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Giovanni Wassen

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Dec 24, 2009, 5:48:33 AM12/24/09
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Okay, tell me, it's it worth my (cash and) time?

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Blade

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Dec 24, 2009, 6:47:15 AM12/24/09
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"Giovanni Wassen" <ext...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Okay, tell me, it's it worth my (cash and) time?

Do you like Occult/Shonen Fighting shows? If so, it's basically like Bleach,
only a decade earlier. It has a rather abruptly jarring tone/style shift
early on as the author realised they were onto a potential cash cow and
leaped gleefully into making some popular former enemies into heroes and
promptly started up a huge tournament arc, so caveat emptor if you don't
like tournaments or will be dismayed when totally evil psychopathic demons
abruptly turn into cool antiheroes. With that said, it had some rather
interesting and (at the time) unstereotyped heroes - though all the basic
archetypes have been copied since - and a lot of really weird and creative
villain designs. It was also, before Bleach, the absolute king of the "hero
wins fights because he just refuses to stay down, regardless of rhyme or
reason" style of fight plotting, which was even more perplexing given that
the other characters have more creative battles. Overall, it's definitely
not bad if you like the genre(s), but not likely to overly impress you if
you don't (though you might enjoy the more adventure-y first season).

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Blade

Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Dec 24, 2009, 11:49:36 AM12/24/09
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Blade wrote:
>
>
> "Giovanni Wassen" <ext...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CEB78354E...@188.40.43.213...
>> Okay, tell me, it's it worth my (cash and) time?
>
> Do you like Occult/Shonen Fighting shows? If so, it's basically like
> Bleach, only a decade earlier. It has a rather abruptly jarring
> tone/style shift early on as the author realised they were onto a
> potential cash cow and leaped gleefully into making some popular former
> enemies into heroes and promptly started up a huge tournament arc, so
> caveat emptor if you don't like tournaments or will be dismayed when
> totally evil psychopathic demons abruptly turn into cool antiheroes.
> With that said, it had some rather interesting and (at the time)
> unstereotyped heroes - though all the basic archetypes have been copied
> since - and a lot of really weird and creative villain designs. It was
> also, before Bleach, the absolute king of the "hero wins fights because
> he just refuses to stay down, regardless of rhyme or reason" style of
> fight plotting,


Er, that would be Saint Seiya, which began the whole God-Warrior
subgenre. Seiya was known as the Cockroach Saint, the Timex Saint, and
-- for his tendency to find cliffs -- the Lemming Saint for a reason.


"I've BROKEN EVERY SINGLE BONE IN YOUR BODY! How are you still MOVING??"

"My Mission... Athena... Argh.."

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Giovanni Wassen

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Dec 29, 2009, 11:14:49 AM12/29/09
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Blade wrote:

> Do you like Occult/Shonen Fighting shows? If so, it's basically like
> Bleach, only a decade earlier. It has a rather abruptly jarring
> tone/style shift early on as the author realised they were onto a
> potential cash cow and leaped gleefully into making some popular
> former enemies into heroes and promptly started up a huge tournament
> arc, so caveat emptor if you don't like tournaments or will be
> dismayed when totally evil psychopathic demons abruptly turn into cool
> antiheroes. With that said, it had some rather interesting and (at the
> time) unstereotyped heroes - though all the basic archetypes have been
> copied since - and a lot of really weird and creative villain designs.
> It was also, before Bleach, the absolute king of the "hero wins fights
> because he just refuses to stay down, regardless of rhyme or reason"
> style of fight plotting, which was even more perplexing given that the
> other characters have more creative battles. Overall, it's definitely
> not bad if you like the genre(s), but not likely to overly impress you
> if you don't (though you might enjoy the more adventure-y first
> season).

Thanks for the info. It sounds okayish at least. I've watched the first
five episodes as a fansub and liked it enough. So now I have to wait for
the four seasonboxes to arrive.

Hand-of-Omega

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Dec 30, 2009, 3:44:32 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 24, 5:48 am, Giovanni Wassen <exta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay, tell me, it's it worth my (cash and) time?
>
> -

Definitely! IF you're a fan of shonen fighting series, at least. It
has the usual kind of Monster of the Day, Split Up To Fight
Increasingly Powerful Bad Guys, and the Tournament Arc, but it doesn't
really feel cliched. It's certainly not the first series to have
these, but I think it's early enough before they all became bog
standard...

It's also interesting to note that this show has perhaps the highest
Power Levels of any shonen series, short of DBZ; no planets are
destroyed, but later on, mountains are casually demolished by the
fighting. Of what I've seen, I'd say only Fist of the North Star comes
close...but then, I've never seen much Saint Seiya!^_~

Blade compared YYH to Bleach; IIRC, Bleach was turned down by at least
one published for being too similar to YYH, so he's not alone in this.
Personally, while I like YYH, I think a better series is Hunter X
Hunter. The manga is from the same creator as YYH, and the anime is
directed by the man who brought up the Rouroni Kenshin anime. HXH
features pretty high powered action, but is noteworthy for possibly
the most creative combat/contests I've ever seen in an anime! It
really rewards paying attention to the conditions that govern the
characters' powers and skills...It also has some really clever and
likable character designs. It could quite easily have been an early
Naruto, if it had been handled differently...It's being released now,
tho I'm not sure how much of it is available yet.

Dex

Giovanni Wassen

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:45:42 PM12/30/09
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Hand-of-Omega wrote:

> Blade compared YYH to Bleach; IIRC, Bleach was turned down by at least
> one published for being too similar to YYH, so he's not alone in this.
> Personally, while I like YYH, I think a better series is Hunter X
> Hunter. The manga is from the same creator as YYH, and the anime is
> directed by the man who brought up the Rouroni Kenshin anime. HXH
> features pretty high powered action, but is noteworthy for possibly
> the most creative combat/contests I've ever seen in an anime! It
> really rewards paying attention to the conditions that govern the
> characters' powers and skills...It also has some really clever and
> likable character designs. It could quite easily have been an early
> Naruto, if it had been handled differently...It's being released now,
> tho I'm not sure how much of it is available yet.

The whole series of HxH is available (the tv-series, not the OVA's). I've
seen the whole of HxH and liked it.

Terrence Briggs

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Jan 3, 2010, 12:48:49 AM1/3/10
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The first five episodes are TOTALLY DIFFERENT IN TONE from the rest of
the series. The show becomes a shonen fighting series after Ep. 6 or
something. At least... it did on Cartoon Network Adult Swim when it
aired in 2001 or so.

> Gio
>
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Terrence Briggs
Peace to you...

Jack Bohn

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:18:06 PM1/3/10
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Terrence Briggs wrote:

IIRC, after the first five episodes (The Adventures of a Dead
Boy) they almost veered into Ghost Detective for a while, with
various named (and salable) pieces of equipment. Then he started
to learn tournament fighting.

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-Jack

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