Python
& The Holy Grail" with C-ko Kotobuki.
John L. Friese
fri...@math.arizona.edu
"We'll have to think of something else. That girl's dynamite."
Steven J.M. Perez
: In article <ra1628-11...@222.95.248.7>, ra1...@email.sps.mot.com (Kevin Lew -- "The Lai-Lai Boy") writes...
: Dave
You can't,that's Kev's point.Some fanboy are so bad that a
shadowy outline i enuf'(sp?) for them.
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N.O.V.A
Northen Oregon/Vancover Anime
[New sig. comeing soon]
Coming to you from:Lovely Soldier Sailor Modem^_-
seth opitz
: Lum's not too short... but maybe that's just standing next to Ataru, who's
: no basketball player himself..
Ahh, but how often is Lum actually standing? She's usually floating,
making the tallness a little more illusionary. That's another thing,
her just floating around is rather a bit on the cute side, but how
cute is someone who is constantly throwing lightning bolts a her
boyfriend? I guess that all depends upon wether or not the lightning
bolts are at you, if theyare then to oyou she is not cute, if they
are not hen it seems to enhance the cutness factor. This enhancement
is mkultiplied by the fact that Ataru always walks away. Formulas
anyone?
: > B-ko: Yeah. That purple hair gives her an exotic cuteness.
: Likewise Lum's green?
: > "Life is wasted on the living." D. Adams
: (Nice sig. Doug is a god. ^_^)
Agreed 424242424242424242424242424242424242
Seth
Dov Sherman
> B-ko: No. She's too tall for one. I defy you to find me a cute
> anime character that's not on the short side.
Belldandy? Tendou Kasumi?
> Also, she's too mature.
> Cute anime girls tend to have a bit of the...well...girl in them. I
> mean, how many times have we talked about cute anime women?
MATURE? B-Ko??? You have GOT to be kidding! She may be physically
mature but she's a whiney, petulant brat. Is it mature to try to
continue a fight left over from kindergarten? Is it mature to
use absurd amounts of yen building mechas so you can fight over
a girl who's not interested anyway?
Sure, she's highly intelligent but I don't think that counts for or
against cuteness because intelligence doesn't imply maturity.
> A-ko: Whew. Tough call. But, I'll go for not-cute. She has
> cute moments, but generally not anime cute.
Physically cute (course, I'm a sucker for redheads) but definitely
the most mature of the three of them so not really "personality" cute.
> C-ko: So damn cute she's scary.
Terminally cute! I like her as a character but I think I couldn't stand to
be around a real person like that for very long without an intense urge
to leap out a window.
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Joshua A Reyer
On Mon, 21 Nov 1994, seth opitz wrote:
> : Lum's not too short... but maybe that's just standing next to Ataru, who's
> : no basketball player himself..
>
> Ahh, but how often is Lum actually standing? She's usually floating,
> making the tallness a little more illusionary. That's another thing,
> her just floating around is rather a bit on the cute side, but how
> cute is someone who is constantly throwing lightning bolts a her
> boyfriend? I guess that all depends upon wether or not the lightning
> bolts are at you, if theyare then to oyou she is not cute, if they
> are not hen it seems to enhance the cutness factor. This enhancement
> is mkultiplied by the fact that Ataru always walks away. Formulas
> anyone?
Okay, the only real taste I got of Urusei Yatsura was a long clip at the
end of "Dagger of Ka Mui". God, that had me ROTFLOL! Anyway, I can't
delve too far into this, because I haven't seen the whole series. (I
have the feeling this thread's gonna switch from Ranma 1/2, to A-ko, to
Urusei Yatsura.) Anywhatnot, compared to B-ko, I'll concede that Lum is
a bit tall, (well, more like long, since she's floating most of the
time) and is still Anime Cute. I guess I just have to break down and
admit that....
LUM'S THE EXCEPTION THAT PROVES THE RULE!!!!! BWA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Thank you. Now that that's out of my system, let's move on to the other
possible UY character that throws a monkey wrench in our little
discussion here: I'm speaking of course, of Shinobu! Wow! Now she's
cute. But she's also tough. Question is: AC or RLC? I leave the
answers to you, fellow R.A.A.ers. Will we have to redefine our standards
that were set with A-ko?
> : > "Life is wasted on the living." D. Adams
>
> : (Nice sig. Doug is a god. ^_^)
Thanks.
> Agreed 424242424242424242424242424242424242
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Seth
Thanks again.
Now, what was the question?
Joshua A. Reyer
Actor-at-Large, Animeniac
"Life is wasted on the living." D. Adams
"Also blamed in this matter are Ataru's family. Residents of the
neighborhood are talking of a lynching...." UY news report (not sure if
it's an exact quote.
Joshua A Reyer
On Tue, 22 Nov 1994, Dov Sherman wrote:
> In <Pine.3.89.9411161...@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
> reye...@maroon.tc.umn.edu writes:
>
> > B-ko: No. She's too tall for one. I defy you to find me a cute
> > anime character that's not on the short side.
> Belldandy? Tendou Kasumi?
I don't know Tendou Kasumi, but I've seen Belldandy, and I'd have to say:
thumbs down. Not Anime Cute. Maybe, Real World Cute, but not AC.
> > Also, she's too mature.
> > Cute anime girls tend to have a bit of the...well...girl in them. I
> > mean, how many times have we talked about cute anime women?
>
> MATURE? B-Ko??? You have GOT to be kidding! She may be physically
> mature but she's a whiney, petulant brat. Is it mature to try to
> continue a fight left over from kindergarten? Is it mature to
> use absurd amounts of yen building mechas so you can fight over
> a girl who's not interested anyway?
> Sure, she's highly intelligent but I don't think that counts for or
> against cuteness because intelligence doesn't imply maturity.
Okay, do me a favor. Get Project A-ko and watch the B-ko bath scene.
Then tell me she's not mature (and I'm not just talking physically,
here). Also, remember what her original motivation for wiping A-ko out
was. I think the whole Yurikago deal was icing on the cake.
> > A-ko: Whew. Tough call. But, I'll go for not-cute. She has
> > cute moments, but generally not anime cute.
>
> Physically cute (course, I'm a sucker for redheads) but definitely
> the most mature of the three of them so not really "personality" cute.
Dov Sherman! We are brothers!! Redhead lovers of the world unite! A-ko
Magami is our goddess! Onward, march!
> > C-ko: So damn cute she's scary.
>
> Terminally cute! I like her as a character but I think I couldn't stand to
> be around a real person like that for very long without an intense urge
> to leap out a window.
Or throw her thusly. Incidently, you answered a lot of my Anime Cute
explanations with Real World rebuttals. That's what my Real World Cute
table was there for.
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Nice sig.
Joshua A. Reyer
Actor-at-Large, Animeniac
reye...@maroon.tc.umn.edu
"Life is wasted on the living." D. Adams
"You're not very good are you? How *cute*!" C-ko (shudder)
Benjamin C. Elgin
sop...@scott.skidmore.edu (seth opitz) wrote:
> : Lum's not too short... but maybe that's just standing next to Ataru, who's
> : no basketball player himself..
>
> Ahh, but how often is Lum actually standing? She's usually floating,
> making the tallness a little more illusionary. That's another thing,
> her just floating around is rather a bit on the cute side, but how
> cute is someone who is constantly throwing lightning bolts a her
> boyfriend? I guess that all depends upon wether or not the lightning
> bolts are at you, if theyare then to oyou she is not cute, if they
> are not hen it seems to enhance the cutness factor. This enhancement
> is mkultiplied by the fact that Ataru always walks away. Formulas
> anyone?
Formaulas? hmm..ok, how about:
C(L) = MW * |sin(theta/2)| * d
where C(L) is Lum's cuteness, MW is megawatts of voltage she shoots, theta
is the angle away from you of her blast, and d is the distance Ataru runs
in the next 10 seconds. ^_^