Asuka - 30C
Hikari - 30C
Maya - 32C
Rei - 32D
Ritsuko - 34E
Misato - 36F
Heh. You redefine the word "loser". Congratulations! :D
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With Asuka, you have to take into account the Second
Law of Thermodynamics...
Also, you left out Lillith and EVAs 00 to 02. ^_^
FW
Misato is a C-cup by American standards, yeah.
Also let it be known OFFICAL measurements are one thing. Those don't have
the final say as to how characters look when they're drawn OUT, unless you
believe in some fanservice-standard-deviation.
For most anime, 'C cup' is pretty much considered shorthand for busty. How
an artist draws it is their own business. (Anyone remember the 'shoujo's
heights' thread?)
Well, not that I'm defending Eva, but I was a B cup when I was 14.
Fata Morgana
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umm... i don't know how to comment this ^^'''
for me misato has the biggest bra in eva so i can't realy compete here ^^'''
> .... erm ... right ... i'm quite sure 14 year old have such figures
They do in anime...
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>
> > .... erm ... right ... i'm quite sure 14 year old have such figures
>
> Well, not that I'm defending Eva, but I was a B cup when I was 14.
All the sizes listed were at least C cups, though.
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>Misato is a C-cup by American standards, yeah.
So, how does that work then?
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Let me put it this way. You know Annie, Spike's friend in Cowboy Bebop?
She's a DD or E. Misato is not an E. Misato is probaby a C/D.
laurie
Not the so-called "official" ones, and that's what I thought the remark was
about.
>
>"Fish Eye no Miko" <fis...@deadmoon.circus> wrote in message
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>> "Fata Morgana" <nunyabid...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> > "Suicide" <zh...@ukc.ac.uk> wrote in message
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>> >
>> > > .... erm ... right ... i'm quite sure 14 year old have such figures
>> >
>> > Well, not that I'm defending Eva, but I was a B cup when I was 14.
>>
>> All the sizes listed were at least C cups, though.
>>
>
>Not the so-called "official" ones, and that's what I thought the remark was
>about.
After a bit of browsing, I have discovered that Misato is, in fact
32E-23-32.
Nice...
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I think there's a comparison that goes something like this
Japanese American
B A
C B
D C
E D
F DD
and whatnot.
So Misato would be a D cup. I'm not sure what the other official sizes
are, but compare as you will.
And I could be entirely wrong about this. My sum knowledge of bras and
all things related is rather miniscule. I'm garnering this knowledge
from Google.
Damien Roc
OMFG!!!!! I could just bury my face btween those huge fucking tits. Misato
is fucking gorgeous. If she were my woman, i would fucking IMPALE her until
she SCREAMED
Shinji is such a little wuss. He gets to live with Asuka, a big titted slut
like Misato and hang around with Rei, who probably is the sexiest anime
chick ever and he doesn't even get laid once.
If I were in the Evangelion universe, Id be like a dog with two dicks. There
are just so many hot chicks around. I'd have screwed Rei, Asuka, Misato and
Ritsuko several times within the first week. :)))
I'd probably end up running out of sperm cause of all the action Id get.
[really articulate sentiment that truly impresses the chicks edited]
>
> If I were in the Evangelion universe, Id be like a
Guy with both arms broken and nuts kicked, hit upside the head with a
pistol butt, shackled to a hospital bed while pumped full of drugs. Within
about the first 12 hours. And THEN we'd leave Shinji alone in the room with
you...
Excuse me...are you the Goat who appeared on "MTV's Downtown?" If you are,
then Danny Caccavo, Chris Prynoski and Anne Bernstein weren't kidding...
that IS your real personality.
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I haven't read a fanfic this shameless since 1995.
The manga says Misato is a "C".
I can't believe I actually contributed to this thread...
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...And the fandom has reached a new low.
BTW, Rei the sexiest anime chick ever? Bah, I'd pick a whole mess of
women from various Gundam shows, RahXephon, Key the Metal Idol,
Escaflowne, Cowboy Bebop, not to mention the rest of the women in Eva,
the list goes on... above her. Just an observation, I'm not gonna
talk about screwing cartoons like this freak.
> > What do you think the bra sizes of the Eva chicks are? Here are my best
> > guesses.
>
> Heh. You redefine the word "loser". Congratulations! :D
He should go for a woman who dosne't wear a bra like I do.
Free and easy is how Nuku Nuku likes it, free and easy!!!!
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> > Nice...
>
> I think there's a comparison that goes something like this
>
> Japanese American
> B A
> C B
> D C
> E D
> F DD
>
> and whatnot.
>
> So Misato would be a D cup. I'm not sure what the other official sizes
> are, but compare as you will.
>
> And I could be entirely wrong about this. My sum knowledge of bras and
> all things related is rather miniscule. I'm garnering this knowledge
> from Google.
Why must they do this to us, WHY!!!! *SHAKES FIST AT SIZE
DIFFERENCES*
Yes.
^_^
FW
> Why must they do this to us, WHY!!!! *SHAKES FIST AT SIZE
> DIFFERENCES*
>
Coz everything's bigger in Texas!
It's kind of like why US Honda Civic EX = Canadian SI, US CIVIC SI =
Canadian SIR
You wear a bra? 0_o;;;;;;
-Lord Craxton
> > > Heh. You redefine the word "loser". Congratulations! :D
> >
> > He should go for a woman who dosne't wear a bra like I do.
>
> You wear a bra? 0_o;;;;;;
Nuku Nuku dosen't, BAKA!!!!
> > Why must they do this to us, WHY!!!! *SHAKES FIST AT SIZE
> > DIFFERENCES*
> >
>
> Coz everything's bigger in Texas!
>
> It's kind of like why US Honda Civic EX = Canadian SI, US CIVIC SI =
> Canadian SIR
Mmmm Texas.
So please tell us how you wear a bra so we can be suitably informed. Thank
you.
dB) Sorry, man, you just set that up too nicely.
Watson
Who didn't even need to rent a pair of shoes to do that.
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> > He should go for a woman who dosne't wear a bra like I do.
>
> So please tell us how you wear a bra so we can be suitably informed.
Thank
> you.
*FLASHES MALE NIPPLES!!!*
> dB) Sorry, man, you just set that up too nicely.
It seems I did.
> Watson
> Who didn't even need to rent a pair of shoes to do that.
Mmmm bowling shoes of D00M!!!!
> "Daniel Fawcett" <western.ba...@virgin.net> wrote in message
>
> > > What do you think the bra sizes of the Eva chicks are? Here are my best
> > > guesses.
> >
> > Heh. You redefine the word "loser". Congratulations! :D
>
> He should go for a woman who dosne't wear a bra like I do.
Does anybody want to parse this sentance?
Louis
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>On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Ethan Hammond wrote:
>
>> "Daniel Fawcett" <western.ba...@virgin.net> wrote in message
>>
>> > > What do you think the bra sizes of the Eva chicks are? Here are my best
>> > > guesses.
>> >
>> > Heh. You redefine the word "loser". Congratulations! :D
>>
>> He should go for a woman who dosne't wear a bra like I do.
>
>Does anybody want to parse this sentance?
No. Nobody does. Some might think they do, but trust me, they
really don't.
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> You wear a bra? 0_o;;;;;;
Ever heard of Cosplay? ~_^
GAAAH! ETHAN IS CHOUROU!! *runs screaming into the jungle*
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> > .... erm ... right ... i'm quite sure 14 year old have such figures
> >
> > --
> > Peace Sells ...
> > But Who's Buying?
> >
> >
>
> Well, not that I'm defending Eva, but I was a B cup when I was 14.
>
Well, not specifically referring to you,
but many big-boned girls can easily be B-cups at 14.
I think when "Suicide" mentioned "figures,"
he took into account the charas' onscreen figures.
Nevertheless, it's still just anime, not real life.
Laters. =)
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Why do they do this to you? You should talk. You're not the one who has to
fit into the blasted things.
*mutter mutter damned bra manufacturers grumble grumble can't even make one
that the straps don't fall off your shoulders every two minutes mutter
mutter and why do underwires have to set off the damned airport security
alarms anyway? So the security guards can get their jollies wavin' that wand
over your chest grumble grumble
laurie
> "K. Jeffery Petersen" <sk...@goddos.net> wrote in message
>
> > > Nice...
> >
> > I think there's a comparison that goes something like this
> >
> > Japanese American
> > B A
> > C B
> > D C
> > E D
> > F DD
> >
> > and whatnot.
> >
> > So Misato would be a D cup. I'm not sure what the other official sizes
> > are, but compare as you will.
> >
> > And I could be entirely wrong about this. My sum knowledge of bras and
> > all things related is rather miniscule. I'm garnering this knowledge
> > from Google.
>
> Why must they do this to us, WHY!!!! *SHAKES FIST AT SIZE
> DIFFERENCES*
>
Heh, I won't be surprised; try buying some girl a dress.
Women's clothes sizes vary from one manufacturer to another,
never mind from store to store and much less between continents.
> "Lord Craxton" <cra...@erols.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > Heh. You redefine the word "loser". Congratulations! :D
> > >
> > > He should go for a woman who dosne't wear a bra like I do.
> >
> > You wear a bra? 0_o;;;;;;
>
> Nuku Nuku dosen't, BAKA!!!!
>
So... why didn't she make her two-piece in the beach ep
a "one-piece" (not that kind of one-piece) then? *wink*wink*
> Lord Craxton wrote:
>
> > You wear a bra? 0_o;;;;;;
>
> Ever heard of Cosplay? ~_^
>
You mean crossplay. ;-)
X-back straps? Sports bra? Just suggestions.
> mutter and why do underwires have to set off the damned airport security
> alarms anyway? So the security guards can get their jollies wavin' that wand
> over your chest grumble grumble
>
> laurie
Sounds like they had the gain turned way up.
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> > *FLASHES MALE NIPPLES!!!*
>
> GAAAH! ETHAN IS CHOUROU!! *runs screaming into the jungle*
Or that guy in Bebop with the boobies, GREN?
> Why do they do this to you? You should talk. You're not the one who has to
> fit into the blasted things.
You don't have too!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
> So... why didn't she make her two-piece in the beach ep
> a "one-piece" (not that kind of one-piece) then? *wink*wink*
Because she is a modest catgirl, MODEST!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
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>
>>"Suicide" <zh...@ukc.ac.uk> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>>>.... erm ... right ... i'm quite sure 14 year old have such figures
>>
>>Well, not that I'm defending Eva, but I was a B cup when I was 14.
>
>
> All the sizes listed were at least C cups, though.
>
> Catherine Johnson.
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>
>
It's (drumroll please...) ANIME PHYSICS(tm). Anime physics calls for
outragous hairstyles, bust lines, waist lines, hip lines, and the
amazing unhindged jaws for those really wide open mouth shots that defy
normal laws of physics.
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Remove invalid and nospam to reply.
I'd answer this but it would involve far TOO MUCH INFORMATION.
laurie
> "Daniel Fawcett" <western.ba...@virgin.net> wrote in message
So Ethan, what size and cup to you wear?
Initially, I wasn't going to say anything, but then I said "What the
hell, it's all in fun." You have to admit though, you left yourself
*WIDE* open on that one.
As someone who has done security work before, I must note that some
metal detectors (worked with the big portable kind) tend to be a bit
iffy where that's concerned. You don't want to take ANY chances at all.
One time the detectors were so sensitive, they went off if you knocked
on the table next to them (the one where you get the people to put their
metal items, cellphones etc). Yet if they were turned down just a notch,
small metal items (keys, etc) would pass through without triggering. If
you think that's ok, well, think about the implications of someone
having a switchblade (or two) with them.
- 5parrow
Hmm, I just imagined a garotte worked into an underwire bra. Now that would
be an assassin's tool, wouldn't it?
laurie
>It's (drumroll please...) ANIME PHYSICS(tm). Anime physics calls for
>outragous hairstyles, bust lines, waist lines, hip lines, and the
>amazing unhindged jaws for those really wide open mouth shots that defy
>normal laws of physics.
Hmm. I remember seeing a description of general cartoon physics somewhere
on the web at some point. Things like if you run off a cliff or something
and there's no ground supporting you, you won't actually fall until you
look down and realize there's nothing under you. Does anime have its own
set of physical laws, too, that's somewhat different? :) Or did you just
sum it up and it's basically just the characters' physical dimensions and
proportions that aren't realistic?
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> In article <3E9BA156...@nospam.pacbell.invalid.net>
> dcr...@nospam.pacbell.invalid.net writes:
>
>> It's (drumroll please...) ANIME PHYSICS(tm). Anime physics calls for
>> outragous hairstyles, bust lines, waist lines, hip lines, and the
>> amazing unhindged jaws for those really wide open mouth shots that defy
>> normal laws of physics.
>
> Hmm. I remember seeing a description of general cartoon physics somewhere
> on the web at some point. Things like if you run off a cliff or something
> and there's no ground supporting you, you won't actually fall until you
> look down and realize there's nothing under you. Does anime have its own
> set of physical laws, too, that's somewhat different? :) Or did you just
> sum it up and it's basically just the characters' physical dimensions and
> proportions that aren't realistic?
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> "Ethan Hammond" <esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > "elsie" <lcub...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >
> > > Why do they do this to you? You should talk. You're not the one
> > > who has to fit into the blasted things.
> >
> > You don't have too!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
Ummm.. many women do, actually. Breasts have weight, and can be painful
to "carry around" without some support (yes, even just walking). I know;
I've experienced that, and I'm only a B-cup!
I mean, unless you want women to start getting breast reduction surgery *en
mass*, so they're not experiencing pain on a daily basis.
> I'd answer this but it would involve far TOO MUCH
> INFORMATION.
Well, I went there, since I'm not sure if guys really realize that bras ARE
a necessity for many women.
Catherine Johnson.
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Some quotes regarding whether women have to wear bras or not snipped.
>Ummm.. many women do, actually. Breasts have weight, and can be painful
>to "carry around" without some support (yes, even just walking). I know;
>I've experienced that, and I'm only a B-cup!
I'm sure that's true and the larger they are, the more weight you have to
carry and thus the more support you need. I wouldn't doubt that there's
more to it than that though.
>I mean, unless you want women to start getting breast reduction surgery *en
>mass*, so they're not experiencing pain on a daily basis.
Well, I suppose that is one solution, but I'm not sure it's the best one.
>Well, I went there, since I'm not sure if guys really realize that bras ARE
>a necessity for many women.
I think that we know that it is a necessity for some women, but probably
underestimate just how many women that includes. I mean, we don't actually
have firsthand knowledge of the issue since we're not physically built the
same way. We don't experience it ourselves, so we have to make a guess at
what it's like. Chances are we tend to guess wrong. Of course, I think
knowledge of the opposite gender will always be limited, at least to some
degree, so you have to help correct misconceptions when you can and be
aware that there are some things that we just won't ever really understand
about each other. Drifting away from the original subject of the Eva
women, but I felt like adding a comment about this.
> In article "Fish Eye no Miko" <fis...@deadmoon.circus> writes:
>
> Some quotes regarding whether women have to wear bras or not
> snipped.
>
> >Ummm.. many women do, actually. Breasts have weight, and can
> >be painful to "carry around" without some support (yes, even just
> >walking). I know; I've experienced that, and I'm only a B-cup!
>
> I'm sure that's true and the larger they are, the more weight you have
> to carry and thus the more support you need.
Indeed. And some women have to get breast reduction surgery regardless,
since they're so big. And I think every guy who whines about that should
have to wear that equivalent mass on his chest for a week--round the
clock--so he knows WHY women do that. It's not to spite you poor
mammophiles, it's cuz constant back pain is NOT fun.
> I wouldn't doubt that there's more to it than that though.
I'm not sure what you mean here?
> >I mean, unless you want women to start getting breast reduction surgery
> >*en mass*, so they're not experiencing pain on a daily basis.
>
> Well, I suppose that is one solution, but I'm not sure it's the best one.
No, of course not. Which is why we do *have* to wear bras. It's not just
to look pretty or to be "perky", it's to save us constant pain. But since
certain men seem to think women shouldn't wear bras, what are the options?
That was my point.
> >Well, I went there, since I'm not sure if guys really realize that bras
> >ARE a necessity for many women.
>
> I think that we know that it is a necessity for some women, but
> probably underestimate just how many women that includes.
True.
Oddly, since my surgery, I don't seem to have that many problems. Ok, now
we're really getting into TMI territory.
> I mean, we don't actually have firsthand knowledge of the issue since
> we're not physically built the same way.
Which is why I decided to post what I did. As I said, I'm not sure if guys
realize these things. And while it's ok for guys to make comment about
girls go braless and all that (oh, sexy!), I just feel like a dose of
reality is needed every once in awhile.
> We don't experience it ourselves, so we have to make a guess at
> what it's like. Chances are we tend to guess wrong.
<nods>
> Of course, I think knowledge of the opposite gender will always be
> limited, at least to some degree, so you have to help correct
> misconceptions when you can and be aware that there are some
> things that we just won't ever really understand about each other.
Of course. ^_^
> Drifting away from the original subject of the Eva women, but I felt
> like adding a comment about this.
Ok. ^_^
This was actually pointed out in The Simpsons's "Strong Arms of the Ma."
Marge actually complains about back pain following her accidental breast
implant surgery. A silver lining in an episode otherwise reminiscent of the
Mike "Saddlesore Galactica" Scully era . . .
>> I'd answer this but it would involve far TOO MUCH
>> INFORMATION.
>
>Well, I went there, since I'm not sure if guys really realize that bras ARE
>a necessity for many women.
>
The closest thing for men would be a jock strap. All the leg movement in
most athletic activities can cause serious "rearranging" of our "packages"!
Oh yeah . . . welcome back Cath! Hope this means your sister's doing better
. . .
- Vaughner
"I'll have you know, in addition to knowing the secrets of the universe, I'm
quite potty trained!" - Ko-enma, Yu Yu Hakusho
On Tue, 15 Apr 2003, Fish Eye no Miko wrote:
> > >I mean, unless you want women to start getting breast reduction surgery
> > >*en mass*, so they're not experiencing pain on a daily basis.
> >
> > Well, I suppose that is one solution, but I'm not sure it's the best one.
>
> No, of course not. Which is why we do *have* to wear bras. It's not just
> to look pretty or to be "perky", it's to save us constant pain. But since
> certain men seem to think women shouldn't wear bras, what are the options?
> That was my point.
Well, for women whose breasts aren't out-of-proportion to their stomach
and lower back muscles, the only pain from not wearing a bra comes when
you're excercising (and even with a bra, it can still hurt). Other
options other than bras might include binding the breasts (essentially
just wrapping cloth around the chest until comfort level is achieved).
> > >Well, I went there, since I'm not sure if guys really realize that bras
> > >ARE a necessity for many women.
> >
> > I think that we know that it is a necessity for some women, but
> > probably underestimate just how many women that includes.
the amount of women who need to wear bras while excercising is probably
upwards of 50%. And excercising can be taken loosely... a light walk
(3.5 mph or higher) counts as excercise.
lena
To bring it back on topic, a fair number of swordgirls do the wraps, like
Motoko Aoyama (who actually IS bustier than she looks).
Interestingly enough, Rin from GAINAX's Mahoromatic is supposed to be
atypically busty for her age, although she's drawn fairly tastefully. She
actually mentions to her friends being busty is bad, because people think
you're dumb and you get back pains easily.
Dunno how this explains Shikijoh-sensei, although she has gagboobs likely
not following the rules of physics.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2003, roshnikasumo wrote:
>
> "Lena B Katz" <l...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
> news:Pine.GSO.4.53L-031...@unix12.andrew.cmu.edu...
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 15 Apr 2003, Fish Eye no Miko wrote:
> >
> >
> > > > >I mean, unless you want women to start getting breast reduction
> surgery
> > > > >*en mass*, so they're not experiencing pain on a daily basis.
> > > >
> > > > Well, I suppose that is one solution, but I'm not sure it's the best
> one.
> > >
> > > No, of course not. Which is why we do *have* to wear bras. It's not
> just
> > > to look pretty or to be "perky", it's to save us constant pain. But
> since
> > > certain men seem to think women shouldn't wear bras, what are the
> options?
> > > That was my point.
> >
> > Well, for women whose breasts aren't out-of-proportion to their stomach
> > and lower back muscles, the only pain from not wearing a bra comes when
> > you're excercising (and even with a bra, it can still hurt). Other
> > options other than bras might include binding the breasts (essentially
> > just wrapping cloth around the chest until comfort level is achieved).
> >
> <snip>
>
> To bring it back on topic, a fair number of swordgirls do the wraps, like
> Motoko Aoyama (who actually IS bustier than she looks).
Does she also wrap her belly? (in ancient times, wrapping of the belly was
to let a samurai keep on fighting, even after taking a gut wound, which
would otherwise cause the intestines to roll out of the wound).
Lena
No, she doesn't. The breast-wrapping is partly used to demonstrate how
old-fashioned she is, how devoted to kenjutsu and how divorced from her
femininity. Keitaro buys her a bra for Christmas midway through the manga,
because she doesn't own one.
Since this was the only part with a question, I'll reply just to it.
>> I wouldn't doubt that there's more to it than that though.
>I'm not sure what you mean here?
I guess that was kind of vague. Basically I was just allowing for factors
other than only breast size to have an effect on how much pain one might
feel from carrying them around without support. At the time, I was thinking
that given a particular breast (bra) size, a smaller, more petite woman
might have a harder time supporting their weight than a woman of medium,
average build might. It could be more weight relatively speaking since
her body is small, thus more painful for her than other women with a larger
build but the same sized breasts. Maybe I'm a little confused, my knowledge
on the subject is admittedly rather limited, but I was just saying that I
wouldn't be surprised if factors other than simply breast size contributed
how much pain you might feel from them without the support of wearing a bra.
Y'know, I wonder if there are any newbies reading this who are thinking
of a different sort of surgery, given the topic at hand.
>>I mean, we don't actually have firsthand knowledge of the issue since
>>we're not physically built the same way.
>
>
> Which is why I decided to post what I did. As I said, I'm not sure if guys
> realize these things. And while it's ok for guys to make comment about
> girls go braless and all that (oh, sexy!), I just feel like a dose of
> reality is needed every once in awhile.
An artist friend of mine posted a primer on breasts and how they should
properly look when drawn. Rather enlightening.
http://www.smirnov.net/tutorials/breasts.php
> Catherine Johnson.
Damien Roc
> I'd answer this but it would involve far TOO MUCH INFORMATION.
Don't hold back on my account. *Gets wine cooler*
> Fish Eye no Miko wrote:
>
> >>I think that we know that it is a necessity for some
> >>women, but probably underestimate just how many
> >>women that includes.
> >
> > True.
> > Oddly, since my surgery, I don't seem to have that many
> > problems. Ok, now we're really getting into TMI territory.
>
> Y'know, I wonder if there are any newbies reading this who
> are thinking of a different sort of surgery, given the topic at
> hand.
Oops. I mean my heart/lung transplant. ^_^
> > Y'know, I wonder if there are any newbies reading this who
> > are thinking of a different sort of surgery, given the topic at
> > hand.
>
> Oops. I mean my heart/lung transplant. ^_^
At least they didn't give you a rat kidney or use animal
parts like they are thinking of doing. I think I might have
to just say I had a good run if they offered me a rat
kidney. Give me human organs, HUMAN!!!!
*SHAKES FIST*
Well, Catherine pretty much summed it up. The only thing I'd add to what she
said about pain is that Happosai is right, whether Ranma's willing to admit
it or not. They do sag if there isn't a bra to support them. Gravity pulls
the weight of the breast down and stretches the skin and muscles that attach
breasts to the chest wall. And that hurts. And the bigger the breasts, the
further south they drop. Bras take the weight off the chest wall and
redistribute it to the shoulders via the straps, which is why women with
large breasts often develop deep grooves in their shoulders and rounded
shoulders and neck problems. And those hurt too. The weight of the breasts
is more than the neck and shoulders can support, even with a bra. If a
woman's breasts are big enough that the HMO is willing to pay for the
reduction, she should go for it, I say, and save the extra years of chronic
pain.
laurie
> "elsie" <lcub...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> > Why do they do this to you? You should talk. You're not the one who has to
> > fit into the blasted things.
>
> You don't have too!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
>
Ethan! Realize you're talking to a prof!
Don't give people here still in college a bad mental image!
*SHAKES ASS like Arisa*
Laters. =)
Stan
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> "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" <sta...@cif.rochester.edu> wrote in message
>
> > So... why didn't she make her two-piece in the beach ep
> > a "one-piece" (not that kind of one-piece) then? *wink*wink*
>
> Because she is a modest catgirl, MODEST!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
>
Then why would she "go commando" and not wear bras?!
Is it because she's a scut?! ^_^
ROFL
That's nothing compared to the mental image I just had of myself walking
into the classroom dressed like some of my female students. Sometimes they
have so much on display I have a hard time not staring or saying something
like, "Does your mama know you dress like that?" Just this afternoon I was
at a Study Abroad meeting, and my colleague, a very blunt Polish woman, told
the girls, "You can't show that much cleavage in Italy. The men will pinch
you and follow you back to the hotel."
laurie
> In article "Fish Eye no Miko" <fis...@deadmoon.circus> writes:
>
> >Well, I went there, since I'm not sure if guys really realize that bras ARE
> >a necessity for many women.
>
> I think that we know that it is a necessity for some women, but probably
> underestimate just how many women that includes. I mean, we don't actually
> have firsthand knowledge of the issue since we're not physically built the
> same way. We don't experience it ourselves, so we have to make a guess at
> what it's like. Chances are we tend to guess wrong. Of course, I think
> knowledge of the opposite gender will always be limited, at least to some
> degree, so you have to help correct misconceptions when you can and be
> aware that there are some things that we just won't ever really understand
> about each other. Drifting away from the original subject of the Eva
> women, but I felt like adding a comment about this.
>
Well, as many girls in college had told us many times
(didn't teachers ever tell ya it never hurts to ask? ^_^ ),
it's not really a problem for them or don't mind it much.
Maybe because it's college and/or they're still young
that as they age and breasts sag, the weight distribution changes
so the pain starts creeping in... or something. ^_^;;
But point is, 'tis not a big deal to them (god bless youth).
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Michelle "Ms. Geek" Klein-Hass wrote:
>
> > Lord Craxton wrote:
> >
> > > You wear a bra? 0_o;;;;;;
> >
> > Ever heard of Cosplay? ~_^
> >
>
> You mean crossplay. ;-)
>
> Laters. =)
>
> Stan
LOL! nice.
Fish Eye no Miko wrote:
> "K. Jeffery Petersen" <sk...@goddos.net> wrote in message
> news:3E9C9C16...@goddos.net...
>
>
>>Fish Eye no Miko wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>I think that we know that it is a necessity for some
>>>>women, but probably underestimate just how many
>>>>women that includes.
>>>
>>>True.
>>>Oddly, since my surgery, I don't seem to have that many
>>>problems. Ok, now we're really getting into TMI territory.
>>
>>Y'know, I wonder if there are any newbies reading this who
>>are thinking of a different sort of surgery, given the topic at
>>hand.
>
>
> Oops. I mean my heart/lung transplant. ^_^
I figured as much, but without prior knowledge, it comes across as
something completely different. ^_^
> Catherine Johnson.
Damien Roc
>
>Hmm, I just imagined a garotte worked into an underwire bra. Now that would
>be an assassin's tool, wouldn't it?
>
Sounds almost like an episode of NOIR. Although it would probably have to
be Mirielle, since Kirika's not, well, busty...
I guess that means kitty brains are out of the question...
- 5parrow
O_O ......
> No, of course not. Which is why we do *have* to wear bras. It's not just
> to look pretty or to be "perky", it's to save us constant pain. But since
> certain men seem to think women shouldn't wear bras, what are the options?
> That was my point.
Let me put it this way. Not to generalize or denigrate any of the people
here, but IMO if you (as a guy) are going to commit to being with a
woman, you should be prepared to make a lifetime committment. (Eergh,
that sounds like one of those "don't abandon your pets" commercials.)
Therefore you want her to look as good (read: UN-saggy) as possible for
as long as possible. This necessitates certain sacrifices, like having
her wear a bra most of the time.
I know I'd rather have my significant other wear one now and look good
all the way into middle age, than take it off now and sag later on.
And besides... I like perky. So sue me.
>>>Well, I went there, since I'm not sure if guys really realize that bras
>>>ARE a necessity for many women.
>>I think that we know that it is a necessity for some women, but
>>probably underestimate just how many women that includes.
> True.
Good point, actually.
>>I mean, we don't actually have firsthand knowledge of the issue since
>>we're not physically built the same way.
> Which is why I decided to post what I did. As I said, I'm not sure if guys
> realize these things. And while it's ok for guys to make comment about
> girls go braless and all that (oh, sexy!), I just feel like a dose of
> reality is needed every once in awhile.
Of course, girls w/o bras look good, but not everything that looks good
is a good thing.
<Too Much Information ahead... avoid if squeamish>
I've been skinny most of my life (I'm a guy, btw, if you didn't pick
that up already), but at one point I put on quite a bit of flab (5'8"
and 176 lbs), and the first Bad Sign there was that I noticed a
slight...well, movement when jogging down stairs.
And I didn't even LOOK overweight either.
Now, if that could already cause some discomfort (not outright pain, of
course), I can certainly understand how a woman with a B cup could feel
really, really uncomfortable without the appropriate support.
</TMI>
- 5parrow
Chris Mattern
She also refuses to wear a bra when Kitsune tries to dress her up a few
times...
> > > Why do they do this to you? You should talk. You're not the one who
has to
> > > fit into the blasted things.
> >
> > You don't have too!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
> >
>
> Ethan! Realize you're talking to a prof!
> Don't give people here still in college a bad mental image!
> *SHAKES ASS like Arisa*
But, I am still in college.
> > > So... why didn't she make her two-piece in the beach ep
> > > a "one-piece" (not that kind of one-piece) then? *wink*wink*
> >
> > Because she is a modest catgirl, MODEST!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
> >
>
> Then why would she "go commando" and not wear bras?!
> Is it because she's a scut?! ^_^
Because she has a metal spine and doesn't have to worry about
scoliosis obviously, KNAVE!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
> I guess that means kitty brains are out of the question...
Perhaps I judged too hastily, HASTILY!!!!
Reminds me of a half-apocryphal story told to me by a professor when I
was at the University of Arizona.
One of his classes was scheduled in one of those auditoriums where the
feet of the people in one row are nearly at the head level of the
people sitting in front of them...and the lecturer's position was down
on the floor at the bottom of the room.
Quite a view.
The first day of the class, after taking attendance, he asked each
student, one at a time, to come down to the floor and look up at the
rest of the students, to see _exactly_ what the professor was seeing
while giving a lecture. They would then return to their seat, and the
next student would come down.
For the rest of the semester, no male student wore shorts and no female
student wore a short dress or mini-skirt when attending that class.
John L. Friese
*massages her temples* God... You really know nothing about bra sizes, do
you?
I'd predict the first four to be B cups, and Ritsuko and Misato to be C
cups. I have no idea what their measurement would be. Have to actually
measure them. >_>
And now I'm going to leave now and hopefully retain my dignity after
contributing to this thread.
--Taryn
I don't get it. Why *wouldn't* anybody want their SO to wear a bra
(if necessary)? If they aren't wearing a bra, you don't get the fun
of taking it off!
-=Eric
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> Reminds me of a half-apocryphal story told to me by a professor
> when I was at the University of Arizona.
Do you remember the professor? Just curious; I'm a UofA alumus myself.
^_^
Catherine Johnson, who's bummed that the Wildcats didn't even make the
Final Four this year.
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I don't know about anyone else, but I *like* looking at women in bras...
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, elsie wrote:
>
> Well, Catherine pretty much summed it up. The only thing I'd add to what she
> said about pain is that Happosai is right, whether Ranma's willing to admit
> it or not. They do sag if there isn't a bra to support them. Gravity pulls
> the weight of the breast down and stretches the skin and muscles that attach
> breasts to the chest wall. And that hurts.
it looks... really strange too. (wonders if there's a medical textbook on
the web that shows this... but i'm not going to be the one to google it)
> And the bigger the breasts, the
> further south they drop. Bras take the weight off the chest wall and
> redistribute it to the shoulders via the straps, which is why women with
> large breasts often develop deep grooves in their shoulders and rounded
> shoulders and neck problems. And those hurt too. The weight of the breasts
> is more than the neck and shoulders can support, even with a bra. If a
> woman's breasts are big enough that the HMO is willing to pay for the
> reduction, she should go for it, I say, and save the extra years of chronic
> pain.
where the straps on my bra fall, they distribute weight to the trapezius
muscle, not the shoulders. distributing the weight to the shoulders would
take something more like shoulderpads.
but as for breast reduction... i might just shrug. (yes, bad joke)
Lena
> Therefore you want her to look as good (read: UN-saggy) as possible for
> as long as possible. This necessitates certain sacrifices, like having
> her wear a bra most of the time.
lol let me tell you a few things.. it's not going to matter because once her
breasts become heavy, gravity takes over, or once she becomes pregnant, same
thing... so there is no un-saggy unless she is small and remains that way,
or doesn't have kids... I come from a family where my mother always said to
wear a bra so you won't sag (such a misconception!)... I so wish now I
hadn't listened to her.. I missed out on all those opportunities to look
nice and perky without a bra on... sigh.. oh well.. I guess I'm fortunate
from most women, I can say I've been every size from 32C to 44DD... (36DD
was nice..lol) unlike my 18 year old daughter who pretty much started out
at 44DD... she totally bypassed perky period.
And while we're on this topic.. anyone notice that gravity doesn't apply to
women's breasts in anime? I mean come on.. when they are standing up and
dressed.. they got nothing, but once they are naked and laying flat, they
are suddenly perfectly upright and massive?? lol.. only in anime... maybe
it's wish fulfillment... laugh..
Amethyst
> An artist friend of mine posted a primer on breasts and how they should
> properly look when drawn. Rather enlightening.
> http://www.smirnov.net/tutorials/breasts.php
Bravo! Bravo! Well done! Well illustrated! Someone who knows the effects
of gravity... lol
Amethyst
Well, whatever your opinion of this comic, you have to admit these are some
of the best drawn breasts on the web:
- Vaughner
"I'll have you know, in addition to knowing the secrets of the universe, I'm
quite potty trained!" - Ko-enma, Yu Yu Hakusho
>lol let me tell you a few things.. it's not going to matter because once her
>breasts become heavy, gravity takes over, or once she becomes pregnant, same
>thing... so there is no un-saggy unless she is small and remains that way,
>or doesn't have kids...
Hmm, kind of interesting hearing it put this way, but I suppose that would
be right. Gravity does have its influence and the more mass, the stronger
the force gravity exerts on it, basic physics. And as noted or kind of
implied earlier, the constant pull of gravity on the muscles, tendons, skin,
whatever of the body is bound to take its toll eventually.
>And while we're on this topic.. anyone notice that gravity doesn't apply to
>women's breasts in anime?
Well, we are dealing with fictitious cartoon physics here. :)
>I mean come on.. when they are standing up and
>dressed.. they got nothing, but once they are naked and laying flat, they
>are suddenly perfectly upright and massive??
Really? It's like totally backwards? I can't say that I've ever noticed
specific cases like that as being incorrect. Chances are there are some
things that register as looking unrealistic, but unless I actually take the
time to consciously think about it and try to figure out what exactly
appears wrong (which I usually don't) I just sort of brush it aside.
Suspension of disbelief is important sometimes.
>lol.. only in anime... maybe it's wish fulfillment... laugh..
Perhaps. I mean they do work in some things more for fan service than for
real story line purposes. It's not like I really mind though. :) Cute
busty and/or leggy women -- why would I complain if they're not actually
following real life physics if it looks good? ;)
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> Well, whatever your opinion of this comic, you have to admit these
> are some of the best drawn breasts on the web:
>
> http://www.sexylosers.com/
What makes them so special? They look like just about any other breasts
I've ever seen drawn.
Catherine Johnson.
Well, Michael Poe (Exploitation Now) has done it well.
I guess it was after I saw this tutorial on how to draw large breasts.
There was a quote on too many horny guys going for "volleyballs" and getting it
all wrong (with examples). Maybe I haven't seen enough examples to compare,
but after this, the drawings I mentioned just seemed to stick out (if you get
by the really, *really* nasty humor otherwise in it) . . .
laurie
As an afficinado of the more elegant cup sizes (A and B), I see absolutely
no problem with that.
Though I believe that what nature gave you is the best for your body, so I
hate to see reduction or enlargement, especially enlargement, though.
Ach! Too damn many of y'all!
> Catherine Johnson, who's bummed that the Wildcats didn't even make the
> Final Four this year.
Hey, try being a Sun Devils fan. It's kinda like following the Cubs.
But at least we get a nicer home city.
> Thank god none of you are my students. I'd never live it down.
You know, I am going to start college in Arizona in a year or so.
I wonder if they'll want me to take the SATs again.
> To bring it back on topic, a fair number of swordgirls do the wraps,
> like Motoko Aoyama (who actually IS bustier than she looks).
We're talking about bras and breasts, who cares about the topic????
>> To bring it back on topic, a fair number of swordgirls do the wraps,
>> like Motoko Aoyama (who actually IS bustier than she looks).
>
> Does she also wrap her belly? (in ancient times, wrapping of the
> belly was to let a samurai keep on fighting, even after taking a gut
> wound, which would otherwise cause the intestines to roll out of the
> wound).
If you're going to slice the belly, you're going to slice the wrap as well,
it won't really help. IIRC, the true reason for wrapping the belly is for
warmth. Like many ancient cultures, traditional japanese put a value on the
abdominal region far beyond digestion. It was believed to promote good
heath to keep the belly warm.
Sometimes it's not a matter of what nature gave you. If you have a long term
chronic illness, certain medications may cause breast development, even in
men. Someone may start out adulthood relatively small and gradually come to
the realization that she's developed to a D cup.
laurie
laurie
>
>> Well, Catherine pretty much summed it up. The only thing I'd add to what
>she
>> said about pain is that Happosai is right, whether Ranma's willing to admit
>> it or not. They do sag if there isn't a bra to support them. Gravity pulls
>> the weight of the breast down and stretches the skin and muscles that
>attach
>> breasts to the chest wall. And that hurts.
>
>it looks... really strange too. (wonders if there's a medical textbook on
>the web that shows this... but i'm not going to be the one to google it)
I dunno about medical texts, but I do recall an issue of National
Geographic I ran into about twenty years back, when I was about 10-11. I knew
better than to ask my mother about the differences between what I saw in the
magazine and what I saw in RL, so I had to work it out on my own. Gave me a
new appreciation for bras at a very young age...