What other examples are there of metafictional anime like this?
Arnold Kim
Genshiken - with the internal anime Kujibiki Unbalance - comes to mind.
Cheers,
Paul
Kujibiki Unbalance in Genshiken, of course (though it later was made one).
Just about every comedy show I can think of has one or refers to one,
usually an existing anime under a 'disguised' name.
Not just animes that appear inside animes either. In AMG, Skuld and Urd
have frequent fights over the television, who gets to watch what when -
Skuld likes animes and some other things, Urd wants her dramas (a thinly
disguised 'Winter Sonata' being the main one).
In Ai Yori Aoshi, video games serve the same purpose. Tina Foster, indeed,
is particularly fond of a series of them with a space wolf chara.
Both seasons of "The Secret of Haruka Nogizaka", each one has clips
and character merch from Haruka's favorite anime of that season.
Cap.
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"CHROME SHELLED REGIOS" (「鋼殻のレギオス」) has a mini-anime series
(in English within the Japanese meta-anime) that is introduced in a
portion in each episode. In one episode, a scene from the
anime-in-the-anime is shown by a member of the Masked Wolf troops to
Nina Antalk. Nina asks what the scene is about, and the member of the
Masked Wolf troops explains that it is a scene from the future.
I never figured out the relevance of the anime-in-the-anime to the
meta-anime. Since the former was in the English language and shown in
only short segments within the Japanese-language meta-anime which was
shown to a Japanese audience, I eventually assumed that the
anime-in-the-anime was a ploy to convince casual viewers that the
meta-anime was partly worth watching for the added value of being able
to practice listening to English. (I'm not sure whether the
anime-in-the-anime was good English listening practice to Nine Antalk,
however; IIRC, she never spoke English within the Japanese-language
series. A proof of the value of anime-in-the-anime in a non-Japanese
language to the foreign language listening skills of characters in the
Japanese-language meta-anime is left as an exercise. ;-) )
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>On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:56:45 -0500, "Arnold Kim"
><arno...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>I've been thinking of getting back into Nadesico again, and one of the
>>things I enjoyed about that was the metafictional anime, Gekiganger III and
>>the ways it parodied the cliches of 70s super robot shows.
>>
>>What other examples are there of metafictional anime like this?
>
>"CHROME SHELLED REGIOS" (「鋼殻のレギオス」) has a mini-anime series
>(in English within the Japanese meta-anime) that is introduced in a
>portion in each episode. In one episode, a scene from the
>anime-in-the-anime is shown by a member of the Masked Wolf troops to
>Nina Antalk. Nina asks what the scene is about, and the member of the
>Masked Wolf troops explains that it is a scene from the future.
Sorry; I just discovered (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chrome_Shelled_Regios_characters)
that the anime-in-the-anime is actually the "Legend of Regios," and it
in fact takes place in the past, not the future.
Apparently, the connection to the meta-anime has to do with the
Heavenly Blades and the right eye of Ailen, which is said to belong to
Leerin Marfes as Leerin's right eye. Saya, a character from the
"Legend of Regios," is responsible for the Heavenly Blades and decides
who will wield them. Further, Saya is a partner of Ailen, with whom
she wishes to be united. Saya appears in a reflection of Leerin's
eyes, and is fond of Leerin because Leerin's right eye, which is
called "Vine Eye," is actually Ailen's right eye.
Nanako 6/17 has a Magical girl show she is fond of.
Nanako SOS is a fan of Kolokolo Polon,
a different anime from the same studio.
Lunar Bunny Weapon Miina was an anime within the
Live-Action series Train Man, that went on to become
an anime in its own right.
Freakazoid had a favorite cartoon as well.
-Galen
On a side note, in Digimon Tamers, the previous Digimon
series is a TV show.
In Precure Splash Star, Futari Wa PreCure is a TV show.
In PreCure 5, the actress girl has a bit part on the filming
of PreCure Splash Star, which they describe as a popular
TV show.
"World of Narue" has an anime-in-the-anime in a few episodes, to show
that the lead male character was an otaku (Japanese meaning) before
meeting Narue. In one of those episodes, Narue cosplays as the anime's
lead character.
Tangentally related: "Smash Hit" is an anime about the filming of the
anime "Cosmopolitan Prayers" (or "CosPrayers"), although it's a
live-action show in the meta-story.
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There's an anime show (at least I think it's an anime series, it might
be a live-action show but it's being seen through an anime series so how
would you tell?) called Lovely Detective Chocolat (I think) which
sometimes appears on a TV set in the Hidamari Sketch series.
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>On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:56:45 -0500, "Arnold Kim"
><arno...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>I've been thinking of getting back into Nadesico again, and one of the
>>things I enjoyed about that was the metafictional anime, Gekiganger III and
>>the ways it parodied the cliches of 70s super robot shows.
>>
>>What other examples are there of metafictional anime like this?
>>
>>Arnold Kim
>
>"World of Narue" has an anime-in-the-anime in a few episodes, to show
>that the lead male character was an otaku (Japanese meaning) before
>meeting Narue. In one of those episodes, Narue cosplays as the anime's
>lead character.
>
>Tangentally related: "Smash Hit" is an anime about the filming of the
>anime "Cosmopolitan Prayers" (or "CosPrayers"), although it's a
>live-action show in the meta-story.
Oh, and there's a quick (couple of seconds) shot of "Love Hina" on a TV
in one episode of "Mao-chan". No big surprise, considering Ken Akamatsu
was responsible for both titles.
Yeah, that was awesome. They also made one of the best recap episodes
I've ever seen, switching the roles of Gekigangar and Nadesico.
> What other examples are there of metafictional anime like this?
"Puri Gorota" in "Nodame Cantabile".
cu
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flaw in my character."
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In Fight Ippatsu! Juden-chan, Plug is regularly seen watching and
enjoying the anime Ai no Senshi Sweetie Millie, a Magical Girl show in
which the lead character ends up in various compromising positions,
sometimes with tentacles, sometimes increasing Juden-chan's urinary
incontinence factor. I have to remember to link to this page when I
finally write the Being Upfront entry for this show:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitle1qb7j2ee
Watson
Hoo boy, if you saw some of Bow Ditama's pre-Mahoromatic H manga...
Something's been nagging at the back of my mind all day, and just got it
with the World of Narue reference - thanks Rob!
Animation Runner Kuromi, Parts 1 and 2 - 1 deals with the effort to produce
the second episode of current anime project called Time Journeys; 2 deals
with the price of success, being assigned to produce 3 shows at once.
Also, in DearS, the lead works at a video store and gets his school buddies
copies of the latest hentais.
And, in "Love Hina", the three main characters watched an anime
called "Liddo-kun" when they were small, and I think there was
an episode that showed Mutusmi's mis-remembering of an episode.
I know it was in the manga, not so sure about the anime.
>"Rob Kelk" <rob...@deadspam.com> wrote in message
>news:4af97556...@news.individual.net...
>>>
>>>Tangentally related: "Smash Hit" is an anime about the filming of the
>>>anime "Cosmopolitan Prayers" (or "CosPrayers"), although it's a
>>>live-action show in the meta-story.
>>
>
>Animation Runner Kuromi, Parts 1 and 2 - 1 deals with the effort to produce
>the second episode of current anime project called Time Journeys; 2 deals
>with the price of success, being assigned to produce 3 shows at once.
Paranoia Agent dealt with the making of anime, but I can't recall
if they showed any of the anime.
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-Jack
> Also, in DearS, the lead works at a video store and gets his school buddies
> copies of the latest hentais.
I thought those were supposed to represent live-action Adult Videos. Well,
it's not like you see anything more than DVD labels in it.
Watson.
> Arnold Kim wrote:
>
>> What other examples are there of metafictional anime like this?
>
> Genshiken - with the internal anime Kujibiki Unbalance - comes to mind.
Just as I read this "Kujibiki Unbalance" from Yoko Ishida's Hyper
Yocomix 2 started playing. An omen, perhaps?
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- Cassandra J. Nichols
You forgot that the Gekigengar crew watch Martian Successor Nadesico,
even if it was just a gimmick for a clip-show...
The only one I know of not addressed in this thread so far is Detective
Kun-Kun from Rozen Maiden Traumend (not doing those umlauts, can't make
me) which got spun off as a special which could be found on one of the
Rozen Maiden games for the PS2 if not elsewhere as well.
> Animation Runner Kuromi, Parts 1 and 2 - 1 deals with the effort to
> produce the second episode of current anime project called Time
> Journeys; 2 deals with the price of success, being assigned to
> produce 3 shows at once.
>
The 2006 voice actress shows REC and Love Get Chu naturally have internal
anime, the latter an ice skating show from the year before.
Excellent addition to the list - I've seen REC manga scans, but none of the
anime.
Good catch there. I had complely forgotten about that one.
Bobby
>
> I've been thinking of getting back into Nadesico again, and one of the
> things I enjoyed about that was the metafictional anime, Gekiganger
> III and the ways it parodied the cliches of 70s super robot shows.
>
I just skimmed over the Gekiganger Movie with Gekiganger_5 (1998 I think,
subbed in 2001). I keep forgetting how bad this is, even if Xebec did get
the old animators to do it. It's not just Voltron and the like, but I'm
seeing more similarities in the drawing style to Macross that I hadn't
noticed before.
Nadesico itself I love. Great science fiction and best of all, the
Gekiganger March.
> Sorry; I just discovered (see
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chrome_Shelled_Regios_characters)
> that the anime-in-the-anime is actually the "Legend of Regios," and it
> in fact takes place in the past, not the future.
>
> Apparently, the connection to the meta-anime has to do with the
> Heavenly Blades and the right eye of Ailen, which is said to belong to
> Leerin Marfes as Leerin's right eye. Saya, a character from the
> "Legend of Regios," is responsible for the Heavenly Blades and decides
> who will wield them. Further, Saya is a partner of Ailen, with whom
> she wishes to be united. Saya appears in a reflection of Leerin's
> eyes, and is fond of Leerin because Leerin's right eye, which is
> called "Vine Eye," is actually Ailen's right eye.
Either way, it was enough to knock the series from a B+ to a B- in my
book... almost a full letter grade.
One more, in Midori no Hibi (a.k.a. Midori Days), Shuichi Takamizawa is
obsessed with Ultra-Marin, an anime girl, but I don't remember if the
show she's from is mentioned or not.
Welcome to the NHK's protagonist also has several figurines of anime
girls. I haven't watched it, but I do remember when NewType USA
covered it enough to show some of the figures up close.
In 'Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu' there's the anime 'Clumsy Girl Aki-chan'.
See a bit of it early in episode one, and later on some of the characters
talk about it, read fan magazines about it, and visit web sites about it.
Don't know how big a role it plays in the rest of the series.
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