[CON] Hentai Con announced!
Brad Jackson
expanding number of Hentai fans, including a startling number of women, it
was just inevitable that a Hentai Con would be arriving.
The Hentai Con is currently in the planning stages, to see the FAQ, or
offer assistance visit the web site, http://www.hentaicon.homestead.com
Right now the website is pretty rough, and as you've noticed we don't
even have our own domain name yet. That's because we are in the early
planning stages, if you have any input, write us and tell us.
Anyone is welcome to visit the website (no adult content there), and
anyone over the age of 18 is welcome to attend the con, if you are under
eighteen, we're sorry, we don't like the law, and we still won't let you
in.
If anyone wants to help out, please send us some mail.
Any flames and/or death threats will be laughed at, and then posted to
the Hentai Con web site so that everyone else can laugh at them too. You
have been warned. No one's email address will be published unless they
specifically ask me to.
Brad Jackson, coordinator for Hentai Con
H Y Lee
(I live outside of US, unfortunately), I hope to see this con succeed!
We've got YaoiCon.. and now HentaiCon.. maybe someday there will be a
YuriCon too. Wow.. this is great ^_^
regards,
serena
Touga no Miko chooses Cake
.....
Oi. At least it isn't NAMBLACoN.
*shudder*
Sorry. Just watched that ep of South Park^^
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AntEGM111
>>YuriCon too. Wow.. this is great ^_^
>
>.....
>
>
>Oi. At least it isn't NAMBLACoN.
>
>*shudder*
>
>
>Sorry. Just watched that ep of South Park^^
>
You mean a:
North
American
Marlon
Brando
Look
Alike
Convention? . . . (I saw it too!)^_^
Susan Davis
>
> We've got YaoiCon.. and now HentaiCon.. maybe someday there will be a
> YuriCon too. Wow.. this is great ^_^
You mean AniLesboCon? One of the organizers was in here (and swlab,
and a number of other groups) a couple of months ago with an
announcement.
I didn't manage to save the URL, because I have a conflict that weekend,
but it's happening.
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paranormalized
wrote:
>H Y Lee wrote:
>>
>> We've got YaoiCon.. and now HentaiCon.. maybe someday there will be a
>> YuriCon too. Wow.. this is great ^_^
>
>You mean AniLesboCon? One of the organizers was in here (and swlab,
>and a number of other groups) a couple of months ago with an
>announcement.
>I didn't manage to save the URL, because I have a conflict that weekend,
>but it's happening.
>
Umm, no, it's not really happening. AniLesboCon is just a website for
now, with vague 'maybe someday' plans, IIRC. And the URL is
"http://www.shoujoai.com/~anilesbocon"
Anyways, hope that clears up things. Yeah, I thought the Yuri con
thing was happening too. It's a misleading webpage/announcement,
IMNSHO.
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Brad Jackson
>Finally, something for Hentai fans ^_^ Though I won't be able to make it
>(I live outside of US, unfortunately), I hope to see this con succeed!
Well, I hope it will succeed too (since I started it). The only real
question is: do enough people want a Hentai Con to happen? I'd say the chances
are pretty good, the Yaoi Con has had enough positive responses that they had
to put a cap on the number of attendees, and I'm fairly sure that there aren't
as many Yaoi fans as there are Hentai fans (I may be wrong though, that'd be
fun poll, neh?).
David Watson
>>> We've got YaoiCon.. and now HentaiCon.. maybe someday there will be a
>>> YuriCon too. Wow.. this is great ^_^
Repost details, please? I'm definitely interested, even if I can't make
it there myself. d;)
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H Y Lee
> Umm, no, it's not really happening. AniLesboCon is just a website for
> now, with vague 'maybe someday' plans, IIRC. And the URL is
> "http://www.shoujoai.com/~anilesbocon"
>
> Anyways, hope that clears up things. Yeah, I thought the Yuri con
> thing was happening too. It's a misleading webpage/announcement,
> IMNSHO.
Oh... *sigh*.. YaoiCon is happening, and I'm hoping to see more of these
kinds of cons coming up soon. The GLBT community would love that.. Yuri
definitely needs more positive exposure ^_^
Although I won't be able to make it to Yaoicon.. just knowing that it's
running is enough to keep me happy ^_^
regards,
serena
H Y Lee
> Repost details, please? I'm definitely interested, even if I can't make
> it there myself. d;)
http://www.hentaicon.homestead.com/ for HentaiCon
http://www.yaoicon.com for YaoiCon
I'm not sure about the AniLesbo Con though..
regards,
serena
H Y Lee
> Well, I hope it will succeed too (since I started it). The only real
> question is: do enough people want a Hentai Con to happen? I'd say the chances
> are pretty good, the Yaoi Con has had enough positive responses that they had
> to put a cap on the number of attendees, and I'm fairly sure that there aren't
> as many Yaoi fans as there are Hentai fans (I may be wrong though, that'd be
> fun poll, neh?).
>
> Brad Jackson, coordinator for Hentai Con
I wish I could help.. but the only things that I know about cons, are
from the various announcements/ml on Shoujocon and Yaoicon. The fans are
out there -- you need to gather them up and spread the word ^_^
Aestheticism and others did a good job in promoting Yaoicon.. I'm sure
there will be a better and wider response for HentaiCon, since I'd
assume that there are __more__ hentai fans around ^_^ Good luck!
regards,
serena
sanjian
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> HY Lee wrote:
>
> >Finally, something for Hentai fans ^_^ Though I won't be able to make it
> >(I live outside of US, unfortunately), I hope to see this con succeed!
> >
> >We've got YaoiCon.. and now HentaiCon.. maybe someday there will be a
> >YuriCon too. Wow.. this is great ^_^
I wonder... after all the guys find out how few women will probably show up,
will it become a different meaning to YaoiCon?
> .....
>
>
> Oi. At least it isn't NAMBLACoN.
No, no, that's ShotaCon
Others:
Clamp Convention: eX-con.
Japanese Language Convention: Lexi-con.
Mongolian Convention: GhengisCon
Monarch's Meeting: KingCon
ShotaCon's female counterpart: LoliCon
Magical Girl's Convention: AiCon
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H Y Lee
> I wonder... after all the guys find out how few women will probably show up,
> will it become a different meaning to YaoiCon?
I think (and hope) there will be _a lot_ of ppl showing up in YaoiCon.
They're even limiting the number of attendees to the Con as a
precaution. I'm not sure what events have been lined up for Yaoicon, but
just seeing the list of guest artists that are coming.. I could **cry**
now - Higuri You and Kurokawa Azusa are two of my favourite mangakas
;_______; What I'd do to even shake their hands and thank them for the
wonderful mangas they've drawn......!
As for HentaiCon, I'm not sure how the attendance will be affected by
gender, although I'd assume more guys would turn up ^_^
I don't speak for Yaoicon, but imho, it doesn't matter whether a guy or
a girl turns up in the con -- the purpose of the con remains - it's for
Yaoi ^_^ It doesn't matter if a guy pops in and buys up a few yaoi
mangas and videos, since we all know that MALE yaoi fans do exist - and
there's a growing number of them too! ^_^ Likewise, there shouldn't be
any problems if a girl comes to the HentaiCon.. if she's fan of hentai,
she has every right to walk in, browse around, and have fun! ^_^
> No, no, that's ShotaCon
'Shota-con Con' would sound correct, albeit rather strange ^_^
regards,
serena
Brad Jackson
>
>Others:
>
>Clamp Convention: eX-con.
>Japanese Language Convention: Lexi-con.
>Mongolian Convention: GhengisCon
>Monarch's Meeting: KingCon
>ShotaCon's female counterpart: LoliCon
>Magical Girl's Convention: AiCon
Ugh, did you invent those or are you quoting someone? Kami but those were
awful!
Brad Jackson
>assume that there are __more__ hentai fans around ^_^ Good luck!
Probably. Yaoi is popular, but so is Hentai. Basically, let's face
it, we're all human and humans like porn. While I think its pretty likely
that the majority of the attendees at Hentai Con will be men, I think it
would be wrong to assume that no women would show up. Anyway, the site has
gotten nearly two hundred hits in the less than 24 hours its been up, and I
haven't gotten any exposure other than mentioning it on these newsgroups.
I think that indicates a definate interest :)
Brad Jackson, coordinator for Hentai Con
Brad Jackson
>
>Repost details, please? I'm definitely interested, even if I can't make
>it there myself. d;)
Unfortunately YuriCon, like Hentai Con is vaporware at the moment.
Paranormalized gave this url http://www.shoujoai.com/~anilesbocon for it. I
haven't visited yet myself.
--
Brad Jackson, coordinator for Hentai Con
H Y Lee
> Probably. Yaoi is popular, but so is Hentai. Basically, let's face
> it, we're all human and humans like porn.
Agreed! *grins*
>While I think its pretty likely
> that the majority of the attendees at Hentai Con will be men, I think it
> would be wrong to assume that no women would show up. Anyway, the site has
> gotten nearly two hundred hits in the less than 24 hours its been up, and I
> haven't gotten any exposure other than mentioning it on these newsgroups.
> I think that indicates a definate interest :)
That's great news ^_^ All the best!
regards,
serena
Susan Davis
>
> Umm, no, it's not really happening. AniLesboCon is just a website for
> now, with vague 'maybe someday' plans, IIRC.
*blink* *blink* Why did I think that they'd picked a weekend, and that
I'd had a conflict on that weekend? Oh well, if they do ever hold it,
perhaps now it'll actually be at a time that I can attend.
sanjian
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> >No, no, that's ShotaCon
> >
> >Others:
> >
> >Clamp Convention: eX-con.
> >Japanese Language Convention: Lexi-con.
> >Mongolian Convention: GhengisCon
> >Monarch's Meeting: KingCon
> >ShotaCon's female counterpart: LoliCon
> >Magical Girl's Convention: AiCon
>
> Ugh, did you invent those or are you quoting someone? Kami but those
were
> awful!
I'll take that as a compliment. I just hope this stayed below Aaron's
radar. I'd hate to see the list he would cook up.
sanjian
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> sanjian wrote:
> > I wonder... after all the guys find out how few women will probably show
up,
> > will it become a different meaning to YaoiCon?
>
> I think (and hope) there will be _a lot_ of ppl showing up in YaoiCon.
> They're even limiting the number of attendees to the Con as a
> precaution. I'm not sure what events have been lined up for Yaoicon, but
> just seeing the list of guest artists that are coming.. I could **cry**
> now - Higuri You and Kurokawa Azusa are two of my favourite mangakas
> ;_______; What I'd do to even shake their hands and thank them for the
> wonderful mangas they've drawn......!
I've met some dang good Yaoi artists in artist's alley in past cons.
Personally, though, I'm not a fan. It's just that some of them have mad
skillz that put me to shame ;_; Dang you, Studio Estrigous!
> As for HentaiCon, I'm not sure how the attendance will be affected by
> gender, although I'd assume more guys would turn up ^_^
>
> I don't speak for Yaoicon, but imho, it doesn't matter whether a guy or
> a girl turns up in the con -- the purpose of the con remains - it's for
> Yaoi ^_^ It doesn't matter if a guy pops in and buys up a few yaoi
> mangas and videos, since we all know that MALE yaoi fans do exist - and
> there's a growing number of them too! ^_^ Likewise, there shouldn't be
> any problems if a girl comes to the HentaiCon.. if she's fan of hentai,
> she has every right to walk in, browse around, and have fun! ^_^
I would think that even the most eitchi woman would be uncomfortable in a
situation like that. It seems to lend itself to a continuous barrage of
unwanted come-ons. Though I may be quite wrong, about the women, and about
the con.
> > No, no, that's ShotaCon
>
> 'Shota-con Con' would sound correct, albeit rather strange ^_^
And wouldn't get the flow for the pun quite right.
wonkycyber The Dark Revolutionist
>YuriCon too. Wow.. this is great ^_^
Do you mean... AniLesbocon? ^_^ http://www.shoujoai.com/~anilesbocon/
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> H Y Lee wrote:
> >
> > We've got YaoiCon.. and now HentaiCon.. maybe someday there will be a
> > YuriCon too. Wow.. this is great ^_^
>
> You mean AniLesboCon? One of the organizers was in here (and swlab,
> and a number of other groups) a couple of months ago with an
> announcement.
> I didn't manage to save the URL, because I have a conflict that weekend,
> but it's happening.
http://www.shoujoai.com/~anilesbocon
Because I like to be helpful. :-)
>
> Susan Davis <sued...@avaya.com>
> Avaya Corporate Email Backbone
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Thanks for the lead-in... ;-)
We're working on it - visit AniLesboCon - the web's first con to celebrate
shouoai and anime! Right now, we're a little small to have a con of our own
- but we'll have a presence at Shoujocon in July and who knows? Maybe we'll
be meeting at our our "Le Ramada Inn" some day soon. :-)
http://www.shoujoai.com/~anilesbocon
Erica Friedman
> Umm, no, it's not really happening. AniLesboCon is just a website for
> now, with vague 'maybe someday' plans, IIRC. And the URL is
> "http://www.shoujoai.com/~anilesbocon"
>
> Anyways, hope that clears up things. Yeah, I thought the Yuri con
> thing was happening too. It's a misleading webpage/announcement,
> IMNSHO.
Why misleading? We'd love to have a con one day. Right now we're building up
a base of interested parties. It takes alot of time and committement (and
money) to run a con. If you want to see ALC happen - we'd love to have your
help!
H Y Lee
> We're working on it - visit AniLesboCon - the web's first con to celebrate
> shouoai and anime! Right now, we're a little small to have a con of our own
> - but we'll have a presence at Shoujocon in July and who knows? Maybe we'll
> be meeting at our our "Le Ramada Inn" some day soon. :-)
Wow ^_^
Good luck!! You might want to get in touch with interested parties,
mailinglists and communities, and announce your presence too ^_^
regards,
serena
yayy, finally, some yuri!
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is Hentai Con being held. If this is held in a hotel, I am surprised
they would allow you to show "essentially pornography" 24 hours
a day in several of their publicly accessible rooms. I am guessing
you will have lots of titles in Japanese since there aren't that many
translated into English.
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David Watson
> For some reason, I can't access the website. When and where
> is Hentai Con being held. If this is held in a hotel, I am surprised
> they would allow you to show "essentially pornography" 24 hours
> a day in several of their publicly accessible rooms. I am guessing
> you will have lots of titles in Japanese since there aren't that many
> translated into English.
I don't want to get into a rant here, but...oh, bullshit, yes, I do! dB)
Some things just have to be said, you know?
There's a lot being translated into English nowadays. Sadly, most of it
is dub-only now (fuck you very much, CPM and Kitty Media). Sheesh. If
only I knew someone in the area who was fully J/E bilingual and not
squeamish about certain types of anime, I wouldn't mind fansubbing the
first five episodes of Doukyuusei 2 that I have on LD (with plans to get
the rest at some point, of course). *There's* a series that deserves to
be seen more here, and the legit companies don't seem to give a shit (even
though End of Summer apparently was quite successful). Would certainly be
better for the soul of anime than yet another violent piece of tentacle
shit.
H Y Lee
>
> For some reason, I can't access the website. When and where
> is Hentai Con being held. If this is held in a hotel, I am surprised
> they would allow you to show "essentially pornography" 24 hours
> a day in several of their publicly accessible rooms. I am guessing
> you will have lots of titles in Japanese since there aren't that many
> translated into English.
Hmm.. if YaoiCon could get a venue in a hotel, I don't see why HentaiCon
wouldn't be able to.. o.0;; I mean, as long as the attendees stick to
the hotel rules, don't make a ruckus, don't disturb the other guests,
and conduct their business in a proper manner.. nothing bad should
happen, ne? Also, it may not necessarily be 'publicly accessible'.. I've
seen some cons (yes, I've never attended one, sad to say) selling
tickets which along the process, would be able to verify the age of the
attendee.. kinda restrictive, but it works -- I hope. Anyhow, good luck
on the con!
regards,
serena
.. thinking too far ahead -_-;;
H Y Lee
> There's a lot being translated into English nowadays. Sadly, most of it
> is dub-only now (fuck you very much, CPM and Kitty Media). Sheesh. If
> only I knew someone in the area who was fully J/E bilingual and not
> squeamish about certain types of anime, I wouldn't mind fansubbing the
> first five episodes of Doukyuusei 2 that I have on LD (with plans to get
> the rest at some point, of course). *There's* a series that deserves to
> be seen more here, and the legit companies don't seem to give a shit (even
> though End of Summer apparently was quite successful). Would certainly be
> better for the soul of anime than yet another violent piece of tentacle
> shit.
Maybe if you asked around in other ng, mailinglists, etc.. ? Sorry, I
wish I could help, but my field is limited to Yaoi.. I heard of some ppl
who are fansubbing yaoi titles, but that's about it. I don't know about
hentai fansubbers though .. gomen.
regards,
serena
Brad Jackson
>shouoai and anime! Right now, we're a little small to have a con of our
own
>- but we'll have a presence at Shoujocon in July and who knows? Maybe
we'll
>be meeting at our our "Le Ramada Inn" some day soon. :-)
Good luck, I think the world needs an AniLesoboCon at least as much as
it needs a YaoiCon or a HentaiCon.
Actually, that brings up one of those perennial questions: which
characters are lesbians, and which are suffering from hero worship? I'm
thinking specifically about Gunbuster, and I never could figure out
wheather Noriko wanted into her "big sister's" pants, or if she just had a
bad case of hero worship? Its fairly obvious that Akane (from KOR, not
Ranma 1/2) was a lesbian, but some of the other characters leave it up in
the air.
I hope the AniLesboCon manages to take off one day.
--
Brad Jackson
>is Hentai Con being held. If this is held in a hotel, I am surprised
>they would allow you to show "essentially pornography" 24 hours
>a day in several of their publicly accessible rooms. I am guessing
>you will have lots of titles in Japanese since there aren't that many
>translated into English.
At the moment HentaiCon is vaporware. Honestly, I don't think we'll have
a problem finding a hotel, as with any other con the dealers and video rooms
will be for con members only. I'm thinking that while the video rooms will be
mostly showing Hentai stuff, there ought to be a couple of hours of non-Hentai
(in the style of A-Kon's "Hentai Hours" only backwards). After all, nonstop
Hentai would probably wear thin after a while and you'd want to see an anime
where the characters *don't* have sex every few minutes.
Since the con is vaporware we don't have a when or where set yet. I'm
hoping to get enough interest generated to do it in late 2001 or early 2002.
As for where, probably somewhere near Oklahoma City OK, Dallas TX, or Denver
CO. Maybe even in Amarillo TX. Somewhere in the central US, not on either
coast at any rate.
Non-translated Hentai will be there, but you'd be surprised at how much
Hentai is being translated (there is a BIG fanbase for hentai). Also, of
course, any fan parodies are welcome.
As for your inability to access the site, what browser are you using?
I've managed to see the site with IE, Netscape, and Mozilla (though it doesn't
look too good with Mozilla). I definately want the site to be visible to
everyone, and if you're having problems that probably means other people are
too.
--
Brad Jackson
>is dub-only now (fuck you very much, CPM and Kitty Media). Sheesh. If
>only I knew someone in the area who was fully J/E bilingual and not
>squeamish about certain types of anime, I wouldn't mind fansubbing the
>first five episodes of Doukyuusei 2 that I have on LD (with plans to get
>the rest at some point, of course). *There's* a series that deserves to
>be seen more here, and the legit companies don't seem to give a shit (even
>though End of Summer apparently was quite successful). Would certainly be
>better for the soul of anime than yet another violent piece of tentacle
>shit.
Yeah, the romantic style Hentai that is being imported is seriously
lagging behind the "tentacles rape a woman who then explodes" style. Not
that I'm militantly opposed to the tentacle rape Hentai, but it isn't my
favorite by a long shot. I thought End of Summer was wonderful, and for
humor how can you go wrong with U-Jin Brand? ("This STORM OF CHERRY
BLOSSEMS saw everything!!!")
As for the dubs only companies, I hope they all get sent to the Hell
of Horney Dragons (sorry, I just watched "Big Trouble in Little China"). I
hope that at least when they start putting the Hentai on DVD they add a
subtitled option (it isn't like it costs that much).
If the Hentai con goes off I would imagine that Kitty would send a rep
by, so you might have the opportunity to complain in person :)
--
Brad Jackson
>hentai fansubbers though .. gomen.
I haven't heard about any Hentai fansubbers myself, but I haven't been
looking, until you mentioned it. That might be one of the best things to
come out of the HentaiCon: a group of Hentai fansubbers.
<stiffass business type accent>
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>wouldn't be able to.. o.0;;
I hope that you are right.
>I mean, as long as the attendees stick to
>the hotel rules, don't make a ruckus, don't disturb the other guests,
>and conduct their business in a proper manner.. nothing bad should
>happen, ne?
Damn skippy. The HentaiCon security is gonna be just as strict about that
sort of thing as security is at any other con.
Also, it may not necessarily be 'publicly accessible'.. I've
>seen some cons (yes, I've never attended one, sad to say) selling
>tickets which along the process, would be able to verify the age of the
>attendee.. kinda restrictive
Most cons don't let anyone into any of the con areas unless they have a
badge, and I think that'd work for the HentaiCon too. You don't get a badge
unless you show proof of age, and you don't get anywhere near the video rooms
without a badge.
How is YaoiCon handling this?
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H Y Lee
> I hope the AniLesboCon manages to take off one day.
I hope so too ^_^ I'm sure friends in the GLBTanimefans eGroups or in
some yahooclubs would be glad to hear that!
regards,
serena
H Y Lee
> At the moment HentaiCon is vaporware. Honestly, I don't think we'll have
> a problem finding a hotel, as with any other con the dealers and video rooms
> will be for con members only. I'm thinking that while the video rooms will be
> mostly showing Hentai stuff, there ought to be a couple of hours of non-Hentai
> (in the style of A-Kon's "Hentai Hours" only backwards). After all, nonstop
> Hentai would probably wear thin after a while and you'd want to see an anime
> where the characters *don't* have sex every few minutes.
*grins*
There's more to hentai than 24 hours of sex on the big screen ^_^
> Non-translated Hentai will be there, but you'd be surprised at how much
> Hentai is being translated (there is a BIG fanbase for hentai). Also, of
> course, any fan parodies are welcome.
Fans will love that! ^_^ I'd love to see fans being able to produce and
display their works e.g. music videos, fanarts, stageshows, et cetera..
regards,
serena
H Y Lee
> I haven't heard about any Hentai fansubbers myself, but I haven't been
> looking, until you mentioned it. That might be one of the best things to
> come out of the HentaiCon: a group of Hentai fansubbers.
That might just work ^_^ I have the impression that there are quite a
number of hentai fans who are elites in electronics, technical issues,
distro, fansubbing (maybe?) and other aspects of producing/distributing
anime. Like you said, maybe a network could be set up and hentai fans
need not put up with raw videos, insanely expensive hentai titles or
poor-quality shows anymore ^_^
regards,
serena
H Y Lee
> Damn skippy. The HentaiCon security is gonna be just as strict about that
> sort of thing as security is at any other con.
Agreed ^_^
> Most cons don't let anyone into any of the con areas unless they have a
> badge, and I think that'd work for the HentaiCon too. You don't get a badge
> unless you show proof of age, and you don't get anywhere near the video rooms
> without a badge.
> How is YaoiCon handling this?
I'm not sure, since I'm not involved in Yaoicon (well.. except for
buying up their stuff and helping them to raise funds *grins*). You
might want to check out their website for some general and legal
information on handling the 'sensitive and adult' stuff ^_^ :
Hope that helps.
regards,
serena
sanjian
> >We're working on it - visit AniLesboCon - the web's first con to
celebrate
> >shouoai and anime! Right now, we're a little small to have a con of our
> own
> >- but we'll have a presence at Shoujocon in July and who knows? Maybe
> we'll
> >be meeting at our our "Le Ramada Inn" some day soon. :-)
>
> Good luck, I think the world needs an AniLesoboCon at least as much as
> it needs a YaoiCon or a HentaiCon.
> Actually, that brings up one of those perennial questions: which
> characters are lesbians, and which are suffering from hero worship? I'm
> thinking specifically about Gunbuster, and I never could figure out
> wheather Noriko wanted into her "big sister's" pants, or if she just had a
> bad case of hero worship? Its fairly obvious that Akane (from KOR, not
> Ranma 1/2) was a lesbian, but some of the other characters leave it up in
> the air.
Actually, in the manga it was just hero worship. Of course, in the manga,
there was on Jingoro, either. As far as Gunbusters goes, I don't see any
real evidence for lesbianisim, just Gainax having some fun with innuendo
(big suprise, there).
sanjian
> Brad Jackson wrote:
> > Non-translated Hentai will be there, but you'd be surprised at
how much
> > Hentai is being translated (there is a BIG fanbase for hentai). Also,
of
> > course, any fan parodies are welcome.
>
> Fans will love that! ^_^ I'd love to see fans being able to produce and
> display their works e.g. music videos, fanarts, stageshows, et cetera..
<waiting for the cosplay> ^^;;;;;
H Y Lee
> > Fans will love that! ^_^ I'd love to see fans being able to produce and
> > display their works e.g. music videos, fanarts, stageshows, et cetera..
>
> <waiting for the cosplay> ^^;;;;;
Don't know if girls would want to dress up as their female idols in
h-anime.. though the costumes from La Blue Girl (or was it the sequel?)
looks quite nice ^_^
I'd hope to hear about ladies dressing up as their fav bishounens and
trying to seduce one other in YaoiCon.. *grins* That would be so fun..
*LOL*
regards,
serena,
would like to be an uke Treize. Now to look for Zechs .. ~_^
((height-rule applies))
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
> >We're working on it - visit AniLesboCon - the web's first con to celebrate
> >shouoai and anime! Right now, we're a little small to have a con of our
> own
> >- but we'll have a presence at Shoujocon in July and who knows? Maybe
> we'll
> >be meeting at our our "Le Ramada Inn" some day soon. :-)
>
> Good luck, I think the world needs an AniLesoboCon at least as much as
> it needs a YaoiCon or a HentaiCon.
>
Why not combine the 3 into one large orgy con
occupying distinct sections of the building?
Also, BYOT (Bring Your Own Togas). ^_^
Laters. =)
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>
> At the moment HentaiCon is vaporware. Honestly, I don't think we'll have
> a problem finding a hotel, as with any other con the dealers and video rooms
> will be for con members only. I'm thinking that while the video rooms will be
> mostly showing Hentai stuff, there ought to be a couple of hours of non-Hentai
> (in the style of A-Kon's "Hentai Hours" only backwards). After all, nonstop
> Hentai would probably wear thin after a while and you'd want to see an anime
> where the characters *don't* have sex every few minutes.
> Since the con is vaporware we don't have a when or where set yet. I'm
> hoping to get enough interest generated to do it in late 2001 or early 2002.
> As for where, probably somewhere near Oklahoma City OK, Dallas TX, or Denver
> CO. Maybe even in Amarillo TX. Somewhere in the central US, not on either
> coast at any rate.
>
Heh, porn in the American conservative heartland. ^_^
Just remember where the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund's
recent battles were and where a comic shop was chased out
by the townsfolk for selling indecent material.
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
Well, h-fansubbers may actually get some stuff done
if they're not spanking the clown every few minutes. ^_^
Laters. =)
STan
H Y Lee
> Why not combine the 3 into one large orgy con
> occupying distinct sections of the building?
> Also, BYOT (Bring Your Own Togas). ^_^
>
> Laters. =)
Who knows, maybe someday these cons can be combined.. o.0;;
But until then, I suppose yaoi fans prefer to be within their own
circle, where they're safe among their kind ^_^
btw, Yaoi isn't all orgy and sex.. it's a different way of appreciating
things ^_^
regards,
serena
H Y Lee
> Heh, porn in the American conservative heartland. ^_^
> Just remember where the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund's
> recent battles were and where a comic shop was chased out
> by the townsfolk for selling indecent material.
Unfortunately, I can only speak about yaoi and Yaoicon.. but many ppl
see yaoi as gay porn, and yet there's a Con for it coming up ^_^ It's a
small step for the yaoi genre, but certainly a very important one. I
suppose if the attendees don't cause any trouble, then nothing bad would
happen.. *crosses her fingers*
I might not be in the US, but certainly Hentaicon has my support ^_^
regards
serena
H Y Lee
> Well, h-fansubbers may actually get some stuff done
> if they're not spanking the clown every few minutes. ^_^
There's quite a number of h-fansubs circulating in the Net.. would that
be some sort of proof that h-loving ppl are doing *something* instead of
that? ^_^
I know only a few hentai webmasters, but they're quite good in running
their sites ^_^
regards,
serena
Brad Jackson
>> course, any fan parodies are welcome.
>
>Fans will love that! ^_^ I'd love to see fans being able to produce and
>display their works e.g. music videos, fanarts, stageshows, et cetera..
I've always felt that the fan made stuff is one of the best parts of any
con. Especially the fandub paradoies. I remember laughing my ass off at "The
Dirty Pair vs Carl Macek" at the first A-Kon I ever attended.
Brad Jackson
Well, there's a question, will the cosplay at HentaiCon be worthwhile? I
still think that there will be several women showing up, but how many of them
would want to do an accurate Kekko Kamen costume? I'd bet not too many. Now,
mind you, I did see a non-accurate Kekko Kamen costume at a con once (she wore
a flesh colored bodysuit), but still...
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
> "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" wrote:
> > Heh, porn in the American conservative heartland. ^_^
> > Just remember where the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund's
> > recent battles were and where a comic shop was chased out
> > by the townsfolk for selling indecent material.
>
> Unfortunately, I can only speak about yaoi and Yaoicon.. but many ppl
> see yaoi as gay porn, and yet there's a Con for it coming up ^_^ It's a
> small step for the yaoi genre, but certainly a very important one. I
> suppose if the attendees don't cause any trouble, then nothing bad would
> happen.. *crosses her fingers*
>
I guess ya gotta know about the southern central US
(particularly Texas and Oklahoma) to really dig.... ^_^
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
> "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" wrote:
> > Well, h-fansubbers may actually get some stuff done
> > if they're not spanking the clown every few minutes. ^_^
>
> There's quite a number of h-fansubs circulating in the Net.. would that
> be some sort of proof that h-loving ppl are doing *something* instead of
> that? ^_^
>
But they're slow - they're using only 50% of their digits. ^_^
Laters. =)
Stan
H Y Lee
> > There's quite a number of h-fansubs circulating in the Net.. would that
> > be some sort of proof that h-loving ppl are doing *something* instead of
> > that? ^_^
> >
>
> But they're slow - they're using only 50% of their digits. ^_^
Slow but steady ^_^
I guess I'm lucky I can watch chinese-subbed h-anime too.. though I'm
not able to read everything at once, I could get the gist of the story
at the very least ~_^
regards,
serena
H Y Lee
>
> ><waiting for the cosplay> ^^;;;;;
>
> Well, there's a question, will the cosplay at HentaiCon be worthwhile? I
> still think that there will be several women showing up, but how many of them
> would want to do an accurate Kekko Kamen costume? I'd bet not too many. Now,
> mind you, I did see a non-accurate Kekko Kamen costume at a con once (she wore
> a flesh colored bodysuit), but still...
You could try having some sort of contest.. err.. winner gets a bag full
of hentai goodies.. or something like that ~_^
May the best cosplayer win ^_^
regards,
serena
paranormalized
<e.l.f.@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>paranormalized wrote:
>
>> Umm, no, it's not really happening. AniLesboCon is just a website for
>> now, with vague 'maybe someday' plans, IIRC. And the URL is
>> "http://www.shoujoai.com/~anilesbocon"
>>
>> Anyways, hope that clears up things. Yeah, I thought the Yuri con
>> thing was happening too. It's a misleading webpage/announcement,
>> IMNSHO.
>
>Why misleading? We'd love to have a con one day. Right now we're building up
>a base of interested parties. It takes alot of time and committement (and
>money) to run a con. If you want to see ALC happen - we'd love to have your
>help!
>
Hmm, depends on where the con may be, and when. I'd rather go to a
few regular anime cons before attending/helping out with something
like this. But, if it happens sometime in the next 10, after a year
or two, and anywhere in or near Northeast Kentucky, Middle Tennessee,
or Northern Alabama, I might pitch in. (those are places I have family
in...)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Erica
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>http://www.shoujoai.com/~anilesbocon
>
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>> Non-translated Hentai will be there, but you'd be surprised at how much
>>Hentai is being translated (there is a BIG fanbase for hentai). Also, of
>>course, any fan parodies are welcome.
> much of it is any good?)
A: Not enough.
B: Some is better than others, but the good stuff usually tends to be
excellent. Depends on your definitions of "good."
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H Y Lee
> How much non-tentacle, non-rape hentai is out there? (And I may add, how
> much of it is any good?)
I've watched some h-movies/series.. hentai doesn't have to be all sexual
violence and gore. There's a number of hentai that's actually romantic,
comedy, etc. It's unfortunate that the so-called 'plotless'
tentacle/rape hentai genre gets too much publicity, thanks to
Urotsukidoji, La Blue Girl and the likes.. -_-;; But some are quite
impressive, nevertheless.
My favourites include :
Elven Bride (imho, very original comedy!)
Cool Devices (#2, #7, #12 -- shed a few tears over the ending of #12)
Dragon Pink (one of the most unforgettable action/comedies I've ever
watched..)
Magical Twilight (kinky and very cute..)
New Angel (#4, #5 -- I'm a sucker for sappy romance stories.. so while
watching #4/5, guess who was crying while the couple was under the
bedsheets..-_-;;)
Tokyo Private Police (I've only seen the first 2 eps.. but I like it
already ^_^)
.. and a few more which I can't remember.. >.<;;
I would include Legend of Lyon, but unfortunately I'm not too keen on
its dated artstyle and too many mechas ^^;; Mind you, these are coming
from a Yaoi fan *grins*
Ah, I almost forgot.. Words' Worth!! One of the few h-anime that has
gorgeous bishounens and wonderful graphics and animation.. *_*
regards,
serena,
H Y Lee
> B: Some is better than others, but the good stuff usually tends to be
> excellent. Depends on your definitions of "good."
Words' Worth.. that's one of the best I know. I've only watched the
first few episodes.. looks like an exciting demon vs. human war-epic to
me (no, it's not all about sex.. DUH!). I'm totally in love with that
blonde bishounen that shows up once in a while.. he's just as good as
Zechs *_*
regards,
serena
Erica Friedman
>
> Wow ^_^
>
> Good luck!! You might want to get in touch with interested parties,
> mailinglists and communities, and announce your presence too ^_^
Have been doing so for a few months. :-)
Erica Friedman
> I hope the AniLesboCon manages to take off one day.
>
Thanks! A best of luck with your con, as well!
Erica Friedman
Then, by all means - tell 'em! LOL ALC is subscribed to a bunch of groups
- let us know any others that are out there at aniles...@hotmail.com
Thansk!
Erica Friedman
> Hmm, depends on where the con may be, and when. I'd rather go to a
> few regular anime cons before attending/helping out with something
> like this. But, if it happens sometime in the next 10, after a year
> or two, and anywhere in or near Northeast Kentucky, Middle Tennessee,
> or Northern Alabama, I might pitch in. (those are places I have family
> in...)
In other words - if we've already done the hard work, and we're somewhere close
to you, you'll come? LOL Thanks.
Avery Davies
> "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" wrote:
> > Heh, porn in the American conservative heartland. ^_^
> > Just remember where the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund's
> > recent battles were and where a comic shop was chased out
> > by the townsfolk for selling indecent material.
>
> Unfortunately, I can only speak about yaoi and Yaoicon.. but many ppl
> see yaoi as gay porn, and yet there's a Con for it coming up ^_^
Yeah, but YaoiCon's in San Francisco ^_^
OTOH, even though I do live here and frequent A-Kon alot, I keep hearing
rather ribald stuff about the anime scene here from time to time, but never
really witnessing it, so having a rather adult convention in the Buckle of
the Bible Belt IS possible...
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"Brad Jackson" <gaij...@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
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> Actually, that brings up one of those perennial questions: which
> characters are lesbians, and which are suffering from hero worship? I'm
> thinking specifically about Gunbuster, and I never could figure out
> wheather Noriko wanted into her "big sister's" pants, or if she just had a
> bad case of hero worship? Its fairly obvious that Akane (from KOR, not
> Ranma 1/2) was a lesbian, but some of the other characters leave it up in
> the air.
I've mention it to Erica, but Maya Ibuki from Evangelion has always struck
people (me included) as a lesbian, although it might be just hero worship
for Ritsuko. OTOH, there is her fantasy realized by the Instrumentality
Project in EoE....
H Y Lee
That one's for Shotacon Con (ugh, there's got to be a better name...)
o.0;;
regards,
serena
big yaoi and SHOTA fan.. ~_^
Brad Jackson
>see yaoi as gay porn, and yet there's a Con for it coming up ^_^ It's a
>small step for the yaoi genre, but certainly a very important one. I
>suppose if the attendees don't cause any trouble, then nothing bad would
>happen.. *crosses her fingers*
I think that both YaoiCon and HentaiCon are going to be fairly safe
because of ignorance. Most people, including virtually all members of the
Religious Reich, don't know what either Yaoi or Hentai means. Besides, most of
the Reptiles from the Religious Reich don't bother paying attention to cons
anyway.
Comic Book stores are easy targets because they are stationary and exist
for long enough to notice, cons come and go in two to three days. I'd say that
we're going to be safe enough, even if we did hold HentaiCon in Oklahoma (which
is actually worse than Texas as far as censorship idiots goes). If we hold the
con in Denver CO, or Albuquerquie NM the safety factor goes up considerably.
I think that YaoiCon has a big advantage since its being held in
California. However I'd like HentaiCon to be closer to the middle of the US
just to make it equally inconvenient for people from both coasts to show up.
Brad Jackson
>of hentai goodies.. or something like that ~_^
>
>May the best cosplayer win ^_^
Its a thought. "Not only do you get the COMPLETE "End of Summer" series,
you also get all of "Dragon Pink"! How could it possibly get better?" Or were
you meaning more along the line of toys :)
The thing is that most hentai costumes would either be a) sailor fuku, b)
ordinary looking guys, or c) really difficult to make demon outfits. The
Hentai genre tends towards slice of life (with lots of sex) or demonic invasion
(of the local high school, of course).
This does bring up one question that has me bugged though, why do so many
of the commercial subbers insist on pretending that the women in H-Anime are
18? You can clearly hear them saying things like "watashi wa juroku-sai" yet
the subtitle says "I'm eighteen". And that bit that Kitty films have at the
beginning about how some two year colleges in Japan require sailor fuku (I
don't know if that's true or not, but the schools depicted are clearly
highschools). As far as I know, since the shows are just drawings, like, not
real, it shouldn't be breaking the law, right?
Brad Jackson
I dunno. In the manga, maybe, but in the anime I think the lesbianism was
pretty obvious. There were several differences between the manga and the anime
(no cat in the manga, for example), maybe he was talking about the manga only
when he said it was hero worship. I can see Noriko from Gunbuster being hero
worship, but Akane of KOR (in the anime) might as well have a big "L" on her
forehead.
Brad Jackson
>How much non-tentacle, non-rape hentai is out there? (And I may add, how
>much of it is any good?)
Well, of course, "good" depends on your definition, but there is a lot of
non-tentacle, non-rape anime. Try "End of Summer", "Fist Angel", "Cool
Devices", "Tales of Titilation", "Weather Report Girl". If you give me a
little leeway on the non-rape requirement I'd also list "Dragon Pink", and
"Dragon Knight". Of course that isn't a full list, but only what I could think
of off the top of my head * (see footnote).
--
Brad Jackson, coordinator for Hentai Con
http://www.hentaicon.homestead.com
* (footnote) Gak, how many non-tentacle, non-rape, anime can the average Otaku
list off the top of his/her head? Am I above average here, or what? Also,
while I've known for a while that I was Otaku, does organizing a con
automtically make one Ota-King?
Brad Jackson
>its dated artstyle and too many mechas ^^;; Mind you, these are coming
>from a Yaoi fan *grins*
Which proves that some women *DO* like the tentacle rape style of Hentai.
Even women who are into Yaoi.
Actually, I'm kinda confused though, you listed La Blue Girl as one which
has helped spread the "Hentai == tentacle rape" attitude, but I'd say that Lyon
was rather worse than La Blue Girl, at least in LBG none of the extras die
because of demonic rape. Anyway, just wondering how Lyon wound up on your
list, and LBG didn't.
On a side note, has anyone else ever seen the live action La Blue Girl?
Did you laugh aloud at the garden hoses disguised as tentacles? Did you really
laugh as you watched the actresses do their best to pretend to be frightened by
the garden hoses? Did you notice that you could see the prop guy's shadow as
he held/moved the garden hoses?
I saw the Live Action LBG at A-Kon 7, and kami it was funny.
Brad Jackson
>>
>
>Thanks! A best of luck with your con, as well!
Thanks, us perverts have to stick together. Like Ben Franklen said
"We must all hang together, or we shall all hang separately". Ben
Franklen, btw published pornography to finance his newspapers.
H Y Lee
> Its a thought. "Not only do you get the COMPLETE "End of Summer" series,
> you also get all of "Dragon Pink"! How could it possibly get better?" Or were
> you meaning more along the line of toys :)
Oooh.. tempting ^^;;
> The thing is that most hentai costumes would either be a) sailor fuku, b)
> ordinary looking guys, or c) really difficult to make demon outfits. The
> Hentai genre tends towards slice of life (with lots of sex) or demonic invasion
> (of the local high school, of course).
You might want to put up a sign saying : "Fondling is prohibited within
the con premises" -- just in case.. ^_^v
> As far as I know, since the shows are just drawings, like, not
> real, it shouldn't be breaking the law, right?
Righto ^_^ I'd like to think of hentai as a form of erotic art. You
don't throw an artist into jail just bcoz he painted something
explicit-looking and showed it to his group of friends. It's art, an
appreciation of animation, a way of expressing desires, et cetera.. I
could go on, but I'm no art scholar.. ^^;;
regards,
serena
Brad Jackson
>people (me included) as a lesbian, although it might be just hero worship
>for Ritsuko. OTOH, there is her fantasy realized by the Instrumentality
>Project in EoE....
Oh, I think that even ignoring the EoE scene its pretty obvious that
Maya had the hots for Ritsuko. I think that saying "hero worship" about a
(how old was Maya, 20?, 22?) year old woman is stretching things. We may
let that excuse hold for high school girls, but for adult women it wears a
bit thin.
The Instrumentality Project secene just confirmed everyone's
suspicions.
H Y Lee
> I think that both YaoiCon and HentaiCon are going to be fairly safe
> because of ignorance. Most people, including virtually all members of the
> Religious Reich, don't know what either Yaoi or Hentai means. Besides, most of
> the Reptiles from the Religious Reich don't bother paying attention to cons
> anyway.
No one tells, no one knows ~_^
> I think that YaoiCon has a big advantage since its being held in
> California. However I'd like HentaiCon to be closer to the middle of the US
> just to make it equally inconvenient for people from both coasts to show up.
Those who can't make it to Yaoicon could go to Shoujocon instead. Ah,
well.. I'm in the UK anyway, doesn't matter much to me -_-;;
Good luck!
regards,
serena
H Y Lee
> Which proves that some women *DO* like the tentacle rape style of Hentai.
> Even women who are into Yaoi.
*LOL*
Haven't you heard? There's actually a genre of yaoi called
"Tentacle-Yaoi" ^_^ I'm ordering 'Flowering', a manga that's supposedly
filled with tentacle rape scenes.. with guys only, of course ~_^
Someday, I'm gonna get myself some Tentacle-Shota.. *sigh*.. that would
be THE day... o.0;;
No need to cringe in disgust. Some women, like me, have a different
mentality and see things differently than others, that's all ^_^ We keep
hardcore yaoi artists busily earning big bucks for mangas and doujinshis
*LOL*
> Actually, I'm kinda confused though, you listed La Blue Girl as one which
> has helped spread the "Hentai == tentacle rape" attitude, but I'd say that Lyon
> was rather worse than La Blue Girl, at least in LBG none of the extras die
> because of demonic rape. Anyway, just wondering how Lyon wound up on your
> list, and LBG didn't.
Well, whenever I asked h-fans "What do you recommend", LBG comes up
tops. It's one of the earliest hentai movies I've watched, and the
association with tentacle-rape stuck since then ^^;; Of course, after
that I've come across more violent hentai movies/series... o.0;; Don't
ask me what they're called.. the ones that I watched were mostly
chinese-subbed, so I couldn't really understand a lot >.<;;
I got Lyon bcoz the screenshots looked very much like Urotsukidoji's
artstyle.. and though I'd give it a try. The story's ok.. (I'm a sci-fi
fan too ^_^).. but the artstyle's a little outdated for me ^^;; The
setting was an eye-opener though - liked the alien background and the
costumes.. ^_^
After watching a good number of h-anime, rape and violent death doesn't
seem to matter much.. sometimes they come together, sometimes they
don't.. Oh well ~_^
regards,
serena
Erica Friedman
> >Thanks! A best of luck with your con, as well!
>
> Thanks, us perverts have to stick together. Like Ben Franklen said
> "We must all hang together, or we shall all hang separately". Ben
> Franklen, btw published pornography to finance his newspapers.
True, but I can't say that I consider an interest in other women perverted,.
LOL
--
David Watson
>>How much non-tentacle, non-rape hentai is out there? (And I may add, how
>>much of it is any good?)
> Well, of course, "good" depends on your definition, but there is a lot of
> non-tentacle, non-rape anime. Try "End of Summer", "Fist Angel",
Shurely you meant New Angel?
> "Cool Devices",
Calling CDev "non-rape" is stretching it. The whole series is dark, and
some eps are much darker than others.
> "Tales of Titilation", "Weather Report Girl". If you give me a
> little leeway on the non-rape requirement I'd also list "Dragon Pink", and
> "Dragon Knight". Of course that isn't a full list, but only what I could think
> of off the top of my head * (see footnote).
There are plenty of cases where rape becomes a possible scenario, but
someone (usually the male lead) stops it. The first ep of Can Can Bunny
Extra, an otherwise innocuous piece of work, has this.
> * (footnote) Gak, how many non-tentacle, non-rape, anime can the average Otaku
> list off the top of his/her head? Am I above average here, or what? Also,
> while I've known for a while that I was Otaku, does organizing a con
> automtically make one Ota-King?
I could possibly name more if I had the money to rent more (and the credit
card to get a goddamned membership). And the stomach to get through the
wretched dubbing that new titles are currently getting nothing but.
H Y Lee
> Calling CDev "non-rape" is stretching it. The whole series is dark, and
> some eps are much darker than others.
I'd say eps 7 (?.. err.. the one with the stepfather..) and 12 (the
celebrity) were the most disturbing. Ep 1 was rather interesting
*glowing p_nis! LOL!*
regards,
serena
Miki no Miko
Erica Friedman <e.l.f.@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> paranormalized wrote:
>
> > Hmm, depends on where the con may be, and when. I'd rather go to a
> > few regular anime cons before attending/helping out with something
> > like this. But, if it happens sometime in the next 10, after a year
> > or two, and anywhere in or near Northeast Kentucky, Middle Tennessee,
> > or Northern Alabama, I might pitch in. (those are places I have family
> > in...)
>
> In other words - if we've already done the hard work, and we're somewhere
close
> to you, you'll come? LOL Thanks.
I'd offer to help out too.. But if it did indeed happen, I'd be too young to
come. >_>;
--
Jen, really wants to go to Yaoicon too and can't.. ;_;
H Y Lee
> I'd offer to help out too.. But if it did indeed happen, I'd be too young to
> come. >_>;
Well, there's always the next year.. -_-;;
> --
> Jen, really wants to go to Yaoicon too and can't.. ;_;
I got my Aesth ID, but I can't either -_-;; Frustrating, ne?
regards,
serena
Arnold Kim
> This does bring up one question that has me bugged though, why do so
many
> of the commercial subbers insist on pretending that the women in H-Anime
are
> 18? You can clearly hear them saying things like "watashi wa juroku-sai"
yet
> the subtitle says "I'm eighteen". And that bit that Kitty films have at
the
> beginning about how some two year colleges in Japan require sailor fuku (I
> don't know if that's true or not, but the schools depicted are clearly
> highschools). As far as I know, since the shows are just drawings, like,
not
> real, it shouldn't be breaking the law, right?
Probably not, but do you really want to try testing that theory?:)
Arnold Kim
Miki no Miko
> Miki no Miko wrote:
> > I'd offer to help out too.. But if it did indeed happen, I'd be too
young to
> > come. >_>;
>
> Well, there's always the next year.. -_-;;
More like.. Oh.. 3 years later. ^_^;
--
Jen
Brad Jackson
Yup, security through obscurity. I'm a geek, so I can't say that I
really approve of the idea, but I think it'll work ok for cons.
Brad Jackson
>the con premises" -- just in case.. ^_^v
I'm hoping that it won't be necessary. Fondling isn't allowed at any
other con, why would people assume it might be at HentaiCon? Of course, I
suppose some jerks *WILL* assume that it's ok, but that's what the security
forces are for <evil grin>
>Righto ^_^ I'd like to think of hentai as a form of erotic art. You
>don't throw an artist into jail just bcoz he painted something
>explicit-looking and showed it to his group of friends. It's art, an
Actually, down in Florida a while back they did just that. Its one of
the reasons the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund got started. Somehow some
people here in the US have the idea that the First Ammendment ends "unless
its offensive, obscene, or pornographic". Depressing, actually.
Brad Jackson
Give me a big enough legal budget and I'd be willing to. With my current
funds (roughtly zero) not a chance.
Brad Jackson
>
>Shurely you meant New Angel?
Damn, I hate when I mess up. Yes, I meant "New Angel", I was trying
to type "First Angel" and slipped. Though, I suppose "Fist Angel" could be
a title for an H-Anime...
>card to get a goddamned membership). And the stomach to get through the
>wretched dubbing that new titles are currently getting nothing but.
It really is getting bad, isn't it? I'll admit that I'm biased
against dubs to begin with, but even by normal dubbing standards some of
the H-dubs are getting just plain repulsive. When I saw the BGC dub I
thought we'd hit rock bottom, but there's Kitty doing their best to prove
me wrong...
Brad Jackson
>"Tentacle-Yaoi" ^_^ I'm ordering 'Flowering', a manga that's supposedly
>filled with tentacle rape scenes.. with guys only, of course ~_^
Equal opportunity tentacles, I love it. Actually, since Yaoi isn't my
thing, I know very little about it, thus the existance of Tentacle Yaoi
doesn't really surprise me that much, though I didn't know it existed until
you mentioned it.
I'm glad to know that the hoards of horney fangirls have seen the
possibilities of tentacles for their Yaoi dojinshi, it opens up whole new
worlds :)
>No need to cringe in disgust. Some women, like me, have a different
>mentality and see things differently than others, that's all ^_^ We keep
>hardcore yaoi artists busily earning big bucks for mangas and doujinshis
Who was cringing in disgust? I'm a pervert, and its my considered
opinion that so are most (>90%) of the people on Earth, its just that most
of them try to pretend that they aren't. The notion that women don't like
sex is Victorian BS. You like tentacles (Yaoi or otherwise) I'm glad, it
proves that my basic thesis is correct.
>Well, whenever I asked h-fans "What do you recommend", LBG comes up
>tops. It's one of the earliest hentai movies I've watched, and the
>association with tentacle-rape stuck since then ^^;;
Though you've got to admit that the pubic hair as weapon bit was new
(LBG tape 1, never used again so far as I know). Actually, yeah, LBG
pretty much shares responsibility with Urotsukidoji for spreading the "all
hentai == tentacle rape" myth. Things like Lyon never got the recognition.
Brad Jackson
I say "perverted" because I kinda like the word. To me it holds no
negative associations, and it describes something that most (>50%) of the
population doesn't do. Perversion is a purely subjective measure and term, no
offense meant, I class HentaiCon as "perverted" too.
paranormalized
<e.l.f.@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>paranormalized wrote:
>
>> Hmm, depends on where the con may be, and when. I'd rather go to a
>> few regular anime cons before attending/helping out with something
>> like this. But, if it happens sometime in the next 10, after a year
>> or two, and anywhere in or near Northeast Kentucky, Middle Tennessee,
>> or Northern Alabama, I might pitch in. (those are places I have family
>> in...)
>
>In other words - if we've already done the hard work, and we're somewhere close
>to you, you'll come? LOL Thanks.
>
Well, yeah...^_^;;
But I might volunteer to help out if it's close enough. Otherwise, if
it's more than a 4, 5-hour drive I might still attend, but only as an
interested fan. And in any case, I won't help out this year, since as
I said, I'd rather get a few 'normal' anime cons under my belt
first... What are the likeliest sites for something like this,
anyways?
>Cheers,
>
>Erica
>AniLesboCon 2001 - "For real women who like their women...animated."
>http://www.shoujoai.com/~anilesbocon
>
>"World Shaking" Fanfic - http://www.worldshaking.net
>The Fanfic Revolution - http://come.to/hauthor
>
>Because fanfic does not have to suck
>
>
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paranormalized
Jackson) wrote:
*snip snip*
>
>* (footnote) Gak, how many non-tentacle, non-rape, anime can the average Otaku
>list off the top of his/her head? Am I above average here, or what? Also,
Hmmmm, Cool Devices springs immediately to mind, tho' that isn'y
totally free of rape, I think...U-jin, maybe? Cream Lemon? That's
the best I can do, but it's more impressive when you realize I haven't
*watched* any hentai,(though I've looked at some on the web), and the
other two titles come solely from browsing the shelves of video
stores.
>while I've known for a while that I was Otaku, does organizing a con
>automtically make one Ota-King?
Cool! Otaku no Video reference! I don't know if there are multiple
Ota-kings, or if there is only one, at any given moment, the True King
of all Otaku.
If you could only pick one person, who would you crown Ota-King?
Anno, maybe?
paranormalized
wrote:
>Brad Jackson wrote:
*snip snip*
>> I think that YaoiCon has a big advantage since its being held in
>> California. However I'd like HentaiCon to be closer to the middle of the US
>> just to make it equally inconvenient for people from both coasts to show up.
>
>Those who can't make it to Yaoicon could go to Shoujocon instead. Ah,
>well.. I'm in the UK anyway, doesn't matter much to me -_-;;
>
Umm, not neccessarily. New Jersey is on the east coast, a good
distance from the middle of the US. So it doesn't succeed in its
stated goal of inconveniencing the coast-dwellers.
paranormalized
*snip snip*
>
>The creator of KOR has stated that she's not a lesbian and it is hero worship.
Ah, but what do creators know about their characters. I mean, have
you *seen* what some characters will do when placed in fan-fics? ;)
>--
> Ken Arromdee / arro...@rahul.net / http://www.rahul.net/arromdee
>
> "Eventually all companies are replaced." --Bill Gates, October 1999
Brad Jackson
>Ota-kings, or if there is only one, at any given moment, the True King
>of all Otaku.
I think that by the reference he meant more "uber-otaku" or "super otaku"
rather than "one who rules otaku". So I'd say that there are definately
multiple Ota-Kings in existance.
H Y Lee
> Equal opportunity tentacles, I love it. Actually, since Yaoi isn't my
> thing, I know very little about it, thus the existance of Tentacle Yaoi
> doesn't really surprise me that much, though I didn't know it existed until
> you mentioned it.
It's alright, yaoi and hentai-loving ppl don't exactly sit down together
and exchange ideas often ^^ Just as there is Lolicon tentacle rape,
there is also Shotacon tentacle rape too.. I've seen a few manga pages
off some hardcore magazines, but that's about all that I know ^^ Hope
I'll be able to import those mags soon.. *crosses her fingers*
> I'm glad to know that the hoards of horney fangirls have seen the
> possibilities of tentacles for their Yaoi dojinshi, it opens up whole new
> worlds :)
I've been to both Hentai and Yaoi worlds.. so I can understand what
you're saying ^^ A lot (but not all) of long-time yaoi fans have
explored Hentai to some extent, before committing themselves to Yaoi..
so they probably know quite a lot about tentacle rape.. only that they'd
avoid using that concept on women, and prefer to have it done on their
bishounens instead ~_^
Earlier yaoi stuff tend to be very shoujo-like, i.e. mild, suggestive,
but nothing *too* explicit.. and this is what many ppl imagine yaoi to
be. It's only recently that there's an increasing number of hardcore
yaoi stuff being released - doujinshis, videos and mangas included - and
some are even read/watched/created by the gay community too (yaoi was
originally created by women, for women). imho, that led to a dramatic
hike in explicitness *yay* It's still a very 'underground' thing,
though.. not many ppl know about it.. but for those that do.. well, they
have all the fun ~_^
I'm just waiting for the day I can get my grubby fingers on Legend of
the Four Horsemen and Boku no Sexual Harassment videos, and a whole
stockpile of Zettai Reido magazines.. mmm.. I just love seeing men being
chained, whipped and deliciously ravaged *LOL*
> Who was cringing in disgust? I'm a pervert, and its my considered
> opinion that so are most (>90%) of the people on Earth, its just that most
> of them try to pretend that they aren't. The notion that women don't like
> sex is Victorian BS. You like tentacles (Yaoi or otherwise) I'm glad, it
> proves that my basic thesis is correct.
*LOL*
Glad to be able to support your thesis ^_^
Well, if you're ever interested, you could try lurking in certain
popular pics/fics mailinglists. Hardcore yaoi isn't much different from
your standard hentai nowadays (many thanks to the male-population of
yaoi-lovers) ^^ I happen to be one of the few who accepts both homo and
hetero ecchiness simutaneously.. tentacles included ^^
> Though you've got to admit that the pubic hair as weapon bit was new
> (LBG tape 1, never used again so far as I know). Actually, yeah, LBG
> pretty much shares responsibility with Urotsukidoji for spreading the "all
> hentai == tentacle rape" myth. Things like Lyon never got the recognition.
*grins*
Well, LBG and Urotsukidoji was what started off the hentai craze for me.
Things would certainly be a little different if I watched New Angel,
Elven Bride, or other 'milder' h-movies..
regards,
serena
H Y Lee
>Though, I suppose "Fist Angel" could be a title for an H-Anime...
Itai ^^;;
regards,
serena
David Watson
>>> non-tentacle, non-rape anime. Try "End of Summer", "Fist Angel",
>>Shurely you meant New Angel?
> Damn, I hate when I mess up. Yes, I meant "New Angel", I was trying
> to type "First Angel" and slipped. Though, I suppose "Fist Angel" could be
> a title for an H-Anime...
The Super Fist Ayumi manga might just fit the bill (two-chapter job which
rounded out the end of the original (S)Punky Knight tankouban).
Definitely one for Yuri fans.
Robert Geiger
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>
> "Brad Jackson" <gaij...@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
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>
> > Actually, that brings up one of those perennial questions: which
> > characters are lesbians, and which are suffering from hero worship? I'm
> > thinking specifically about Gunbuster, and I never could figure out
> > wheather Noriko wanted into her "big sister's" pants, or if she just had
a
> > bad case of hero worship? Its fairly obvious that Akane (from KOR, not
> > Ranma 1/2) was a lesbian, but some of the other characters leave it up
in
> > the air.
>
And of course, Wakaba(?) Clinging all over utena
Robert Geiger
Brad Jackson <gaij...@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
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> >The creator of KOR has stated that she's not a lesbian and it is hero
worship.
>
> I dunno. In the manga, maybe, but in the anime I think the lesbianism
was
> pretty obvious. There were several differences between the manga and the
anime
> (no cat in the manga, for example), maybe he was talking about the manga
only
> when he said it was hero worship. I can see Noriko from Gunbuster being
hero
> worship, but Akane of KOR (in the anime) might as well have a big "L" on
her
> forehead.
> --
Ah yes! Takahashi's little bull dyke ^^
Nargun
> >Unfortunately, I can only speak about yaoi and Yaoicon.. but many ppl
> >see yaoi as gay porn, and yet there's a Con for it coming up ^_^ It's a
> >small step for the yaoi genre, but certainly a very important one. I
> >suppose if the attendees don't cause any trouble, then nothing bad would
> >happen.. *crosses her fingers*
>
> I think that both YaoiCon and HentaiCon are going to be fairly safe
> because of ignorance. Most people, including virtually all members of the
> Religious Reich, don't know what either Yaoi or Hentai means. Besides, most of
> the Reptiles from the Religious Reich don't bother paying attention to cons
> anyway.
> Comic Book stores are easy targets because they are stationary and exist
> for long enough to notice, cons come and go in two to three days. I'd say that
> we're going to be safe enough, even if we did hold HentaiCon in Oklahoma (which
> is actually worse than Texas as far as censorship idiots goes). If we hold the
> con in Denver CO, or Albuquerquie NM the safety factor goes up considerably.
Has anyone ever read Neil Gaiman's "Sandman" comics?
> I think that YaoiCon has a big advantage since its being held in
> California. However I'd like HentaiCon to be closer to the middle of the US
> just to make it equally inconvenient for people from both coasts to show up.
>
Louis
--
Louis Patterson l.patt...@ugrad.unimelb.edu.au
Brad Jackson
>>her forehead.
>
*BZZZT* That would be Akane of Ranma 1/2. The Akane I'm refering to
is from Kimagure Orange Road. Tendo Akane(Ranma 1/2) never gave any
indication of being lesbian, I mean, she grabbed Ranma's breast once, but
that seemed more like a way to shock Ranma rather than a lesbian overature.
Akane, I can't remember her last name, from KOR was the cousin of the
male lead (who's name has also slipped my mind right now, I don't know
what's the matter with me), and had a crush on Ayukawa Madoka.