Many teen sitcoms/dramas like Saved by the Bell that aired on
American TV had at least one episode dealing with underage drinking.
This episode was always very moralistic and always showed the evils of
teen drinking. Usually this involved drunk driving but sometimes it
involved thinks like blood alcohol poisoning or sleeping with somebody
you normally wouldn't. I can't think of any show where the only result
of underage drinking was that a few teenagers did some really
embarrasing things.
How many anime depict teenage characters drinking alcohol? Do
any depict in the moralistic manner that such things are usually
depicted on American television or is the Kimagure Orange Road rote,
the worst think that happens is that the drunk teen does something
embarrasing more common?
Anime with underage drinking that I know of include: Kimagure
Orange Road and Koko wa Greenwood.
Generally, it's by accident, if ever:
Usagi's ballroom party, and the Tomobiki gang's flower-viewing party
spring to mind.
Derek Janssen (Japan is relatively deficient of Very Special Episodes)
eja...@comcast.net
laurie
I don't remember how many anime titles do, but more manga titles do. I
know that in [b]Negima![/b], there are a few drinking incidents in the
manga but I don't remember if those made it into the anime. Tenma-chan
has a sleep-over and breaks out the booze to loosen the tounges of her
friends. In the anime, that became barley tea.
I think that you are trying to compare societal "apples and oranges" here,
but I'll stick to anime and avoid going off topic into areas in which I am a
knowledgeable amateur, but still an amateur. In Japanese sitcom/drama anime
that I've seen, teenaged drinking doesn't usually show up as an issue or as
a "horrible example". More typically, alcohol intoxication is depicted as a
problem of lower-class adult males. A couple of good examples are the father
and grandfather in "Hanada Shounen-shi". Teenage consumption of alcohol is
more often shown as a part of family societal rituals, in situations which
would be very familiar to many European viewers. For example, 15 year old
Hibari in "Stop! Hibari-kun" shares a toast of sake with his father on the
anniversary of the death of Hibari's mother; it's a coming-of-age
recognition of Hibari by his father.
Dave Baranyi
Patlabor's "The only way out of this is to get totally
blasted so no one will blame us." (adults, however).
Guys buying drinks for Sayoko of AMG with the apparent
intent of taking advantage of her (still adults).
Belldandy getting stoned on Coke.
chibi-Urd guzzling a bottle of Sake?
A borderline case is the hard-drinking, heavy smoking,
scooter riding 16 year old from Strawberry Marshmallows;
in the anime, she is officially a 20 year old college student.
(In the Japanese, this line was delivered with a complete
lack of conviction; the English dub makes her seem serious
about it. In the manga, she is definitely still in high school.)
The "grape juice" drinking loli from Kiddy Grade - Lumierre?
The Azumanga Daioh drinking party?
The Keroro Gunso drinking party where Tamama and
Moe-chan both make passes at Keroro?
Kokoro of Kokoro Library is given an alcohol-based
home remedy cough suppressant.
-Galen
Quite a few, but usually it's played off for laughs, and there's almost
NEVER a plot which involves "the evils of alcohol abuse". It apparently
isn't seen as such a huge social problem in Japan that they feel the need to
make commentary on it in animation.
That, or animation producers just don't care.
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Oh, and at the start of Maison Ikkoku, Our Hero
is still a teenager, even if out of high school, and
he gets drunk and makes an aggressive pass at
the manager. Which is especially embarassing
because he can't remember the next day what
happened.
-Galen
> How many anime depict teenage characters drinking alcohol? Do
>any depict in the moralistic manner that such things are usually
>depicted on American television or is the Kimagure Orange Road rote,
>the worst think that happens is that the drunk teen does something
>embarrasing more common?
Usually it's to comedic effect. Some examples that come to my mind
are:
Patlabor: The show makes much of Noa's tremendous tolerance for
alcohol to the point of even drinking Kanuka under the table. Her
father owns a liquor store so Noa developed her tolerance for booze
early.
Kiko-chan Smile: Five year old Kiko-chan gets smashed on sake
celebrating the New Year with her parents.
Rurouni Kenshin: Yahiko attempts to demonstrate his adulthood by
drinking sake during a party and ends up passing out.
Sailor Moon: Usagi gets blasted at a ball.
Escaflowne: Hitomi gets toasted on wine after Millerna teases her.
Kazemakase Tsukikage Ran: Lady Miao frequently indulges and gets in
all matter of trouble because of it.
El Hazard: Sheera Sheera drinks her sorrows away over Makoto and gets
scolded by Fujisawa for under aged drinking.
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>Kazemakase Tsukikage Ran: Lady Miao frequently indulges and gets in
>all matter of trouble because of it.
Miao doesn't drink that I recall; it's Ran who's the boozer.
-Galen
In episode 5 of Please Teacher, on the trip to Okinawa, what is drunk
is not made clear, but the freshmen act drunk. What happens isn't seen
to be bad, morally , though it does change a sub-plot.
DBB
>On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 20:01:52 -0400, Galen Musbach <musb...@xtn.net>
>wrote:
>
>Oh, and at the start of Maison Ikkoku, Our Hero
>is still a teenager, even if out of high school, and
>he gets drunk and makes an aggressive pass at
>the manager. Which is especially embarassing
>because he can't remember the next day what
>happened.
>
In UFO Princess episode 7, the beach party, all
the catgirls, many of whom are in high school,
attend a drinking party. One of the Princesses
gets totally sloshed and wants to do various lewd
things on stage, but the Chief of Maids won't let her.
Since she's too young to be on the marriage market,
she's presumably a teen.
"Nice to meet you, cream stew!"
To add to this:
In Meitantei Conan, in the two-part episode where Hattori Heiji is
introduced, Conan is suffering from a bad cold, and Heiji gives him a shot
of a very potent Chinese whiskey. He gets a little drunk, but only
briefly...and his cold gets worse.
By some chance, this particular whiskey, combined with a high fever,
temporarily changes Conan back into his teenage self, Kudou Shinichi. After
the case is solved and he has reverted to Conan, he decides that drinking
more of the same whiskey might cure him permanently. After a few false
starts, he finally gets hold of the stuff and drinks most of the bottle.
All he gets for his trouble is one HELL of a hangover.
In the "watered down sake" episode Miao gets rip-roaring drunk,
which lasts all episode. The episode where she "accidently"
robs the collection box at the temple, she, Ran, and the two
"bandit brothers" get plastered. That's the only way she finally
feels guilty enough to admit to her "sin."
Cap.
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Naturally, our young ne'er-do-well turns to his good buddy Doraemon,
who produces a filter that makes soda pop have the same
inhibition-lowering effect as booze. Nobita invites some friends over,
they have a party, and wackiness ensues.
>
>
> Many teen sitcoms/dramas like Saved by the Bell that aired on
> American TV had at least one episode dealing with underage drinking.
> This episode was always very moralistic and always showed the evils of
> teen drinking. Usually this involved drunk driving but sometimes it
> involved thinks like blood alcohol poisoning or sleeping with somebody
> you normally wouldn't. I can't think of any show where the only result
> of underage drinking was that a few teenagers did some really
> embarrasing things.
>
They did some embarrassing things in "American Pie." ^_^
>
> How many anime depict teenage characters drinking alcohol? Do
> any depict in the moralistic manner that such things are usually
> depicted on American television or is the Kimagure Orange Road rote,
> the worst think that happens is that the drunk teen does something
> embarrasing more common?
>
> Anime with underage drinking that I know of include: Kimagure
> Orange Road and Koko wa Greenwood.
>
Maison Ikkoku.
Laters. =)
STan
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> Pumbaa wrote:
> > The legal drinking age in Japan may be much less than in the United States.
> > A teen might be able to drink legally in Japan. Drinking age used to be
> > eighteen but now it is probably twenty-one in all the States. I seem to
> > remember that in France the age is about sixteen or younger if you are with
> > your family. Anyone here care to update the information?
>
> I believe the drinking age in Japan is 19 or 20, but it seems to not be
> taken nearly as seriously as in the United States (as I hear you can
> buy beer from a vending machine in Japan)
>
But you can buy anything from a vending machine in Japan! ^_^
Who needs to go shopping?
Laters. =)
Stan
She does get loaded at least once; Ran's just much cooler about it.
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I've heard of all-vending-machine specialty shops in Japan. Sounds
nippy, but I wouldn't want to eat dinner there. And no, I didn't see
any of the fabled ones that apparently sell used schoolgirls' panties
during my visit, but then again, I wasn't really looking for them.
My first drink there was a Cup of Sake out of a vending machine. Well,
it helped me clear out some of the 10-yen coins I made my first time
busking there. The guest house I stayed at had a beer vending machine
on the ground floor as well. So those definitely exist there.
Watson
Who hates beer, but did indulge in the coffee vending machines quite a
few times. He still drank more alcohol in a month there than he usually
does in a year.
Yes, but were they DRUNK, or just STUPID? (No, seriously, were they drunk? I
absolutely refuse to watch that movie, on the grounds that it's TOO
lowbrow...all I needed to hear was "dude sticks his dick in a pie" and I
knew I would never, EVER go ANYWHERE *NEAR* that movie.)
Oh, I'm sure there's ONE out there. I'm just saying the entire underage
drinking thing is seen more or less as a joke in Japan, and not taken at all
seriously the way it is elsewhere.
They outlawed the pantsu vendors in 1999. There's still a few in the back
alleys of the seedier parts of the country, but you're NOT going to find
them in more well-heeled areas of Tokyo. Hell, I doubt you'll even find them
in Roppongi.
> Watson
> Who hates beer, but did indulge in the coffee vending machines quite a
> few times.
It'd be wonderful if we had hot canned coffee vending machines here in the
US. But the Starbucks Empire will NEVER allow it.
>
>"Dave Watson" <aj...@fuspamma.freenet.carleton.ca> wrote in message
>news:e8cpjh$pnd$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...
>> I've heard of all-vending-machine specialty shops in Japan. Sounds
>> nippy, but I wouldn't want to eat dinner there. And no, I didn't see
>> any of the fabled ones that apparently sell used schoolgirls' panties
>> during my visit, but then again, I wasn't really looking for them.
>
>They outlawed the pantsu vendors in 1999. There's still a few in the back
>alleys of the seedier parts of the country, but you're NOT going to find
>them in more well-heeled areas of Tokyo. Hell, I doubt you'll even find them
>in Roppongi.
>
>> Watson
>> Who hates beer, but did indulge in the coffee vending machines quite a
>> few times.
>
>It'd be wonderful if we had hot canned coffee vending machines here in the
>US. But the Starbucks Empire will NEVER allow it.
They can't very well stop it. Given that the major vendors are
Coca-Cola and Pepsi I think those two can hold off Starbucks if
necessary. It's bound to happen eventually if they become convinced
there is a market here. They keep expanding their product lines, and
we even see Coke having their Coca-Cola Black product.
I think it was Virgin Fleet, where the boytoy is tied up and
Sake forced down his throat. In the dub, the rescue team
nurse states that he could have died from alcohol poisoning;
this is completely an invention, and not stated in the Japanese.
It seems likely to me that getting someone drunk and fucking
them over would be a hentai scenario rather than a SatAm
cartoon.
-Galen
>
>It seems likely to me that getting someone drunk and fucking
>them over would be a hentai scenario rather than a SatAm
>cartoon.
Then again, this is a recurring theme in Samurai dramas,
isn't it? Getting an enemy drunk and trying to kill him while
he's weak? Isn't that how Susanoo defeated Orochi? But
someone would have to be pretty pathetic to use such
methods on children.
-Galen
>
>I've heard of all-vending-machine specialty shops in Japan. Sounds
>nippy, but I wouldn't want to eat dinner there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automat
-Galen
The Law prohibits anybody under 20 from drinking alcohol.
But a cup of cold umeshu [plum wine] is popular in hot summer
days and parents allow their children drink it. In an episode of
Maison Ikkoku, Obaachan brought her grand son a barrel of
umeshu that she made.
--
/ Ishikawa Kazuo /
Perhaps drinking is less of a concern because the driving
age is 18? And most teens don't have cars?
-Galen
>
>Perhaps drinking is less of a concern because the driving
>age is 18? And most teens don't have cars?
For that matter, would a Japanese recognize the phrase:
"If you drink, don't park; accidents cause people"?
-Galen
>
>"Dave Watson" <aj...@fuspamma.freenet.carleton.ca> wrote in message
>news:e8cpjh$pnd$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...
>> I've heard of all-vending-machine specialty shops in Japan. Sounds
>> nippy, but I wouldn't want to eat dinner there. And no, I didn't see
>> any of the fabled ones that apparently sell used schoolgirls' panties
>> during my visit, but then again, I wasn't really looking for them.
>
>They outlawed the pantsu vendors in 1999. There's still a few in the back
>alleys of the seedier parts of the country, but you're NOT going to find
>them in more well-heeled areas of Tokyo. Hell, I doubt you'll even find them
>in Roppongi.
>
>> Watson
>> Who hates beer, but did indulge in the coffee vending machines quite a
>> few times.
>
>It'd be wonderful if we had hot canned coffee vending machines here in the
>US. But the Starbucks Empire will NEVER allow it.
I'd be wonderful if Starbucks would start selling drinkable coffee,
and quit selling thier twice roasted, thrice burned, "where the heck
did the flavor go" coffee approximation.
But I'm not holding my breath.
And I'll keep roasting my own. :-)
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Hide all the goats!" - Lisa, Girl's Bravo, English Dub
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April 1999 was when I was there, and pretty much all in Osaka. I saw
one that looked like it dispensed new undies of different varieties in
front of an adult book store in the neighbourhood I stayed in, though.
>>Watson
>>Who hates beer, but did indulge in the coffee vending machines quite a
>>few times.
>
> It'd be wonderful if we had hot canned coffee vending machines here in the
> US. But the Starbucks Empire will NEVER allow it.
Which is a shame, because the canned stuff is much different than
anything Starbucks can come out with.
Watson
Who mostly brews his own, but has Tim Horton's, Bridgehead or Second Cup
when he buys it at shops.
>
>
> Many teen sitcoms/dramas like Saved by the Bell that aired on
>American TV had at least one episode dealing with underage drinking.
>This episode was always very moralistic and always showed the evils of
>teen drinking. Usually this involved drunk driving but sometimes it
>involved thinks like blood alcohol poisoning or sleeping with somebody
>you normally wouldn't. I can't think of any show where the only result
>of underage drinking was that a few teenagers did some really
>embarrasing things.
>
> How many anime depict teenage characters drinking alcohol? Do
>any depict in the moralistic manner that such things are usually
>depicted on American television or is the Kimagure Orange Road rote,
>the worst think that happens is that the drunk teen does something
>embarrasing more common?
>
> Anime with underage drinking that I know of include: Kimagure
>Orange Road and Koko wa Greenwood.
Being an old poop, I don't really identify with current US taboos.
When I was growing up (in Wisconsin-Germans, Swiss andScandinavians),
parents gave the kids beer at a very young age. When some friends and
I got busted for drinking at 15, my dad chewed out the cops. From
there I went into the Navy which at least during the Vietnam era was
sort of a four year long binge when we weren't in the combat zone.
(some guys just switched to pot there.) Don't recall anyone getting
checked for an ID in Yokosuka. (Or any other non-US port for that
matter even though half the guys on the carrier were probably under
21.)
My main recollection of the difference between folks from states with
18 drinking ages and those with 21 was it seemed funny that guys that
old were acting like fools the way we did at a much younger age.
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Anyone who thinks evil mutants are only in
comic books, hasen't raised any children.
To be much more precise, all-gashupon vending machines. Apparently some
do deal out food, and I don't mean peanuts. But I could be misled.
Yeah, that's the big reason I avoid them; I hate the taste of scorched-
earth roast. That, and they're bloody expensive.
> And I'll keep roasting my own. :-)
I'm not that hardcore yet. I'm pretty happy with stuff bought in the
supermarket, and store it in the fridge. It still tastes pretty good
and, most importantly, kicks my ass awake.
You know the industrial band KMFDM, right? My favourite acronym
somebody came up with for their name was "Keine muckefucke fuer die
massen"--"No weak coffee for the masses."
Watson
'My standard order is "large cup of black coffee, hold the pretension".
Gets me dirty looks every time. Fuck 'em. I don't tip for counter
service anyway.'--El Capitan, alt.tasteless, on Starbucks' cup size name
system.
>
> "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" <LostRu...@UofR.SlamSpam.net> wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.44.06070...@uofr.net...
> > > you normally wouldn't. I can't think of any show where the only result
> > > of underage drinking was that a few teenagers did some really
> > > embarrasing things.
> >
> > They did some embarrassing things in "American Pie." ^_^
>
> Yes, but were they DRUNK, or just STUPID? (No, seriously, were they drunk? I
>
They were drunk.
It'd be the only way the guy would... drink... it.... ^_^
>
> absolutely refuse to watch that movie, on the grounds that it's TOO
> lowbrow...all I needed to hear was "dude sticks his dick in a pie" and I
> knew I would never, EVER go ANYWHERE *NEAR* that movie.)
>
Ah, the ad people got ya. Dunno how some anime got past ya. ;)
Give it a shot - it's not Dumb and Dumber.
It's more like the 90's Animal House.
Laters. =)
Stan
I *loathed* Animal House. It's one of the most stupid, pointless, worthless
movies ever made.
>
> "Dave Watson" <aj...@fuspamma.freenet.carleton.ca> wrote in message
> news:e8cpjh$pnd$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...
> > I've heard of all-vending-machine specialty shops in Japan. Sounds
> > nippy, but I wouldn't want to eat dinner there. And no, I didn't see
> > any of the fabled ones that apparently sell used schoolgirls' panties
> > during my visit, but then again, I wasn't really looking for them.
>
> They outlawed the pantsu vendors in 1999. There's still a few in the back
> alleys of the seedier parts of the country, but you're NOT going to find
> them in more well-heeled areas of Tokyo. Hell, I doubt you'll even find them
> in Roppongi.
IIRC, vendors could no longer solicit girls for pantsu,
but if girls would volunteer....
(Buy a 1000 yen pantsu, sell for 10x as much. Stock trading.)
>
> > Watson
> > Who hates beer, but did indulge in the coffee vending machines quite a
> > few times.
>
> It'd be wonderful if we had hot canned coffee vending machines here in the
> US. But the Starbucks Empire will NEVER allow it.
>
Why would you even drink canned coffee?
Some diner coffees are bad enough.... ^_^
Dude, that's just a S.O.P. for a frat partay!
The Japanese have the right mentality for it;
it's a wonder frats and sororities don't take hold there! ^_^
>
>Dude, that's just a S.O.P. for a frat partay!
>The Japanese have the right mentality for it;
>it's a wonder frats and sororities don't take hold there! ^_^
I have wondered. I think it's because Japanese
society expects that when people get a job with
a company after leaving college, they will stay
with that company thereafter. Whereas in the US,
staying with the same company is career poison,
because it's the guys being paid to switch who get
all the opportunities. So the "Circles" of Japanese
college aren't intended to last beyond college;
while a frat serves to provide contacts who can
be worked in the future. Therefore, Circles don't
have the same emphasis on getting people
mixed into criminal behaviour for which they
can be blackmailed later.
-Galen
Don't knock it till you've tried it. To top it off, you can get the
cans either hot or cold from the machines, so it's badass stuff all year
around.
>
> I don't remember how many anime titles do, but more manga titles do. I
> know that in [b]Negima![/b], there are a few drinking incidents in the
> manga but I don't remember if those made it into the anime.
Love Hina manga has Naru getting drunk after they fail their exams, but in
the anime scene she's drinking pints of oolong tea instead.
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>
> "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" <LostRu...@UofR.SlamSpam.net> wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.44.06070...@uofr.net...
> > > absolutely refuse to watch that movie, on the grounds that it's TOO
> > > lowbrow...all I needed to hear was "dude sticks his dick in a pie" and I
> > > knew I would never, EVER go ANYWHERE *NEAR* that movie.)
> >
> > Ah, the ad people got ya. Dunno how some anime got past ya. ;)
> > Give it a shot - it's not Dumb and Dumber.
> > It's more like the 90's Animal House.
>
> I *loathed* Animal House. It's one of the most stupid, pointless, worthless
> movies ever made.
>
Too bad. The movie and campus life aren't for you then. ;)
Sometimes, stupid, pointless, and worthless are the most fun.
Just look at much of anime, like Azumanga Daioh,
the Japanese Seinfeld, a show about nothing. ^_^
Laters. =)
STan
> S.t.A.n.L.e.E wrote:
> > Why would you even drink canned coffee?
> > Some diner coffees are bad enough.... ^_^
>
> Don't knock it till you've tried it. To top it off, you can get the
> cans either hot or cold from the machines, so it's badass stuff all year
> around.
I don't prefer much canned versions of food,
so I doubt that'll change my mind.
Furthermore, I hardly drink coffee,
and I choose wisely on what few coffee I drink. ;p
(Hey, if I'm gonna take advantage of the few times I drink it,
I'm not gonna settle for the cheap ones.)
IIRC, I've read that Japanese campus life just isn't the same as
American campus life with their spacious univs and abundant dorms
where students from all over can socialize much outside of class halls.
Ya can't have frats and sororities without Greek houses too!
(I have to find again where I read these things.)
In Japan, you may get in jail when you drink, drive and cause
an accident. I don't think the Japanese is less careful about
drink and drive. But you don't hear many ads of "don't drink
and drive" on the Japanese stations while FEN (U.S army's
radio in Japan) constantly broadcasts the phrase.
As for umeshu, it's very easy to made.
Put 1.8litres of liquor (35% alcohole), 1.2kg of ume [green
plum] and 1kg of rock sugar in to a glass barrel. Wait for
3 - 6 months. When you drink it, put some ice cubes into
a glass, purr some water and fill the glass with umeshu.
In my case, I drink umeshu prepared last summer. When
serving to children, it should be divided by 4 - 5 times water
plus some sugar. Umeshu is cold sour sweet drink with rich
flavor.
You mean *fraternity* life. You can actually live on a college campus
without engaging in frat crap.
> Sometimes, stupid, pointless, and worthless are the most fun.
> Just look at much of anime, like Azumanga Daioh,
> the Japanese Seinfeld, a show about nothing. ^_^
Yes, but there's passively pointless, and then there's offensively
pointless.
I'd rather have canned coffee than coffee served to me by some bored, angry,
resentful twentysomething Starbucks employee.
The canned coffee, I can at least be reasonably sure hasn't been spit or
pissed in.
>
> "Galen Musbach" <musb...@xtn.net> wrote in message news:mdqka21sp31gdmqr0...@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 21:59:07 +0900, "Manbow Papa"
> > <kis...@parkcity.ne.jp> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"CAH" <cmco...@aol.com> wrote in message news:1151974201.5...@v61g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> >>>I believe the drinking age in Japan is 19 or 20, but it seems to not be
> >>> taken nearly as seriously as in the United States (as I hear you can
> >>> buy beer from a vending machine in Japan)
> >>>
> >>> Pumbaa wrote:
> >>>> The legal drinking age in Japan may be much less than in the United States.
> >>>> A teen might be able to drink legally in Japan. Drinking age used to be
> >>>> eighteen but now it is probably twenty-one in all the States. I seem to
> >>>> remember that in France the age is about sixteen or younger if you are with
> >>>> your family. Anyone here care to update the information?
> >>>
> >>
> >>The Law prohibits anybody under 20 from drinking alcohol.
> >>But a cup of cold umeshu [plum wine] is popular in hot summer
> >>days and parents allow their children drink it. In an episode of
> >>Maison Ikkoku, Obaachan brought her grand son a barrel of
> >>umeshu that she made.
> >
> > Perhaps drinking is less of a concern because the driving
> > age is 18? And most teens don't have cars?
> >
>
> In Japan, you may get in jail when you drink, drive and cause
> an accident. I don't think the Japanese is less careful about
> drink and drive. But you don't hear many ads of "don't drink
> and drive" on the Japanese stations while FEN (U.S army's
> radio in Japan) constantly broadcasts the phrase.
>
Dunno how it is in Japan, but in the US,
a DUI casualty and a civil lawsuit could cause
your family to lose the house.
US courts are not very forgiving about that, bowing or no.
Plus, the loss of the driver's license is more critical
as public transportation is more inconvenient,
especially in less dense areas that make up most of the country.
Laters. =)
STan
> How many anime depict teenage characters drinking alcohol? Do any
> depict in the moralistic manner ?
Well, there's a fair bit of drinking in /Ai Yori Aoshi/, where most of the
principal characters are about nineteen or twenty.
As with the examples others have cited, it is usually done for comedic
effect. In one episode, Tina Foster has a bottle of purple "mystery booze"
so strong that Kaoru passes out after drinking a single glass. Tina gets
wasted on beer, and the two wind up sleeping in the same bed. The purple
booze appears in another episode, where it has the same effect on Miyabi.
(There's also a chapter in the AiAo manga where the 14-year-old Mayu gets
drunk, but again, I believe it was played for laughs.)
>
> "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" <LostRu...@UofR.SlamSpam.net> wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.44.06070...@uofr.net...
> > > I *loathed* Animal House. It's one of the most stupid, pointless,
> worthless
> > > movies ever made.
> >
> > Too bad. The movie and campus life aren't for you then. ;)
>
> You mean *fraternity* life. You can actually live on a college campus
> without engaging in frat crap.
>
No, no, campus life. Frat life is just an extreme of it.
Campus life is still crazy by any standards
when so many diverse personalities converge and mingle.
It's a time when students would do stuff
they wouldn't do at any other time of their lives. ^_^
>
> > Sometimes, stupid, pointless, and worthless are the most fun.
> > Just look at much of anime, like Azumanga Daioh,
> > the Japanese Seinfeld, a show about nothing. ^_^
>
> Yes, but there's passively pointless, and then there's offensively
> pointless.
>
Now, now, you're just grasping at straws. ;-)
>
> "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" <LostRu...@UofR.SlamSpam.net> wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.44.06070...@uofr.net...
> > Tue, 4 Jul 2006 2:38pm-0400,
> aj...@42.141.hiper0-nic0.std.dialup.ncf.ca...:
> > I don't prefer much canned versions of food,
> > so I doubt that'll change my mind.
> > Furthermore, I hardly drink coffee,
> > and I choose wisely on what few coffee I drink. ;p
> > (Hey, if I'm gonna take advantage of the few times I drink it,
> > I'm not gonna settle for the cheap ones.)
>
> I'd rather have canned coffee than coffee served to me by some bored, angry,
> resentful twentysomething Starbucks employee.
>
> The canned coffee, I can at least be reasonably sure hasn't been spit or
> pissed in.
>
With that kind of attitude, you'd be guaranteed. ^_^
Besides, who knows what goes into those cans
or what they've been thru.
Anyways, I choose my places well, like good mom 'n pop stores,
people who I actually talk to.
(Yeah, we try to get to know people around here.
You wouldn't believe the reciprocal latitude in your orders. ^_^; )
>
>In Japan, you may get in jail when you drink, drive and cause
>an accident. I don't think the Japanese is less careful about
>drink and drive. But you don't hear many ads of "don't drink
>and drive" on the Japanese stations while FEN (U.S army's
>radio in Japan) constantly broadcasts the phrase.
Last year, we had an employee who was boasting about
how wasted he was when he outran the cops. (He's not
with us anymore.) The problem I see in America is that
people aren't at all careful about not driving while impaired;
they are only careful about trying not to get caught doing it.
Then again, it's said Greene County was the first in the
nation to institute mandatory jail time for first offense DUI,
so maybe the problem is worse here than it is elsewhere.
-Galen
> In UFO Princess episode 7, the beach party, all
> the catgirls, many of whom are in high school,
> attend a drinking party. One of the Princesses
> gets totally sloshed and wants to do various lewd
> things on stage, but the Chief of Maids won't let her.
> Since she's too young to be on the marriage market,
> she's presumably a teen.
That's Raine, age uncertain and short to boot,
but presumably only a year or two younger than
Valkyrie/Hydra (My guess from the school days
eps.) And Sanada-san couldn't care less what
Raine did on stage... if only she wouldn't assume
Valkyrie's form while doing it. THAT was the
problem :)
>-Galen
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"Anime-style catgirls: Threat? Menace? Or just studying algebra?"
>On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 09:07:17 +0900, "Manbow Papa"
With the druggies and lunatics on the road today, you have to be
smashed to drive in the city.
Manys the night I drove back through Dallas from a jam session in the
wee hours after putting away a six-pack or so and upon observing the
cars upside down on the embankments, straddling the guardrails etc. I
realized I might be the soberest fool out there.
>Tue, 4 Jul 2006 11:23am-0000, The Eternal Lost Lurker <kuraebakayarou.lurke...:
>
>>
>> "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" <LostRu...@UofR.SlamSpam.net> wrote in message
>> news:Pine.LNX.4.44.06070...@uofr.net...
>> > > you normally wouldn't. I can't think of any show where the only result
>> > > of underage drinking was that a few teenagers did some really
>> > > embarrasing things.
>> >
>> > They did some embarrassing things in "American Pie." ^_^
>>
>> Yes, but were they DRUNK, or just STUPID? (No, seriously, were they drunk? I
>>
>
>They were drunk.
>It'd be the only way the guy would... drink... it.... ^_^
>
Now *that* was "pale ale"!
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Alas, they shut those down a long, long time ago buddy.
How old is Yuusuke's mom in Yu Yu Hakusho? She sure is a lush,
A LUSH!
Also Papa san would have a hard time coming to America these days
what w/ the overleazous crackdown on smoking we have anymore.
I don't even smoke, but other people can do anything legal they want to
themselves.
According to Lurker, they were shut down not long after my visit. Then
again, considering that my money was pretty tight over there, too, I
probably wouldn't be able to afford to buy a pair of the mothers anyway.
Probably would have just taken a photo of the machine and moved on.
Besides, even if I could have afforded them, how would I have explained
them to Canada Customs, esp. considering some of the manga they took off me?
Why would you even have WANTED to?
I mean, seriously...they're just scraps of fabric. USED scraps of fabric.
That stink. You have any IDEA how NASTY a woman's cootch can get to
smelling?
Pure novelty value, that's why. Wouldn't even take 'em out of the pack
they'd presumably be in. If people came around asking about visiting
Japan, at one point, I'd hold up the pack and say something like, "Dig
this. Out of a vending machine," and watch the looks on their faces.
As it is, I didn't look for any, didn't find any, and had a great old
time in Osaka anyway.
Watson
Who still hasn't even taken the knicks included with the collector's box
of Najica Blitz Tactics out of their pack--and they're clean.
>
>"Dave Watson" <aj...@fuspamma.freenet.carleton.ca> wrote in message
>news:e8lju6$7an$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...
>> Ethan Hammond wrote:
>> >
>> > Alas, they shut those down a long, long time ago buddy.
>>
>> According to Lurker, they were shut down not long after my visit. Then
>> again, considering that my money was pretty tight over there, too, I
>> probably wouldn't be able to afford to buy a pair of the mothers anyway.
>
>Why would you even have WANTED to?
>
>I mean, seriously...they're just scraps of fabric. USED scraps of fabric.
>That stink. You have any IDEA how NASTY a woman's cootch can get to
>smelling?
Well, for some that's the appeal.
.
.
.
What?
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> Ethan Hammond wrote:
> > "Dave Watson" <aj...@fuspamma.freenet.carleton.ca> wrote in message
> > news:e8cpjh$pnd$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...
> >
> >>S.t.A.n.L.e.E wrote:
> >>
> >>>3 Jul 2006 5:50pm-0700, CAH <cmco...@aol.com>:
> >>
> >>>But you can buy anything from a vending machine in Japan! ^_^
> >>>Who needs to go shopping?
> >>
> >>I've heard of all-vending-machine specialty shops in Japan. Sounds nippy,
> >>but I wouldn't want to eat dinner there. And no, I didn't see any of the
> >>fabled ones that apparently sell used schoolgirls' panties during my
> >>visit, but then again, I wasn't really looking for them.
> >
> > Alas, they shut those down a long, long time ago buddy.
>
> According to Lurker, they were shut down not long after my visit. Then
> again, considering that my money was pretty tight over there, too, I
> probably wouldn't be able to afford to buy a pair of the mothers anyway.
> Probably would have just taken a photo of the machine and moved on.
> Besides, even if I could have afforded them, how would I have explained
> them to Canada Customs, esp. considering some of the manga they took off me?
> --
Just tell them your girlfriend's modesty
just accidentally slipped into your luggage. ^_^
> The Eternal Lost Lurker wrote:
> > "Dave Watson" <aj...@fuspamma.freenet.carleton.ca> wrote in message
> > news:e8lju6$7an$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...
> >
> >>Ethan Hammond wrote:
> >>
> >>>Alas, they shut those down a long, long time ago buddy.
> >>
> >>According to Lurker, they were shut down not long after my visit. Then
> >>again, considering that my money was pretty tight over there, too, I
> >>probably wouldn't be able to afford to buy a pair of the mothers anyway.
> >
> > Why would you even have WANTED to?
> >
> > I mean, seriously...they're just scraps of fabric. USED scraps of fabric.
> > That stink. You have any IDEA how NASTY a woman's cootch can get to
> > smelling?
>
> Pure novelty value, that's why. Wouldn't even take 'em out of the pack
> they'd presumably be in. If people came around asking about visiting
> Japan, at one point, I'd hold up the pack and say something like, "Dig
> this. Out of a vending machine," and watch the looks on their faces.
> As it is, I didn't look for any, didn't find any, and had a great old
> time in Osaka anyway.
>
> Watson
> Who still hasn't even taken the knicks included with the collector's box
> of Najica Blitz Tactics out of their pack--and they're clean.
> --
Probably cheap fabric anyways.
Give it to some gal to whom you want it to disintegrate
at the most inopportune time. ^_^
Simple biological necessity means she pretty much has to be over 25,
and is probably at least 30.
Chris Mattern
laurie
She had Yuusuke when she was 14 (!!) so at the beginning of the series
she's 28.
Chris Mattern
So she has no leverage in the sex ed talk! ^_^
Yep, pretty scary that 1999 is now seven years ago.
>Then again, considering that my money was pretty tight over there, too, I
>probably wouldn't be able to afford to buy a pair of the mothers anyway.
>Probably would have just taken a photo of the machine and moved on.
>Besides, even if I could have afforded them, how would I have explained
>them to Canada Customs, esp. considering some of the manga they took off
>me?
Hmmm....so you would actually buy random girls used underwear from
a vending machine?
Plus they might have had them there STDs!
As a joke to trip other people out with. I've helped a very busy female
friend of mine do her laundry at her apartment laundromat while she's
been doing other things to put her place in order, and I can say with
all honesty that my impulse when I get my hands on a female undergarment
is to--throw it into the washer/dryer/basket as needed (she does the
folding and putting away), just like when I handle my own clothes.
> Ethan Hammond wrote:
> > "Dave Watson" <aj...@fuspamma.freenet.carleton.ca> wrote in message
> > news:e8lju6$7an$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...
> >>Then again, considering that my money was pretty tight over there, too, I
> >>probably wouldn't be able to afford to buy a pair of the mothers anyway.
> >>Probably would have just taken a photo of the machine and moved on.
> >>Besides, even if I could have afforded them, how would I have explained
> >>them to Canada Customs, esp. considering some of the manga they took off
> >>me?
> > Hmmm....so you would actually buy random girls used underwear from
> > a vending machine?
>
> As a joke to trip other people out with. I've helped a very busy female
> friend of mine do her laundry at her apartment laundromat while she's
> been doing other things to put her place in order, and I can say with
> all honesty that my impulse when I get my hands on a female undergarment
> is to--throw it into the washer/dryer/basket as needed (she does the
>
Don't insult her like that! ^_^
> Fri, 7 Jul 2006 4:33pm-0400, Chris Mattern <sys...@gwu.edu>:
>
>> Chris Mattern wrote:
>>> Ethan Hammond wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> How old is Yuusuke's mom in Yu Yu Hakusho? She sure is a lush,
>>>> A LUSH!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Simple biological necessity means she pretty much has to be over 25,
>>> and is probably at least 30.
>>>
>>
>> She had Yuusuke when she was 14 (!!) so at the beginning of the series
>> she's 28.
>>
>
> So she has no leverage in the sex ed talk! ^_^
Yes she does. She could say "The best contraceptive is the word no,
but it is usually the hardest method to use..."
Has she said no, she would surely have been killed.
-Galen
By whom?
Was anything ever said about Yuusuke's actual father? I'm not talking about
Raizen, who seemed to have been during the Warring States Era. He's an
ancestor rather than Yuusuke's direct father.
laurie
>
>"Galen Musbach" <musb...@xtn.net> wrote in message
>news:b690b29o4p3kl0vkv...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 16:07:27 -0500, Bill Martin
>> <bill_r...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2006-07-07 18:45:44 -0500, "S.t.A.n.L.e.E"
>>><LostRu...@UofR.SlamSpam.net> said:
>>>
>>>> Fri, 7 Jul 2006 4:33pm-0400, Chris Mattern <sys...@gwu.edu>:
>>>>
>>>>> Chris Mattern wrote:
>>>>>> Ethan Hammond wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How old is Yuusuke's mom in Yu Yu Hakusho? She sure is a lush,
>>>>>>> A LUSH!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Simple biological necessity means she pretty much has to be over 25,
>>>>>> and is probably at least 30.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> She had Yuusuke when she was 14 (!!) so at the beginning of the series
>>>>> she's 28.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So she has no leverage in the sex ed talk! ^_^
>>>
>>>Yes she does. She could say "The best contraceptive is the word no,
>>>but it is usually the hardest method to use..."
>>
>> Had she said no, she would surely have been killed.
>>
>> -Galen
>
>By whom?
>
>Was anything ever said about Yuusuke's actual father? I'm not talking about
>Raizen, who seemed to have been during the Warring States Era. He's an
>ancestor rather than Yuusuke's direct father.
>
>laurie
>
I haven't actually seen the later episodes, but,
according to what I can remember from the guidebook,
his father was a demon.
-Galen
You're thinking of Raizen, who wasn't his father but his ancestor. Raizen
slept with a woman in the warring states era and got her pregnant and
Yuusuke was his descendent. After meeting the woman, Raizen refused to eat
another human. When Yuusuke entered demon world to follow Sensui and
awakened his own demon powers, Raizen discovered his descendent and made him
an offer he couldn't refuse--to be the heir to his kingdom in demon world.
laurie (In case you can't tell, I love this series!)
>
> "Galen Musbach" <musb...@xtn.net> wrote in message
> news:pfe0b2ln93ond1q51...@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 22:55:52 GMT, "elsie" <lcub...@earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Galen Musbach" <musb...@xtn.net> wrote in message
> >>news:b690b29o4p3kl0vkv...@4ax.com...
> >>> On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 16:07:27 -0500, Bill Martin
> >>> <bill_r...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On 2006-07-07 18:45:44 -0500, "S.t.A.n.L.e.E"
> >>>><LostRu...@UofR.SlamSpam.net> said:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Fri, 7 Jul 2006 4:33pm-0400, Chris Mattern <sys...@gwu.edu>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> She had Yuusuke when she was 14 (!!) so at the beginning of the
> >>>>>> series
> >>>>>> she's 28.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So she has no leverage in the sex ed talk! ^_^
> >>>>
> >>>>Yes she does. She could say "The best contraceptive is the word no,
> >>>>but it is usually the hardest method to use..."
> >>>
> >>> Had she said no, she would surely have been killed.
> >>>
> >>
> >>By whom?
> >>
> >>Was anything ever said about Yuusuke's actual father? I'm not talking
> >>about
> >>Raizen, who seemed to have been during the Warring States Era. He's an
> >>ancestor rather than Yuusuke's direct father.
> >>
> > I haven't actually seen the later episodes, but,
> > according to what I can remember from the guidebook,
> > his father was a demon.
> >
>
> You're thinking of Raizen, who wasn't his father but his ancestor. Raizen
> slept with a woman in the warring states era and got her pregnant and
> Yuusuke was his descendent. After meeting the woman, Raizen refused to eat
> another human. When Yuusuke entered demon world to follow Sensui and
> awakened his own demon powers, Raizen discovered his descendent and made him
> an offer he couldn't refuse--to be the heir to his kingdom in demon world.
>
> laurie (In case you can't tell, I love this series!)
>
Why? It doesn't seem to be your kind of show.
And from its last airing on CN, neither were a lot of Toonami fans. ;)
Laters. =)
STan
>>
>> You're thinking of Raizen, who wasn't his father but his ancestor. Raizen
>> slept with a woman in the warring states era and got her pregnant and
>> Yuusuke was his descendent. After meeting the woman, Raizen refused to
>> eat
>> another human. When Yuusuke entered demon world to follow Sensui and
>> awakened his own demon powers, Raizen discovered his descendent and made
>> him
>> an offer he couldn't refuse--to be the heir to his kingdom in demon
>> world.
>>
>> laurie (In case you can't tell, I love this series!)
>>
>
> Why? It doesn't seem to be your kind of show.
> And from its last airing on CN, neither were a lot of Toonami fans. ;)
>
Maybe it's due to a childhood love of The Three Musketeers, but I have a
great fondness for shonen fighting shows, and I like the characters.
Actually, in some ways, Yusuke's band matches up well to D'Artagnan and the
musketeers: Yusuke as D'Artagnan, Kuwabara as Porthos, Kurama as Aramis and
Hiei as Athos. Besides, it's a good show to watch when I'm mad at people.
:-)
> Laters. =)
>
> STan
> --
laurie
Goddammit, Stan, stop trying to tell other people what they do and don't
like.
laurie
>
> "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" <LostRu...@UofR.SlamSpam.net> wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.44.060708...@uofr.net...
> > Sun, 9 Jul 2006 12:18am-0000, elsie <lcub...@earthlink.net>:
> > > laurie (In case you can't tell, I love this series!)
> >
> > Why? It doesn't seem to be your kind of show.
> > And from its last airing on CN, neither were a lot of Toonami fans. ;)
>
> Goddammit, Stan, stop trying to tell other people what they do and don't
> like.
>
I believe that was a question, not a command. ;-p
Laters. =)
Stan
>
I don't know about the manga, but the anime never touches it. I
don't think teen parents keep in touch in real-life when they get
older (reminders of past mistakes), so these two should be no
exception . . .
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Well I mean I could understand if you were buying bras!
GYA HA HA HA!
I dunno about doing other people's laundry though.
Nah, they're just repressing it. Even countries like France, which we tend
to see as having an enlightened attitude, ends up having to deal with
alcoholism as an issue.
laurie
Which was always funny to me, as I grew up in a family in which alcohol was
taboo for *everyone*, not just the kids. Somewhere I have temperance
songbooks I inherited from my grandmother. Nobody in my family drinks
alcohol, so I have no desire to.
laurie
My Mom had a brother who died from alcoholism, so she was very strict
about us kids having anything to do with booze. I've had various
drinks, since I got out of college, and even got nearly puking drunk
one time, just to see what it was like. I've had a beer once or twice
a year since then, and no real desire to keep going with it.
And you want to talk taboo about alcohol, just try to offer a drink to
one of the followers of The Prophet. Muslims make Southern Baptists
look like hedonists when it comes to prohibition.
Cap.
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My aunt and uncle liked to go on bus tours, and one year they went
somewhere, St. Louis I think, where the tour included the Anheiser-Busch
factory. My grandmother was absolutely horrified at the thought they might
have had a sample while they were there.
laurie
That and 16 year old teenagers don't usually get a car for there birthday
in Japan. Being drunk and riding the subway train home isn't quite the
same taking your life in your hands and putting everyone else at risk
experience.
Although Japan does have the higher youth suicide rate so apparently
the presumed less restrictive view of drinking doesn't help relax them
any.
Besides, drinking after work with your boss and coworkers is
pretty much a job requirement there, so need plenty of practice.
Just don't miss the last train - it's not a 24-hr subway! ^_^
Laters. =)
STan