Gurren Lagann on The SciFi Channel
Herbie Garcia
ANN reports that GL will make its TV debut on July 28TH on its AniMonday
block.
This should be interesting.
HG-The Otakuman
DBBrandell
Great news, thanks for the heads up.
DBB
Mark Jones
changed or cut to suit the SFCs policies regarding anime? Language, sex,
that kind of thing?
rkl...@yahoo.com
The only real thing I could see them doing is using the original
broadcast version of episode 6 which is a "hot spring" episode and
possibly wanting to increase the size of Yoko's top as she's "bulging"
a little bit at the seams. Other than that, G-L is pretty good with
respect to that stuff IIRC. I plan on watching it.
Mark Jones
snip.........
Thanks, rklemic.......I'd thought I'd read that GL was made by some of
the same guys that did FLCL, and, well, you know, those fellas can get a
little wild...........
The Wanderer
> rklemic wrote:
>
> snip.........
How is it at all useful to "quote" someone only to snip out all of what
they said, without even providing a summary?
For that matter, I don't recall having ever seen you actually quote
something you were replying to; is there something wrong with your
newsreader such that it does not quote properly, as just about everyone
else's here does?
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Warning: Simply because I argue an issue does not mean I agree with any
side of it.
Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny.
Phillip Thorne
>ANN reports that GL will make its TV debut on July 28TH
>on its AniMonday block.
SCI FI's not-very-useful anime page:
<http://www.scifi.com/anime/>
Confirmation that GL is on the schedule:
<http://www.scifi.com/schedulebot/index.php3?date=28-JUL-2008&feed_req=>
Later on Mon, 19 May 2008, faf...@msn.com (Mark Jones) inquired:
>I'm not very familiar with this series.......will much need to be
>changed or cut to suit the SFCs policies regarding anime?
>Language, sex, that kind of thing?
Hey, this is the network that aired "Farscape" (let's make every tenth
word of dialogue an alien vulgarity!) and "Lexx" (now with more
blurred-out shower scenes!). And the CGI'd "Tripping the Rift."
From what I saw in the YouTube copies of the fansubbed GL eps... which
have probably been cease-and-desisted... little censoring will be
needed. I don't recall any nudity or horrible blood-gouts (but I
could be wrong). And subtitled vulgarities are easy to remove. (Does
AniMonday do subs? IIRC from previous conversation here, GL hasn't
undergone the dubbing process yet.)
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Mark Jones
actually type out whatever quotes I'm replying to, which can be a real
pain. I try to limit my 'non-quotes' to short threads which shouldn't be
difficult for others to figure out, but sometimes those short threads
gain sudden momentum and gain many more posts.Then it can get confusing,
I acknowledge........I apologize to the group for any such confusion.
Rob Kelk
<peth...@comcast.net> wrote:
<snip>
>From what I saw in the YouTube copies of the fansubbed GL eps... which
>have probably been cease-and-desisted... little censoring will be
>needed. I don't recall any nudity or horrible blood-gouts (but I
>could be wrong). And subtitled vulgarities are easy to remove. (Does
>AniMonday do subs? IIRC from previous conversation here, GL hasn't
>undergone the dubbing process yet.)
There's a dub cast listed on the AnimeNewsNetwork.com encyclopedia page
for the show. (Brett Weaver as Kamina, Luci Christian as Nia, Tiffany
Grant as Yoko, etc...)
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6698
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S.t.A.n.L.e.E
> On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:57:23 -0400, Phillip Thorne
> <peth...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >From what I saw in the YouTube copies of the fansubbed GL eps... which
> >have probably been cease-and-desisted... little censoring will be
> >needed. I don't recall any nudity or horrible blood-gouts (but I
> >could be wrong). And subtitled vulgarities are easy to remove. (Does
> >AniMonday do subs? IIRC from previous conversation here, GL hasn't
> >undergone the dubbing process yet.)
>
> There's a dub cast listed on the AnimeNewsNetwork.com encyclopedia page
> for the show. (Brett Weaver as Kamina, Luci Christian as Nia, Tiffany
> Grant as Yoko, etc...)
> http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6698
>
ADV's old cast probably....
Laters. =)
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The Wanderer
> To the Wanderer..........yes, you've hit it on the head. I need to
> actually type out whatever quotes I'm replying to, which can be a
> real pain.
Then your newsreader is broken, and you need to either fix it or get a
different one. (I mean, really - what kind of newsreader doesn't even
let you copy-and-paste text into a reply? For that matter, the ability
to quote more-or-less correctly has been around in newsreaders for
literally *decades* - how is it that something being used in the modern
day is missing that capability?)
If this is somehow impossible, unlikely though that seems, then you need
to stop posting (or at least posting casually) until it is no longer
impossible.
Captain Nerd
The Wanderer <inverse...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Mark Jones wrote:
>
> > To the Wanderer..........yes, you've hit it on the head. I need to
> > actually type out whatever quotes I'm replying to, which can be a
> > real pain.
>
> Then your newsreader is broken, and you need to either fix it or get a
> different one. (I mean, really - what kind of newsreader doesn't even
> let you copy-and-paste text into a reply? For that matter, the ability
> to quote more-or-less correctly has been around in newsreaders for
> literally *decades* - how is it that something being used in the modern
> day is missing that capability?)
>
> If this is somehow impossible, unlikely though that seems, then you need
> to stop posting (or at least posting casually) until it is no longer
> impossible.
Man, did someone piss in your granola or something? I've been on
Usenet for almost 20 years now, and your interpretation of quoting
is way too harsh. In fact, if you don't intend to refer to any
specific part of the post you're replying to, there's no need to
quote it, and if that means all you do is quote the attribution,
then that's fine, at least that's better than not at all. Most
modern newsreaders will let you get the article previous, and if
yours doesn't, maybe *you* should switch newsreaders...
Cap.
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The Wanderer
> In article <tfKdnSfiEfUxmqnV...@comcast.com>, The
> Wanderer <inverse...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Mark Jones wrote:
>>
>>> To the Wanderer..........yes, you've hit it on the head. I need
>>> to actually type out whatever quotes I'm replying to, which can
>>> be a real pain.
>>
>> Then your newsreader is broken, and you need to either fix it or
>> get a different one. (I mean, really - what kind of newsreader
>> doesn't even let you copy-and-paste text into a reply? For that
>> matter, the ability to quote more-or-less correctly has been around
>> in newsreaders for literally *decades* - how is it that something
>> being used in the modern day is missing that capability?)
>>
>> If this is somehow impossible, unlikely though that seems, then you
>> need to stop posting (or at least posting casually) until it is no
>> longer impossible.
>
> Man, did someone piss in your granola or something?
No, but I am not feeling particularly well, so that might have something
to do with it. (I wouldn't bet on it, though. I think this is just me
being me.)
> I've been on Usenet for almost 20 years now, and your interpretation
> of quoting is way too harsh.
That may be the case, but it does not apply in this particular instance.
I haven't even started talking about what constitutes "correct" quoting,
though that's a topic on which I've ranted at length in the past; so far
I've just requested (albeit in a tone implying "required") that he quote
at all.
> In fact, if you don't intend to refer to any specific part of the
> post you're replying to, there's no need to quote it, and if that
> means all you do is quote the attribution, then that's fine, at least
> that's better than not at all.
I'm sorry, but this is not consistent with either my personal opinion or
my experience of the opinions of other people who got their ideas about
quoting from anywhere but Web forums. If you are responding to a post,
the content of that post (or at least the part of it you're replying to)
needs to be visible when your reply is visible, to provide context for
your reply; if you're not replying to any specific part of it more than
any other, you need to quote *all* of it, not none. (At least on Usenet
and in E-mail. On Web forums and so forth, other criteria may apply.)
It can occasionally be appropriate to quote just the attribution and
snip the rest, e.g. when explicitly setting aside previous discussion to
step back and take a fresh stab at the same topic, but not very often.
> Most modern newsreaders will let you get the article previous, and if
> yours doesn't, maybe *you* should switch newsreaders...
The standard response to that is "how do you know the previous message
is going to be available to be gotten?" - particularly given flaky
newsservers and so forth. That doesn't apply to me in this instance, but
it is still an appropriate point.
An answer which does apply to me is simple: I can, but I shouldn't have
to. If understanding a particular post (by having the context for it)
requires loading a different post and then moving back and forth between
the two, I am far more likely to just get irritated and skip reading the
post entirely.
When that happens consistently, as in the case at hand, I may post a
"what the heck?" type of question; in this case, it turns out that
either it's being done intentionally (in which case the poster deserves
whatever flames may come his way) or the poster is under the impression
that he does not have any alternative (in which case either his
environment is utterly moronic, which may not be impossible given that
he appears to be using WebTV, or he's severely misinformed; neither is
necessarily his fault, but either is something he could fix, and neither
constitutes an excuse.)
Herbie Garcia
In a Blog post on Bandai Entertainment's site from Producer Toshi
Yoshida,Bang Zoom Entertainment will be working with Bandai & Aniplex on
the english dub version to the series but the deal for GL On TV isnt
finalized yet.
Should be soon.
The English Dub Cast will be announced at Fanime Con this weekend in San
Jose, CA.
See ya!
HG-The OTAKUMAN
Dave Watson
> Howdy all!
>
> In a Blog post on Bandai Entertainment's site from Producer Toshi
> Yoshida,Bang Zoom Entertainment will be working with Bandai & Aniplex on
> the english dub version to the series but the deal for GL On TV isnt
> finalized yet.
If that's the same Toshi Yoshida who used to head up Viz, I hope they
keep his wife/partner/mother of his children Trish Ledoux out of their
projects.
Watson
Never forgives, never forgets.
Mark Jones
'utterly moronic,' as the anonymity of the net allows you to do, I have
mentioned from time to time that I am a genuine neoluddite as concerns
computers and the net. I'll go farther, I'm a troglodyte when it comes
to these things.......a throwback to the days when a laptop was
something to sit on. In other words, I'm a duffer, ok? A certain number
of people in my age group ( that is, who didn't grow up in a PC society
) have problems wrapping our dusty old minds around all this stuff.
I can see this upsets you. but, like it or not, the net is vast and
includes surfers with a wide range of computer skills.........from the
little old lady with the email-only setup to the kid with the latest and
greatest graphics-intensive Doom machine. That's just the way it is, no
one has a monopoly on the net.........
I'll try not to be anymore annoying than I possibly can be, as I really
don't enjoy antagonizing people...........I'll try to at least indicate
whose post I'm replying to, and what topic is being discussed. That
might be a bit unorthodox, but it should be enough to minimize
confusion.
Now, about my not posting further.........I've been hooked on anime
since 1961. For most of my life thus far, that enthusiasm has been a
lonely experience.........most of the people I've known out there in the
'real world' couldn't care less about the subject. If you think I'm
going to just up and leave r.a.a.m. because you tell me I ought to,
think again.
Now, I'm finished with this. I prefer talking about anime than engaging
in pointless arguments..........don't we all? Well, except for that one
guy, of course...........
The Wanderer
> To the Wanderer...........while I wouldn't go so far as to call
> myself 'utterly moronic,' as the anonymity of the net allows you to
> do,
Actually, I did not call you that, nor did I intend to. I said that your
environment may be that, and as I said, that would not be your fault -
unless in fact you do control your environment, which (if it's that
moronic in the first place) you probably do not.
> I have mentioned from time to time that I am a genuine neoluddite as
> concerns computers and the net.
I don't remember seeing you mention that, but acknowledged.
> I'll go farther, I'm a troglodyte when it comes to these
> things.......a throwback to the days when a laptop was something to
> sit on. In other words, I'm a duffer, ok? A certain number of people
> in my age group ( that is, who didn't grow up in a PC society ) have
> problems wrapping our dusty old minds around all this stuff.
I have no problems with that, and I do make a certain degree of
allowance for it. It's a perfectly valid reason for not already doing
things right.
I do have problems with using that as a reason to refrain from learning
how to do things right, or as a reason to refuse to do things right.
> I can see this upsets you. but, like it or not, the net is vast and
> includes surfers with a wide range of computer skills.........from
> the little old lady with the email-only setup to the kid with the
> latest and greatest graphics-intensive Doom machine. That's just the
> way it is, no one has a monopoly on the net.........
Indeed, no one does, and all of those people do have a right to use the
'Net. But there are still standards, and some of them exist for a
reason; you'll notice that most of the little old ladies with only
E-mail access don't do much posting to public newsgroups and mailing
lists. (And some of them probably *do* quote correctly; I know of one
person on another newsgroup who was in much that situation, with the
possible exception of the "old" part, who happened to be one of that
newsgroup's biggest advocates of correct quoting.)
> I'll try not to be anymore annoying than I possibly can be, as I
> really don't enjoy antagonizing people...........I'll try to at least
> indicate whose post I'm replying to, and what topic is being
> discussed. That might be a bit unorthodox, but it should be enough to
> minimize confusion.
It's less than ideal, particularly when it is not (or, at least, should
not be) all that difficult to go farther than that and actually do
things correctly, but it would at least be an improvement.
> Now, about my not posting further.........I've been hooked on anime
> since 1961. For most of my life thus far, that enthusiasm has been a
> lonely experience.........most of the people I've known out there in
> the 'real world' couldn't care less about the subject. If you think
> I'm going to just up and leave r.a.a.m. because you tell me I ought
> to, think again.
I never said you should leave.
I just said you should refrain from posting. (I myself do much the same
thing during my intermittent, but fairly lengthy, periods of catching up
from having fallen months behind on the newsgroup.)
There wouldn't even be any need for you to do that if you would (could?)
learn to quote correctly. If you even provided some specific reason why
you *cannot* do that, no matter how much you might want to try, I might
accept it. (In practice I probably wouldn't, since just offhand I'm not
being able to think of any reason I'd consider valid, but it is always
possible.) For that matter, I might be willing to help you make whatever
changes would be necessary to be able to do it right, but I can't do
that if I don't know what the problems are.
> Now, I'm finished with this. I prefer talking about anime than
> engaging in pointless arguments..........don't we all? Well, except
> for that one guy, of course...........
I can agree with that, except that I don't see the issue of consistent,
egregious failure to quote to be pointless (or, for that matter, minor).
(Also, as a second point, and somewhat related to my reply to Cap: your
message was posted not as a reply to my most recent post but as a reply
to Herbie Garcia's own reply to that post, making it less practical to
"just check the previous message" to figure out the context. Automatic
quoting, as performed by most of the newsreaders I know about, would
have let you know about that immediately so that you could have avoided
the problem...)
bobbie sellers
> To the Wanderer...........while I wouldn't go so far as to call myself
> 'utterly moronic,' as the anonymity of the net allows you to do, I have
> mentioned from time to time that I am a genuine neoluddite as concerns
> computers and the net. I'll go farther, I'm a troglodyte when it comes
> to these things.......a throwback to the days when a laptop was
> something to sit on. In other words, I'm a duffer, ok? A certain number
> of people in my age group ( that is, who didn't grow up in a PC society
> ) have problems wrapping our dusty old minds around all this stuff.
>
with lots of stuff. I started with a Commodore 64 which would
be more web capable afaik than your WebTV. If you were a genuine
Neo-Luddite you would can your WEBTV and your TV and make do with
hand written books and an abacus.
I think you should spend a few bucks and get a real
computer. By a few bucks I mean looking around for a local
User Group preferably a Linux UG and inquiring about obsolete
equipment that might be available to replace your Web TV.
Linux can be perfectly easy to use by the way as is clear
since I use it.
I will admit to learning about it over an extended
period but still Linux for Dummies has plenty of information
for starting.
>
> > I can see this upsets you. but, like it or not, the net is vast and
> includes surfers with a wide range of computer skills.........from the
> little old lady with the email-only setup to the kid with the latest and
> greatest graphics-intensive Doom machine. That's just the way it is, no
> one has a monopoly on the net.........
>
Yes it does and I am totally suprised you got to the Usenet.
But if you cannot quote the posts you are replying to then
you make it very difficult to communicate. Posting should not be
replies but independent postings. If you cannot post directly
and have to use reply only don't get too discursive
>
>
> I'll try not to be anymore annoying than I possibly can be, as I really
> don't enjoy antagonizing people...........I'll try to at least indicate
> whose post I'm replying to, and what topic is being discussed. That
> might be a bit unorthodox, but it should be enough to minimize
> confusion.
>
> Now, about my not posting further.........I've been hooked on anime
> since 1961. For most of my life thus far, that enthusiasm has been a
> lonely experience.........most of the people I've known out there in the
> 'real world' couldn't care less about the subject. If you think I'm
> going to just up and leave r.a.a.m. because you tell me I ought to,
> think again.
I didn't even get seriously interested in anime until I was
about 65 and was lucky enough to have a rental shop in range. It does
tend to be a lonely experience for me too. All the friends I had who
might have enjoyed this stuff(anime & manga) have preceded me along
the path of no return. I have new pals in the local SF-LUG which
gets me to a coffee shop twice a month for a meeting with people
of various capacities in Linus xome so smart they can scarcely bring
their explanations down to bobbie level.
> Now, I'm finished with this. I prefer talking about anime than engaging
> in pointless arguments..........don't we all? Well, except for that one
> guy, of course...........
More than one guy but who counts... With a real computer you
can have a killfile/filter to get rid of argumentative twits.
later
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Mark Jones
'moronic' reference. The thing is, I've been called such things due to
my lack of computer skills, and I tend to go off at the sight of words
like that........I can see now that you're not some kid who just likes
to take potshots at easy targets. As you know, they're out there!
I can't take the time right now to properly answer your latest post (
been fairly occupied with 'real life' the last few days ), but I will
try to make future posts clearer........cutting and pasting may take
awhile longer, though. It's a long and very boring story, trust
me...........
The Wanderer
> Hey, Wanderer.........no hard feelings?
Not if you don't want there to be. I'm a little pricklier and more
abrasive these days than I used to or would rather be, possibly more
than a little, but it still takes quite a bit for me to hold a grudge.
> Sorry I misinterpreted the 'moronic' reference. The thing is, I've
> been called such things due to my lack of computer skills, and I tend
> to go off at the sight of words like that........I can see now that
> you're not some kid who just likes to take potshots at easy targets.
> As you know, they're out there!
Oh, they most certainly are.
> I can't take the time right now to properly answer your latest post (
> been fairly occupied with 'real life' the last few days ), but I
> will try to make future posts clearer........cutting and pasting may
> take awhile longer, though. It's a long and very boring story, trust
> me...........
I know how that sort of thing can go (and I have some sympathy for the
tedium of cutting and pasting, as well... what I need to do at work to
work around the culturally-broken quoting used there is probably not
quite that tedious, but certainly a fair bit up there.)