Realism in Anime...can you think of any examples?
le...@my-deja.com
films/OAVs/TV shows any of you would think of that contain elements of
realism, i.e. an attempt to use animation to portray realistic
characters/settings. Here are some titles that come to mind:
GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES
KIMAGURE ORANGE ROAD: I WANT TO RETURN TO THAT DAY
ONLY YESTERDAY
I CAN HEAR THE OCEAN
PATLABOR 2
WHISPER OF THE HEART
SANCTUARY
PERFECT BLUE
INITIAL D
MASTER KEATON
JIN-ROH
TOKYO GODFATHERS
PARANOIA AGENT
If I had to pick the ones from this list that really stand out as the
most "realistic," I'd cite mainly the Ghibli films, ONLY YESTERDAY, I
CAN HEAR THE OCEAN, and WHISPER OF THE HEART and, after those, INITIAL
D and TOKYO GODFATHERS.
Any additions to the list?
Thanks.
elsie
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laurie
Fish Eye no Miko
> I'm thinking of doing a paper on Realism in Anime and I wondered
> what films/OAVs/TV shows any of you would think of that contain
> elements of realism, i.e. an attempt to use animation to portray
> realistic characters/settings. Here are some titles that come to
> mind:
>
> GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES
> KIMAGURE ORANGE ROAD: I WANT TO RETURN TO
> THAT DAY
> ONLY YESTERDAY
> I CAN HEAR THE OCEAN
> PATLABOR 2
> WHISPER OF THE HEART
> SANCTUARY
> PERFECT BLUE
> INITIAL D
> MASTER KEATON
> JIN-ROH
> TOKYO GODFATHERS
> PARANOIA AGENT
If I understand what you're asking for, the first Kenshin OVA also
qualifies.
And maybe _Peacemaker_?
Catherine Johnson.
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Dave Baranyi
There is a fairly large field of "everyday life" anime - many school anime,
salaryman anime, etc. Some examples include:
Atashi 'n chi
Tsuribaka
Salaryman Kintaro
GTO
His and Her Circumstances
Good luck -
Dave Baranyi
Dave Baranyi
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> le...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking of doing a paper on Realism in Anime and I wondered
>> what films/OAVs/TV shows any of you would think of that contain
>> elements of realism, i.e. an attempt to use animation to portray
>> realistic characters/settings. Here are some titles that come to
>> mind:
>>
>> GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES
>> KIMAGURE ORANGE ROAD: I WANT TO RETURN TO
>> THAT DAY
>> ONLY YESTERDAY
>> I CAN HEAR THE OCEAN
>> PATLABOR 2
>> WHISPER OF THE HEART
>> SANCTUARY
>> PERFECT BLUE
>> INITIAL D
>> MASTER KEATON
>> JIN-ROH
>> TOKYO GODFATHERS
>> PARANOIA AGENT
>
> If I understand what you're asking for, the first Kenshin OVA also
> qualifies.
> And maybe _Peacemaker_?
>
If he is considering Historical Anime, then Hidamari no Ki would stand out.
Dave Baranyi
Bobby Clark
Add "Okusama wa Joshikousei" to the list. Also you could add Master Keaton,
Somedays Dreamers, His and Her circumstances to name a few.
Bobby
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Sorry for not seeing Master Keaton. Pulled the Ethernet cable in an attempt
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Arthur Kimes
] I'm thinking of doing a paper on Realism in Anime and I wondered what
] films/OAVs/TV shows any of you would think of that contain elements of
] realism, i.e. an attempt to use animation to portray realistic
] characters/settings. Here are some titles that come to mind:
Monster
Many sports-related shows
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Captain Nerd
le...@my-deja.com wrote:
Well, some might argue with your criteria based on the above,
but if I understand what you're getting at, these might also
fit your description:
Planetes
both of the "Ghost in the Shell:Standalone Complex" series
The Place Promised in Our Early Days
Genshiken
The Gokusen
Witch Hunter Robin
Noir
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> If I had to pick the ones from this list that really stand out as the
> most "realistic," I'd cite mainly the Ghibli films, ONLY YESTERDAY, I
> CAN HEAR THE OCEAN, and WHISPER OF THE HEART and, after those, INITIAL
> D and TOKYO GODFATHERS.
>
> Any additions to the list?
Please explain your criteria for "realism" for I would not consider the
majority of the series you listed as being "realistic."
Farix
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Fish Eye no Miko
> Please explain your criteria for "realism" for I would not consider
> the majority of the series you listed as being "realistic."
_Paranoia Agent_ alone throws it way far afield of realism...
I'm kinda wondering what he means, too. Anime that takes place in real
places? Don't a lot of anime take place in Japan? I could actually think
of a lot of very UNreal series that take place in very REAL places.
Catherine Johnson.
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Aje RavenStar
"Fish Eye no Miko" <fis...@deadmoon.circus> wrote in message
How about Anime in realism? This, for example:
http://www.click2houston.com/family/5251706/detail.html
Is that or is that not an anime pup?
Captain Nerd
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I don't know, but isn't someone making big bucks off of selling
what we used to call "mutts?"
Cap.
(... just say "no" to a St. Chihuahuanard ...)
le...@my-deja.com
the
majority of the series you listed as being "realistic." "
Fair question, but I haven't necessarily figured out what those
criteria are. This list was all off the top of my head after hearing a
call for papers on realism and naturalism in the cinema and wondering
if I could put together something on realism in anime.
Certainly TOKYO GODFATHER has realistic elements in its creation of a
modern Tokyo that encompasses a homeless camp and immigrant
neighborhoods, but the plot may not be terribly realistic. So I'm
interested in those realist and naturalist elements. INITIAL D seems to
me to strongly capture the texture and feel and look of its setting and
the pace of these kids' lives, even though the character design may be
a little cartoonish and the mix of 2-D and 3-D elements works better in
some eps. than in others. But there are realistic elements in the
depiction of the setting and in the behavior of the young characters.
For PERFECT BLUE, I would single out the depiction of fan culture as
seen in the "Cham" show presented early in the film and the everyday
aspects of Mima's existence: subway, grocery store, apartment, web
site, etc. I could go through each of the ones on my list and pick out
some things in each.
So maybe I should be focusing on realist/naturalist elements in anime
as opposed to "realistic" anime.
This is all a work in progress in my head and I appreciate any
feedback, criticism, etc.
I've got my work cut out for me since I know very little about many of
the suggested titles, e.g. GENKISHEN and THE GOKUSEN, to name a couple.
Thank you.
Farix
> "Please explain your criteria for "realism" for I would not consider
> the
> majority of the series you listed as being "realistic." "
>
>
> Fair question, but I haven't necessarily figured out what those
> criteria are. This list was all off the top of my head after hearing a
> call for papers on realism and naturalism in the cinema and wondering
> if I could put together something on realism in anime.
Before doing anything, I would first suggest you figure out just what
the criteria are for realism and naturalism with reguards to cinima.
Otherwise, your paper will be sunk before you write the first word.
Captain Nerd
le...@my-deja.com wrote:
If you don't mind a suggestion or two other than titles, you might
also think about what other aspects of "reality" you're interested
in. For instance, if a character acted in a believable way, even
though the setting is fantasy, would that be "realistic"? How much
of a character's behavior is stereotypical? If a fantasy setting or
premise is internally self-consistent and consistent over time,
regardless of story development, would that be "realistic"? These
are some questions that ultimately you would have to answer for
yourself, if you want to.
Personally, I rate comedies much lower on the "realism" scale than
dramas, although there are exceptions. "A Place Promised" is a
drama I would consider realistic, even though the premise is pure
fantasy, in that it is set in an alternate Japan in which the US
and the Soviet Union both fought WWII in Japan and divided it like
they did Germany. The characters act in a realistic way, though,
so to me it's more realistic than "Noir", which has characters that
really don't act all that normal or "realistically"
I guess I really haven't helped, much, but basically you should
think about your definitions some more. And watch more anime!
Call it, "research."
^=======^
Cap.
axlq
>films/OAVs/TV shows any of you would think of that contain elements of
>realism, i.e. an attempt to use animation to portray realistic
>characters/settings.
OTAKU NO VIDEO
KARE KANO (HIS & HER CIRCUMSTANCES)
PORCO ROSSO
>Here are some titles that come to mind:
>
>KIMAGURE ORANGE ROAD: I WANT TO RETURN TO THAT DAY
Realistic characters? A family of psychics?
>PATLABOR 2
Ummm.... right.
-A
Inu-Yasha
Possible also Maison Ikkoku??
Inu-Yasha
Feh!!
Inu-Yasha
I'm sure I'll get some laughs about this one, but Divergence Eve/Misaki
Chronicles had some realistic parts alluding to certain historical
situations in Japan's past.
Inu-Yasha
Feh!!
?? Paranoia Agent ?? Might as well say MPD Psycho *_*;
Steve Harrison
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It's too bad it's not on DVD in the US, but Leiji Matsumoto's 'the
Cockpit' would probably fit perfectly with the criteria.
I'd also be inclined to second Planetes....damn this is a fine show....
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> films/OAVs/TV shows any of you would think of that contain elements of
> realism, i.e. an attempt to use animation to portray realistic
> characters/settings. Here are some titles that come to mind:
>
> most "realistic," I'd cite mainly the Ghibli films, ONLY YESTERDAY, I
> CAN HEAR THE OCEAN, and WHISPER OF THE HEART and, after those, INITIAL
> D and TOKYO GODFATHERS.
>
> Any additions to the list?
Well that depends on what your version of reality is, because
it my reality, MY REALITY!
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Nodoka
Aka-chan to Boku (Baby & Me) - young boy helping his widowed father raise
baby brother
Mizuiro Jidai (Blue-Green Years or Aqua Age) - slice-of-life of junior-high
girl (one episode invites comparison with a certain sequence in Ghibli's
"Omoide PoroPoro (Tearful Memories)").
You might also want to check out Hana Yori Dango (Boys Before Flowers) which
*is* commercially available
Other realistic settings: City Hunter (tour the underside of Shinjuku),
Yawara (I think done by the same team as Master Keaton, and possibly Monster
as well, similar character design at any rate).
Captain Nerd
"Nodoka" <nod...@NOSPAM.storyanime.com> wrote:
> Not out on DVD in the US, but fansubs are around:
>
> Aka-chan to Boku (Baby & Me) - young boy helping his widowed father raise
> baby brother
And another "kid raising a kid" story that I completely forgot about,
"Aishiteruze Baby." I don't believe it's licensed yet, if it ever
will be.
Pete Zaitcev (OTID3)
> There is a fairly large field of "everyday life" anime - many school anime,
> salaryman anime, etc. Some examples include:
>
> Atashi 'n chi
> Tsuribaka
> Salaryman Kintaro
> GTO
> His and Her Circumstances
I think Fuujin Monogotari (Windy Tales) beats all of the above in
the realism department.
-- Pete
Andrew Hollingbury
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Aside from the flying cats/squirrels/wind users, you mean.
Andrew H
arnold kim
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And Alexis Bledel. Really big, beautiful eyes. The closest I've ever seen
in real life to an anime character's.
Arnold Kim
arnold kim
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I didn't see anyone mention Barefoot Gen (semi-autobiographical story about
Hiroshima) and Gunsmith Cats (actually used members of the real Chicago PD
as consultants, though is likely no more "realistic" than a Lethal Weapon
movie)
Arnold Kim