Evangelion episode 5 comments [SPOILERS!]
Enrique Conty
- Brake jets on the power plug: think about *that* the
next time you see a Gundam casually toss a beam rifle away.
- Parts of the Angel are composed of a material which has properties of
both particles and waves. Well, gee, you've just described photons.
- The Angel's genetic code matches that of humans to 99.89%, but the
component elements are different? Is this *possible*? In theory,
you could create a biochemistry based on ammonia or silicon instead
of carbon, but what is the likelihood that a genetic code based on
those would match ours to 99.89% precision? Were we an experiment
based on the Disciples' own makeup? Were both races based on a third one?
- The computers are named Balthazar, Melchor, and... Gaspar, I bet.
The Three Wise Men that brought gifts to Jesus at his birth.
- Maybe we should just feed the Angels with Misato's curry and save
a bundle on R&D costs...
- "Rei is a good girl, although like your father she isn't good at... living."
Perhaps this is why they have such a bond with each other.
Depending how I look at her, Rei is either very scary or very sad.
She seems to be resigned to a fate in which she dies violently, and soon.
As a result, she stopped caring about life. She doesn't bother to clean
her place since she won't have to deal with it much longer. She doesn't
say "later" or "see you", but "goodbye". Ironic that her name means
"spirit", since she has none.
- I love it how the previews only spoil those things you already KNOW are
going to happen anyway... ^o^
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>- Brake jets on the power plug: think about *that* the
> next time you see a Gundam casually toss a beam rifle away.
With spent casings killing civilians like they show in Gundam F91,
a falling rifle is the least of your worries.
>- Parts of the Angel are composed of a material which has properties of
> both particles and waves. Well, gee, you've just described photons.
Don't most existing matter have both properties to an extent?
>- Maybe we should just feed the Angels with Misato's curry and save
> a bundle on R&D costs...
^^;
> She seems to be resigned to a fate in which she dies violently, and soon.
The scene where she is obviously saving Shinji's life at the cost
of her own in episode 6 was touching. Even more so was Shinji's
dialogue when he pulls her out of the scorching hot pod (in a
parallel of what Gendou does to rescue her in an earlier episode).
Rei: "You won't die. I'll protect you."
Shinji: "Don't say so easily that you have noone around you!"
> As a result, she stopped caring about life. She doesn't bother to clean
> her place since she won't have to deal with it much longer. She doesn't
> say "later" or "see you", but "goodbye". Ironic that her name means
> "spirit", since she has none.
The casual attitude she has when it comes to herself is indeed
scary. She doesn't even blink or blush when Shinji catches her
naked, for one.
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John Blankenship
>- The Angel's genetic code matches that of humans to 99.89%, but the
> component elements are different? Is this *possible*? In theory,
> you could create a biochemistry based on ammonia or silicon instead
> of carbon, but what is the likelihood that a genetic code based on
> those would match ours to 99.89% precision? Were we an experiment
> based on the Disciples' own makeup? Were both races based on a third one?
It depends on how you look at it. If they are only talking about matching
_sequence data_ (ie CGATTTAATTAGCGGC), conceivably they could use some
other molecules to carry the sequence; however, as so much of gene
expression is related to the chemistry of DNA, and the proteins that
relate to it, and the geometry of the DNA inside the cell, I'd find it
pretty unlikely that they could match it all with a completely different
set of molecules. (Why fix it if it isn't broke?)
As for the latter two questions, I'd say that they are trying their
darnest to imply so..
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Wai Leung Chow
: Conty writes:
: >- The Angel's genetic code matches that of humans to 99.89%, but the
: > component elements are different? Is this *possible*? In theory,
: > you could create a biochemistry based on ammonia or silicon instead
: > of carbon, but what is the likelihood that a genetic code based on
: > those would match ours to 99.89% precision? Were we an experiment
: > based on the Disciples' own makeup? Were both races based on a third one?
: It depends on how you look at it. If they are only talking about matching
: _sequence data_ (ie CGATTTAATTAGCGGC), conceivably they could use some
: other molecules to carry the sequence; however, as so much of gene
: expression is related to the chemistry of DNA, and the proteins that
: relate to it, and the geometry of the DNA inside the cell, I'd find it
: pretty unlikely that they could match it all with a completely different
: set of molecules. (Why fix it if it isn't broke?)
So unlikely that it is impossible. The structure of chromosomes depends
on what is known as writhe and turn on the supercoiled DNA helix. This
depends largely on the nature of the phosphate backbone and the specific
base pairings that occur. If one were to substitute a different type of
molecule instead of adenine, thymine, guanine, or cytosine, one would
obtain a very different sort of structure which would not be supercoiled
the way that DNA is.
Also, the base pairings of DNA allow for an assymetric structure,
resulting in a major and minor groove. Many enzymes use the major groove
for recognition purposes (i.e. repressors or enhancers), so changing the
topological properties of DNA would be disasterous for many transcription
related activities, and this would result in no gene expression.
A life form that would be based on a silicon sort of "DNA" would
require a totally different type of biochemistry, and to suggest that
this biochemistry is even 90% similar to ours is ludicrous since
radically different types of "enzymes" would be required in such a system.
Just think of what would be different in silicon based life: the melting
temperature of all the compounds would be different, the solubilities
would be different, the nature of the bonds would be different.
A big problem with using silicon instead of carbon is that it tends to
crystalize easily, so it would be difficult to form lipid bilayers I
suppose, although I am no expert at silicon chemistry.
In short, the information carried around in our DNA is not simply
easily transferable data. It is chemically specific for carbon based
life, and to a certain extent it is species specific also. Information
that works on carbon based life will be equivalent to nonsense to silicon
based life, if it can exist.
Enrique Conty
> scary. She doesn't even blink or blush when Shinji catches her
> naked, for one.
She doesn't care what happens to her at all. I've been there, and I can
tell you it's a very dangerous state of mind, the kind that can get you
killed fast...
What Rei doesn't understand yet is that people *do* care about what happens
to her, that peoples' lives would be diminished if she were to go away,
in short, that people *do* love her.