Anime OFF the big three
Benjamin Turner
WNYC-31, *LOVE* showing foreign programming. Instead of getting some
rotten American voice actors and dubbing, they should subtitle it and
put it on PBS. And PBS doesn't have to hack out the Sailor Senshi
transformation sequences. And PBS can make a truck-load of money
selling subtitled videos. Can you imagine how much they made selling
the Civil War series?! Can you imagine how much they WOULD make selling
Sailor Moon episodes?!?!?! I already get my British comedy from PBS,
why not Japanese animation, too? Face it, most of the stuff on network
tv is crap anyway. Networks are crap magnets. PBS isn't for everyone,
of course, but they could attract a whole new audience with Anime. You
guys would donate to a public station airing Sailor Moon, right? I sure
as hell would.
-Benjamin Turner, The Sixth Planeteer, Otaku-Wannabe
AMNE...@ulkyvm.louisville.edu
Who and Red Dwarf. I sure as hell would not mind paying even more for some
anime (SAILOR MOON, DRAGONBALL, whatever...) considering how much I already
spend on anime tapes in a six month period. I know that a lot of otakus out
there are also fans of British shows like Doctor Who, Red Dwarf, Blakes 7 etc.
For anyone out there who thinks this would encourage a maintsream influx of
anime then you are totally WRONG!!! I've tried showing friends who(love a lot
of mainstream science fiction like ST:TNG and STAR WARS) DOCTOR WHO and they
refuse to watch more than 5 minutes of it. Same thing for Red Dwarf and I'm
sure it would be the same way for anime shows or movies.
Anyone who has any opinions (support,flames, inbetweeners) on the subject
PLEASE post them or contact me directly... especially anyone in the Louisville,
Ky area so we can try to get WKPC to follow Ben Turner's idea!
Aaron Newton
<amne...@ulkyvm.louisville.edu>
Kernel Mustard
Benjamin Turner <benjami...@accbbs.com> wrote:
// Why not put it on PBS? The PBS stations in New York, especially
// WNYC-31, *LOVE* showing foreign programming. Instead of getting some
// rotten American voice actors and dubbing, they should subtitle it and
// put it on PBS. And PBS doesn't have to hack out the Sailor Senshi
// transformation sequences. And PBS can make a truck-load of money
// selling subtitled videos. Can you imagine how much they made selling
// the Civil War series?! Can you imagine how much they WOULD make selling
// Sailor Moon episodes?!?!?!
One slight problem with this. Sailor Moon on any station in the US would
have to be dubbed. The simple fact being that the intended audience is
young girls, and young people arn't typically interested in reading while
they watch TV (I don't think this is true only in America... I have little
doubt that if you took some American cartoons to Japan and subtitled them
you'd probably get a similar response.) My, conclusion is that shows
like Sailor Moon are, perhaps, best left off American TV entirely. Now
if PBS were to be interested in presenting subtitled anime they would
probably want to do something more cultural and adult (Grave springs to
mind).
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Zachary Adams
local PBS (KERA-13 in Dallas), despite the fact that my parents are members
for exactly the reasons you mentioned-Dr. Who, Blake's and RD. Here's one
supporter...now what we need is the adress for the national PBS office (if
there is one) so we can get a campaign started. Shoot, we could flood the
mailbox so heavily that they'd *have* to if word got out enough (well, not have
to, but you get the drift). Maybe they could even replace the Purple One with
good children's anime!
Peace and long life,
Zach.
Benjamin Turner
-> for Doctor Who and Red Dwarf. I sure as hell would not mind paying
-> even more for some anime (SAILOR MOON, DRAGONBALL, whatever...)
-> considering how much I already spend on anime tapes in a six month
-> period. I know that a lot of otakus out there are also fans of
-> British shows like Doctor Who, Red Dwarf, Blakes 7 etc. For anyone
-> out there who thinks this would encourage a maintsream influx of
-> anime then you are totally WRONG!!! I've tried showing friends
-> who(love a lot of mainstream science fiction like ST:TNG and STAR
-> WARS) DOCTOR WHO and they refuse to watch more than 5 minutes of it.
-> Same thing for Red Dwarf and I'm sure it would be the same way for
-> anime shows or movies.
I don't yet donate to any local PBS station (I'm only 16) but my mom
does. I'm thinking of donating to the one that *USED TO* show Red
Dwarf, and requesting that they put it back on. My other faves are The
Young Ones, Black Adder, and Brittas Empire. If they put on Anime, I'd
*DEFINITELY* donate. Probably more than the base rate, also.
Benjamin Turner
-> would have to be dubbed. The simple fact being that the intended
-> audience is young girls, and young people arn't typically interested
-> in reading while they watch TV (I don't think this is true only in
-> America... I have little doubt that if you took some American
-> cartoons to Japan and subtitled them you'd probably get a similar
-> response.) My, conclusion is that shows like Sailor Moon are,
-> perhaps, best left off American TV entirely. Now if PBS were to be
-> interested in presenting subtitled anime they would probably want to
-> do something more cultural and adult (Grave springs to mind).
I don't know about that. How old is the target audience? About 14,
right? Hell, I'm 16, and I have *NO* problem with reading subtitles
while I watch Anime. If the show is good enough, it's a small sacrifice
to make. Though I would also have no problem with leaving it off
American TV altogether. I've heard too many horror stories about bad
American voice actors in dubs.
-Benjamin Turner, The Sixth Planteer, Otaku-Wannabe
Benjamin Turner
-> local PBS (KERA-13 in Dallas), despite the fact that my parents are
-> members for exactly the reasons you mentioned-Dr. Who, Blake's and
-> RD. Here's one supporter...now what we need is the adress for the
-> national PBS office (if there is one) so we can get a campaign
-> started. Shoot, we could flood the mailbox so heavily that they'd
-> *have* to if word got out enough (well, not have to, but you get the
-> drift). Maybe they could even replace the Purple One with good
-> children's anime!
YAY!!! I don't think there is an address for any national office. I
think they mostly work individually, with funding from the Nation Public
Broadcasting Fund or something like that. But if a lot of people tell
their local stations about it, it's bound to catch on and spread. The
same way one station did the Civil War series, and it was played across
the country. I'm planning on subscribing to one of the three local
stations (the one that ONLY does international programming) and
requesting that they show some Anime. Hopefully others will also.
Neil Morris
(Benjamin Turner) writes:
>
> -> One slight problem with this. Sailor Moon on any station in the US
> -> would have to be dubbed. The simple fact being that the intended
> -> audience is young girls, and young people arn't typically interested
> -> in reading while they watch TV
>
> I don't know about that. How old is the target audience? About 14,
> right?
Haaa!! Haaa!!! HAAAAA!!!!
(Hint: Get hold of some copies of Sailor Moon with the adverts still
included. You will then see that it is aimed at a very similar
age/gender group to My Little Pony!!!)
8 would probably be a slightly high estimate.
(This is not another anti-Sailor Moon rant, but I don't think we should
delude ourselves about the nature of what we watch)
> Hell, I'm 16, and I have *NO* problem with reading subtitles while
> I watch Anime.
Actually this makes an OldGit(tm) like me feel really good. You are the
future of anime fandom, and while there are guys like you out there,
there is hope for subtitled, commercial anime releases.
> -> (I don't think this is true only in America... I have little doubt
> -> that if you took some American cartoons to Japan and subtitled
> -> them you'd probably get a similar response.)
Well, in the Netherlands, I saw some American kiddie cartoons with the
original soundtrack, subtitled in Dutch...
--
Neil Morris
ne...@linkmsd.com
davi...@imap1.asu.edu
: Why not put it on PBS? The PBS stations in New York, especially
: WNYC-31, *LOVE* showing foreign programming. Instead of getting some
: rotten American voice actors and dubbing, they should subtitle it and
: put it on PBS.
Here's why not: MONEY! Sailor Moon is a very hot property in Japan. Do
you think Bandai will let it go for a price PBS will be willing to pay?
I don't.
:And PBS doesn't have to hack out the Sailor Senshi transformation sequences.
: And PBS can make a truck-load of money: selling subtitled videos. Can you
: imagine how much they made selling the Civil War series?!
: Can you imagine how much they WOULD make selling
: Sailor Moon episodes?!?!?! I already get my British comedy from PBS,
: why not Japanese animation, too?
PBS is supposed to be a not for profit operation. They don't make any
money off of
mechandising, and some people are still critical over all the Sesame St.
product out there. Merchandising is an integral part of Sailor Moon.
The owners won't give that up.
Additionally, I am sure that fine members of congress might not like some
of the stuff in Sailor Moon being shown to young, impressionable children
(Cross-dressing, non-Christian religions and homosexuality just to start
with). You guys are all thinking like rational beings. Try thinking like
Jesse Helms and you'll see the problems of bringing Usagi & her friends
to the U.S.
David "No Nickname" Crowe Got a couple of prisoners...
If they're still alive.
-The Spider