[OT] Got any favorite non-anime/manga artist?
Jae Choi
have any favorite non-anime/manga artist. I came to the state when I
was 20 (so that's 7 years ago) and believed that manga/anime is
superior than US comic/cartoon.
Well, thing started to change when I found some comicbooks in a
public library. (I lived in Silicon Valley and the libraries out there
had sizable sections of comicbooks and Star Trek-related
books...unlike other places) I was exposed to the styles of Jeff
Smith, Alex Ross and Hernandez brothers first place.
Back in Korea I stumbled upon some X-men comicbooks buy that Joe Mad
guy and several Batman and Conan comicbooks. Also I browsed through
Frank Miller's Ronin. But I really didn't give that much attention to
them. But Jeff Smith's Bone was a real eye-opener and I was stunned by
the artworks of Alex Ross. I wondered who this guy was. I read Madman
and Love & Rocket series by Hernandez brothers. But my perspective
didn't really change until I started my formal art education. In fact
my perspective started changing well after I began to study art. I was
exposed to a number of great classical artists like Norman Rockwell,
John Singer Sargent, Anders Zorn, Jean Leon Gerome, Lord Leighton and
so on. Also I was inspired by modern illustrators like James Gurney
(of Dinotopia) and Gregory Manchess.
But the real change happened when I found Adam Hughes and Frank Cho.
(both of these guys didn't have formal art education. Adam Hughes
didn't go to college and Frank Cho was a nursing major) I was really
challenged by their depiction of female characters. Since then I
decided to draw beautiful female characters with realism.
So, how about you?
Disruptor
Jae Choi wrote:
> After posting that EE cup post, I happen to wonder if any of you guys
> have any favorite non-anime/manga artist. I came to the state when I
> was 20 (so that's 7 years ago) and believed that manga/anime is
> superior than US comic/cartoon.
>
> So, how about you?
Alex Toth(character designer for the cartoons: Bionic 6, Young Samson,
Space Ghost, Galaxy Rangers, Superfriends, Superboy, Galaxy Trio, and so
on.)
The Man of Two Worlds: Julius Schwartz.
Fish Eye no Miko
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> But the real change happened when I found Adam Hughes
> and Frank Cho. (both of these guys didn't have formal art
> education. Adam Hughes didn't go to college and Frank
> Cho was a nursing major) I was really challenged by their
> depiction of female characters. Since then I decided to
> draw beautiful female characters with realism.
Stop calling it "realistic", dammit.
If you want "realism", you wouldn't be following other artists, you'd be
looking at REAL WOMEN and drawing THEM.
Catherine Johnson.
--
fenm at cox dot net
"*Don't* scare the cripple. My fight or flight reflex is very confused."
-Kevin Girardi, _Joan of Arcadia_.
Eric Schwartz
> So, how about you?
Tough to call. I love Keith Haring, but his art is so vibrant, I have
a hard time sharing it with anything else in my life. Tolouse-Lautrec
is another favourite, as are Mondrian and Vermeer.
As for myself, I can't even draw a realistic-looking stick figure.
-=Eric
--
Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million
typewriters, and Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare.
-- Blair Houghton.
Eric Schwartz
> Stop calling it "realistic", dammit.
"If I want realism, I'll take a photograph" -- some artist I can't remember.
> If you want "realism", you wouldn't be following other artists, you'd be
> looking at REAL WOMEN and drawing THEM.
If you want "realism", you shouldn't be an artist, IMSNSHO. Now that
we have cameras, I personally feel art should be about interpreting
life, not documenting it.
Me, I have no problem with arists who like to draw the zaftig-- I hear
it's more interesting technically, and I grew up on Frank Franzetta
and that crowd, as I imagine many other fen did. There is a market
for that sort of thing, and if you like to draw it, and are good at
it, you can probably sell stuff.
Personally, I see no problem with applying the word 'realistic' to
your art if you draw large-breasted women as they are. The objections
raised by Catharine & co. are based on the idea that 'realistic'
applies to your preference for drawing large-breasted women, which is
something you're either going to have to get used to, or pick another
term for.
Relic
> So, how about you?
Well, I am pretty old-school, so I would probably not know much about the
artists after, say, 1990, in the US, at least. I have been a fan of Alphonse
Maria Mucha (popularizer of the Art Noveau movement of the late 1880s
to about 1920; a blend of the European art aesthetics with the more fluid
Japanese
art that had made a tour in Europe about 1885) for many years. Norman
Rockwell
has a charming quality as well. On the comics front, my favorite American
artists
would include Jack Kirby (of course) and Steve Ditko (especially his Dr.
Strange and
black/white Warren work; perhaps the best wash work I have ever seen, at
least on a
par with Alex Toth in terms of wash). Will Eisner, Harvey Kurtzman, Neal
Adams,
virtually all the mainline EC crew, Jack Cole...I could go on and on here.
If one would count so-called "Amerimanga" artists, that would include Adam
Warren, Ben Dunn
and Fred Perry (perhaps the most consistently fun artist/writer in the
movement).
Abraham Evangelista
>
> So, how about you?
I'm a huge fan of Impressionist and Post Impressionist art in general,
and Degas and Monet in particular.
But I'll bet this wasn't the answer you were looking for. :-)
Jae Choi
> "Jae Choi" <jaepet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> > But the real change happened when I found Adam Hughes
> > and Frank Cho. (both of these guys didn't have formal art
> > education. Adam Hughes didn't go to college and Frank
> > Cho was a nursing major) I was really challenged by their
> > depiction of female characters. Since then I decided to
> > draw beautiful female characters with realism.
>
> Stop calling it "realistic", dammit.
> If you want "realism", you wouldn't be following other artists, you'd be
> looking at REAL WOMEN and drawing THEM.
>
> Catherine Johnson.
Oh, well. They look pretty real to me. :D
(Seen too many photos of Russian girls with Cho-sized knockers.)
Chibi-Light
Cal Shenkel, did a bunch of Frank Zappa album covers
Salvidor Dali (whch I probably mispelled), he's the melting clock guy.
paranormalized
wrote:
Rule #69 for artists and writers:
Porn *aint* realistic...
Jonathan Fisher
otoh, we *could* discuss how many people have real-life kawaii
shimmering eyes, but... ^_^;;
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Ethan Hammond
> have any favorite non-anime/manga artist. I came to the state when I
> was 20 (so that's 7 years ago) and believed that manga/anime is
> superior than US comic/cartoon.
Don Figuero Transformers
Andrew Wildman Transformers
Jim Lee back in the day when he did Uncanny X-Men
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Arnold Kim
> After posting that EE cup post, I happen to wonder if any of you guys
> have any favorite non-anime/manga artist. I came to the state when I
> was 20 (so that's 7 years ago) and believed that manga/anime is
> superior than US comic/cartoon.
Probably Alex Ross. He's the Norman Rockwell of comics.
Arnold Kim
Antonio E. Gonzalez
>Date: 11/26/2003 2:46 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <1b514f14.03112...@posting.google.com>
>
>After posting that EE cup post, I happen to wonder if any of you guys
>have any favorite non-anime/manga artist. I came to the state when I
>was 20 (so that's 7 years ago) and believed that manga/anime is
>superior than US comic/cartoon.
>
Let's see:
- Bruce Timm
- Lynn Johnston
- Garry B. Trudeau
- Jim Borgman
- Gary Larson
- Wiley Miller
- Bill Amend
- David Willis
- "Quino"
- Vaughner
- "Well, thanks to the internet, I'm bored with sex."
- Philip J. Fry, "Futurama"
Antonio E. Gonzalez
>>From: jaepet...@hotmail.com (Jae Choi)
>>Date: 11/26/2003 2:46 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: <1b514f14.03112...@posting.google.com>
>>
>>After posting that EE cup post, I happen to wonder if any of you guys
>>have any favorite non-anime/manga artist. I came to the state when I
>>was 20 (so that's 7 years ago) and believed that manga/anime is
>>superior than US comic/cartoon.
>>
>
Guess I should elaborate. : )
> Let's see:
>
>- Bruce Timm
Batman: TAS, Superman Adventures, Batman Beyond, and now Justice League have
set new animation standards for the US. The "Superfriends" have been left in
the dust!
>- Lynn Johnston
IIRC, she was the first to do the "aging thing" in comics. Readers grew up
with the characters, part of an excellent depiction of a North American family.
(could you ever tell it's set in Canada?)
>- Garry B. Trudeau
Whatever your politics, he's done a great depiction of changes in American
society and culture since 1970, all in comic strip form. I dare call him the
Mark Twain of our time.
>- Jim Borgman
I may not agree with his politics, but he's an incredible artist, in both his
editorial cartoon, and in Zits.
>- Gary Larson
"The Far Side." 'Nuff said . . . (It, Bloom County, and Calvin and Hobbes
formed the Holy Triumvirate of 80s comics)
>- Wiley Miller
Carries The Far Side's single panel legacy, with a great deal of bite.
Great, and definately unique drawing style . . .
>- Bill Amend
I love the art style of Fox Trot; and how can I *not* like the ultimate geek
comic?! (at least printed on newspapers; Dilbert just doesn't go that far)
>- David Willis
IMHO, It's Walky is the best comic on the web . . .
>- "Quino"
Many (North) Americans have probably never heard of Mafalda, but it may be
second only to Peanuts as the most popular comic in the world. Run 1964-1974,
this Argentinian gem gave many Latin Americans the ultimate view of their
situation . . .
5parrow
> "Jae Choi" <jaepet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>> So, how about you?
>
>
> Well, I am pretty old-school, so I would probably not know much about the
> artists after, say, 1990, in the US, at least. I have been a fan of Alphonse
> Maria Mucha (popularizer of the Art Noveau movement of the late 1880s
> to about 1920; a blend of the European art aesthetics with the more fluid
> Japanese
> art that had made a tour in Europe about 1885) for many years.
You too? Mucha rocks. (Have you seen Kousuke Fujishima's
directly-referential-to-his-style Ah! My Goddess posters?)
I liked some of the Image artists back when they were still half-decent.
Adam Hughes _is_ good when he's not trying to do manga knockoffs (yes,
IIRC he did do a few of those). He really does understand the human
muscle structure well enough to draw characters who look realistic (i.e.
not waif-thin) even despite unrealistically-sized chests (which is what
I assume OP is striving for).
Let me also put my vote in for the inestimable Piro :)
- 5parrow
Captain Nerd
jaepet...@hotmail.com (Jae Choi) wrote:
>
> So, how about you?
Phil Foglio.
I enjoyed Asprin's "Myth" series, but it was Foglio's comic
book adaptation that really put it over the top for me, in
terms of 'lose my breath laughing" humor. And his own "Buck
Godot" series is funny as hell, too.
Cap.
(...Zownt! Growlf!...)
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Relic
"5parrow" <mail....@gtg692n.edu> wrote in message
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> You too? Mucha rocks. (Have you seen Kousuke Fujishima's
> directly-referential-to-his-style Ah! My Goddess posters?)
Yes I have, and enjoy them very much (love it when I see a style that was
influenced by a Japanese artist in turn influences one (like Frank Miller,
who was heavily influenced by Goseki Kojima during his Daredevil and Ronin
days, influencing Yukito Kishiro (Gunnm/Battle Angel Alita).
Rob Kelk
<chibiw...@YUM-SPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Cal Shenkel, did a bunch of Frank Zappa album covers
>Salvidor Dali (whch I probably mispelled), he's the melting clock guy.
You were only off by one letter - replace the first "i" with an "a".
My favourite artists? Well... When it comes to classic art, they
weren't called "The Masters" for no reason. More modern work that I
like includes the work of Emily Carr, Tom Thompson, and any of the
"Group of Seven".
Moving from "fine art" to cartooning, I like the work done by Stan Sakai
("Usagi Yojimbo"), Bill Holbrook ("On the Fast Track", "Kevin and Kell",
etc.), Lynn Johnston ("For Better or For Worse"), Larry Feign ("The
World of Lily Wong", etc.), Gary Trudeau ("Doonesbury"), Berke Breathed
("Bloom County", etc.), Aaron Williams ("Nodwick", etc.), and "Illiad"
("User Friendly"), in no particular order.
(And that Brian Dinnigan fella does good fanart, but we're sort of
moving back into the anime/manga field there... ^_^)
--
Rob Kelk <http://robkelk.ottawa-anime.org/> robkelk -at- jksrv -dot- com
"I'm *not* a kid! Nyyyeaaah!" - Skuld (in "Oh My Goddess!" OAV #3)
"When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear of
childishness and the desire to be very grown-up." - C.S. Lewis, 1947
Disruptor
Rob Kelk wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:21:33 GMT, Chibi-Light
> <chibiw...@YUM-SPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Cal Shenkel, did a bunch of Frank Zappa album covers
> >Salvidor Dali (whch I probably mispelled), he's the melting clock guy.
>
> You were only off by one letter - replace the first "i" with an "a".
>
> My favourite artists? Well... When it comes to classic art, they
> weren't called "The Masters" for no reason. More modern work that I
> like includes the work of Emily Carr, Tom Thompson, and any of the
> "Group of Seven".
>
> Moving from "fine art" to cartooning, I like the work done by Stan Sakai
> ("Usagi Yojimbo"), Bill Holbrook ("On the Fast Track", "Kevin and Kell",
> etc.), Lynn Johnston ("For Better or For Worse"), Larry Feign ("The
> World of Lily Wong", etc.), Gary Trudeau ("Doonesbury"), Berke Breathed
> ("Bloom County", etc.), Aaron Williams ("Nodwick", etc.), and "Illiad"
> ("User Friendly"), in no particular order.
>
> (And that Brian Dinnigan fella does good fanart, but we're sort of
> moving back into the anime/manga field there... ^_^)
Taking a look at the current Previews, Jim Starlin
Writer and artist of the comic Dreadstar
Jack Bohn
> Guess I should elaborate. : )
Well, yes. It would also help to include the title of works, so
we don't have to do web searches while reading.
>>- Lynn Johnston
"For Better or Worse"
> IIRC, she was the first to do the "aging thing" in comics. Readers grew up
>with the characters, part of an excellent depiction of a North American family.
>(could you ever tell it's set in Canada?)
First in the aging thing? Had you not heard of "Gasoline Alley"?
Preceeded by a short-lived strip in 1905 called "Hungry
Henrietta" by Windsor McCay, the girl grew years in a few weeks.
Still, one of the few, With "Baby Blues" by Rick Kirkman & Jerry
Scott and "Jump Start" by Robb Armstrong. ("Funky Winkerbean"
and "Doonesbury" returned to find their characters older.)
>>- Garry B. Trudeau
"Doonesbury" (don't know if it needs saying)
> Whatever your politics, he's done a great depiction of changes in American
>society and culture since 1970, all in comic strip form. I dare call him the
>Mark Twain of our time.
>
>>- Wiley Miller
"Non-Sequitur"
> Carries The Far Side's single panel legacy, with a great deal of bite.
>Great, and definately unique drawing style . . .
I think it's fun to watch this guy just aching to put continuity
into what seems to be a gag-a-day strip. It's been a while since
it has lived up to its logo of a penguin hovering
hummingbird-like to sip nectar from a flower...
"Speed Bump" by Dave Coverly doesn't have the bite, but a great
deal of silliness in a simple drawing style.
Still, this isn't a list of favorite strips, but artists this guy
can learn from. Is there anything to learn from Bill "Foxtrot"
Amend, besides how to get away with using the same face on all
his characters? Although... that probably is a good lesson for a
cartoonist; how to do more with less, like how Trudeau uses the
same drawing of the White House for four panels yet still letting
the reader know who's doing the dialog.
--
-Jack
Ethan Hammond
County and the less mighty but still allright Outland.
Antonio E. Gonzalez
>Date: 11/28/2003 1:57 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <TwPxb.124508$Ec1.5...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
>
>And of course Berke Bearthed. Of the mighty Bloom
>County and the less mighty but still allright Outland.
>
You haven't heard of "Opus"?
Ethan Hammond
>
> >And of course Berke Bearthed. Of the mighty Bloom
> >County and the less mighty but still allright Outland.
> >
>
> You haven't heard of "Opus"?
It just started on 11/23.
Chris Sobieniak
(Ethan Hammond) wrote:
>And of course Berke Bearthed. Of the mighty
>Bloom County and the less mighty but still allright
>Outland.
Right On!
BTW, Did you know there's a new Breathed strip now in publication? It's
true! It's entitled "Opus", and it's first sunday strip has been seen
this week. I have read for those that have been able to find this strip
in their papers that it's not nearly anywhere like Bloom County in
quality, more in the Outland direction again. I sure hope we'll get to
see something positive out of it this one.
You might find out more from Berke's own website...
http://www.berkeleybreathed.com/
From the Master of Car-too-nal Knowledge...
Christopher M. Sobieniak
--"Fightin' the Frizzies since 1978"--
Chris Sobieniak
(Ethan Hammond) wrpte"
>"Antonio E. Gonzalez" <ante...@aol.complex>
>wrote in message
>>>And of course Berke Bearthed. Of the mighty
>>>Bloom County and the less mighty but still
>>>allright Outland.
>> You haven't heard of "Opus"?
>It just started on 11/23.
D'oh, you do know! I just forgot when it was coming, and I didn't know
if it was in any newspaper in my vicinity. I might have to check the
Detroit papers to make sure I'm not deprived of Breathed's commentary of
social life. Back in the '80s, I could only get the weekly portion of
"Bloom County" in my local paper, and never had "Outland" unless I
didn't have the nerve to keep buying out-of-town papers just to read
them (which I hardly did).
Ethan Hammond
>
>D'oh, you do know! I just forgot when it was coming, and I didn't know
>if it was in any newspaper in my vicinity. I might have to check the
>Detroit papers to make sure I'm not deprived of Breathed's commentary of
>social life. Back in the '80s, I could only get the weekly portion of
>"Bloom County" in my local paper, and never had "Outland" unless I
>didn't have the nerve to keep buying out-of-town papers just to read
>them (which I hardly did).
I wish I could find the darn thing online somewhere.
Opus withdraw has been great, GREAT!!!!
Damien Roc
> "Jae Choi" <jaepet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
>>After posting that EE cup post, I happen to wonder if any of you guys
>>have any favorite non-anime/manga artist. I came to the state when I
>>was 20 (so that's 7 years ago) and believed that manga/anime is
>>superior than US comic/cartoon.
>
>
> Don Figuero Transformers
> Andrew Wildman Transformers
Eh. Wildman is excellent, but other than him, the Dreamwave artists are
all pretty passable. Okay, but not stunning. I wish they'd get Geoff
Senior to do more.
Of course, I'm not entirely happy with Wildman's new stuff. Maybe it's
the lack of Stephen Baskerville's inks, but they really aren't as
exciting and evocative as his art way back when.
> Jim Lee back in the day when he did Uncanny X-Men
Mmm... in all honesty, I think his recent stuff is just as good as it
was back then. He may be one of the most consistent artists for quality.
> All Purpose Cultural Randomness
Damien Roc
The NightRaven
Yes, many, most of them European.
Hèrge, the writer/artist of the TinTin saga,
realy great mystery/adventure/sci-fi stories
with character development and wonderfully
detailed illustrations.
Was active from the 1930's til the day he died.
Franquin, the definitive Spirou writer/artist,
not the first one, but the one who defined the
style of the characters as they are today.
only surpassed by two of his sucseeders in
the Spirou serires:
Tomè&Janry, a writer/artist duo.
Very cinematic and dynamic drawing style,
capable of both funny and dramatic stories.
Goscinny, writer & Uderzo, artist, of the
Asterix series. Comic fiction in a semi-historic setting,
wonderful.
The same Goscinny is also the writer of
Lucky Luke, drawn by Morris.
Funny and exciting Western stories.
Of course I have to mention a couple
of Americans, namely
Carl Barks & Keeno Don Rosa.
Two of the best Duck writers/artist ever!
Barks practically made the Duck-universe
as it is known today, created famous
characters such as Scrooge McDuck,
and created so exicting stories that it
was one of the inspirations for the
Indiana Jones movies.
Don Rosa is his modern day equivalent,
creating wonderful stories, and has a
distinctive drawing style, very cinematic,
almost like a story-board sometimes,
and props his pictures full of details.
(And will probably read this post
someday, thanks to the magic of Google)
And I should also mention my favourite
"funnies", newspaper comic strips:
Local talents from Norway;
Frode Øverli, writer/artist of Pondus
http://my.opera.com/pondus
Lise, writer/artist of Nemi
(no link, sorry)
Eon, by Lars Lauvik
http://www.lauvik.biz
American strips:
Monty (formely RobotMan), by Jim Meddick
http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/monty/index.html
Bizarro, by Dan Piraro
http://www.kingfeatures.com/features/comics/bizarro/about.htm
Boondocks, by Aaron McGruder
http://www.ucomics.com/boondocks/
Calvin & Hobbes, by Bill Watterson
http://www.ucomics.com/calvinandhobbes/
Dilbert, by Scott Adams
http://www.dilbert.com/
Doonesbury, by G. Trudeau
http://www.doonesbury.com/
Garfield, by Jim Davies
http://www.garfield.com/ (It was better before)
Get Fuzzy, by Darby Conley
http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/getfuzzy/index.html
Liberty Meadows, by Frank Cho
http://www.unitedmedia.com/creators/liberty/index.html
Madam & Eve, by S. Francis & Rico (OK, South-African, not American)
http://www.madamandeve.co.za/
Peanuts, by Charles Schultz
http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/peanuts/
Pearls before by Swine, by Stephan Pastis
http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/pearls/
Piranha Club (formely Ernie), by Bud Grace
http://www.kingfeatures.com/features/comics/piranha/about.htm
Pooch Cafe, by Paul Gilligan
http://www.ucomics.com/poochcafe/
Red Meat, by Max Cannon
http://www.redmeat.com/
Shermans Lagoon, by Jim Toomey
http://www.slagoon.com/
Sinfest, by Tatsuya Ishida
http://sinfest.net/
Outland & Opus, by Berkely Breathed
I've probably forgotten some, but these are my
favourites at least.
And when it comes to animations....hmm...this post
is long enough as it is already, but OK:
Whoever was responsible for the following
cartoons:
Ulysses 31,
Cities of Gold
Spartakus & the World beneath the sea/Shagma,
+ almost anything from the 1920's.
- NightRaven
Don Rosa
> creating wonderful stories, and has a
> distinctive drawing style, very cinematic,
> almost like a story-board sometimes,
> and props his pictures full of details.
> (And will probably read this post
> someday, thanks to the magic of Google)
Nope -- I never saw it.
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
>
> And when it comes to animations....hmm...this post
> is long enough as it is already, but OK:
> Whoever was responsible for the following
> cartoons:
> Ulysses 31,
> Cities of Gold
>
Those are definitely not non-anime. ;-)
Laters. =)
Stan
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Michael Borgwardt
>>And when it comes to animations....hmm...this post
>>is long enough as it is already, but OK:
>>Whoever was responsible for the following
>>cartoons:
>>Ulysses 31,
>>Cities of Gold
>>
>
> Those are definitely not non-anime. ;-)
Actually, they're French/Japanese coproductions, so I guess they count
as "half-anime"...
Damien Roc
Considering the French also say "anime" would they be half anime and
half anime? (Well, the French one has an accent mark over the "e")
Damien Roc
The NightRaven
"Michael Borgwardt" <bra...@brazils-animeland.de> wrote in message
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Really? I didn't know. Do you know which part are French and which
part is Japanese?
(I know the actors were French at least)
And in that case, "Spartakus & the World beneath the sea/Shagma" shouldn't
have been snipped, as it's from the same team responsible for
Ulysses 31 & Cities of Gold.
- NightRaven
Michael Borgwardt
>>>>Whoever was responsible for the following
>>>>cartoons:
>>>>Ulysses 31,
>>>>Cities of Gold
>>>>
>>>
>>>Those are definitely not non-anime. ;-)
>>
>>Actually, they're French/Japanese coproductions, so I guess they count
>>as "half-anime"...
>
>
> Really? I didn't know. Do you know which part are French and which
> part is Japanese?
> (I know the actors were French at least)
In the French version at least.
http://www2.lescitesdor.com/ (click on "Le staff")
ttp://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/CrewGuide/showid-17180/
In both cases, the scrips were written by the French side, while
the visual part was done mostly by the Japanese, with direction
and management being shared by both.
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
That's why I worded it that way. ;-)
Frank White
don...@iglou.com says...
(blink, blink)
If you are indeed the artist Don Rosa...
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for the Gladstone
Donald Duck and Scrooge McDuck stories!!
They were... wonderful...
FW
Don Rosa
>
> THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for the Gladstone
> Donald Duck and Scrooge McDuck stories!!
My pleasure... and you can't imagine how sincerely I mean that!
(P.S.: I didn't do many of those stories for noble Gladstone. I worked
for Gladstone in 1987-89... but thereafter I have always worked for
Egmont in Denmark.)
Rose Prescott
(Don Rosa) writes:
My Stars And Garters! I salute you, sir, as a worthy companion for Carl Barks
and Floyd Gottfredson!
Rose
Princess, having had sufficient experience with princes, seeks frog.
Antonio E. Gonzalez
>Date: 12/5/2003 3:45 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <20031205064548...@mb-m19.aol.com>
>
>In article <8f032555.03120...@posting.google.com>,
>don...@iglou.com
>(Don Rosa) writes:
>
>>fwhite*NOSPAM*@colfax.com (Frank White) wrote in message
>>> If you are indeed the artist Don Rosa...
>>>
>>> THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for the Gladstone
>>> Donald Duck and Scrooge McDuck stories!!
>>
>>
>>My pleasure... and you can't imagine how sincerely I mean that!
>>
>>(P.S.: I didn't do many of those stories for noble Gladstone. I worked
>>for Gladstone in 1987-89... but thereafter I have always worked for
>>Egmont in Denmark.)
>
>My Stars And Garters! I salute you, sir, as a worthy companion for Carl Barks
>and Floyd Gottfredson!
>
>
Closest thing I can compare to this would be Paul Dini replying to a post I
made on alt.tv.cartoon-network . . . (go ahead, Google it! "Green Loontern")
The NightRaven
"Antonio E. Gonzalez" <ante...@aol.complex> wrote in message
If you think this is interesting, you should check out the group
fa.disney-comics,
if your news-server carries it. He (Rosa), is a regular poster there.
It's not really a newsgroup though, you have to subscribe to a mailinglist
in
order to post there, but it's still an intersting group to lurk in.
- NightRaven
Chika
Fave non-anime artists? Well, that's a hard one for me, as I'll see bits
and pieces that I like but I won't necessarily like everything that a
particular artist has done.
However, I can admit that a few artists have impressed me. One that
immediately springs to mind is Nina Paley (as you might have guessed, I'm
a fan of the more ironic comic style). In fact, I used to like a lot of
the more underground stuff such as Gilbert Sheldon, Bob Crumb etc., though
I get less of this these days.
I did rather enjoy that collection of Winsor McCay's Little Nemo comics
that came out a few years ago, so I guess I'm not totally lost to
cynicism! :)
--
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Chris Sobieniak
(Michael Borgwardt) wrote:>http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/CrewGuide/>showid-17180/
>French side, while the visual part was done mostly
>by the Japanese, with direction and management
>being shared by both.
In this case, DIC under Jean Chalopin's command pretty much just created
and wrote both programs and had Japanese studios like TMS and Studio
Pierrot animated them. TMS with people like Toyoo Ashida animated
"Ulysses 31" in around '81 and Pierrot worked on "Mysterious Cities of
Gold" in '83.
Chris Sobieniak
(Don Rosa) wrote:
>fwhite*NOSPAM*@colfax.com (Frank White) wrote
>in message
>>If you are indeed the artist Don Rosa...
>>THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for the
>>Gladstone Donald Duck and Scrooge McDuck
>>stories!!
>My pleasure... and you can't imagine how sincerely
>I mean that!
Glad to see someone of such talent in this group. I used to read those
books as well back when comics were less than a dollar at the corner
drug store (a stable of the Americana which sadly doesn't exist anymore,
hell I have to go to a comic shop to find any of them these days).
Still have a number of issues in my collection, though I hardly ever did
find any of those Gladstone trade paperbacks and other items I would've
bought via mail order (too young to afford that kind of wad back then).
>(P.S.: I didn't do many of those stories for noble
>Gladstone. I worked for Gladstone in 1987-89...
>but thereafter I have always worked for Egmont in
>Denmark.)
Another European artist that worked on the Gladstone Disney comics I
admired is Daan Jippes. He did some good work emulating the Barks style
in his shorter stories as well as the cover art on many issues. I was
surprised once when I spotted his involvement in the storyboarding of
the Universal/Amblin feature "Balto".
Don Rosa
> admired is Daan Jippes.
> He did some good work emulating the Barks style
> in his shorter stories
I would have to assume, due to your use of the word "another", that
you think *I* am a European artist. I am a Kentuckian.
Furthermore, if it matters, Jippes never did any stories for
Gladstone. Those were Dutch stories. All of the stories used by
Gladstone were reprints from Europe -- the only exceptions were the
few that I and William Van Horn did in 1988-89. The same applies to
the new Gemstone Disney comics. All of those stories are reprints from
Europe.
Chris Sobieniak
wrote:
>chrism...@webtv.net (Chris Sobieniak) wrote in
>message
>>Another European artist that worked on the
>>Gladstone Disney comics I admired is Daan
>>Jippes.
>>He did some good work emulating the Barks style
>>in his shorter stories
>I would have to assume, due to your use of the
>word "another", that you think *I* am a European
>artist. I am a Kentuckian. Furthermore, if it
>matters, Jippes never did any stories for
>Gladstone. Those were Dutch stories.
D'oh! Sorry for being an idiot here! It's been a long time and I've
only recovered many of these comics after years stored in a dusty
cardboard box underneath my bed (which I'm not placing in more decent
place).
>All of the stories used by Gladstone were reprints
>from Europe -- the only exceptions were the few
>hat I and William Van Horn did in 1988-89. The
>same applies to the new Gemstone Disney
>comics. All of those stories are reprints from
>Europe.
Hmm, must seem quite nice that these stores managed to get exposure in
North America like that (sounds like a rarity in the case of an American
property that's been licensed to a foreign company for their own
publications to see the light of day back on home soil). I should try
to get the Gemstone copies, but $7.95 sounds a little out of my price
range for some of those issues (that's aleady itching towards graphic
novel territory at that price range).