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0015...@ysub.ysu.edu

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Nov 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/8/95
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Is there any difference between these two popular brands of fish food. I was
in the store yesterday and I noticed that Tetra was much more expensive than
Wardley. For a can of shrimp pellets that was about 2 ounces, the tetra cost
about $4. For a 4 oz. can of shrimp pellets from Wardley, it was only half as
much, about $2. Is Tetra that much better, that it warrants 4 times the price?
That seems like quite a difference in price for two products which should be
almost identical.

Philip Deitiker

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Nov 9, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/9/95
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Tetra higher end products are probably better than Wardley's. Wardley
adds some stuff to their foods that probably should be there (like
alfalfa). The really best of widely available foods is the Hikari Line,
which has specialty lines for particular stains and species.
As for the dehydrated foods, many of the dried shrimp and krill
products are prepared as human food products in the oreint some are
repackaged some are relabled, you can find some of the same products at
your local japanese, korean or chinese food mart and the later may save
you alot of money. As for the prepared products of flakes and pellets one
has to be a little careful. If the foods were not treated carefully they
may have become stale before the final packaging step and the fish may
reject these products. By far, the freshest of the prepared dried foods
that I know of is Hikari (using the smell test), and my fish (Discus)
like the hikari preparations much better than the closest tetra food. I
have many experience of opening the Tetra line (brine shrimp and other
flake type foods) and finding it infested with weavles, which leads me to
question 1.) how tightly sealed their product is 2.) and how fresh the
contained food is. Since my fish refuse the Wardley products I've tested
I can't say how it compares in this regard.

Philip



Rob Weidel

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Nov 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/10/95
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Um, I really don't feel qualified to make an educated statement about
which of these foods is actually BETTER because each variety of food has
different ingredients. I can say that I've had equal success with both
brands. I've worked part time in the fish biz for quite a while, and
Wardley has the better reputation. The only thing I know for sure is
that Tetra's spirulina SUCKS; it has more fish meal and fillers than
actual spirulina. Wardley's #1 ingredient in it's Spirulina products is,
of course, Spirulina.

Hope I was of some help,
Rob
PS-Being frugal never hurts...


Gints

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Nov 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/10/95
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My experience has been the same. My fish seem to prefer nothing over
Tetra Spirulina. No problems with Tetra Ruby color food.

Bo Williams

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Nov 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/10/95
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While we're talking about flake food, has anybody noticed how much stronger
OSI foods _smell_ than any other brand? I use Aquarian flake as a staple for
my freshwater tanks, but I have a little OSI Marine and OSI Spirulina for the
occasional times when my marine tank gets dry food, and they're very
strong-smelling. Not unpleasant-smelling, just strong. I'm sure I'm not
buying old stuff, as I've gotten it right out of the delivery carton at the
aquarium shop before. Anybody else notice?
--
Bo Williams
wrwi...@ingr.com

Rob Weidel

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Nov 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/13/95
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Philip Deitiker <Pde...@bcm.tmc.edu> wrote:
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>Tetra higher end products are probably better than Wardley's. Wardley
>adds some stuff to their foods that probably should be there (like
>alfalfa). The really best of widely available foods is the Hikari Line,
>which has specialty lines for particular stains and species....

>Philip
>
>
>
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Well, Phil, I'm not so sure I'd agree with the above statement. First
of all, much of what Hikari offers isn't widely available. Usually, you
can only find various cichlid pellets, goldfish pellets, and the sinking
algae wafers. On occasion, you'll run into the micro-pellets and the
carnivore sinking pellets. Where are the flakes? Those micro pellets
are decent, but i prefer flakes for most f.w. tropicals. Also, i think
it's safe to say that both tetra and wardley have 'specialty lines' for
particular strains of fish....

IMHO, Aquarian makes the best flake on the market. Turn to Hikari for
pellets; their shit IS good. (good, not perfect) But Aquarian's flakes
reign supreme due to the high quality ingredients and safer
preservatives.

unfortunately, it's not real easy to find aquarian for sale any more.
It's a british company, and supposedly there's a problem with the U.S.
company that imports their products. If you can find the stuff, you
might want to pick it up.

Oh, yeah, philip! I know what you mean about discus refusing wardley
products. I know that my Tanganyikan cichlids don't like the wardley
cichlid flakes. It seems like some wardley products are just not
palatable to some fish...

everybody's good friend,
rob


Hula Pop

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Nov 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/13/95
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Tetra has raised all of their prices, realizing that they have a vast
majority of the market share, also thay are selling to the major chains
like wal-mart so that small helpful pet stores can't compete. buy
wardley, its made in the good ol USA

Rob Weidel

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Nov 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/13/95
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Bo,
Yep, OSI is a tad bit stinky as compared to some other brands. Don't
worry, it's fresh. I've always been a big fan of OSI; it's mild stench
doesn't deter fish from eating it, nor does it indicate a lousy food.

Your pal,
rob


Cheeta

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Nov 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/14/95
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hul...@aol.com (Hula Pop) wrote:

:>|Tetra has raised all of their prices, realizing that they have a vast


:>|majority of the market share, also thay are selling to the major chains
:>|like wal-mart so that small helpful pet stores can't compete. buy
:>|wardley, its made in the good ol USA

Wardley?? Wardley Sucks!! Try OSI it's just as good as Tetra, much
better than anything Wardley makes, and it's also made in the USA.


Ted Northrop

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Nov 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/16/95
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Bo Williams (wrwi...@ingr.com) wrote:
: While we're talking about flake food, has anybody noticed how much stronger
: OSI foods _smell_ than any other brand? I use Aquarian flake as a staple for

Yo Bo,
Bo knows fish food :) yeah there is always one smart ass out there!
I too have notice this with OSI food. I like the OSI food the best and my fish
seem to like it the most, over tetra, wardly and most freeze dried foods. If I
recall correctly out of most of the products I see in mail order OSI seems to
have foods that have the best ranges on proteins and fiber etc. For e.g. the
foods they prepare for vegetarians has very low protein and high fiber contents.
Foods prepared for carnivores have higher proteins than other lines of food.
I have read that Aquarian foods do not have a preservitive that other foods
have that is harmful to fish in the long run. I have thought about switching to
the Aquarian line as there stuff is the cheapest in MO I have seen. How have
users of this product found it to be?? and what kind of fish are you feeding??
Ted


Bob Hoffman

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Nov 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/17/95
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Hula Pop,

What's the basis for your statement that Wardley sucks?

Bob

PATRICK WILLIAM PHELAN

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Nov 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/21/95
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Bob Hoffman (bhof...@deltanet.com) wrote:

: Bob
>> The one flake food I've found that all of my fish eat (and eat very
>> readily) is Sera, which is German I think... It's more expensive than
>> other flake, but definitely top quality.

KDWagner

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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Depending on the fish,

so too will your results.

Goldfish and ornamental tropicals will take anything.

The Wardley Cichlid pellet is awful.
Most cichlids won't touch them (I have frontosa)

The Wardley Shrimp pellet is ok for plecos
Cichlids prefer Japanese HIKARI over anything else.
Aquarian flakes are good, Tetra stuff is all just OK
I almost worked at Wardley. The only fish they had
were angels, with very few exceptions. So if you don't
have angels, Wardley foods may not be for you .

Any Questions.. feel free to ask

Arbeitsgruppe Neumann

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Nov 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/29/95
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In article <1995Nov21....@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA>, pp9...@badger.ac.brocku.ca (PATRICK WILLIAM PHELAN) says:
>
Hello! I just felt as though I ought to jump into this conversation. I惴
an American living in Germany, and I扉e been a fish hobbyist for many
years and worked in pet stores in both countries. First of all, Sera is
German, and very good, for a flake food. I am convinced, however, that
the best food isn愒 even flake, but a granule food made by the German
company Dupla. FRED

Chang-Ping Lee

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Nov 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/29/95
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In article <49hnro$p...@news.rrz.uni-koeln.de>,


Sorry, no matter how good Dupla granule food may be and no
matter how I starved my fish, they just don't eat it. God
knows how hard I tried.

My fish eat like pigs if I give them Tetra, OSI or Wardly's
Total Ten.

Chang

Cheung Tam

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Nov 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/29/95
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KDWagner (kdwa...@aol.com) wrote:
(snip)
:
: The Wardley Cichlid pellet is awful.
: Most cichlids won't touch them (I have frontosa)
:
(snip)

I have pacu and they ADORE the Wardley cichlid pellets. My Rainbow
aruana as well. All grow fat and happy.

kj

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Nov 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/30/95
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In article <49igbh$4...@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, c...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chang-Ping Lee) says:


I accidently dumped my can (bottle, jar?) of OSI on the carpet (first
time I ever bought it...) and it STUNK to high heaven. --still can't
get rid of the smell a week later. This is a REALLY good reason not to
buy it again. But, the fish are eating it okay, and the dog chowed on the
pile on the carpet.

Kelly

Aquatik

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Dec 2, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/2/95
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In article <49j6qf$r...@news.snowcrest.net>, kel...@snowcrest.net (kj)
writes:

>I accidently dumped my can (bottle, jar?) of OSI on the carpet (first
>time I ever bought it...) and it STUNK to high heaven. --still can't
>get rid of the smell a week later. This is a REALLY good reason not to
>buy it again. But, the fish are eating it okay, and the dog chowed on the
>pile on the carpet.
>
>Kelly

I take it the aroma was stronger than the same test, if used; for OSI's
competitors? Which OSI product was it (staple, spirulina, brine shrimp)?

Greg Steinbach

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Dec 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/19/95
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In article <49h0sd$n...@mark.ucdavis.edu>, ez04...@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu
says...

A little off subject, but I was comparing Sprirulina flakes recently and
noticed that the Wardley brand seems to be quite a bit superior to the
Tetra product. At least in the ingredients the Tetra product had fish
meal as the first ingredient while Wardley listed Spirulina as the first
ingredient. Also Wardley appeared to be better vitamin fortified. I was
surprised to notice that several other brands also listed fish meal rather
than Spirulina as the first ingredient ... hmmm doesn't sound like it
differs much from their standard flake ingredients, at least not enough
to call it Spirulina flakes IMHO.


Melody in Long Beach

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Dec 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/26/95
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Hmmmm... I bought a small can of Wardley Spirulina Flakes just a couple
of days ago. It has a nice picture of a big healthy Sailfin Molly
(natural colors). My mollies have been chewing up the flakes and
spitting them out.

Maybe they're spoiled on my live foods or something. But I was a bit
disappointed.

ladym


Scott Bramhall

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Dec 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/26/95
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I have been feeding my community Wardley Spirulina Flakes for several
months now, twice a week as part of a varied diet. My community is
made up of some livebearers, tetras, a betta, a gaggle of cories and
a rainbow shark. The livebearers always seemed to enjoy the Spirulina,
but the rest of the fish just ignored them; after a month or so, though,
all the fish gobble them up just like any other food. The only bad thing
I can say is that I hate the Wardley cans; the tops are a pain in the butt
to put back on!

I'd say give your mollies a while to get used to the flakes; one thing you
can try is soaking the flakes for a bit before you give them to the fish.
Wardley flakes are notoriously dry and some fish don't seem to be able to
swallow them until they're moistened thoroughly.

Good Luck!
Scott B.

Ellie Trevarthen

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Dec 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/29/95
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Scott Bramhall wrote:
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> > [snip] My mollies have been chewing up the flakes and
> > spitting them out.

> > ladym


> Wardley flakes are notoriously dry and some fish don't seem to be able to
> swallow them until they're moistened thoroughly.

> Scott B.

I noticed that my fish were also nipping at the Wardley flakes, then biting
off bits and spitting them out. Several seconds later they would go back
after them and gobble them. Your explanation that the flakes need to absorb
some moisture in order for the fish to swallow them seems right. Thanks
for explaining this. I'm very new to tropical fish keeping and little bits
of information like this really help to relieve the stress of wondering whether
I'm doing the right thing!

Ellie

Rissa Richardson

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Jan 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/4/96
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I use both Wardleys Spirulina flaks and discs and have had eager
acceptance by the Angels, Tetra, Plecos and other cats. THey are all
doing quite well thank you.

Shalo...@msn.com

James D. Ramsey

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Jan 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/6/96
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It could be the type of flake you are feeding them, but likely not.
Obviously your fidh think of themselves as very classy and think they
can do better than every day flake.
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