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oscar waggoner

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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my daughter was helping me set up a new 55 gal. tank. She accidentally
added way too much stresscoat. My question is can this be harmful, and
if so how may i combat it without changing too much water??? My fish
are currently alive and well in their old tank, but they are really
eyeballing that new 55 gal. job. thanks. oscar waggoner


FreemanG12

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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I wouldn't worry unless she put in a LOT more than necessary. And even then,
I'd just do a partial water change to dilute it.
I routinely put in a liberal dose, not bothering to measure it.
-- Greg, Atlanta

oscar waggoner

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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i think she put in at least triple , of what she
needed.......also,....shall i introduce water from my old fish tank
(since those are the fish that will be inhabiting my new tank????)


IguanaSara

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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>shall i introduce water from my old fish tank
>(since those are the fish that will be inhabiting my new tank????)

Great idea! As a matter of fact, take the majority of the water from your old
tank and put it into the new one. It really helps the cycling process and
helps the fish adjust more easily. Taking so much water from your other tank
shouldn't hurt (3 quarters ought to be good) since it is already cycled.

And with the stress coat... I re-fill my tank after I clean it by putting water
in plastic gallon milk containers, and I usually put a generous squirt in each
container. Haven't had a problem yet.


Sara

Paul M. Cook

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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oscar waggoner wrote:
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> i think she put in at least triple , of what she
> needed.......also,....shall i introduce water from my old fish tank

> (since those are the fish that will be inhabiting my new tank????)


You have cycled the tank already, haven't you?

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Paul M. Cook

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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I hate that product to begin with. I've seen way too many fish deaths
in tanks that it was used to not draw at least a circumstantial
connection. My personal theory is that the polymer matrix is too sticky
and can interfere with gill function. Just a theory and not scientific
fact mind you. First of all you really don't need it. Fishes slime
coats are tougher than marketers would have you believe. My favorite
product is Kordon's Novaqua. Not for the slime coat bit but because it
is a good tapwater treatment.

I'd suggest a 50% water change or more depending on the overdose. Why
take any chances when a WC is so easy?

Bigdogg

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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I agree with paul, I have no doubt that fish can produce their own healthy
slime coat in any reasonably well kept tank...if your water conditions are
shot to hell then no matter how much stress coat you add in it will do no
good...That is why I think that deaths are linked easily to stress
coat...people might think it's the only thing they need to maintain a
healthy aqaurium. As for Oscar...get NovAqua or AquaSafe, those 2 are the
best I have used. I also dont think that water helps any with the cycle as
it doesnt hold nearly as much bacteria as any other part of the tank...try
putting some of the carbon (if you have) from your old tank in the filter
for the new tank...if not, just put some of your old substrate ( especially
if you have a ugf in your old tank) in the new tank...you dont have to use
it on the bottom, just put it in a pantyhose or a filter bag....rinse the
pantyhose before you use it, as well as the filter bag. Good Luck

BigDogg

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Buffalo Bob

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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You're talking about a lot of stress coat to overdo a 55 gallon tank.
If memory serves me right they say to use 1-2 mL per gallon to treat a
tank for removing chlorine or treat damaged fish. There have been
times I actually exceeded that when I had fish get hung up in a net
and go into shock. I have been quite successful with it. Let's say she
dumped 4 ounces in, then you might do a partial to be safe. But I
would think your biggest worry would be cycling that 55 Gallon. Have
you thought about putting your old filter on the 55 gallon to get the
cycle going? That's what I do. I'll put the old filter on the new
tank, and put the new filter on the old tank. That works with the
bio-wheel, and I'll bet it works with Aqua Clear too. Just don't
forget to add a few fish to the 55 gal to feed the bacteria.

Have fun!

Bob

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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My LFS doesn't even carry Stress Coat. It's an excellent store with a staff
of very knowledgeable, caring people. They say that adding Stress Coat is
worse than doing nothing. I see that Aquarium Pharmaceutacals is touting the
fact that the stuff has Aloe Vera and encouraging people to ask the fish
store to add a pump of Stress Coat to the bag with new fish ("Get Pumped!").
Do my fish really need Aloe Vera? Do they really need Stress Coat? I'm
thinking Snake Oil maybe... any thoughts? Gaston

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Paul M. Cook

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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I agree. The whole aloe vera thing has me perplexed. I'd be amazed if
AP could prove it did anything for fish at all. One thing I have come
to believe is that fishes slime coats are far more resilient and quick
to regenerate than advertisers would hav eus believe. Plus I just
don't think it helps fish at all and in fact my opinion is it does them
more harm than good.

fi...@water.com

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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So NovAqua or Aquasafe? Or another?

The purpose of these aforementioned brands is soley to remove chlorine?

And one of the above would be ALL the "conditioning" most tap water
needed?


Paul M. Cook

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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Novaqua has a long and very good track record.

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