Slayers WILL be on TV!
Geoffrey L. Wertime
Gourry.. "LIIIIINNNNAAAAAAAAA!!!!"
http://www.rightstuf.com/main.shtml
"Slayers goes TV!
For those of you who might not have heard, Central Park Media has cut a deal
with Fox to bring the Slayers series to the Fox Kids Line-up. The show will
begin airing in February. Check your local listings for further details! "
-Geoff (remove Bob to e-mail)
"Why do they lock gas station bathrooms? Are they afraid someone will clean
them?"
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fulhous
"Geoffrey L. Wertime" wrote:
>
> It's going to be on Fox Kids! What will they DO to my beloved anime?! To quote
> Gourry.. "LIIIIINNNNAAAAAAAAA!!!!"
And to quote Shatner: KHANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!
I cannot beleive it is hapening. When TVGuy mentioned this, I brushed
it off as a mere rumor, but now... Oh, please someone hold me.
Is there anything we can do about this, such as build giant robots
and level FOX headquaters with them?
Crow_T_Bard who suspects the person behind it is none other than
"Emperor Ming, The Merciless"
"Suddenly there was no trail. There was no giant, no monster,
no thing called Douglas to be followed. There was nothing in the
tunnel but the puzzled men of courage who suddenly found themselves
alone with shadows and darkness. Frank Douglas was rescued alive,
well, and of normal size some 800 miles away."
The "ending" to Monster a-Go-Go
Leaping Larry Jojo
lati...@aol.comBob (Geoffrey L. Wertime) wrote:
> It's going to be on Fox Kids! What will they DO to my beloved anime?!
To quote
> Gourry.. "LIIIIINNNNAAAAAAAAA!!!!"
>
> http://www.rightstuf.com/main.shtml
Fine. Gives me a reason to wake up on Saturdays for one week in
February. We'll see after that.
Jojo
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Leaping Larry Jojo
fulhous <nospam-...@home.com> wrote:
>
>
> "Geoffrey L. Wertime" wrote:
> >
> > It's going to be on Fox Kids! What will they DO to my beloved
anime?! To quote
> > Gourry.. "LIIIIINNNNAAAAAAAAA!!!!"
>
> And to quote Shatner: KHANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!
> I cannot beleive it is hapening. When TVGuy mentioned this, I brushed
> it off as a mere rumor, but now... Oh, please someone hold me.
> Is there anything we can do about this, such as build giant robots
> and level FOX headquaters with them?
Why? The sub is already available.
Mecánico Taco
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790
have to worry.
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Pipian
broken off at her side>
No! Those bastards did it! They really DID it!
<Pipian punches the ground>
WHY L-SAMA?!?!?!?! WHY???????? Damn the executives to hell!
Err, anyway, there's still unedited subs/dubs on video and DVD, so let's be
thankful for that. Let us just pray that L-Sama save those poor souls who
watch Slayers on Fox.
<Pipian shivers in fear of Lina calling out "BUNNY SLAVE!">
(If we're lucky, it'll cancel like Escaflowne and maybe Cartoon Network will
pick up the contract and fix that up ;-))
Dennis O'Connor
> news:20010131203529...@ng-mn1.aol.com...
> > It's going to be on Fox Kids!
>
> Jeez, I'm afraid. I'm afraid of what they're gonna do to it.
Take out the blood (though rare). Take out all the breast-size
references. Take out all the bathing scenes. Take out all the
times Lina wastes a city. Take out almost all the times Lina
beats on Gourry for no reason. Take out all mention of
Lina's powers being black magic, and coming from the Makozu.
Take out the evil gleam Lina gets in her eyes when casting
a dragon slave. Take out Lina actually killing people. Take
out Xellos being a Mazoku ...
The real question is, once they've dumbed it down and
cleaned it up, what of any value will they leave in ?
--
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Vanity Web Page: http://www.primenet.com/~dmoc/
Kyle Thomas Pope
<dm...@primenet.com> wrote:
>Take out the blood (though rare). Take out all the breast-size
>references. Take out all the bathing scenes. Take out all the
>times Lina wastes a city. Take out almost all the times Lina
>beats on Gourry for no reason. Take out all mention of
>Lina's powers being black magic, and coming from the Makozu.
>Take out the evil gleam Lina gets in her eyes when casting
>a dragon slave. Take out Lina actually killing people. Take
>out Xellos being a Mazoku ...
Not to mention Lina's "periodic" loss of her magic.
Kyle
"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered." - No. 6
David Crowe
: <Pipian appears before a slightly destroyed Lina statue with a giant arm
: broken off at her side>
: No! Those bastards did it! They really DID it!
: <Pipian punches the ground>
: WHY L-SAMA?!?!?!?! WHY???????? Damn the executives to hell!
: Err, anyway, there's still unedited subs/dubs on video and DVD, so let's be
: thankful for that. Let us just pray that L-Sama save those poor souls who
: watch Slayers on Fox.
Why? They'll see something that is much better than NASCAR Racers, even
with edits. And some will pick up the tapes and DVDs and learn what they
were missing. And some will stay on to see other anime and become fans.
But some people don't like that idea, elitist prigs who feel that anime is
only for the kewl few.
The furor over cuts makes absolutely no sense. Just about every movie on
TV is edited for television, and that doesn't diminish the fact that is is
still uncut on video. Grow up people.
--
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But I can't reach my internet newsgroup to *complain*!
Worst punishment ever!"
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Benjamin D. Hutchins
>>
>> Jeez, I'm afraid. I'm afraid of what they're gonna do to it.
>
>references.
... And this, in particular, would be a loss because... ?
--G.
never thought that joke was funny anyway
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It's gonna suck big time!
I'm betting FK will cancel it after a month's worth of butchered
episodes, who's gamed?
Arigatoo to Sayonara,
.. A Chris Sobieniak Concept!
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Dennis O'Connor
> Dennis O'Connor <dm...@primenet.com> wrote:
> >"Mecánico Taco" <js...@reachone.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jeez, I'm afraid. I'm afraid of what they're gonna do to it.
> >
> > Take out all the breast-size references.
>
> ... And this, in particular, would be a loss because... ?
Lina Inverse's insecurity about her own appearance
and sexuality is an important part of the character.
It's the only thing that explains how someone so
intelligent and self-confident can be in denial about
the relationship she has with Gourry. Without her
insecurity and innocence, she's just another
stereotypical 9th-grade AD&D player-character.
The "flat-chested" jokes (as well as the quivering-
Jell-O-mold breasts of Martina and Naga) are also a
jab at the ridiculous overdevelopment of stereotypical
anime heroines, since Lina could only be
considered "flat chested" in a world where
everyone (even 14-yr olds) is D-cup or better,
and gravity is negated above a woman's waist.
Matt A.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Fox is going to get their butts whooped.
And just to compare, I'm going to watch what they run of the first episode,
then throw in my tape and watch it over....I sense major edits coming.
-Matt
"Geoffrey L. Wertime" <lati...@aol.comBob> wrote in message
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Wyvern
"Geoffrey L. Wertime" <lati...@aol.comBob> wrote in message
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quote
> Gourry.. "LIIIIINNNNAAAAAAAAA!!!!"
It's gonna be scary,kids. Scary and sad. This is the network that
ceaselessly promotes Los Luchadores (spanish for "Will not last more than
four episodes") for crissakes. One cannot expect much intellegence from
these guys. Look for lots of needless cuts as they try to simplfy the whole
complex Slayers cosmology for the kids, and I bet they'll do something about
the whole thing with Sylphiel's crush on Gourry as well. Not that I think
it'll even make it that far before they can it. Hopefully they'll at least
let it get to episode ten, wich would have made a dandy final episode if
Slayers had been just a short OAV series. Oh well. I hope they don't replace
the music, and if they do, I really hope they don't have stupid vocals in
every fight scene like on Digimon. Rest assured, that, having seen all of
the first two series and alot of the third, I'll be writing amusing and
President-Bush-Ridiculing edit lists. And they'll be very, very long.
FOX KIDS UPDATE: The Big Guy and Rusty the Boy Robot is back. And it's title
still brings up images of strange, illegal gay porn.
> http://www.rightstuf.com/main.shtml
>
> "Slayers goes TV!
> For those of you who might not have heard, Central Park Media has cut a
deal
> with Fox to bring the Slayers series to the Fox Kids Line-up. The show
will
> begin airing in February. Check your local listings for further details! "
To hell with local listings. Just watch Digimon and they'll be sure to hype
it there. It looks like a good chunk of episodes are coming up,too. See
Veemon reach the Ultimate Stage! Again! Considering that Veemon has already
reached 615 different stages, it should be quite an event. Also,every scene
that was originally without dialouge will now have a joke about pizza and/or
Davis forgetting TK's name. Don't miss it.
-Wyvern
Ethan Hammond
>
> It's going to be on Fox Kids! What will they DO to my beloved anime?! To quote
> Gourry.. "LIIIIINNNNAAAAAAAAA!!!!"
>
> http://www.rightstuf.com/main.shtml
>
> "Slayers goes TV!
> For those of you who might not have heard, Central Park Media has cut a deal
> with Fox to bring the Slayers series to the Fox Kids Line-up. The show will
> begin airing in February. Check your local listings for further details! "
To air longer than Escaflowne or not air longer than Escaflowne that is
the question. :)
--
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http://www.angelfire.com/tx/apcr/index.html
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
>
>
> "Geoffrey L. Wertime" wrote:
> >
> > It's going to be on Fox Kids! What will they DO to my beloved anime?! To quote
> > Gourry.. "LIIIIINNNNAAAAAAAAA!!!!"
>
> And to quote Shatner: KHANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!
> I cannot beleive it is hapening. When TVGuy mentioned this, I brushed
> it off as a mere rumor, but now... Oh, please someone hold me.
Why would you it to be just rumor?
Not only did tvguy mention it,
he said he himself would be working on it.
Laters. =)
Stan
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Unless if, as the case with Escaflowne,
Fox would own its broadcast rights for several years.
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
> I know the answer...
>
> It's gonna suck big time!
>
> I'm betting FK will cancel it after a month's worth of butchered
> episodes, who's gamed?
>
Ya guys wanna start a pool about how long it'll last?
The # of TV airings, not the # of eps,
as some eps may be combined or skipped.
There are 78 total TV eps, but I doubt
more than a handful of people would guess beyond a dozen.
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
>
> "Mecánico Taco" <js...@reachone.com> wrote in message news:3a78...@news.turbotek.net...
> > "Geoffrey L. Wertime" <lati...@aol.comBob> wrote in message
> > news:20010131203529...@ng-mn1.aol.com...
> > > It's going to be on Fox Kids!
> >
> > Jeez, I'm afraid. I'm afraid of what they're gonna do to it.
>
> Take out the blood (though rare). Take out all the breast-size
>
The breast jokes were already erased in the uncut dub.
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:13:38 -0700, "Dennis O'Connor"
> <dm...@primenet.com> wrote:
>
> >Take out the blood (though rare). Take out all the breast-size
> >references. Take out all the bathing scenes. Take out all the
> >times Lina wastes a city. Take out almost all the times Lina
> >beats on Gourry for no reason. Take out all mention of
> >Lina's powers being black magic, and coming from the Makozu.
> >Take out the evil gleam Lina gets in her eyes when casting
> >a dragon slave. Take out Lina actually killing people. Take
> >out Xellos being a Mazoku ...
>
> Not to mention Lina's "periodic" loss of her magic.
>
I think this only happened that once in the whole saga,
and I think the uncut dub handled it subtly enough
that it'll pass over the heads of most youngsters.
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
> "Benjamin D. Hutchins" <gry...@rei.nerv.gweep.net> wrote ...
> > Dennis O'Connor <dm...@primenet.com> wrote:
> > >"Mecánico Taco" <js...@reachone.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Jeez, I'm afraid. I'm afraid of what they're gonna do to it.
> > >
> > > Take out all the breast-size references.
> >
> > ... And this, in particular, would be a loss because... ?
>
> Lina Inverse's insecurity about her own appearance
> and sexuality is an important part of the character.
> It's the only thing that explains how someone so
> intelligent and self-confident can be in denial about
> the relationship she has with Gourry. Without her
> insecurity and innocence, she's just another
> stereotypical 9th-grade AD&D player-character.
>
> The "flat-chested" jokes (as well as the quivering-
> Jell-O-mold breasts of Martina and Naga) are also a
> jab at the ridiculous overdevelopment of stereotypical
> anime heroines, since Lina could only be
Yep, a jab at stereotypical anime heroines
- a joke that anime fans would get,
but mainstream Americans probably aren't familiar with,
so the joke wouldn't go beyond
the depth-level of simply being flat-chested.
Sea Wasp
> >>
> >> Jeez, I'm afraid. I'm afraid of what they're gonna do to it.
> >
> > Take out all the breast-size
> >references.
>
> ... And this, in particular, would be a loss because... ?
>
> --G.
> never thought that joke was funny anyway
You're saying the joke was a ... bust for you?
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Benjamin D. Hutchins
>Benjamin D. Hutchins wrote:
>>
>> never thought that joke was funny anyway
>
> You're saying the joke was a ... bust for you?
Yeah... I'm afraid it just fell... flat.
--G.
Invid Fan
<Pine.BSO.4.10.101020...@roundtable.cif.rochester.edu>,
S.t.A.n.L.e.E <sta...@roundtable.cif.rochester.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Dennis O'Connor wrote:
>
> >
> > "Mecánico Taco" <js...@reachone.com> wrote in message
> > news:3a78...@news.turbotek.net...
> > > "Geoffrey L. Wertime" <lati...@aol.comBob> wrote in message
> > > news:20010131203529...@ng-mn1.aol.com...
> > > > It's going to be on Fox Kids!
> > >
> > > Jeez, I'm afraid. I'm afraid of what they're gonna do to it.
> >
> > Take out the blood (though rare). Take out all the breast-size
> >
>
> The breast jokes were already erased in the uncut dub.
>
They were cut down some, but not eliminated. The only line change that
comes to mind is when they're hiding in some hay in the first half of
season 1.
--
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'Invid Fan' painter down the well! GRR! I CAN'T FORGET!"
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Christopher Fiore
news:20010131203529...@ng-mn1.aol.com...
> Gourry.. "LIIIIINNNNAAAAAAAAA!!!!"
>
> http://www.rightstuf.com/main.shtml
>
> "Slayers goes TV!
> For those of you who might not have heard, Central Park Media has cut a deal
> with Fox to bring the Slayers series to the Fox Kids Line-up. The show will
> begin airing in February. Check your local listings for further details! "
This is certainly going to be interesting... I'll check out the first episode.
Actually, I think Slayers has a better chance to be successful on broadcast than
Escaflowne did (though I doubt it will become a hit). The series is light
enough to appeal to Fox Kid's target audience, I think. The editing probably
will not need to be as heavy as it was for Escaflowne, either. IIRC, there
aren't a lot of things that would need to be cut; I suspect most of the cuts
will due to time constraints. Most of the remaining editing will probably be
recording new dialogue: eliminating the small-breast jokes, invocation of dark
powers, and the like. TVGuy said that Fox insits on scoring all it's programing
itself, so the music will definitely be changed-- though to what degree, I can't
even guess.
That said, I'm dissapointed to see so many people are already starting to bitch
and whine. "Wah wah wah! Fox is going to destroy my favorite series! How can
the be so stupid? I hate Fox! Wah wah wah!" Well, if that's how you feel, DON'T
WATCH IT! No one is forcing you. And there's no reason to take this so
seriously-- it IS just a TV show, after all.
--
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> Pipian writes:
> : <Pipian appears before a slightly destroyed Lina statue with a giant arm
> : broken off at her side>
>
> : No! Those bastards did it! They really DID it!
>
> : <Pipian punches the ground>
>
> : WHY L-SAMA?!?!?!?! WHY???????? Damn the executives to hell!
>
> : Err, anyway, there's still unedited subs/dubs on video and DVD, so let's be
> : thankful for that. Let us just pray that L-Sama save those poor souls who
> : watch Slayers on Fox.
>
> Why? They'll see something that is much better than NASCAR Racers, even
> with edits. And some will pick up the tapes and DVDs and learn what they
> were missing. And some will stay on to see other anime and become fans.
And some will hate it and never seek it out at all, as long as we're throwing
out assumptions.
> But some people don't like that idea, elitist prigs who feel that anime is
> only for the kewl few.
Yes, that explains all the hatred leveled at the Gundam Wing dub, David.
Robert Hutchinson
80-watt Hamster
> Geoffrey L. Wertime wrote:
>
>>
>> "Slayers goes TV!
>> For those of you who might not have heard, Central Park Media has cut a deal
>> with Fox to bring the Slayers series to the Fox Kids Line-up. The show will
>> begin airing in February. Check your local listings for further details! "
>
>
> To air longer than Escaflowne or not air longer than Escaflowne that is
> the question. :)
>
I vote for longer. I think the extra slapstick will go a long way for
the Fox Kids audience.
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Plus, Neil Nadelman (the translator of the TV series) said that CPM
already changed the English dub version of lots her spells (removing
references of pledging Lina's soul to the Darkness).
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Franklin Harris
Let's see: They butchered ESCAFLOWNE because they were afraid a female lead
would scare away little boys. So, the reduced her to the sidekick of the
male co-star.
SLAYERS has a female lead and a male co-star.
<sarcasm>
Nope. Can't see why you're afraid.
</sarcasm>
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> "Geoffrey L. Wertime" <lati...@aol.comBob> wrote in message
> news:20010131203529...@ng-mn1.aol.com...
> > It's going to be on Fox Kids! What will they DO to my beloved anime?! To
quote
> > Gourry.. "LIIIIINNNNAAAAAAAAA!!!!"
> >
> > http://www.rightstuf.com/main.shtml
> >
> > "Slayers goes TV!
> > For those of you who might not have heard, Central Park Media has cut a
deal
> > with Fox to bring the Slayers series to the Fox Kids Line-up. The show
will
> > begin airing in February. Check your local listings for further details!
"
>
> This is certainly going to be interesting... I'll check out the first
episode.
I think everyone owes it _that_ much of a chance.
> Actually, I think Slayers has a better chance to be successful on
broadcast than
> Escaflowne did (though I doubt it will become a hit). The series is light
> enough to appeal to Fox Kid's target audience, I think. The editing
probably
I dunno. I'd think some of the RPG/fantasy world parodies might go over
their heads. It's a little of that kind of humor that killed a certain
other weekly animated parody/satire that they aired a few years ago.
> will not need to be as heavy as it was for Escaflowne, either. IIRC,
there
> aren't a lot of things that would need to be cut; I suspect most of the
cuts
> will due to time constraints. Most of the remaining editing will probably
be
> recording new dialogue: eliminating the small-breast jokes, invocation of
dark
> powers, and the like. TVGuy said that Fox insits on scoring all it's
programing
> itself, so the music will definitely be changed-- though to what degree, I
can't
> even guess.
There's also the "time of the month" joke, but that's only a one time thing.
> That said, I'm dissapointed to see so many people are already starting to
bitch
> and whine. "Wah wah wah! Fox is going to destroy my favorite series! How
can
> the be so stupid? I hate Fox! Wah wah wah!" Well, if that's how you feel,
DON'T
> WATCH IT! No one is forcing you. And there's no reason to take this so
> seriously-- it IS just a TV show, after all.
Exactly. It's not like Fox is confiscating the unedited tapes from your
home or anything...
Arnold Kim
Arnold Kim
Robert Hutchinson <ser...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3A79B0D6...@hotmail.com...
> David Crowe wrote:
> > Pipian writes:
> > : <Pipian appears before a slightly destroyed Lina statue with a giant
arm
> > : broken off at her side>
> >
> > : No! Those bastards did it! They really DID it!
> >
> > : <Pipian punches the ground>
> >
> > : WHY L-SAMA?!?!?!?! WHY???????? Damn the executives to hell!
> >
> > : Err, anyway, there's still unedited subs/dubs on video and DVD, so
let's be
> > : thankful for that. Let us just pray that L-Sama save those poor souls
who
> > : watch Slayers on Fox.
> >
> > Why? They'll see something that is much better than NASCAR Racers, even
> > with edits. And some will pick up the tapes and DVDs and learn what
they
> > were missing. And some will stay on to see other anime and become fans.
>
> And some will hate it and never seek it out at all, as long as we're
throwing
> out assumptions.
Except, unless there are some _drastic_ changes, they probably wouldn't like
the series uncut anyway.
Arnold Kim
Anne Packrat
> For those of you who might not have heard, Central Park Media has cut a deal
> with Fox to bring the Slayers series to the Fox Kids Line-up. The show will
> begin airing in February. Check your local listings for further details! "
Oh, joy, it premeires with Los Luchadores.... I swear can that show look
any dumber?!
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David Crowe <jet...@primenet.com> wrote:
>
> Why? They'll see something that is much better than NASCAR Racers,
> even with edits.
What makes you say that? Nascar Racers is crap, but Fox and the WB have
shown us that needlessly edited anime can end up choppy, confusing, and
unsatisfying, not to mention the apparent need to restate the obvious on
a regular basis so the kiddies don't forget anything important along the
way.
> The furor over cuts makes absolutely no sense.
When a good show ends up being mediocre or bad thanks to editing, it's
certainly grounds for critisism.
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Matt A.
"Rodrick Su" <r...@primenet.com> wrote in message
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Well, thats a relief. As long as CPM is handling further editing and not
Fox, it shouldn't be 'too' bad.
I do plan on watching what Fox puts out for "Slayers", just to compare with
my videos I already have of the uncut dubs. Otherwise I probably could care
less what they do since I already own it uncut on videotapes.
Like I stated above, as long as CPM handles editing for U.S. TV, most of the
humor (sans the breast jokes) is left intact, and Fox runs episodes in
order, "Slayers" just may stand up to the likes of a certain little yellow
electric rat over on that 'other' network.
-Matt
Jim Lazar
> > Plus, Neil Nadelman (the translator of the TV series) said that CPM
> > already changed the English dub version of lots her spells (removing
> > references of pledging Lina's soul to the Darkness).
>
> Well, thats a relief. As long as CPM is handling further editing and not
> Fox, it shouldn't be 'too' bad.
>
> I do plan on watching what Fox puts out for "Slayers", just to compare
with
> my videos I already have of the uncut dubs. Otherwise I probably could
care
> less what they do since I already own it uncut on videotapes.
>
> Like I stated above, as long as CPM handles editing for U.S. TV, most of
the
> humor (sans the breast jokes) is left intact, and Fox runs episodes in
> order, "Slayers" just may stand up to the likes of a certain little yellow
> electric rat over on that 'other' network.
No, what he was saying that Neil Nadelman already changed the spells for the
existing dub (available on VHS and DVD) to tone down some of Lina's more
controversal spells. And this was years before any TV deal was inked.
From what I hear, Fox will be doing additional editing (video and dub
dialog) ofr the TV broadcast, not CPM.
Geoff Dias
> Take out the blood (though rare). Take out all the breast-size
> references. Take out all the bathing scenes. Take out all the
> times Lina wastes a city. Take out almost all the times Lina
> beats on Gourry for no reason. Take out all mention of
> Lina's powers being black magic, and coming from the Makozu.
The blood is pretty prominent in the last few episodes, and is part of a
dramatic sequence that emphasized a serious injury to someone.
Big thing to take out: the breast jokes. There's more than a few here.
Animeg3282
>
>Why? They'll see something that is much better than NASCAR Racers, even
>with edits. And some will pick up the tapes and DVDs and learn what they
>were missing. And some will stay on to see other anime and become fans.
>
>But some people don't like that idea, elitist prigs who feel that anime is
>only for the kewl few.
>
>The furor over cuts makes absolutely no sense. Just about every movie on
>TV is edited for television, and that doesn't diminish the fact that is is
>still uncut on video. Grow up people.
>
>
I could see "Gundam Wing' cut or even "OutlawStar' cut, but...'Escaflowne' or
'Cardcaptors' cut? That's a bit much, and is just annoying for us who have to
see things that would be very good if only they had sense to leave things alone
be bad and then be canceled, because people just won't buy what they want....
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> Take out the blood (though rare). Take out all the breast-size
> references. Take out all the bathing scenes. Take out all the
> times Lina wastes a city. Take out almost all the times Lina
> beats on Gourry for no reason. Take out all mention of
> Lina's powers being black magic, and coming from the Makozu.
> Take out the evil gleam Lina gets in her eyes when casting
> a dragon slave. Take out Lina actually killing people. Take
> out Xellos being a Mazoku ...
>
> The real question is, once they've dumbed it down and
> cleaned it up, what of any value will they leave in ?
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>
> Like I stated above, as long as CPM handles editing for U.S. TV, most of
the
> humor (sans the breast jokes) is left intact, and Fox runs episodes in
> order, "Slayers" just may stand up to the likes of a certain little yellow
> electric rat over on that 'other' network.
As I understand it, CPM has nothing to do with this as they don't have the
broadcast rights, anyway.
From Anime News Network:
Justin Sevakis of Central Park Media has written us to inform us of a
misuderstanding regarding the broadcasting of Slayers on Fox Kids. :
"There has been a misinterpretation made of the posting on Right Stuf.
Central Park Media had nothing to do with the Fox Kids deal regarding
Slayers, as we do not reserve Broadcast rights. These are owned by Enoki
Films, who negotiated this deal separate from us."
Ethan Hammond
> broadcast rights, anyway.
>
> From Anime News Network:
>
> Justin Sevakis of Central Park Media has written us to inform us of a
> misuderstanding regarding the broadcasting of Slayers on Fox Kids. :
>
> "There has been a misinterpretation made of the posting on Right Stuf.
> Central Park Media had nothing to do with the Fox Kids deal regarding
> Slayers, as we do not reserve Broadcast rights. These are owned by Enoki
> Films, who negotiated this deal separate from us."
Hmmm, so basically it is going to be a completely different version
than the exsisting dub? I remember when Fox got ahold of Beast Wars
and ruined that show, and that was an American show. I don't see
any good coming from a Fox version of Slayers.
Arnold Kim
Mecánico Taco <mech...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> How are they going to hide Nahga's boobs?
Mmm... maybe by not airing the OAVs?
Arnold Kim
Neil Nadelman
>Plus, Neil Nadelman (the translator of the TV series) said that CPM
>already changed the English dub version of lots her spells (removing
>references of pledging Lina's soul to the Darkness).
Actually, that only happened in the first few episodes. After
that, the dub stuck pretty squarely to the sub script (Seeing how TAJ
Pro barely does any rewriting of the translations.)
- Neil Nadelman
Neil Nadelman
<fran...@pulpculture.net> wrote:
>From Anime News Network:
>
>Justin Sevakis of Central Park Media has written us to inform us of a
>misuderstanding regarding the broadcasting of Slayers on Fox Kids. :
>
>"There has been a misinterpretation made of the posting on Right Stuf.
>Central Park Media had nothing to do with the Fox Kids deal regarding
>Slayers, as we do not reserve Broadcast rights. These are owned by Enoki
>Films, who negotiated this deal separate from us."
All right! A totally different dub! They're free to do
whatever the hell they want to it! And my name STILL won't be listed
on a nationally broadcast show! Wonderful!
@_@
AGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Neil Nadelman
(Who wonders how this day can get any worse)
Ryan Mathews
>How are they going to hide Nahga's boobs?
Won't need to. Naga isn't in the TV series. I'm with Stan on this one. I
give it 10 episodes, tops.
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Ryan Mathews
Editing costs money, you know, and SLAYERS will have to be edited to the
bone. A spunky heroine who uses "black magic"? Ooh, the religious right
will looove that.
So Fox is going to spend a lot of money to edit the series, which will
probably be cancelled in two months, tops, after failing to immediately
garner Pokemon-level ratings. Or better yet, Fox Kids itself will
disappear, as many of its affiliates don't want it; it's forced on them in
return for the right to carry Fox primetime.
Whutta waste of cash. Advice to CPM: Count the money twice before you
fork over the rights.
Ryan Mathews
>That said, I'm dissapointed to see so many people are already starting
>to bitch and whine. "Wah wah wah! Fox is going to destroy my favorite
>series! How can the be so stupid? I hate Fox! Wah wah wah!" Well, if
>that's how you feel, DON'T WATCH IT! No one is forcing you. And
>there's no reason to take this so seriously-- it IS just a TV show,
>after all.
I agree that we shouldn't incessantly whine forever, but come on! When
something you truly enjoy is about to get radically changed, you can't
blame the fans for being a little pissed. *I'm* a little pissed. I don't
have to watch the Fox Kids broadcasts, and my DVDs aren't going to vanish,
but it's the principle of the thing. It just sticks in my craw to see a
bunch of suits at some network think they know better how to make an anime
series, especially when those selfsame suits have @#$%ed up everything
they've touched so far.
Dennis O'Connor
"Mecánico Taco" <mech...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3a7a...@news.turbotek.net...
> How are they going to hide Nahga's boobs?
Nahga isn't in the three seasons of Slayers TV.
Martina is, and there is _one_ dramatic scene where
here breasts do some dramatic Jell-O-esque jiggling
(when she kidnaps Amelia, 1st ep. of NEXT (season 2))
I wonder what they will do with that ? At least it's minor.
Dennis O'Connor
> I agree that we shouldn't incessantly whine forever, but come on! When
> something you truly enjoy is about to get radically changed, you can't
> blame the fans for being a little pissed. *I'm* a little pissed. I don't
> have to watch the Fox Kids broadcasts, and my DVDs aren't going to vanish,
But there are no TRY DVD's yet. I hope this doesn't
screw that up. I want my TRY DVDs. I'm buying them
the day I learn they are available.
Don Shaffer
S.t.A.n.L.e.E <sta...@roundtable.cif.rochester.edu> wrote in message
>The breast jokes were already erased in the uncut dub.
I wouldnt say they were erased...they were toned down though...IE 'Skinny as
a bean pole'..yada yada.
Fish Eye no Miko (with her new heart and lungs)
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>Martina is, and there is _one_ dramatic scene where
>here breasts do some dramatic Jell-O-esque jiggling
>(when she kidnaps Amelia, 1st ep. of NEXT (season 2))
>I wonder what they will do with that ?
I wouldn't worry; I doubt they'll get that far before they cancel it...
Catherine Johnson.
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Dennis O'Connor
songs with. Those songs rule ! But I can't see Fox
having a Japanese opening and closing.
I suppose we could hope they'd get Megumi-san
to sing them again but in English (subarashi!),
but what are the odds ?
David Crowe
: "Ryan Mathews" <math...@ix.netcom.com> wrote
: > I agree that we shouldn't incessantly whine forever, but come on! When
: > something you truly enjoy is about to get radically changed, you can't
: > blame the fans for being a little pissed. *I'm* a little pissed. I don't
: > have to watch the Fox Kids broadcasts, and my DVDs aren't going to vanish,
: But there are no TRY DVD's yet. I hope this doesn't
: screw that up. I want my TRY DVDs. I'm buying them
: the day I learn they are available.
Earlier in the thread, it was said that Fox's broadcast deal is totally
seperate from CPM's video license. Therefore, the DVD release won't be
influenced by this at all.
--
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Worst punishment ever!"
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Led Mirage
<mech...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>How are they going to hide Nahga's boobs?
Easy, Naga isn't in the tv series. Naga is only in the OVAs and
movies. The rest of the Slayer gang (Gourry et al) are only in the tv
series.
Led Mirage
<sta...@roundtable.cif.rochester.edu> wrote:
>I think this only happened that once in the whole saga,
>and I think the uncut dub handled it subtly enough
>that it'll pass over the heads of most youngsters.
Yup, that would be easy to fix. Hell, even in the japanese version,
nothing explicit was said anyhow. It's only us perverts trying to put
2 and 2 together.
Led Mirage
<esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>To air longer than Escaflowne or not air longer than Escaflowne that is
>the question. :)
This is getting silly. Even if they cut up Slayers, the show has
enough fights, explosions and easy to understand plotline. Slayers is
very straight forward and is great for mass consumption. Now, they'll
probably change the demons into something else, which will be sad, but
it won't take away from the show if you don't know the truth in the
first place.
Derek Janssen
>
> > Not to mention Lina's "periodic" loss of her magic.
>
> I think this only happened that once in the whole saga,
> and I think the uncut dub handled it subtly enough
> that it'll pass over the heads of most youngsters.
Yep: And if Gourry hasn't a clue, the kids won't either--
But it's not like he really needed to know, anyway... ; )
Derek Janssen
dja...@ultranet.com
Ethan Hammond
Is the International Channel not nationally broadcast? Or do you mean broadcast
as opposed to cable?
David Crowe
: On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 08:41:11 GMT, Ethan Hammond
: <esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
: >To air longer than Escaflowne or not air longer than Escaflowne that is
: >the question. :)
: This is getting silly. Even if they cut up Slayers, the show has
: enough fights, explosions and easy to understand plotline. Slayers is
: very straight forward and is great for mass consumption. Now, they'll
: probably change the demons into something else, which will be sad, but
Hmmm. Maybe they will and won't at the same time. With a new dub, they
can just call them the "Mazoku"...
Slithy Tove
wrote:
There is one other huge problem. The show has a continuing storyline.
Will Fox Kids respect it? Or will they mix up episodes? Even if they
respect the continuing plot, the show is aimed at an older group of
viewers than Fox's 6-11 demographic. Will these younger kids be able
to follow the story from week to week? If Fox mixes up the episodes,
will the kids be confused by all the dangling plotlines?
These are the same problems, a show re-targeted to the wrong age
group, that doomed Escaflowne, and a fsck'ed continuity, that doomed
CCS.
== Tove
--
It's a breathing technique.
Sea Wasp
>
> In article <3a79ab85$1...@corp.newsfeeds.com>,
> Christopher Fiore <shadow...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >That said, I'm dissapointed to see so many people are already starting to bitch
> >and whine. "Wah wah wah! Fox is going to destroy my favorite series! How can
> >the be so stupid? I hate Fox! Wah wah wah!" Well, if that's how you feel, DON'T
> >WATCH IT! No one is forcing you. And there's no reason to take this so
> >seriously-- it IS just a TV show, after all.
>
> Plus, Neil Nadelman (the translator of the TV series) said that CPM
> already changed the English dub version of lots her spells (removing
> references of pledging Lina's soul to the Darkness).
For which we've already roasted the coward!
Now we have new targets, you blaspheming traitorous swine, and FOX
shall suffer our Otakunized wrath! Tremble in fear!
--
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/^\
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Bruce Grubb
Mirage) wrote:
If you mean the Mazoku (with Xellos being one of the more familiar
reqpesenatives) then FOX wouldn't have to change anything; Mazoku are
rendered as 'monsters' in both the dub and sub veresion even though by
Slayers Next it is obvious that they are in fact demons (pledges and
contracts are refereed to)
Bruce Grubb
<jet...@primenet.com> wrote:
>Led Mirage <lmi...@yahoo.com> writes:
>: On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 08:41:11 GMT, Ethan Hammond
>: <esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>: >To air longer than Escaflowne or not air longer than Escaflowne that is
>: >the question. :)
>
>: This is getting silly. Even if they cut up Slayers, the show has
>: enough fights, explosions and easy to understand plotline. Slayers is
>: very straight forward and is great for mass consumption. Now, they'll
>: probably change the demons into something else, which will be sad, but
>
>Hmmm. Maybe they will and won't at the same time. With a new dub, they
>can just call them the "Mazoku"...
Why would a change in dub be needed? The Mazoku are already refered to as
"the monster race" in the current Next dub. I am wondering if some of you
people have accually seen Slayers as it exists currently or using some old
fansubs as the basis of your comments.
Bruce Grubb
<dm...@primenet.com> wrote:
>"Ryan Mathews" <math...@ix.netcom.com> wrote
>> I agree that we shouldn't incessantly whine forever, but come on! When
>> something you truly enjoy is about to get radically changed, you can't
>> blame the fans for being a little pissed. *I'm* a little pissed. I don't
>> have to watch the Fox Kids broadcasts, and my DVDs aren't going to vanish,
>
>But there are no TRY DVD's yet.
Which is insteresting as Slayers Next's DVD ad for Slayers Try says "also
available on DVD"
>I hope this doesn't
>screw that up. I want my TRY DVDs. I'm buying them
>the day I learn they are available.
I am also waiting for Software Sculptors to get its act together and do
Slayers right (even they admit the Japanese audio on that DVD set is totally
FUBARed <http://www.software-sculptors.com/slayersdvdsoundinfo.html>)
Hopefull they ditch the DVD-rom stuff for two reasons:
1) the majority of DVD players are NOT in computers
2) Mac and Unix computers with DVD players can't run the Windows software
without an emulator.
Mikage via Usenet
"Franklin Harris" <fran...@pulpculture.net> writes:
> "Matt A." <anime...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:t7jtm7l...@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > Like I stated above, as long as CPM handles editing for U.S. TV, most of
> the
> > humor (sans the breast jokes) is left intact, and Fox runs episodes in
> > order, "Slayers" just may stand up to the likes of a certain little yellow
> > electric rat over on that 'other' network.
>
> As I understand it, CPM has nothing to do with this as they don't have the
> broadcast rights, anyway.
>
> From Anime News Network:
>
> Justin Sevakis of Central Park Media has written us to inform us of a
> misuderstanding regarding the broadcasting of Slayers on Fox Kids. :
>
> "There has been a misinterpretation made of the posting on Right Stuf.
> Central Park Media had nothing to do with the Fox Kids deal regarding
> Slayers, as we do not reserve Broadcast rights. These are owned by Enoki
> Films, who negotiated this deal separate from us."
That Enoki Films is a bunch of Japanese people who attempts to
Americanize anime. Example: DiC's Sailor Moon, pilot version of Utena...
Adrian D. Rainman
[snip edits list]
>The real question is, once they've dumbed it down and
>cleaned it up, what of any value will they leave in ?
Amelia!
Oh, wait, you said "of any value." My fault... I'll go back to thinking on it
again....
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Bruce Tomlin
<dm...@primenet.com> wrote:
> I wonder what they'll replace the opening and closing
> songs with. Those songs rule ! But I can't see Fox
> having a Japanese opening and closing.
>
> I suppose we could hope they'd get Megumi-san
> to sing them again but in English (subarashi!),
> but what are the odds ?
Hell, what are the odds we'll even see the same opening video? They'll
probably replace it with some flashy CGI crap like they did for CardCaptors.
For that matter, what are the odds they'll even air episode 1 first? Maybe
we should have a betting pool on which episode they air first.
I suppose the _really_ sad part of all this is that Fox is the same network
that brought you such wholesome family entertainment as Married With Children.
(e)magius
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Arnold Kim
Slithy Tove <sli...@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:33vk7tcb5s4akckcg...@4ax.com...
> There is one other huge problem. The show has a continuing storyline.
> Will Fox Kids respect it? Or will they mix up episodes? Even if they
Well, they do air the serialized X-men series from the early '90s. And
IIRC, Escaflowne was aired in order. Heavily edited, but in order.
> respect the continuing plot, the show is aimed at an older group of
> viewers than Fox's 6-11 demographic. Will these younger kids be able
> to follow the story from week to week? If Fox mixes up the episodes,
> will the kids be confused by all the dangling plotlines?
I don't think Slayers' plot is all _that_ complex...
Arnold Kim
Sea Wasp
>
> "Dennis O'Connor" dm...@primenet.com wrote:
>
> [snip edits list]
>
> >The real question is, once they've dumbed it down and
> >cleaned it up, what of any value will they leave in ?
>
> Amelia!
>
> Oh, wait, you said "of any value." My fault... I'll go back to thinking on it
> again....
(Lightning strikes, revealing a cloaked figure atop a conveniently
high crag of rock)
"You have dared to dismiss the beautiful warrior of Justice so
callously? PACIFIST CRUSH!"
Invid Fan
<mika...@altavista.net> wrote:
So... Are they using the CPM dub, an international dub already out
there, or a new dub?
--
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'Invid Fan' painter down the well! GRR! I CAN'T FORGET!"
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Neil Nadelman
<esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Neil Nadelman wrote:
>
>> All right! A totally different dub! They're free to do
>> whatever the hell they want to it! And my name STILL won't be listed
>> on a nationally broadcast show! Wonderful!
>>
>> @_@
>>
>> AGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> - Neil Nadelman
>> (Who wonders how this day can get any worse)
>
>Is the International Channel not nationally broadcast? Or do you mean broadcast
>as opposed to cable?
It's nationally broadcast, but it has a footprint smaller than
the golf channel. I was hoping to finally get a credit on a national
broadcast network. Oh, well. I just fear what the new dub will be
like. I happen to REALLY like Slayers.
- Neil Nadelman
Sea Wasp
You merely removed the more explicit references to calling on the
forces of Darkness. THEY will make it "In the name of Sunlight and
Cute Fluffy Bunnies!"
David Crowe
: In article <95difo$1kog$1...@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net>, "Dennis O'Connor"
: <dm...@primenet.com> wrote:
: > I wonder what they'll replace the opening and closing
: > songs with. Those songs rule ! But I can't see Fox
: > having a Japanese opening and closing.
: >
: > I suppose we could hope they'd get Megumi-san
: > to sing them again but in English (subarashi!),
: > but what are the odds ?
: Hell, what are the odds we'll even see the same opening video? They'll
: probably replace it with some flashy CGI crap like they did for CardCaptors.
Cardcaptors isn't a relevant case here. Two entirely different companies.
: For that matter, what are the odds they'll even air episode 1 first? Maybe
: we should have a betting pool on which episode they air first.
: I suppose the _really_ sad part of all this is that Fox is the same network
: that brought you such wholesome family entertainment as Married With Children.
Sad part of _WHAT?_ All they've said is that they're going to show it!
There is NO information about how they will be adapting the anime. There
is nothing but speculation and comparisons with Escaflone. And Slayers is
not like Escaflone...
David Crowe
: If you mean the Mazoku (with Xellos being one of the more familiar
: rendered as 'monsters' in both the dub and sub veresion even though by
: Slayers Next it is obvious that they are in fact demons (pledges and
: contracts are refereed to)
Now that I think about it, Real Ghostbusters had demons and devils
referred to as such, including several references to selling one's soul to
one for power or vacations. And it is airing now on Fox Family... So
perhaps the "they'll cut the black magic" stuff is overblown.
Animeg3282
>
> All right! A totally different dub! They're free to do
>whatever the hell they want to it! And my name STILL won't be listed
>on a nationally broadcast show! Wonderful!
>
> @_@
>
> AGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
Uh..Neil...think about it this way, if they make it into a horrible mockery of
the Slayers name, you can pretend you had nothing to do with it..
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wrote:
From the synopsis available Slayer like Next and Try is very sequence
dependent. Messing aroudn with the sequence would leave a lot of people
going '-What- is going on?!'
Ethan Hammond
Yeah, I know what you mean. Slayers is one of my favorite shows too.
If Fox couldn't handle Beast Wars in its original form then Slayers
has no hope. Cartoon Network seems to be the only channel that dosen't
have too much of a problem leaving anime resembling the original.
Ethan Hammond
>
> Slithy Tove <sli...@pobox.com> wrote in message
> news:33vk7tcb5s4akckcg...@4ax.com..
>
> > Will Fox Kids respect it? Or will they mix up episodes? Even if they
>
> Well, they do air the serialized X-men series from the early '90s. And
> IIRC, Escaflowne was aired in order. Heavily edited, but in order.
>
> > respect the continuing plot, the show is aimed at an older group of
> > viewers than Fox's 6-11 demographic. Will these younger kids be able
> > to follow the story from week to week? If Fox mixes up the episodes,
> > will the kids be confused by all the dangling plotlines?
>
> I don't think Slayers' plot is all _that_ complex...
Not the first season, but Slayers Next has some real depth IMO and to a lesser
extent so does Try.
80-watt Hamster
>
> Now that I think about it, Real Ghostbusters had demons and devils
> referred to as such, including several references to selling one's soul to
> one for power or vacations. And it is airing now on Fox Family... So
> perhaps the "they'll cut the black magic" stuff is overblown.
Some of the recent edits in anime series shown on US TV seem to
demonstrate that the acceptable level of violence, language, and occult
is apparently much lower for anime than for domestic animated/kids'
series. The logic behind this comlpletely escapes me.
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That's true, but Fox Kids has shown a couple of serialized shows in order
before, so any switching of episodes isn't exactly set in stone.
Arnold Kim
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
> David Crowe wrote:
> > Pipian writes:
> > : <Pipian appears before a slightly destroyed Lina statue with a giant arm
> > : broken off at her side>
> >
> > : No! Those bastards did it! They really DID it!
> >
> > : <Pipian punches the ground>
> >
> > : WHY L-SAMA?!?!?!?! WHY???????? Damn the executives to hell!
> >
> > : Err, anyway, there's still unedited subs/dubs on video and DVD, so let's be
> > : thankful for that. Let us just pray that L-Sama save those poor souls who
> > : watch Slayers on Fox.
> >
> > Why? They'll see something that is much better than NASCAR Racers, even
> > with edits. And some will pick up the tapes and DVDs and learn what they
> > were missing. And some will stay on to see other anime and become fans.
>
> And some will hate it and never seek it out at all, as long as we're throwing
> out assumptions.
>
So the question is, would it be a net influx or outflux? ;)
And of course, there's the 3rd group who won't go either way.
Laters. =)
Stan
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> > "Slayers goes TV!
> > For those of you who might not have heard, Central Park Media has cut a deal
> > with Fox to bring the Slayers series to the Fox Kids Line-up. The show will
> > begin airing in February. Check your local listings for further details! "
>
> Oh, joy, it premeires with Los Luchadores.... I swear can that show look
> any dumber?!
> --
How about The Tick? ;)
Well, it was a dumb show in the first place, funny yes....
Laters. =)
SPOOOOON!
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
Mw/C is not animation though; it was primetime sitcom.
Can't really compare them, works very differently.
Laters. =)
Stan
John Hawley
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Led Mirage
<bruceNS...@fanboy.net> wrote:
s.
>
>For that matter, what are the odds they'll even air episode 1 first? Maybe
>we should have a betting pool on which episode they air first.
Well, Gourry appears right from ep.1 on, so it's ok to air the show in
order.
Led Mirage
wrote:
>There is one other huge problem. The show has a continuing storyline.
>Will Fox Kids respect it? Or will they mix up episodes? Even if they
>respect the continuing plot, the show is aimed at an older group of
>viewers than Fox's 6-11 demographic. Will these younger kids be able
>to follow the story from week to week? If Fox mixes up the episodes,
>will the kids be confused by all the dangling plotlines?
The plot to Slayers is pretty loose until late in the show and it's
pretty straight forward. I don't see why they'd want to air them out
of order (but then they do anyhow, I guess).
Led Mirage
wrote:
>If you mean the Mazoku (with Xellos being one of the more familiar
>reqpesenatives) then FOX wouldn't have to change anything; Mazoku are
>rendered as 'monsters' in both the dub and sub veresion even though by
>Slayers Next it is obvious that they are in fact demons (pledges and
>contracts are refereed to)
Sigh, then someone is obviously not doing their job translating (maybe
he IS doing his job, but a sad one).Lina explained to Gourry
(something like 40 times) what Shub is that includes "mazoku"
(literally is "demon/devil race").
Led Mirage
>Now that I think about it, Real Ghostbusters had demons and devils
>referred to as such, including several references to selling one's soul to
>one for power or vacations. And it is airing now on Fox Family... So
>perhaps the "they'll cut the black magic" stuff is overblown.
But for the main character to pledge allegiance and draw power from
them? Changing the references isn't that big a deal, but it does take
away some flavour of the show, particualar in Try when the humans are
cought between the struggle of gods "shinzoku" and demons. But as I
said, it'll still be a fun show with all the explosions and slapstick
humour (where else would depict a fishman cooked and eaten!).
Led Mirage
<esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Not the first season, but Slayers Next has some real depth IMO and to a lesser
>extent so does Try.
But will they last to air Try? The graveyard scene in Try is pretty
gruesome for 6-11 year olds.
Ethan Hammond
I don't think Fox will finish the first season myself, but we shall see.
T4...@concentric.net
Led Mirage wrote in message <3a7f550c...@news.netvigator.com>...
>On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 08:41:11 GMT, Ethan Hammond
><esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>
>>To air longer than Escaflowne or not air longer than Escaflowne that is
>>the question. :)
>
>Now, they'll
>probably change the demons into something else, which will be sad,
Why would they do that? The Power Rangers explicitly stated that they fought
DEMONS many times in last year's incarnation. FK seemed to have no problem
with it.
Though that's probably because Power Rangers and Digimon practically own fox
and can do whatever they want.
Allister Huggins
<snip>
> the relationship she has with Gourry. Without her
> insecurity and innocence, she's just another
Lina Inverse AND innocence in the same sentence just don't belong
together.
Allister H.
Matt Martin
Allister Huggins <alhu...@home.com> imparted the following wisdom unto us:
Gourry: "Lina! When did you...?"
Lina: "When did YOU get here?! Huh?"
G: "Agh! And what am I doing?!"
L: "Why, you... WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING?!"
<Lina whacks Gourry>
L: "What's the idea, having your way with me when I'm unconscious?! An
innocent girl's -- I mean, MY body isn't for that!"
G: "Who's an innocent girl?!"
L: "Me, you dope! ME!"
G: "But I didn't do anything! I swear I didn't do anything!"
L: "Gimme it back!"
G: "Give you WHAT back?!"
L: "I want my innocence!"
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TAPPING? You POLITICIANS! Don't you realize that the END of the "Wash
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S.t.A.n.L.e.E
> David Crowe wrote:
>
> >
> > Now that I think about it, Real Ghostbusters had demons and devils
> > referred to as such, including several references to selling one's soul to
> > one for power or vacations. And it is airing now on Fox Family... So
> > perhaps the "they'll cut the black magic" stuff is overblown.
>
> Some of the recent edits in anime series shown on US TV seem to
> demonstrate that the acceptable level of violence, language, and occult
> is apparently much lower for anime than for domestic animated/kids'
> series. The logic behind this comlpletely escapes me.
>
Because domestic kid animation shows
already have PhD people behind their productions,
so they're already "pre-approved."
Anime don't have that, so they're easy prey for network PhDs. ;p
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
Ask Neil to explain that one again.
Yes, he goofed, but it's up to you
whether his excuse is acceptable to you. ;)
Dennis O'Connor
Sure they do. Lina says so. :-) (Last episode of NEXT)
Even if she is a sociopathic bandit-killing sorcery genius,
she's still romantically innocent. What she and Gourry
did in the region the Lord of Nightmares occupied
(spoiler below*) was AFAIK the first time for her.
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>: enough fights, explosions and easy to understand plotline. Slayers is
>: very straight forward and is great for mass consumption. Now, they'll
>: probably change the demons into something else, which will be sad, but
>
>Hmmm. Maybe they will and won't at the same time. With a new dub, they
>can just call them the "Mazoku"...
>
Who says they have to do anything if you actually pay attention to what you're
bitching about half the time maybe you'd realive that in Software Sculpters
(the small company that Central Park Media tookover) that dub the of Slayers
calls the Mazoku 'the monster race'.
Also if you got off you're high horses maybe you'd relize that Fox was also the
company that brought back Dungeons and Dragons, first aired the cartoon version
of Beetlejuice, shocked half of America by airing a show that had one of the
good guys die on just the second episode and another spend the first season in
jail (X-Men) they also had to stop one villian who was bent on letting lose a
plague that would have killed millions.
DCusack890
>forces of Darkness. THEY will make it "In the name of Sunlight and
>Cute Fluffy Bunnies!"
Sounds like something that mirror clone of Lina's from the OVA's might come up
with.
Neil Nadelman
<sta...@roundtable.cif.rochester.edu> wrote:
>On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Led Mirage wrote:
>
>> Sigh, then someone is obviously not doing their job translating (maybe
>> he IS doing his job, but a sad one).Lina explained to Gourry
>> (something like 40 times) what Shub is that includes "mazoku"
>> (literally is "demon/devil race").
>>
>
>Ask Neil to explain that one again.
>Yes, he goofed, but it's up to you
>whether his excuse is acceptable to you. ;)
I originally had it translated as Demon, but the person
Software Sculptors hired to check my scripts claimed that "Mazoku"
translated as "Monster." Since Mazoku was a word I'd never run into
before, I shrugged my shoulders and went along with it. Turns out I
was wrong to accept the change, but by then it was too late and we
were committed to it.
- Neil Nadelman