Gankutsuou - The Count of Monte Cristo
Phil Yff
setting, it provided the Count of Monte Cristo with an SF facelift. There
are quite a few innovations in Gankutsou, ‘Cave King’ - the official name
given to the Japanese translation of Dumas’s novel.
One of the most noticeable aspects of the anime is the use of computer
generated textures that move in a 3D manner when the characters move. The
texture designs are visually striking. A well-known international fashion
designer, Anna Sui, designed the costumes in the final episode.
In my opinion this works. It’s a device that imparts an otherworldly
atmosphere and allows you to suspend your disbelief regarding medieval
customs in an environment some 3000 years in the future.
The point of view in the anime is changed from the novel. The Count is a
figure of mystery whom we learn about largely through the eyes of Albert,
the son of one of the people who betrayed him.
I feel this, too, is successful. In the novel, we empathize completely
with the Count. In the anime, our feelings are more ambivalent. On the one
hand, we are aware of the injustices suffered by the Count. On the other
hand, we have sympathies towards Albert who, in many ways, is the
protagonist of the anime. This ambiguity is quite appropriate for a
twenty-first century viewer watching an anime set in the fifty-first
century.
What do you think? What are your takes on plot, character, art, setting,
etc?
Mata ato de,
Phil Yff
「ゲーム…そう、ゲームです。我々自身の人生も、
誰か別の人間のゲームでもて遊ばれている……
Geimu… Sou, geimu desu. Wareware jishin no jinsei mo,
Dareka betsu no ningen no geimu de moteasobareteiru.
Game… Yes, it’s a game. An amusing game played with
Our own lives and those of other human beings.
Gankutsuou – Count of Monte Cristo
Dave Baranyi
"Phil Yff" <phil...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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>A few months after Studio Gonzo transposed Samurai Seven to a futuristic
> setting, it provided the Count of Monte Cristo with an SF facelift. There
> are quite a few innovations in Gankutsou, 'Cave King' - the official name
> given to the Japanese translation of Dumas's novel.
>
> One of the most noticeable aspects of the anime is the use of computer
> generated textures that move in a 3D manner when the characters move. The
> texture designs are visually striking. A well-known international fashion
> designer, Anna Sui, designed the costumes in the final episode.
>
> In my opinion this works. It's a device that imparts an otherworldly
> atmosphere and allows you to suspend your disbelief regarding medieval
> customs in an environment some 3000 years in the future.
>
> The point of view in the anime is changed from the novel. The Count is a
> figure of mystery whom we learn about largely through the eyes of Albert,
> the son of one of the people who betrayed him.
>
> I feel this, too, is successful. In the novel, we empathize completely
> with the Count. In the anime, our feelings are more ambivalent. On the
> one
> hand, we are aware of the injustices suffered by the Count. On the other
> hand, we have sympathies towards Albert who, in many ways, is the
> protagonist of the anime. This ambiguity is quite appropriate for a
> twenty-first century viewer watching an anime set in the fifty-first
> century.
>
> What do you think? What are your takes on plot, character, art, setting,
> etc?
>
I loved the beginning of the series but grew to hate the series with an
"undying passion" by the end. My rating on the series went from A at the
beginning to F by the "anticlimax". (You can read the shift of my opinions
in my posts that I posted here on r.a.a.m. during the original broadcast. I
felt that the change to the plot and characters was a total waste of a great
opportunity to do justice to one of the great all time stories.
Dave Baranyi
HidariMak
> A few months after Studio Gonzo transposed Samurai Seven to a futuristic
> setting, it provided the Count of Monte Cristo with an SF facelift. There
> are quite a few innovations in Gankutsou, 'Cave King' - the official name
> given to the Japanese translation of Dumas's novel.
>
> One of the most noticeable aspects of the anime is the use of computer
> generated textures that move in a 3D manner when the characters move. The
> texture designs are visually striking. A well-known international fashion
> designer, Anna Sui, designed the costumes in the final episode.
The use of CG textures was one of my big complaints with the series, to
be honest. What made it all jarring was that I couldn't see any
attempt at adding shading or cohesiveness with the image depth; you'd
see two or three patterned pieces of paper sliding over each other in
changing shapes for a supposed 3D view. If the image was applied to a
door or tapestry and its angle was changing, the shape would change
from a rectangle to a trapezoid for example, but the pattern wouldn't
change or even move.
The characters, plot, etc. failed to really grab my interest, and the
only reason I hung on for 4 or 5 episodes was due to others saying how
great the series was. I just couldn't see it. My guess is that if you
rent the first DVD, you'd have a pretty good idea whether you'll love
or hate the entire series.
Abraham Evangelista
You actually failed this one? I don't recall you ever failing a show
before!
>Dave Baranyi
>
--
"Oh no! look over there! How did a Chupacabra get into the house? Quick!
Hide all the goats!" - Lisa, Girl's Bravo, English Dub
Abraham Evangelista
Phil Yff
> I loved the beginning of the series but grew to hate the series with an
> "undying passion" by the end. My rating on the series went from A at the
> beginning to F by the "anticlimax". (You can read the shift of my opinions
> in my posts that I posted here on r.a.a.m. during the original broadcast. I
> felt that the change to the plot and characters was a total waste of a great
> opportunity to do justice to one of the great all time stories.
Since you loved it at the beginning and grew to hate it are you saying that
you liked the style and artistic techniques but disliked the change to the
plot and characters?
Mata ato de,
Phil Yff
どうか・・・覚えて・・・いて・・・ほしい・・・・・・
私の・・・名前は・・・エドモン・・・ダンテス
Dou ka… Oboete… Ite … Hoshii……
Watashi no… Namae wa… Edomon… Dantesu
Somehow… My wish… is… Remembering……
My… Name is… Edmond… Dantes
Phil Yff
> The use of CG textures was one of my big complaints with the series, to
> be honest. What made it all jarring was that I couldn't see any
> attempt at adding shading or cohesiveness with the image depth; you'd
> see two or three patterned pieces of paper sliding over each other in
> changing shapes for a supposed 3D view. If the image was applied to a
> door or tapestry and its angle was changing, the shape would change
> from a rectangle to a trapezoid for example, but the pattern wouldn't
> change or even move.
>
> The characters, plot, etc. failed to really grab my interest, and the
> only reason I hung on for 4 or 5 episodes was due to others saying how
> great the series was. I just couldn't see it. My guess is that if you
> rent the first DVD, you'd have a pretty good idea whether you'll love
> or hate the entire series.
I can certainly understand your position. I found the textures to be very
disconcerting at first. The movement of the textures in the outlines was
distracting to say the least. It was only later that I was able to immerse
myself in the atmosphere that was being created by these and other artistic
techniques.
Mata ato de,
Phil Yff
裏切りの果実はつみ取られなければならない・・・
Uragiri no kajitsu wa tsumitorarenakereba naranai…
I must pluck the fruit of betrayal…
Dave Baranyi
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:28:06 -0400, Dave Baranyi wrote:
>
>> I loved the beginning of the series but grew to hate the series with an
>> "undying passion" by the end. My rating on the series went from A at the
>> beginning to F by the "anticlimax". (You can read the shift of my
>> opinions
>> in my posts that I posted here on r.a.a.m. during the original broadcast.
>> I
>> felt that the change to the plot and characters was a total waste of a
>> great
>> opportunity to do justice to one of the great all time stories.
>
> Since you loved it at the beginning and grew to hate it are you saying
> that
> you liked the style and artistic techniques but disliked the change to the
> plot and characters?
>
Exactly! I thought that the idea of starting at the "Carnival of Rome" was
great, and the baroque background and costume designs were spectacular. But
I didn't like the focus upon Albert as the protagonist, and once the rest of
the characters started to be changed I started to get discouraged. But it
was the major changes to the plot and character relationships that I really
disliked. The ending seemed to be there solely to provide an excuse for
Gonzo to use up their 3DCG budget, and the anticlimax in the final episode
struck me as a waste of time.
Essentially, the Gonzo adaptation totally lost the ending message of
"Redemption/Salvation" that made the novel something other than a serialized
potboiler. By focussing upon the revenge and making most everyone "insane"
the story lost all depth of characterization and the story lost its point.
Dave Baranyi
> Mata ato de,
>
> Phil Yff
>
> ??????????????????????????
> ?????????????????????????
>
> Dou ka. Oboete. Ite . Hoshii..
> Watashi no. Namae wa. Edomon. Dantesu
>
> Somehow. My wish. is. Remembering..
> My. Name is. Edmond. Dantes
>
> Gankutsuou - Count of Monte Cristo
>
Dave Baranyi
"Abraham Evangelista" <da...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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It's rare that I fail a show that I watch all the way through. Probably the
only other one was "Glue Bender" ("Blue Gender").
Dave Baranyi
Phil Yff
> It's rare that I fail a show that I watch all the way through. Probably the
> only other one was "Glue Bender" ("Blue Gender").
I did manage to watch Blue Gender all the way through but it grew very
tedious towards the end. Speaking of tedious, one show I gave up on after
the sixth or seventh episode was Earth Girl Arjuna. I didn't object to the
theme but the show got so heavy handed, I put it away for later and that
was over three years ago.
Mata ato de,
Phil Yff
救いなんていらない!
Sukui nante iranai!
I don’t need to be ‘rescued’!
Galen Musbach
wrote:
>Speaking of tedious, one show I gave up on after
>the sixth or seventh episode was Earth Girl Arjuna.
Man Cites Nature As Inspiration For Random Cruelty
June 29, 2005 | Issue 41•26, The Onion
GAINESVILLE, FL—
Local resident Stephen Nicolai, 34, said Monday that the harsh
realities of the natural world are what inspire him to commit
spontaneous acts of brutal sadism. "Nature, red in tooth and claw,
destroys without prejudice or regard for feelings, and since I am at
one with nature, so too shall I," said Nicolai as he flattened a tree
frog with a ball-peen hammer. "When I witness the awesome force of a
tsunami, or the shift of a tectonic plate, or even a kitten
mercilessly taunting its prey before eating it, I know that I am in
harmony with nature." Nicolai said he has found peace through his
ritual animal torture and vicious braining of random passersby.
More News Briefs
Phil Yff
> "Phil Yff" <phil...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
>> Since you loved it at the beginning and grew to hate it are you saying
>> that
>> you liked the style and artistic techniques but disliked the change to the
>> plot and characters?
>>
>
> Exactly! I thought that the idea of starting at the "Carnival of Rome" was
> great, and the baroque background and costume designs were spectacular. But
> I didn't like the focus upon Albert as the protagonist, and once the rest of
> the characters started to be changed I started to get discouraged. But it
> was the major changes to the plot and character relationships that I really
> disliked. The ending seemed to be there solely to provide an excuse for
> Gonzo to use up their 3DCG budget, and the anticlimax in the final episode
> struck me as a waste of time.
>
> Essentially, the Gonzo adaptation totally lost the ending message of
> "Redemption/Salvation" that made the novel something other than a serialized
> potboiler. By focussing upon the revenge and making most everyone "insane"
> the story lost all depth of characterization and the story lost its point.
Unfortunately, there are quite a few series that fizzle out. Either the
staff loses its passion or creative minds on the staff are replaced by
hacks. There were indications throughout the series that the director
understood the redemption/salvation theme and then failed to bring things
to a crescendo at the end.
Mata ato de,
Phil Yff
もうひとつ… 毒に魅入られた女は美しい
Mou hitotsu… Doku ni miirareta onna wa utsukushii
Yet another thing…A woman who is fascinated with poison is beautiful
Phil Yff
> "Phil Yff" <phil...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:1n3hashqiqm0a$.blmf95pe11w1.dlg@40tude.net...
>> Since you loved it at the beginning and grew to hate it are you saying
>> that
>> you liked the style and artistic techniques but disliked the change to the
>> plot and characters?
>>
>
> Exactly! I thought that the idea of starting at the "Carnival of Rome" was
> great, and the baroque background and costume designs were spectacular. But
> I didn't like the focus upon Albert as the protagonist, and once the rest of
> the characters started to be changed I started to get discouraged. But it
> was the major changes to the plot and character relationships that I really
> disliked. The ending seemed to be there solely to provide an excuse for
> Gonzo to use up their 3DCG budget, and the anticlimax in the final episode
> struck me as a waste of time.
>
> Essentially, the Gonzo adaptation totally lost the ending message of
> "Redemption/Salvation" that made the novel something other than a serialized
> potboiler. By focussing upon the revenge and making most everyone "insane"
> the story lost all depth of characterization and the story lost its point.
What are your feelings toward Gonzo's Samurai Seven assuming you've watched
it. Both plot and character are more faithful to the original than with
Gankutsuou.
Dave Baranyi
I hated Samurai Seven too, but I stopped watching it after the first
episode. Giant spaceships "stealing" rice, "cute" robots, "cute" kids (Where
is W.C. Fields when you need him?) - if there was a "wrong" button that a
series could push for me in the first episode, Samurai Seven pushed it.
I do like some Gonzo works, but not many recently.
Cheers -
Dave Baranyi
Dave Baranyi
> On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:50:29 -0400, Dave Baranyi wrote:
>
>> It's rare that I fail a show that I watch all the way through. Probably
>> the
>> only other one was "Glue Bender" ("Blue Gender").
>
> I did manage to watch Blue Gender all the way through but it grew very
> tedious towards the end. Speaking of tedious, one show I gave up on after
> the sixth or seventh episode was Earth Girl Arjuna. I didn't object to
> the
> theme but the show got so heavy handed, I put it away for later and that
> was over three years ago.
>
This is where it is very, very useful to get people posting different points
of view and different opinions here on r.a.a.m. For example, "Arjuna" is one
of my all-time favorite anime series. I really cared for the characters, so
the eco-politics didn't bother me. (I'm a chemist by profession, so I found
it interesting to see where the science was reasonable, and where it was
fantasy. BTW - Arjuna came out on the 20th anniversary of the first US
patent for oil-eating bacteria...)
Cheers -
Dave Baranyi
> Mata ato de,
>
> Phil Yff
>
> ?????????!
> Sukui nante iranai!
> I don't need to be 'rescued'!
Phil Yff
> I hated Samurai Seven too, but I stopped watching it after the first
> episode. Giant spaceships "stealing" rice, "cute" robots, "cute" kids (Where
> is W.C. Fields when you need him?) - if there was a "wrong" button that a
> series could push for me in the first episode, Samurai Seven pushed it.
>
> I do like some Gonzo works, but not many recently.
>
> Cheers -
>
> Dave Baranyi
I would prefer that Gonzo spent their big budgets on something original.
Maybe they think piggy backing off a known commodity reduces their risk.
Samurai Seven was heavily marketed. I don't think Gankutsuou was hyped as
much. The question is are they making or losing money.
I actually prefer something like Naruto that is successful on a much lower
budget.
Juan F. Lara
Dave Baranyi <a_nospam.b_nospam@sym_nos_p_am_atico.ca> wrote:
>I hated Samurai Seven too, but I stopped watching it after the first
>episode. Giant spaceships "stealing" rice, "cute" robots, "cute" kids (Where
>is W.C. Fields when you need him?) - if there was a "wrong" button that a
>series could push for me in the first episode, Samurai Seven pushed it.
"Samurai Seven" has some good production values. But I agree with Dave in
that the show is about as conventional as you can get. Why on Earth is THIS
show on the Independent Film Channel? Isn't the IFC meant for imaginative and
unusual filmmaking. "Boogiepop Phantom" or "Paranoia Agent" or even "Elfen
Lied" might make sense on the IFC. But "Samurai Seven"? "Let's remake 'The
Seven Samurai'. With mechas. Make sure to have the bare midriff babe for
fanboys, the comic relief robot for the kids, the silent loner for the yaoi
crowd, and the cute kid sister for the loli fans." Yeesh. :-P
- Juan F. Lara
Phil Yff
> "Samurai Seven" has some good production values. But I agree with Dave in
> that the show is about as conventional as you can get. Why on Earth is THIS
> show on the Independent Film Channel? Isn't the IFC meant for imaginative and
> unusual filmmaking. "Boogiepop Phantom" or "Paranoia Agent" or even "Elfen
> Lied" might make sense on the IFC. But "Samurai Seven"? "Let's remake 'The
> Seven Samurai'. With mechas. Make sure to have the bare midriff babe for
> fanboys, the comic relief robot for the kids, the silent loner for the yaoi
> crowd, and the cute kid sister for the loli fans." Yeesh. :-P
Probably because of all the hype. It's almost as if Gonzo spent as
much money marketing the show as they did making it.
Travers
> The point of view in the anime is changed from the novel. The Count is a
> figure of mystery whom we learn about largely through the eyes of Albert,
> the son of one of the people who betrayed him.
>
> I feel this, too, is successful. In the novel, we empathize completely
> with the Count. In the anime, our feelings are more ambivalent. On the one
> hand, we are aware of the injustices suffered by the Count. On the other
> hand, we have sympathies towards Albert who, in many ways, is the
> protagonist of the anime. This ambiguity is quite appropriate for a
> twenty-first century viewer watching an anime set in the fifty-first
> century.
I haven't seen it yet, but did you read the _abridged_ Count of Monte
Cristo? In the unabridged version, after the Dante escapes, the point of
view shifts to Albert (mostly) with interludes as the mysterious Count
does his other "errands". And you empathize with Albert so completely
that, by the end, you're just begging Dumas not to kill the poor kid!
Also, in the last 1/4 of the book, the Count gets some good revenge, but
he realises he might have gone too far when innocents & Albert begin to
suffer unnecesarily and Mercedes' blows him off as not being the man she
knew. In short, one begins to feel ambivalently to Dante by the end.
I'm curious to see how well/badly the anime handles this.
--
----
Travers Naran, tna...@gmail.com
"It's only hubris if I fail."
-- Julius Ceasar, HBO's _Rome_
Phil Yff
> I haven't seen it yet, but did you read the _abridged_ Count of Monte
> Cristo? In the unabridged version, after the Dante escapes, the point of
> view shifts to Albert (mostly) with interludes as the mysterious Count
> does his other "errands". And you empathize with Albert so completely
> that, by the end, you're just begging Dumas not to kill the poor kid!
> Also, in the last 1/4 of the book, the Count gets some good revenge, but
> he realises he might have gone too far when innocents & Albert begin to
> suffer unnecesarily and Mercedes' blows him off as not being the man she
> knew. In short, one begins to feel ambivalently to Dante by the end.
>
> I'm curious to see how well/badly the anime handles this.
I believe the final volume will be released in just a couple of months in
the US.
Mata ato de,
Phil Yff
「さようなら。アルベール」
Sayounara. Arubeeru
Good bye. Albert.
Aya the Vampire Slayer
>if there was a "wrong" button that a series could push for me in the
>first episode, Samurai Seven pushed it.
As well as Simoun, ne? I can hardly remember a more venom-filled review
than your review of Simoun ep1... ^_^;;;
--
"Care must be exorcised when handring Opiticar System as it is apts to
be sticked by dusts and hand-fat." --Japanese Translators
"Keep your fingers off the lens." --Elton Byington, English Translator
Phil Yff
> This is where it is very, very useful to get people posting different points
> of view and different opinions here on r.a.a.m. For example, "Arjuna" is one
> of my all-time favorite anime series. I really cared for the characters, so
> the eco-politics didn't bother me. (I'm a chemist by profession, so I found
> it interesting to see where the science was reasonable, and where it was
> fantasy. BTW - Arjuna came out on the 20th anniversary of the first US
> patent for oil-eating bacteria...)
I liked the couple of episodes maybe more. I did find Arjuna to be a
sympathetic character. I like other anime with environmental themes so
that was not so much the issue. This is probably not the best way to
express it but it got just a little to shrill for me. So when it came time
to exchange a DVD, instead of continuing on with Arjuna, I moved on to
something else. I had intended at some point to go back and see how it
ended, but I've just never got around to it.
Phil Yff
> en handring Opiticar System as it is apts to
> be sticked by dusts and hand-fat." --Japanese Translators
>
> "Keep your fingers off the lens." --Elton Byington, English Translator
Sounds like Dave does reviews. I've got to keep an eye out for them.
Dave Watson
Google for them (Groups search, RAAM, My Take in subject, Baranyi in
author) to see the ones he's posted here so far.
--
Dave Watson, Severed Heads Liberation Front (Stretcher CD-R--sevcom.com)
Frezier Balzoff (aka Ottawa), Ontario, Canada Email--shlf[at]ncf[dot]ca
(Remember to remove the spamtrap word before E-mailing a reply.)
My music and anime webpage: http://eyevocal.ottawa-anime.org/
Yvette Watson, 1942-2002--You will be greatly missed and always loved.
Craig Hall, 1975-2005--Good friend and kindred wild spirit.
Kill worms!! http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/
Dave Baranyi
"Aya the Vampire Slayer" <ry...@gehennom.rmv.this.part.net> wrote in message
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> Dave Baranyi <a_nospam.b_nospam@sym_nos_p_am_atico.ca> wa:
>>if there was a "wrong" button that a series could push for me in the
>>first episode, Samurai Seven pushed it.
>
> As well as Simoun, ne? I can hardly remember a more venom-filled review
> than your review of Simoun ep1... ^_^;;;
>
Ah, you ought to search r.a.a.m. back in late 2002 when I did my reviews on
the first three episodes of "Saikano". My comments on episode 2 of Saikano
remain among my personal favorites of all the hatchet jobs I've ever done,
oops I mean reviews, of anime. <LOL>
Thanks -
Dave Baranyi
Dave Watson
> "Aya the Vampire Slayer" <ry...@gehennom.rmv.this.part.net> wrote in message
> news:e9ijlv$pbs$1...@news-int.gatech.edu...
>
>>Dave Baranyi <a_nospam.b_nospam@sym_nos_p_am_atico.ca> wa:
>>
>>>if there was a "wrong" button that a series could push for me in the
>>>first episode, Samurai Seven pushed it.
>>
>>As well as Simoun, ne? I can hardly remember a more venom-filled review
>>than your review of Simoun ep1... ^_^;;;
>>
>
>
> Ah, you ought to search r.a.a.m. back in late 2002 when I did my reviews on
> the first three episodes of "Saikano". My comments on episode 2 of Saikano
> remain among my personal favorites of all the hatchet jobs I've ever done,
> oops I mean reviews, of anime. <LOL>
* Googles. Finds it. Is impressed by the thorough evisceration. And
*likes* SaiKano. Just won't buy the R1's because of the company who
released them. And just what the hell is with their attempt at a
stripbox for it, which puts all 13 episodes on a two DVD set and sells
it for--$80? That is not a mistype--eighty stinking dollars. ADV's
stripboxes suck hard enough, but this does it through an industrial
sewage pump.
Thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.anime.misc/browse_frm/thread/f14664467e806db5/b132eba84bc5869a?lnk=st&q=group%3Arec.arts.anime.misc+insubject%3ASaikano+author%3ABaranyi&rnum=3&hl=en#b132eba84bc5869a
or http://tinyurl.com/e5jal
Saikano Stripbox:
http://www.rightstuf.com/cgi-bin/catalogmgr/q9F-gwtGHEwnFtK6vj/browse/item/66908/4/0/0
or http://tinyurl.com/j6hn4
Phil Yff
> Watson, 1942-2002--You will be greatly missed and always loved.
> Craig Hall, 1975-2005--Good friend and kindred wild spirit.
> Kill worms!! http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/
I would do that but I'm still trying to catch up with the current stuff.
Phil Yff
> Ah, you ought to search r.a.a.m. back in late 2002 when I did my reviews on
> the first three episodes of "Saikano". My comments on episode 2 of Saikano
> remain among my personal favorites of all the hatchet jobs I've ever done,
> oops I mean reviews, of anime. <LOL>
I'll check it out. I've watched a lot of anime and had many opportunities
to pick up Saikano but for some reason never decided to get into it. It
will be good to see what I missed or did not miss.
Phil Yff
> Dave Baranyi wrote:
>> "Aya the Vampire Slayer" <ry...@gehennom.rmv.this.part.net> wrote in message
>> news:e9ijlv$pbs$1...@news-int.gatech.edu...
>>
>>>Dave Baranyi <a_nospam.b_nospam@sym_nos_p_am_atico.ca> wa:
>>>
>>>>if there was a "wrong" button that a series could push for me in the
>>>>first episode, Samurai Seven pushed it.
>>>
>>>As well as Simoun, ne? I can hardly remember a more venom-filled review
>>>than your review of Simoun ep1... ^_^;;;
>>>
>>
>>
>> Ah, you ought to search r.a.a.m. back in late 2002 when I did my reviews on
>> the first three episodes of "Saikano". My comments on episode 2 of Saikano
>> remain among my personal favorites of all the hatchet jobs I've ever done,
>> oops I mean reviews, of anime. <LOL>
>
> * Googles. Finds it. Is impressed by the thorough evisceration. And
> *likes* SaiKano. Just won't buy the R1's because of the company who
> released them. And just what the hell is with their attempt at a
> stripbox for it, which puts all 13 episodes on a two DVD set and sells
> it for--$80? That is not a mistype--eighty stinking dollars. ADV's
> stripboxes suck hard enough, but this does it through an industrial
> sewage pump.
$80?? ADV certainly has no consistency. I bought their Chrono Crusade
thin pack set for less than half that and it had 24 episodes.
Dave Watson
It's Viz Video who's releasing Saikano. While ADV are doing a lot of
things that cheese me off, Viz are the ones in my doghouse. To be fair,
if ADV were doing the Saikano stripbox, it would be three discs and cost
much less than $80.
Phil Yff
> It's Viz Video who's releasing Saikano. While ADV are doing a lot of
> things that cheese me off, Viz are the ones in my doghouse. To be fair,
> if ADV were doing the Saikano stripbox, it would be three discs and cost
> much less than $80.
That sounds more like it. I've seen a lot of very reasonable deals from
ADV including the platinum set of Evangelion for less than $60.