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Can someone email me with a tiny description of what exactly is meant by this
term. I read it a lot in respones and it's getting the better of me.
Any other terms I should be aware?

Thank much!!
Cameron

E Ross

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s...@interlog.com (.) writes:

>Can someone email me with a tiny description of what exactly is meant by this
>term. I read it a lot in respones and it's getting the better of me.
>Any other terms I should be aware?

Okay, I know a million people are going to say the same things, but fan
service means serving the perverted tastes of fans. Clevage, bouncy
chests, panties, panty shots, bathing suits, showers and towels, and of
course naked girls. Well, it also includes basically anything sexual as
well, although sex scenes and the like aren't "fan service", strictly
speaking, it has to be gratutious, and not part of the main point of the
story.

Anyway, you know what it is when you and your friends go: " WOOHOO! "

>Thank much!!
>Cameron
>


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Mark David

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s...@interlog.com (.) wrote:

>Can someone email me with a tiny description of what exactly is meant by this
>term. I read it a lot in respones and it's getting the better of me.
>Any other terms I should be aware?

Fan-service is when the female Ranma loses his shirt or when a panty
is revelaed.

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mad...@achilles.net | the quality is there."
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Nobutoshi Ito

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It usually means "unnecessary nude scenes (or panty shots etc)"
here in raam. Sometimes an entire episode can be sort of fan
service (eg, "Girls Squadron In The Snow Country" for Airbats).

BTW, it is not an anime-specific word and rally means is
"unnecessary things/act/etc just to please (appease) fans".
So, to me, things like "Tuxedo-power Make-Up!" in SMoon and
the costume-plays by Saber Dolls in SM-J are "fan service", too.
--
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Enrique Conty

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In article <5n5enq$9...@news.interlog.com> s...@interlog.com (.) writes:
>Can someone email me with a tiny description of what exactly is meant by this
>term. I read it a lot in respones and it's getting the better of me.

An euphemism for "gratuitous scene", since it's there
"as a service to the fans". Example:
- Cute girl gets a new outfit, and they do a slow panning shot
from the feet to the head. Extra points if said outfit is
sexier than her usual clothes.
- The mecha does a really cool pose for no
discernible reason after beating off an enemy.

--
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co...@cig.mot.com
http://www.mcs.net/~conty

Rumor

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A sound was heard, drifting upon the winds, that nestled in my furred,
wolven ears. er...@u.washington.edu (E Ross) had spoken such sounds,
and what I perceived of them was thus:

>s...@interlog.com (.) writes:

>>Can someone email me with a tiny description of what exactly is meant by this
>>term. I read it a lot in respones and it's getting the better of me.

>>Any other terms I should be aware?

>Okay, I know a million people are going to say the same things, but fan
>service means serving the perverted tastes of fans. Clevage, bouncy
>chests, panties, panty shots, bathing suits, showers and towels, and of
>course naked girls. Well, it also includes basically anything sexual as
>well, although sex scenes and the like aren't "fan service", strictly
>speaking, it has to be gratutious, and not part of the main point of the
>story.
>Anyway, you know what it is when you and your friends go: " WOOHOO! "

Just to clarify, fan service does not necessarily have to do with
anything sexual... it just usually does. ^_~
Basically, it's throwing in something 'cool' that the usual, or
majority of, fans of the series/movie/whatever will enjoy, even though
it serves no actual purpose to the story. Usually, yes, this is
sex-based, like random cleavage/breast/panty/sex shots. Some other
examples would be, in anime, gratuitous use of mecha, gratuitous
massive explosions and other things that make loud noises (^_^), and,
well... pretty much anything gratuitous, you see, that will make
people, as E Ross puts it, go "Woohoo!"
Sometimes an entire movie or a whole series, such as a spin-off from
a popular series, can in itself be completely fan service. And I will
refrain from naming any particular ones I may have in mind here...
The point is, it'll be cool, but it won't be necessary. In fact, it
may even retract from the enjoyment for some people who are
disappointed with such an obvious ploy. Usually, it's overdone and
quite obvious, too. Fan service is not meant to be subtle.

-- Rumor

Luke Laurence Mason

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Fan Service

Eva: Whenever Misato bends over the kitchen table.
Plastic Little: Whenever Tita is on screen.
Smoon: Transformations, panty shots
Ranma: Ranmachan without a shirt
El Hazard: Alielle, Shayla Shaylas dress
Gsmith Cats: Rally's blouse being ripped up by a honking great hook

Etc
Gratuitous, non plot driven ecchiness.

Luke
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Weapon X

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On 5 Jun 1997, E Ross wrote:

> s...@interlog.com (.) writes:
>
> >Can someone email me with a tiny description of what exactly is meant by this
> >term. I read it a lot in respones and it's getting the better of me.
> >Any other terms I should be aware?
>
> Okay, I know a million people are going to say the same things, but fan
> service means serving the perverted tastes of fans.

Well, I wouldn't exactly say that it's necessarily serving the "perverted
tastes of fans." It's meant to please male viewers by having gratuitous
displays of the female body, which is something most guys like a lot
anyways (the female body, that is).

However, a lot of people don't appreciate the gratuitousness of it. I
think you would be more right in saying that "fan service means serving
the perverted fans."
^_^;;

Weapon "did that make any sense whatsoever????" X


Weapon X

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On 5 Jun 1997, Nobutoshi Ito wrote:

>
> It usually means "unnecessary nude scenes (or panty shots etc)"
> here in raam. Sometimes an entire episode can be sort of fan
> service (eg, "Girls Squadron In The Snow Country" for Airbats).

H_H Mitaka...

Hey, noone said that fan service is always a bad thing..<MML>
^_-

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Kwesi Ako Kennedy

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Rumor wrote:

> Sometimes an entire movie or a whole series, such as a spin-off from
> a popular series, can in itself be completely fan service. And I will
> refrain from naming any particular ones I may have in mind here...

You wouldn't be speaking of errrrummmmmm........GINREI?!?!?!

This parody series was quite possibly the best use of extended
fanservice ever IMHO.

Where the HECK did that bazooka come from?!?!?!?

Kweis Ako Kennedy

Evan Jones

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Jun 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/6/97
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In article <5n6k9i$95t$1...@trotsky.cig.mot.com>,
Enrique Conty <co...@rtsg.mot.com> wrote:

>In article <5n5enq$9...@news.interlog.com> s...@interlog.com (.) writes:
>>Can someone email me with a tiny description of what exactly is meant by this
>>term. I read it a lot in respones and it's getting the better of me.
>
>An euphemism for "gratuitous scene", since it's there
>"as a service to the fans". Example:
>- Cute girl gets a new outfit, and they do a slow panning shot
> from the feet to the head. Extra points if said outfit is
> sexier than her usual clothes.
>- The mecha does a really cool pose for no
> discernible reason after beating off an enemy.
>
Don't forget "jiggle-fests", as seen in Gunbuster (some), Plastic Little
and Burn Up W! ^_^


DamienRoc

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Jun 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/6/97
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>
>> It usually means "unnecessary nude scenes (or panty shots etc)"
>> here in raam. Sometimes an entire episode can be sort of fan
>> service (eg, "Girls Squadron In The Snow Country" for Airbats).

>H_H Mitaka...

>Hey, noone said that fan service is always a bad thing..<MML>

I certainly never did. (We need more Gainax stuff!!! Plot and service!)

Damien Roc
who doesn't see any problem
Damien R...@aol.com
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Ukyou kicks @$$
Anne hits me a lot

.

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Jesus, you guys are eager to please!!
OK, no problemo, "fan service".. GOT IT!!!

Cameron Scholes

In article <19970606203...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,


dami...@aol.com (DamienRoc) wrote:
>>
>>> It usually means "unnecessary nude scenes (or panty shots etc)"
>>> here in raam. Sometimes an entire episode can be sort of fan
>>> service (eg, "Girls Squadron In The Snow Country" for Airbats).
>
>>H_H Mitaka...
>
>>Hey, noone said that fan service is always a bad thing..<MML>
>
>I certainly never did. (We need more Gainax stuff!!! Plot and service!)
>
>Damien Roc
>who doesn't see any problem
>Damien R...@aol.com
>Quasi-Affirmative Anime Dust Bucket:
> http://www.eskimo.com/~tetsuya/jeff/home.htm

>..sig stolen by Anne Packrat, will replace ASAP

DamienRoc

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>Jesus, you guys are eager to please!!
>OK, no problemo, "fan service".. GOT IT!!!

>Cameron Scholes

Who is this guy?

("_eager_ to please"? What the heck does that mean?)

Damien Roc
doesn't know

DamienRoc

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Hmm... Where can I get this series? (Haven't heard of it before.) It
sounds awesome!

Damien Roc
actually likes the occasional fan service

Mark David

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dami...@aol.com (DamienRoc) wrote:

>Hmm... Where can I get this series? (Haven't heard of it before.) It
>sounds awesome!

If he was refering to the GinRei specials, I have them both fansubed.
Yes, it was basicaly a two OVA fan-service :)

Elias Ross

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dami...@aol.com (DamienRoc) writes:

>>Jesus, you guys are eager to please!!
>>OK, no problemo, "fan service".. GOT IT!!!

>>Cameron Scholes

>Who is this guy?

He's the guy who originally asked about fan service.

>("_eager_ to please"? What the heck does that mean?)

We wrote a lot in response.

>Damien Roc
>doesn't know

:P

Rumor

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A sound was heard, drifting upon the winds, that nestled in my furred,
wolven ears. Kwesi Ako Kennedy <kake...@unity.ncsu.edu> had spoken

such sounds, and what I perceived of them was thus:

>Rumor wrote:

>> Sometimes an entire movie or a whole series, such as a spin-off from
>> a popular series, can in itself be completely fan service. And I will
>> refrain from naming any particular ones I may have in mind here...

>You wouldn't be speaking of errrrummmmmm........GINREI?!?!?!

Actually, I was thinking along the lines of Nihao my Concubine and
Magical Girl Pretty Sammy (like I said, it doesn't always have to be
sex... but the show has no point).
I haven't actually seen Ginrei, but from what I've heard, you're
prolly right.

-- Rumor
(who fears backlash for that MGPS comment... and will add IMNSHO right
now...)

>Kweis Ako Kennedy


Weapon X

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On Sun, 8 Jun 1997, . wrote:

> Jesus, you guys are eager to please!!
> OK, no problemo, "fan service".. GOT IT!!!
>

??

Berk' Watkins

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> If he was refering to the GinRei specials, I have them both fansubed.
> Yes, it was basicaly a two OVA fan-service :)

And it gets really spooky when everybody starts wearing GenRei skirts
(though I don't think they tried to cram Robo into one if memory serves...)

--
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Jerry Garcia inspired that man to help
us out on that dark, stormy night."

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Kwesi Ako Kennedy

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Berk' Watkins wrote:
>
> > If he was refering to the GinRei specials, I have them both fansubed.
> > Yes, it was basicaly a two OVA fan-service :)
>
> And it gets really spooky when everybody starts wearing GenRei skirts
> (though I don't think they tried to cram Robo into one if memory serves...)

To hell with that when you have....GENREI ROBO!!!!

Actuallt the spooky part was in the bathroom when Ko-Enshaku was using
the bathroom. Yikes!

Earlier I said it was a series since I was under the impression that
there were more tapes beyond the two I had see. Were they numbered
funny or something because I was sure it ran for several more episodes
beyond that.

Kwesi Ako Kennedy

Berk' Watkins

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> To hell with that when you have....GENREI ROBO!!!!

I forgot about that ^_^;

yo...@earthlink.net

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In article <5n7rng$o...@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>, Weapon X <krra...@acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote:
>On 5 Jun 1997, E Ross wrote:
>
>> s...@interlog.com (.) writes:
>>
>> >Can someone email me with a tiny description of what exactly is meant by
> this
>> >term. I read it a lot in respones and it's getting the better of me.
>> >Any other terms I should be aware?
>>
>> Okay, I know a million people are going to say the same things, but fan
>> service means serving the perverted tastes of fans.
>
>Well, I wouldn't exactly say that it's necessarily serving the "perverted
>tastes of fans." It's meant to please male viewers by having gratuitous
>displays of the female body, which is something most guys like a lot
>anyways (the female body, that is).

Uhmm... I don't see anyone mentioning that girls get their fan service, too.
Several scenes in 'Saint Seiya' come to mind, as well as 'Bastard!' And don't
tell me some of you girls didn't appreciate male Ranma or Ryouga struting
their stuff.

Which I have no problems with. Equal opportunity fan service for all!!!

Ja na
Roger Morse
AWOL-Denver
"There is no such thing as 'gratuitous nudity' in the Temple of H!"

Jason Chu

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Evan Jones <eij...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
: Don't forget "jiggle-fests", as seen in Gunbuster (some), Plastic Little
: and Burn Up W! ^_^

Burn up W is just RIDICULOUS. I mean there are a lotta anime out there
that draw women with big breasts, but this one really goes that extra bra
size...

Mike Breen

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On Fri, 13 Jun 97 05:33:04 GMT, yo...@earthlink.net wrote:
>Uhmm... I don't see anyone mentioning that girls get their fan service, too.
>Several scenes in 'Saint Seiya' come to mind, as well as 'Bastard!' And don't
>tell me some of you girls didn't appreciate male Ranma or Ryouga struting
>their stuff.

Yeah, and you can't tell me that the Joe-in-the-shower scene in
Gatch'94 wasn't an example of gratuitous female fan service...

---Mike

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DamienRoc

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>: Don't forget "jiggle-fests", as seen in Gunbuster (some), Plastic
Little
>: and Burn Up W! ^_^

>Burn up W is just RIDICULOUS. I mean there are a lotta anime out there
>that draw women with big breasts, but this one really goes that extra bra
>size...

Is this a problem?

Damien Roc
doesn't think so

Donny CHAN

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Jun 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/15/97
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In article <5nqmde$s...@argentina.earthlink.net>, yo...@earthlink.net wrote:
]Uhmm... I don't see anyone mentioning that girls get their fan service, too.
]Several scenes in 'Saint Seiya' come to mind, as well as 'Bastard!' And don't
]tell me some of you girls didn't appreciate male Ranma or Ryouga struting
]their stuff.

That's one of the reasons I stopped watching Fushigi Yuugi after Ep 8, and
never watched any Slam Dunk. Used to watch Captain Tsubasa though.

]Which I have no problems with. Equal opportunity fan service for all!!!

ERTW (Equal Rights To Women).

---

"'Kaze no lullaby' kiite kudasai."
- Tokimaturi Eve, Mugen Titai Megazone 23 (1985)

Weapon X

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On 13 Jun 1997, DamienRoc wrote:

> >: Don't forget "jiggle-fests", as seen in Gunbuster (some), Plastic
> Little
> >: and Burn Up W! ^_^
>
> >Burn up W is just RIDICULOUS. I mean there are a lotta anime out there
> >that draw women with big breasts, but this one really goes that extra bra
> >size...
>
> Is this a problem?

In this particular instance, yes.

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DamienRoc

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>]Uhmm... I don't see anyone mentioning that girls get their fan service,
too.
>]Several scenes in 'Saint Seiya' come to mind, as well as 'Bastard!' And
don't
>]tell me some of you girls didn't appreciate male Ranma or Ryouga
struting
>]their stuff.

>That's one of the reasons I stopped watching Fushigi Yuugi after Ep 8,
and
>never watched any Slam Dunk. Used to watch Captain Tsubasa though.

What happened in ep. 8? I can't remember.

Besides, a problem with some fan-service seems (to me, at least) to be a
really stupid reason for NOT watching FY. It's got so much more than that
to it.

Damien Roc
wishes he could mararthon through FY

Mark David

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dami...@aol.com (DamienRoc) wrote:

>Besides, a problem with some fan-service seems (to me, at least) to be a
>really stupid reason for NOT watching FY. It's got so much more than that
>to it.

A few days ago I got in 37-44. Lot's and lot's of hard-core female
fan-service.

Hey...what are YOU doing watching subs?

FY is an example of an anime you'll never see dubbed. Definitely to
long (can we tie that in with the dub-liker's attention span?) That's
a good thing for some anime that would be an insult to dub, like LoGH.

Arnold Kim

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On 15 Jun 1997, Donny CHAN wrote:

> ]Uhmm... I don't see anyone mentioning that girls get their fan service, too.
> ]Several scenes in 'Saint Seiya' come to mind, as well as 'Bastard!' And don't
> ]tell me some of you girls didn't appreciate male Ranma or Ryouga struting
> ]their stuff.
>
> That's one of the reasons I stopped watching Fushigi Yuugi after Ep 8, and
> never watched any Slam Dunk. Used to watch Captain Tsubasa though.

I've seen about half the entire Slam Dunk TV series. Didn't really see
anything I could perceive as fan service.

Arnold Kim
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Mike Breen

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On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:57:15 GMT, mad...@achilles.net (Mark David)
wrote:

>FY is an example of an anime you'll never see dubbed. Definitely to
>long (can we tie that in with the dub-liker's attention span?)

I've come to the conclusion that Super Moron goes out of his way to be
an asshole, and enjoys it. I don't think I've seen one message from
him that dosen't offend _someone_.

Shrumster

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Donny CHAN wrote:
>
> In article <5nqmde$s...@argentina.earthlink.net>, yo...@earthlink.net wrote:
> ]Uhmm... I don't see anyone mentioning that girls get their fan service, too.
> ]Several scenes in 'Saint Seiya' come to mind, as well as 'Bastard!' And don't
> ]tell me some of you girls didn't appreciate male Ranma or Ryouga struting
> ]their stuff.
>
> That's one of the reasons I stopped watching Fushigi Yuugi after Ep 8, and
> never watched any Slam Dunk. Used to watch Captain Tsubasa though.
>
> ]Which I have no problems with. Equal opportunity fan service for all!!!
>
> ERTW (Equal Rights To Women).
>
> ---
>
> "'Kaze no lullaby' kiite kudasai."
> - Tokimaturi Eve, Mugen Titai Megazone 23 (1985)

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In article <33a74faa...@news1.channel1.com>,

mi...@user1.NO_SPAM.com (Mike Breen) wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:57:15 GMT, mad...@achilles.net (Mark David)
>wrote:
>>FY is an example of an anime you'll never see dubbed. Definitely to
>>long (can we tie that in with the dub-liker's attention span?)
>
>I've come to the conclusion that Super Moron goes out of his way to be
>an asshole, and enjoys it. I don't think I've seen one message from
>him that dosen't offend _someone_.
>
>---Mike

I saw one that didn't seem so bad. Mind you, it was only one line,
and I was expecting something truly nasty.

Chris Schack

DamienRoc

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>> >Burn up W is just RIDICULOUS. I mean there are a lotta anime out
there
>> >that draw women with big breasts, but this one really goes that extra
bra
>> >size...
>
>> Is this a problem?

>In this particular instance, yes.

I guess it depends on your tastes. I've yet to see BUW, so won't judge the
series, yet.

Damien Roc
has a really cool poster of it on his wall, though

DamienRoc

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>>Besides, a problem with some fan-service seems (to me, at least) to be a
>>really stupid reason for NOT watching FY. It's got so much more than
that
>>to it.

>A few days ago I got in 37-44. Lot's and lot's of hard-core female
>fan-service.

That's quite a ways off for me, then.

>Hey...what are YOU doing watching subs?

Yes.

>FY is an example of an anime you'll never see dubbed. Definitely to

>long (can we tie that in with the dub-liker's attention span?) That's
>a good thing for some anime that would be an insult to dub, like LoGH.

Last I checked ADV already had the rights and plans to start releasing by
the end of the year. And, judging from their current policy, it'll be both
subbed and dubbed.

As to dub-liker's attention spans... Ranma seems fairly popular, and It's
had well over 50 episodes DUBBED.

Damien Roc
plans to get FY when it comes out commercially

Arnold Kim

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On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Shrumster wrote:

> How about the gratitous Shinji shots in EVA?

Wouldn't call that fan service. Shinji's not exactly a huge stud.

Arnold Kim

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On 17 Jun 1997, Chris Schack wrote:

> In article <33a74faa...@news1.channel1.com>,
> mi...@user1.NO_SPAM.com (Mike Breen) wrote:
> >On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:57:15 GMT, mad...@achilles.net (Mark David)
> >wrote:

> >>FY is an example of an anime you'll never see dubbed. Definitely to
> >>long (can we tie that in with the dub-liker's attention span?)
> >

> >I've come to the conclusion that Super Moron goes out of his way to be
> >an asshole, and enjoys it. I don't think I've seen one message from
> >him that dosen't offend _someone_.
> >
> >---Mike
>
> I saw one that didn't seem so bad. Mind you, it was only one line,
> and I was expecting something truly nasty.

That doesn't say much about a guy's personality and character if people
are pointing out _sigle_ posts where that guy isn't being offensive. ^_^

Donny CHAN

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In article <19970616033...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, dami...@aol.com
(DamienRoc) wrote:
]What happened in ep. 8? I can't remember.

Correction: I watched up to Ep 10 of FY, when Miaka-chan re-entered the
phantasy world and met Nakago. (Balls to him!)

]Besides, a problem with some fan-service seems (to me, at least) to be a


]really stupid reason for NOT watching FY. It's got so much more than that
]to it.

The primary reason wasn't the fan service. The primary reason was: while I
certainly appreciated the performance of the writers, animators, musicians,
and seiyuu (after all, Touma Yumi is one of my favourite seiyuu, though my
most favourite (female) seiyuu is, as evident in my sig, Tsuru Hiromi), FY
wasn't "my type of story." Too, I liked the artwork and BGMs in Hanayori
Dango, but I lost interest in its story after Ep 8. OTOH, it's more probable
that I'll watch more Hanayori Dango than FY. I may begin to regret I didn't
watch more Rayearth when I could.

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Donny CHAN

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*OFF-TOPIC ALERT*

In article
<Pine.SOL.3.95.97061...@choplifter.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Arnold
Kim <arn...@umich.edu> wrote:
]> never watched any Slam Dunk. Used to watch Captain Tsubasa though.
]
]I've seen about half the entire Slam Dunk TV series. Didn't really see


]anything I could perceive as fan service.

It's just that I'm not interested in basketball and basketball anime either.

Mark David

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Arnold Kim <arn...@umich.edu> wrote:

>That doesn't say much about a guy's personality and character if people
>are pointing out _sigle_ posts where that guy isn't being offensive. ^_^

The vast majority of posts I make are not offensive towards anyone.
It's just seems that way since the only threads usually worth
responding too in RAAM require people to take sides on an issue. And
as far as that goes, I have never called anyone a 'moron' or issued
any other plain slur. The worst I can be accused of is indirect
attacks on attention spans and reading abilities.

And I like to think of it as not being offensive but rather having
character :)

DamienRoc

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>That doesn't say much about a guy's personality and character if people
>>are pointing out _sigle_ posts where that guy isn't being offensive. ^_^

>The vast majority of posts I make are not offensive towards anyone.
>It's just seems that way since the only threads usually worth
>responding too in RAAM require people to take sides on an issue. And
>as far as that goes, I have never called anyone a 'moron' or issued
>any other plain slur. The worst I can be accused of is indirect
>attacks on attention spans and reading abilities.

Mark, none of your attacks are "indirect" and calling someone "dyslexic"
is very much a slur. Against the person and dyslexics.

And there's no problem with taking sides... But if you are going to attack
a viewpoint, attack a viewpoint, not the person who has that viewpoint.
Also, you need to understand that different people have different tastes.
Not everyone likes things as Mark David does.

>And I like to think of it as not being offensive but rather having
>character :)

Sure. Character can be defined as personality. Which does not need to
offend anyone. I'm sorry you seem to think so.

Damien Roc
jumping around

Michael Borgwardt

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In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.97061...@qix.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Arnold Kim <arn...@umich.edu> writes:
|> On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Shrumster wrote:
|>
|> > How about the gratitous Shinji shots in EVA?
|>
|> Wouldn't call that fan service. Shinji's not exactly a huge stud.

Well, AFAIK Japanese girls care for bishounen just as much if not more than for
studs... I heard in a Newtype survey Shinji did pretty well.

--
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Monica/Akira-chan!

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borg...@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Michael Borgwardt) wrote:
>In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.97061...@qix.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Arnold Kim <arn...@umich.edu> writes:
>|> On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Shrumster wrote:
>|>
>|> > How about the gratitous Shinji shots in EVA?
>|>
>|> Wouldn't call that fan service. Shinji's not exactly a huge stud.

>Well, AFAIK Japanese girls care for bishounen just as much if not more than for
>studs... I heard in a Newtype survey Shinji did pretty well.

Shinji... is not quite fan service material ^_^
More like the GWing boys, or maybe that shower seen in Gatchaman
'94... that's nice ^^

Monica
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Isaac Kuo

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In article <5o83qb$f...@sunsystem5.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>,
Michael Borgwardt <borg...@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> wrote:

>|> Wouldn't call that fan service. Shinji's not exactly a huge stud.

>Well, AFAIK Japanese girls care for bishounen just as much if not more than for
>studs... I heard in a Newtype survey Shinji did pretty well.

Newtype's readership is mostly male science fiction anime fans. Those
who respond to the monthly poll even more so. Therefore, even the
Gundam X characters did quite well despite the show crashing into
early retirement in the ratings.

Shinji is not a bishounen. Mitsuru and Shinobu are bishounen.
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Mark David

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mon...@pipeline.com (Monica/Akira-chan!) wrote:

>Shinji... is not quite fan service material ^_^
>More like the GWing boys, or maybe that shower seen in Gatchaman
>'94... that's nice ^^

How about some good beshounen fan-service? I always wondered how
female fans felt about that sort of thig.

Spoilers for FY #44!! (It's been ROT13'd for your saftey)

Yvxr Anxntb xvffvat Gnznubzr sbe vafgnapr :)

Rumor

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A sound was heard, drifting upon the winds, that nestled in my furred,
wolven ears. Arnold Kim <arn...@umich.edu> had spoken such sounds, and
what I perceived of them was thus:

>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Shrumster wrote:

>> How about the gratitous Shinji shots in EVA?

>Wouldn't call that fan service. Shinji's not exactly a huge stud.
_Someone's_ gotta find him cute. ^_^ Or cool. Gratuitous shots of a
cool guy will work (doesn't always have to be sex, I say). Maybe
somebody should run Shinji through Scott's test. ^_^

-- Rumor
(who prefers the Tendou sisters, TYVM, but is a devil's advocate)

Donny CHAN

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In article <33ab46bc...@news.achilles.net>, mad...@achilles.net (Mark
David) wrote:

]mon...@pipeline.com (Monica/Akira-chan!) wrote:
]>Shinji... is not quite fan service material ^_^
]>More like the GWing boys, or maybe that shower seen in Gatchaman
]>'94... that's nice ^^
]
]How about some good beshounen fan-service? I always wondered how
]female fans felt about that sort of thig.

Koko wa Greenwood? Saint Seiya? ^^;

]Spoilers for FY #44!! (It's been ROT13'd for your saftey)


]
]Yvxr Anxntb xvffvat Gnznubzr sbe vafgnapr :)

No comment desu. 9_9

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paradoxymoron

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dami...@aol.com (DamienRoc) wrote:

>>> >Burn up W is just RIDICULOUS. I mean there are a lotta anime out
>there
>>> >that draw women with big breasts, but this one really goes that extra
>bra
>>> >size...
>>
>>> Is this a problem?

>>In this particular instance, yes.

>I guess it depends on your tastes. I've yet to see BUW, so won't judge the
>series, yet.

>Damien Roc
>has a really cool poster of it on his wall, though

>Damien R...@aol.com
>Quasi-Affirmative Anime Dust Bucket:
> http://www.eskimo.com/~tetsuya/jeff/home.htm
>.sig stolen by Anne Packrat, will replace ASAP
>sorry for the inconvenience
>Umi is Cute, beautiful, and really cool
>Ukyou kicks @$$
>Anne hits me a lot

Hey, doesn't Burn Up W have that onescene where they/pay homage/rip
off/ Evangalion?
They even had a cross shaped cloud of dust.

Arnold Kim

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On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Mark David wrote:

> Arnold Kim <arn...@umich.edu> wrote:
>
> >That doesn't say much about a guy's personality and character if people
> >are pointing out _sigle_ posts where that guy isn't being offensive. ^_^
>
> The vast majority of posts I make are not offensive towards anyone.
> It's just seems that way since the only threads usually worth
> responding too in RAAM require people to take sides on an issue. And
> as far as that goes, I have never called anyone a 'moron' or issued
> any other plain slur. The worst I can be accused of is indirect
> attacks on attention spans and reading abilities.

Don't forget judging others and not listening to valid argument, too.

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